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What do you guys think of this awesome battle between a mutant legendary Saiyan vs two super Saiyan gods and the golden frieza?

Is this a mismatch and super completely washes or does Z broly obliterate Z god Goku and vegeta?

This matchup might be closer than people think and there is a possibility than the Z gods actually win

Broly feats/statements

He has destroyed the south galaxy at the opening of the movie and it dissolved on screen so even if it was over time or in one shot he still displaced the GBE of the south galaxy and even if it was over time it is stated that the south galaxy is a sector of the universe that contains innumerable galaxies so it is a multi galactic feat regardless of the time frame

He even has statements that he can destroy galaxies but he is lonely so he is intended to be a galaxy buster

It’s also and mftl speed feat to even traverse that many solar systems and galaxies and destroy them in a short amount of time for the king Kai to notice

Interesting thing is that this might have been done in his base form as we don’t know if he ever turned super Saiyan during that due to Paragus control device but it at also possible that this happened in the first place due to paragus not being able to control him while he nuked the galaxies he was a super Saiyan during the flashback scenes and he does have a suppressed super Saiyan state that has blue hair funnily enough similar to the god forms but it couldn’t have been his LSSJ state as that would make no narrative sense tbh but idk

Broly also has statements of being comparable in ki to Hatchiyak who during his pre birth state was warping the universe with his ki

Broly is also stated to be the strongest movie villain meaning he should be stronger than Janemba who can destroy a ssj3 Goku who warps the hell realm with his power up

Now for God Goku and vegeta in the Z movies they get scaling from Beerus and Frieza and also prior manga arcs

It’s important to note that DBZ battle of gods and res f are the direct canon sequels to the Toriyama original manga so they don’t get upscales from the anime

Now Frieza and the two gods that should be bare minimum planet level in Res F as frieza even while weakened and out of golden state could destroy the earth

They should upscale majin buu who in the manga could destroy hundreds of planets and super buu can open portals in between two spacetimes with his scream so he’s around planet level to possibly uni+ via being able to breach the fabric of two different spacetimes with his own power if you count that as it does happen in the manga

Goku has fought beerus in the movies

Beerus sneeze can destroy a planet
Goku in his super Saiyan god absorbed state was able to power back up into God and destroy the blast that beerus sent to wipe out earth

Goku in his SSG state pushed beerus to 70%

Blue js a 50 times multiplier although we don’t know if that increases the percentage

Beerus is also stronger than Buu

It’s stated Beerus can destroy the Kaioshin realm

There are even statements that when battle of gods came out that the director was suprised toriyama made a character stronger than broly so that might also tip the odds in their favor

Goku and vegeta are equal as they fought each other and it is stated in the movie that if they teamed up they could beat Beerus

But yeah based on feats how do you guys think the fight would pan out ?

I honestly think Z broly has a chance and probably wins

Before you go on about universe punches this or galaxy level that THIS IS SPECIFICALLY GOING OFF THE FEATS THE CHARACTERS SHOW IN THE ANIME OR MOVIE

To make this a more even fight or not?

No chain scaling off previous sagas,no statements only feats like what they themselves do on screen

This the movie version of Goku not the anime version so dont yap about the macrocosm feat lol

And Saitama only gets his season one feats

Now for the actual discussion this should be closer than ever because I tried to use ROF movie Goku and he was still to powerful for anime Saitama

Saitama has shown that he can destroy large meteors pieces of mountain damage giant ships and crater the moon and swat away an energy attack and split the sky apart

He can also jump from the moon to earth in seconds m

Pretty impressive stuff

Goku in the BOG movie can destroy clouds with his punches he can destroy huge chunks of mountain sized landscapes also surviving an energy blast that leveled a cave and he stops an energy blast that looks like the sun I believe that is all for him in this movie

He is able to fight and fly to the atmosphere in a very short amount of time

So with the feats shown who do you guys think wins?

Before you go on about universe punches this or galaxy level that THIS IS SPECIFICALLY GOING OFF THE FEATS THE CHARACTERS SHOW IN THE ANIME OR MOVIE

To make this a more even fight or not?

No chain scaling off previous sagas,no statements only feats like what they themselves do on screen

This the movie version of Goku not the anime version so dont yap about the macrocosm feat lol

And Saitama only gets his season one feats

Now for the actual discussion this should be closer than ever because I tried to use ROF movie Goku and he was still to powerful for anime Saitama

Saitama has shown that he can destroy large meteors pieces of mountain damage giant ships and crater the moon and swat away an energy attack and split the sky apart

He can also jump from the moon to earth in seconds m

Pretty impressive stuff

Goku in the BOG movie can destroy clouds with his punches he can destroy huge chunks of mountain sized landscapes also surviving an energy blast that leveled a cave and he stops an energy blast that looks like the sun I believe that is all for him in this movie

He is able to fight and fly to the atmosphere in a very short amount of time

So with the feats shown who do you guys think wins?

