u/HiILikePlants

Apologies for how long this is

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I tried to make a post on another sub sharing some thoughts around the initial choice to get on these meds and how it's not just a magic, simple choice. Everyone acknowledges a lot of people can't eat and drink exactly the way they did before (some ppl can and enjoy all the same foods without issue, but it's common for people to find some foods too rich and less enjoyable).

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I specifically shared that I have a BIL who is a bigger guy. He's solidly a proud older gay bear. He and his husband have that DINK lifestyle and love traveling, drinking a lot, and eating a lot (I should add here–his husband is actually my BIL, he's the husband of my BIL but I just call him BIL too)

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I don't think he's very concerned about his weight, but I do remember seeing he was happy to share when he'd lost a few pounds some time ago (but has since gained it back and maybe then some, idk), which is why the thought to occured to me at all

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I have lost some weight on Zepbound (had "lean" PMOS until getting on Zoloft and it was like a flip switched) and I thought about what I'd say if BIL noticed the weight loss. Would I share? Would he be interested in hearing about it for his own reasons?

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And then I thought, he probably wouldn't be very interested in it. He loves to drink and eat. He and his husband can knock back a few drinks a couple times a week. They have a cute mini bar at home. They love wine and cocktails and joke about being bougie often. They have guests over and make cute cocktail lists.

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I was just sharing this aside and how these meds aren't magic in the sense that it's not a magic shot you can take and just lose weight. It changes how you interact with food. A lot of people find it changes how they can enjoy alcohol. It's a deliberate choice made with the understanding that the enjoyment of those things might change.

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I used to like having a couple drinks and going out dancing, but now I can't really even enjoy sipping much wine bc it makes me feel weird and raises my HR a lot. All fine for me but an adjustment and I'm sure some people wouldn't be thrilled with that change.

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People said I was "dragging" him, gatekeeping, etc. some said what did being gay have to do with anything? I was like I only mention that to paint a picture bc iykyk?? The people that get it, get it–but no one there seemed to get it.

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Like it's literally a stereotype/joke that some gays love indulging and enjoying the finer things, that they have great taste and the dual income to live it up. Their friends love to comment on their travel photos and say how posh and bougie their high life is.

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They're cute and always like hmm what are we gonna eat tonight, what new place are we gonna try, what cocktails are we gonna have?

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They basically always have a drink in their hand in their photos. They like to get pretty toasty. They have a big social circle and go out a lot and everyone drinks a lot. It would just be a big adjustment, I explained.

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Someone tried to say they are a straight DINK (and asked why I mentioned him being gay) who used to love to party (key word: used to bro!) and didn't think it was cool of me to not share with him about zep if I was thinking about it in the first place, that he'd probably be a great candidate and I was making assumptions.

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He's rich and educated. My husband said he and his friends talk about any and everything, they know who's on glp1s, etc etc. The man is familiar with glp1s and could start them any time. Money and info are not barriers. He doesn't need me to tell him about it.

Also my husband pointed out that the BILs are kinda judgy and like to gossip and would tell everyone in the family about me being on zep if I shared that, so I would have to be ok with that. And my main BIL is kinda judgy in general about health and fitness and "laziness" and doesn't really even believe in ADHD, for example.

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Someone said my post was giving anti diet glp 1 vibes, so I came here and was left thinking–is that supposed to be a bad thing? 🫠

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I also used to work on service and wine and beverage and thought that a lot of those ppl also probably wouldn't be great candidates. They sip wine all day for a living and eat nice rich cheeses and this med might not necessarily fit into their lifestyle that easily. Just thoughts like thatm

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I also mentioned that some people are food addicted and not ready to make the change. And some ppl said I was wrong, bc the meds would basically make the choice for them. But I tried to explain I meant some aren't ready to take that first step in the first place!

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Someone said I don't understand how these meds work even though I wrote that I get how food addiction, hormones, genetics etc play into that and understand how these meds can really rewire those reward pathways, how food addiction isn't a "choice" in and of itself.

