Were there many anti-western novels or movies prior to Blood Meridian?

As a kid my introduction to westerns was John Wayne movies and Louis L'amour books. Which are quite tame in comparison to McCarthy's works

As an adult who has a history degree and personal interest in Plains history specifically since I grew up in an area whose often overlooked history is rife with violence from all sorts perpetrators (Native v Native, army v Native, cattlemen v farmers etc) . I know that the plains and western expansion were bloody and violent affairs. And I welcome the more gritty depictions we've seen in movies such as hostiles and American Primeval since even if they are works of historical fiction, they paint a more accurate picture of the era.

However, these didn't seem to be too popular in the 20th century. The main example I can think of is dances with wolves, but even that was tame compared to reality. But I think it at least tried.

So I guess that was a lot of words to ask, are there other 20th century works outside of McCarthy that are willing to go against the mainstream 20th century depictions of western expansion?

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If Harvey Hill had withdrawn from the sunken road sooner- would he had been able to conserve enough men to launch a more effective counter attack?

Sunken road was a great ad hoc defensive position until it wasn't. Had General Hill pulled his men out before the road was flanked could they have mounted a better counter attack all other things held equal?

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u/Guilty_Position_3026 — 5 days ago

My volleyball ticket appointment is next week. How are things looking?

See title

Have heard they had an unexpected amount of people take the max amount of seats.

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u/Guilty_Position_3026 — 6 days ago

Beer vendor gave me a baseball card since I was keeping score.

Felt bad for not buying anything, but I was already two natty Boh's deep and dehydrated as heck after walking around and looking at all the ships in the harbor for fleet week

u/Guilty_Position_3026 — 9 days ago

What are the chances the game on Friday gets moved due to the forecasted rain?

And is it more likely to get shifted to earlier in the day or make Saturday a double header?!

Thanks!

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u/Guilty_Position_3026 — 27 days ago
▲ 42 r/USMC

If you're a devil dog in DC from 4th CEB, I have your weapons cards.

Also OC and handcuffing certs from safari land. Shoot me a DM and I'll get them back to you. Gunny never has to find out.

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u/Guilty_Position_3026 — 1 month ago
▲ 5 r/WMATA

I get the need for maintenance. But over an hour to get from Eisenhower to union station is ridiculous

Mostly venting because i.missed my Amtrak

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u/Guilty_Position_3026 — 1 month ago
▲ 144 r/baltimore

Ignorant question- how am I supposed to pay my fare on the light rail?

First off- love your city. As a guy on a long work trip to DC from a flyover state, I've taken a couple day trips to Baltimore and man it is a diamond in the rough. So much history, art and great food. But y'all already know that.

Anyway, I went to the ball game yesterday (side note beautiful park, I'll give it a few weeks to account for recency bias, but I think it will crack my top 3). I purchased the fare on the app. But I got on, didn't see a place to scan nor did anyone ask me to see proof of payment.

So how am I supposed to pay? I'm not trying to get rung up for theft of services next time I'm in your wonderful city.

Edit- thank you all. Didn't realize it was essentially an honor system. But I will happily pay!

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u/Guilty_Position_3026 — 1 month ago