How would the negative dragon balls face up against the likes of a super Saiyan god with the power of a super Saiyan!!!

Or how would the legendary super Saiyan four do against a resurrected frieza or a God of destruction?

And I guess the power levels for their respective arcs like resurrection f Goku shadow dragon characters up till top etc

I would like to res f blue Goku vs syn shenron that would be cool

And omega shenron could possibly face blue Goku as well they fit each others vibes for a dragon based martial arts style world

And I would like to see ssj4 Goku baby arc vs res f golden frieza that would be insane

And what about the other arcs?

Before you type we are only going off the in movie feats only so no guidebooks or previous arcs ti scale the characters meaning no star level Boros or namek saga frieza feats only the feats shown on screen in their respective episode and movie

Who wins between the emperor of the universe vs the dominator of the universe?

In the Resurrection F movie Frieza is shown to be able to fight on par and react to Goku who can dodge his laser blast so thats at least light speed reaction time

Also in the Resurrection F movie Frieza can destroy earth with a slight palm press while defeated and out of stamina pretty much he does this extremely casually and he survives the explosion even after he was severely beaten by two Super Saiyan gods

His golden form should be much stronger than his final form and he also has a stamina issue in the gold form

So he’s at least light speed and easily planet level going off of feats shown.

Boros on the other hand has some decent feats himself he’s able to blitz and clobber the one punch man the same hero that can jump from the moon to earth and know where he is going so Boros definitely has light speed attacks in his second form he can also blast large chunks of his ship which can level cities

In his final form he can destroy the earth with all of his released energy and thats his maximum output

His meteor form has an intense drain on his life force sk he cannot be in it for long

Who wins? Does frieza even go into golden form or does he casually deal with Boros? If he does can Boros Im his meteor form outlast gold frieza or does frieza outlast Boros? Both have an intense stamina or life force drain in their respective final forms.

I like this match up and tried to make it fair because ROF is my second favorite anime movie and opm season 1 is one of my favorite anime pieces ever created both had decent animation and came out the same year 2015 and kind of stirred up OPM vs DBZ debates

Before you type we are only going off the in movie feats only so no guidebooks or previous arcs ti scale the characters meaning no star level Boros or namek saga frieza feats only the feats shown on screen in their respective episode and movie

Who wins between the emperor of the universe vs the dominator of the universe?

In the Resurrection F movie Frieza is shown to be able to fight on par and react to Goku who can dodge his laser blast so thats at least light speed reaction time

Also in the Resurrection F movie Frieza can destroy earth with a slight palm press while defeated and out of stamina pretty much he does this extremely casually and he survives the explosion even after he was severely beaten by two Super Saiyan gods

His golden form should be much stronger than his final form and he also has a stamina issue in the gold form

So he’s at least light speed and easily planet level going off of feats shown.

Boros on the other hand has some decent feats himself he’s able to blitz and clobber the one punch man the same hero that can jump from the moon to earth and know where he is going so Boros definitely has light speed attacks in his second form he can also blast large chunks of his ship which can level cities

In his final form he can destroy the earth with all of his released energy and thats his maximum output

His meteor form has an intense drain on his life force sk he cannot be in it for long

Who wins? Does frieza even go into golden form or does he casually deal with Boros? If he does can Boros Im his meteor form outlast gold frieza or does frieza outlast Boros? Both have an intense stamina or life force drain in their respective final forms.

I like this match up and tried to make it fair because ROF is my second favorite anime movie and opm season 1 is one of my favorite anime pieces ever created both had decent animation and came out the same year 2015 and kind of stirred up OPM vs DBZ debates

Before I begin or as I shiii say you begin to type about anything let me make it clear that I am only going off of the feats they shown in the season 1 anime and the 2015 movie only

So that means no statements,guidebooks, chainscaling from previous arcs meaning no feats from og dragon ball all the way to the frieza saga,cell saga,buu saga ,Battle of gods movie etc…

The only feats that will be discussed are the ones they visually show

So for my take this would be an interesting fight and it might be close but Goku might win

Saitama in the season 1 anime can easily destroy monsters that can wipe out cities like vaccine man at the start of the series, He can blow holes in mountains vs genos, and he can even destroy a huge meteor.