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Like one lady on Tiktok, she used to cry about her weight years ago in videos and was briefly in a TLC segment about obese teens. She used to cry about how she was scared to die early and wanted to make a change. She eventually said she was giving up. She goes live in her care facility doing Uber eats mukbangs (not my description, hers) and asking what she should have next.

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Ppl have asked her about glp1s/surgery, and she isn't interested. Someone in that position might never be ready to make that initial choice. It would fundamentally reshape her life and change the pleasure she has around food. That first step is in itself a choice to be made and that can be daunting for people. That's all I said.

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I ended up deleting my post bc the whole thing was annoying and it felt like people were committed to misunderstanding or assuming ill intent.

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I hope someone understands what I was getting at and understands I'm not downplaying how awesome these meds are and what they can do, but that they aren't magic in the sense that you take them and can just carry on the way you were (well some ppl can, but a lot can't)

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To clarify, i'm not asking if something sounds like narcolepsy. I'm currently seeing a sleep specialist and waiting for testing, but I have been reading about various sleep disorders. I want to ask if those with narcolepsy often cannot wake up to pee once they're asleep?

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With narcolepsy, you would struggle to transition from asleep to awake? Does this mean you don't or can't wake up suddenly in the night to pee? I cut off liquids but have to pee 3x a night no matter what. I'm able to hop out of bed and do so and then struggle to go back to sleep. Each time, it's also not a small amount of pee, it's a lot. I've read that sleep apnea can signal to the brain and kidneys to produce urine, so that's something to be ruled out.

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But then I've also read narcolepsy can result in needing to pee at night (nocturia) due to fragmented sleep

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So really what I'm wondering is if people with narcolepsy can even jolt up to pee? It seems bed wetting can be an issue, too

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I will say my husband has watched me sleep and never sees me gasp or snore for air or stop breathing, but idk if that means sleep apnea is unlikely. Obviously needs to be fully ruled out though

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Unfortunately when I used the search bar for this topic, all the posts were related to oxybates causing people to wet the bed

I notice my eye twitching badly if I take ADHD meds for more than a day.

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I took a break from the meds entirely for a month. I had stopped feeling like they were helping me, just felt awful side effects on it, despite taking with protein, water, etc

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I tried taking some again the other day and felt ok ish, not great. Took them for a couple days in a row. Before, I would take them 2-3x a week but spaced out.

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Now my eye hasn't stopped twitching 😭 this isn't new to me on Adderall, but I hate it. And my sleep is so poor right before my period, which isn't helping. I haven't taken the Adderall in 3 days but it's still twitching away.

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I take high quality magnesium glycinate and get electrolytes and all that. Nothing really helps when it starts up like this

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Does anyone else deal with this?

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I'm about to see a sleep specialist too bc I am starting to suspect I may be narcoleptic or something? My husband says I don't snore or gasp in my sleep, so I'm leaning away from sleep apnea. I'm so tired all the time, it's just insane. Thyroid checked out, antibody stuff, my vitamin d is great, iron is high, ferritin is high, b vitamins are good 😭 idk how I can be this tired but it's been years of this and it's really wearing on me

So I mostly stick to GL or the GL cups but did a lot of UL a few seasons back. My team was something like ampharos, feraligatr, and I'm forgetting the 3rd, maybe escavalier in the front? It was fun and ppl weren't as good as they are now. I swear there are way more competitive players every season. I know it's also early in the season so the serious competitive try hards are going full swing but that's ok 😮‍💨

I'm hating the preview cup. Did one and it was so clunky so I guess I'll try UL. This is a lazy post–I'm sorry. I'm not super serious, just play for fun but losing a lot also isn't fun lol

I have a lot of the top picks on pvpoke but no legendaries, I think enough XL candy to build most of the mons in the top overall though

Also an aside while I lament the good old days, but my first season to two playing GBL in like 2022/23, I got so many legendaries 😭 which was awesome as someone who doesn't really raid or play socially IRL. I miss that legendary rate and that's what got me hooked so I just don't play as much these days