But his feats dont stop there for season 1

He was able to not only be kicked to the moon but he jumps back and leaves a very large crater on its surface

And he returns to earth in seconds after and damages the ship when he crashes back down

He also has a huge feat where he is able to stop the Dominator of the universes attack the collapsing star roaring canon that could “blast the planet to hell” and when stopped it splits the clouds across the earths surface

So possibly with in the relativistic speeds to even being in the light speed ranges and also being easily multi continental to even planetary ranges of power

And he does this casually

Now for Goku

In the movie he dodges a sneeze from beerus which reached a planet in seconds and destroyed it so thats relativistic speeds for sure

He fights the emperor of the universe in this movie and destroys large chunks of rock around them and even evaporates some clouds while in his base form state he then defeats the emperor in his super Saiyan god form and even gets caught off guard and is blasted near dead by a laser blaster once the emperor is defeated again by another super Saiyan god the emperor vows to see both of them in hell and blows up the planet with a casual hand push on the ground

It is later confirmed that the emperor survived even while weakened before initiating his blast he still shrugs off the aftermath casually and it’s confirmed the other super Saiyan god only perished due to lack of oxygen in space

He can also change the weather when he transforms from day to dark grey clouds i believe

Goku also dodge’s friezas lasers and beam attacks getting him more light speed range confirmation he also has the instant transmission technique

So Goku is Planetary easily and he is also light speed to even relativistic

So based off feats shown alone who wins?

Did I miss any in movie feats? Or anime feats? These are some of my two favorite anime pieces and I wanted a more specific matchup that doesn’t involve over convoluted power scaling…

Before I begin or as I shiii say you begin to type about anything let me make it clear that I am only going off of the feats they shown in the season 1 anime and the 2015 movie only

So that means no statements,guidebooks, chainscaling from previous arcs meaning no feats from og dragon ball all the way to the frieza saga,cell saga,buu saga ,Battle of gods movie etc…

The only feats that will be discussed are the ones they visually show

So for my take this would be an interesting fight and it might be close but Goku might win

Saitama in the season 1 anime can easily destroy monsters that can wipe out cities like vaccine man at the start of the series, He can blow holes in mountains vs genos, and he can even destroy a huge meteor.

But his feats dont stop there for season 1

He was able to not only be kicked to the moon but he jumps back and leaves a very large crater on its surface

And he returns to earth in seconds after and damages the ship when he crashes back down

He also has a huge feat where he is able to stop the Dominator of the universes attack the collapsing star roaring canon that could “blast the planet to hell” and when stopped it splits the clouds across the earths surface

So possibly with in the relativistic speeds to even being in the light speed ranges and also being easily multi continental to even planetary ranges of power

And he does this casually

Now for Goku

In the movie he dodges a sneeze from beerus which reached a planet in seconds and destroyed it so thats relativistic speeds for sure

He fights the emperor of the universe in this movie and destroys large chunks of rock around them and even evaporates some clouds while in his base form state he then defeats the emperor in his super Saiyan god form and even gets caught off guard and is blasted near dead by a laser blaster once the emperor is defeated again by another super Saiyan god the emperor vows to see both of them in hell and blows up the planet with a casual hand push on the ground

It is later confirmed that the emperor survived even while weakened before initiating his blast he still shrugs off the aftermath casually and it’s confirmed the other super Saiyan god only perished due to lack of oxygen in space

He can also change the weather when he transforms from day to dark grey clouds i believe

Goku also dodge’s friezas lasers and beam attacks getting him more light speed range confirmation he also has the instant transmission technique

So Goku is Planetary easily and he is also light speed to even relativistic

So based off feats shown alone who wins?

Did I miss any in movie feats? Or anime feats? These are some of my two favorite anime pieces and I wanted a more specific matchup that doesn’t involve over convoluted power scaling…

Who wins between these two?

Cosmic garou is able to create gamma ray blast and bulge the earth he should be above the psychic alien that can create blackholes gravity as well

He is also able to surivive Saitama as serious punch squared which destroyed multiple stars or even galaxies

They are able to cross mftl distances across the solar system and star systems they destroyed

Supreme is a beast

He can punch people so so hard into planets that the planets crack and then point them into the sun

He can one shot his sister suprema who can play kickball with stars and blackholes and even survive in one for years she also can hold a ball that weighs as much as a universe

So he is possibly in the multi galactic ranges

And he can circle the universe in seconds!!

Who wins this cosmic fight?

Two cosmic beings going at it can Omnipotus devour gorll the living galaxy?

In Supremes comic Gorrl is a living galaxy like his title says and he can trap suprema in a blackhole for thirty years and supreme doesn’t even fight him he bargains with him so he might be above supreme

Because he can do that to suprema who can play kickball with stars and blackholes apparently and she can supposedly lift a universe weighing ball so yeah he might have crazy scaling but bare minimum he’s galaxy level by default or even multi galactic

And he should be mftl by sheer size alone

Omnipotus has been states to crush city blocks in his fights and he can defeat most the guardians of the globe and only be defeated the first time by being sent back to his universe

Omnipotus claims to have destroyed his universe and devouring its energy so that is possibly multi galactic or universal

He comes back to earth again and says he’s near his full power after draining invincibles universe of energy for months

He is then one shot by dinosaurus who broke his teeth in thragg and Omni man can just barley fight thragg

Viltrumites can collapse under intense gravity or need assistance to destroy a planet and burn in the sun

So how do you guys think this fight goes down is it a mismatch or is it even?

Two gods son of an older god with a staff Odin and ra who wins?

I have Horus at massively hypersonic speeds as he can fly from space to earth in short time

He should also be planetary to star level as he can face off against Apophis who can devour the planet and face off against ra who is star level by being god of the sun and Set and kill ra and take his power and Horus can face off against set

Thor from the Mcu is able to shake the large portion of jotunheim in his first movie he can summon the bifrost which can shatter planets and he can move the rings of nvilider which are country sized he can withstand the heat of a star and he could not face off against surtur who is also a world ending threat as surtur can destroy Asgard which is like island sized or smaller but he could fight hela a little bit who fought surtur so there’s that

He should be around barley bullet speeds as he almost react to quicksilver who is confirmed to be bullet speeds

So I got Horus blitzing and one shotting mcu Thor though he might get a good hit in or two

Both of them are the final bosses of Greek mythology from different tales who wins?

They are both fire demon monster looking things who wins in an all out clash?

Kronos from Percy Jackson should logically scale to Zeus Poseidon and hades and Zeus in the first film could cause a storm all over the world and wreak havoc that’s multi continental

It is stated Poseidon the god of the sea was ready to wage war against Zeus the sea was going to fight the heavens cause great floods also another multi continental feat

The gods stated that when they wage war against humanity there will be earthquakes volcanic eruptions etc…

Apollo exist in this world automatically granting him star level by virtue of being god of the sun

Zeus scales above Apollo

Zeus thunderbolt is stated to be the most powerful weapon ever created so it should logically upscale nukes and any other gods abilities and capabilities like i just mentioned so his thunderbolt is multi continental to even star level by virtue of being stronger than Apollo or any weapon he can make

And idk about his speed but it should be relative to Percy who can dodge lightning so MHS

So yeah I have Kronos at multi continental to even star level

Chronos from wrath of titans is already mountain sized to begin with so he’s definitely mountain level already

Should scale above the kraken from the first movie which is also mountain sized

Should scale similar to Zeus since he fought him and Zeus in this story can also cause storms getting him the continental ranges of power and also Apollo exist in this universe as well making him star level and Zeus scales above him again so Zeus gets to star level off of that

Idk about his speed I never saw him react to Zeus lightning or Perseus react to Zeus lightning so idk about his speed but he can turn into an eagle and fly around so idk

Anyways who do you guys think wins?

The star level chain scaling is a bit crazy but I think every Zeus should be at least multi continental via storms and planet to star level as long as Apollo exist in the mythology adaptation and the titannomochy exist where they go to war with Helios atlas etc…

Apparently the god null defeated with one shot was a planet devouring god and thats really all we know

Boros has statements of blowing away planets surfaces planets themselves and even stars?

Does he Bore Boros? or does this nameless character entertain the dominator of the universe?

Can one obscure but cool final boss beat the other?

Null can supposedly one shot planet eating gods

And he stood on a stars surface and whooped tech jacket

Omnipotus can apparently consume entire universes and destroyed his native one and was apparently nearing his full power when dinosaurs one shot him

And we know viltrumites take considerable effort to bust a planet without dying and we all saw dinosaurus vs a viltrumite and a viltrumite in the sun

So do you think omnipotus is a lying fraud or is Null just a hearsayer and they’re both featless?

Who wins in you guys eyes?

Zeus vs a Zeus looking guy

Which of these Greek mythology inspired Netflix characters wins?

Kaos Zeus can cause storms and other natural disasters across the world and he can also surivive his lightning since hades survived it and he can survive a building explosion with no effort

He also has other abilities like mind control or telekinesis as he can make his son Dionysus bang his head on a table and he can turn people into animals or at least he should be able too because Hera can he also probably has loads of other abilities I forgot to mention but yeah crazy hax

As for Utopian he can fly and react so fast he can cross the country in seconds to find a teleporter who teleported right in front of him and he can fly into space and stop an asteroid coming to earth and come back before his wife wakes up he also can survive an explosion that can level half of Missouri so thats state level at least

Imo Zeus from Kaos wins via hax or environmental destruction but if he’s too slow he gets slammed

This should be an interesting fight could the dominator of the universe take down the supremacy?

Boros with his composite statements and collapsing star roaring canon should be anywhere from multi continental, planetary to Star level

And he should logically upscale flashy flash in speed who could not surprise and blitz Saitama where as Boros did surprise Saitama so he should 74 times the speed of light if flashy flashy is only 37 times SOL and he can possibly be higher if you say Saitama was still reacting and on par with Garous speed before growing in power so possibly even higher levels of mftl?

And he should upscale Geryuganshoop who can recreate the gravity of a blackhole so that supports the star level scaling

Supreme on the other hand has some crazy feats himself

As he can throw khromium into a planet destroying it and then a star he also can beat on suprema who can surivive in a blackhole for thirty years and also can play kickball with stars and blackholes

And there’s a crazy lifting feat although you can take it with a grain of salt that suprema lifted a ball that weighed as much as the universe

He also is able to leave our solar system in just a few hours and supposedly to circle the universe in apparently

He also insane regen and adaptation although Boros has regend with his crystal ball or his biology idk about adaptation though as his regeneration was overpowered eventually or the crystal ball was shattered

So this is possibly close imo if the suprema feat is taken with a grain of salt and not counted for entirely but idk if you do count it he might slam my goat Boros

Gorrl the living galaxy is obviously galaxy level and mftl by size alone he can also trap people in blackholes for thirty years

And Saitama with the nature of his feats could he actually one shot such a huge character?

In the manga he clashes fist with garou with his serious punch squared and in the next panel after blast teleporter them into space there seems to be a black void left in the aftermath of their clash

Some opm fans speculate that they destroyed countless stars and some even speculated that they destroyed galaxies due to the nebula found in the prior panels and the light of galaxies and light years it would take the reach us so there being no light means they destroyed that entire area of stats and potentially galaxies

So the real question is does Saitama finish the job with a serious punch squared? Or does he need more than one punch lol he can dish out consecutive normal punches so he can hit a bunch of hits in seconds

So who wins? It would be cool to see Saitama one shot a galaxy sized being with one punch since his destruction capability should be that high

Two Superman like characters clash

Blast has his awesome portals and reality warping attacks and he should be at least as strong as Boros who is multi continental to star level and blast might possibly be higher as he should compare to gamma ray burst garou and empty void who has dimensionally transcending swords

Supreme the heavy hitter is strong enough to fling people into planets and destroy them and also into stars he is stronger than his sister by one shotting her and she can play kickball with blackholes and stars and she can survive in a blackhole for thirty years she can also apparently lift a universe weighing ball and thats crazy as a feat lol

Now this is an insane fight that could go either way imo

Another pair of image comics Superman clones that are red and white all over

Supremes feats are legit insane he can throw people into planets and destroy them he can even throw them into stars an punch with 500 times the force of any nuke he can fly across the universe and circle it

He’s stronger than suprema who survived inside of a blackhole for thirty years and she can kick around black holes and stars she also apparently lifted some type of universe weighing ball thingy?

He also has absurd broken abilities

Plutonian is no joke either

He has hurled meteors at cities

Carved his symbol into the United States

He’s survived in a stars core

He can also fly across the universe with mftl speeds

And apparently at full experience he would have powers similar to the eleos which can manipulate and time reality itself

Who do y’all got winnning?

Ik standing by my goat supreme but Plutonian might actually slam lol

Two image comics red and white and gold grey haired Superman rip offs face off who wins

Supreme is literally insane with feats mftl casual speeds planet level hits normally throwing people into stars and planets and his sister can lift a universe supposedly and she can kick blackholes and surivive in them for 30 years lol dudes cracked because he’s stronger than her

Utopian has some crazy feats like surivive state level explosions and stopping asteroids but compared to supreme he’s getting frame mogged and obliterated

Who do you guys got though?