Evanuris Hierarchy vs Old Gods Hierarchy

Hello all!

When I first played Veilguard, something that stuck out to me as odd was that Elgarnan, the leader of the Evanuris, was linked to the archdemon Lusacan rather than Dumat, since Dumant was the leader of the Old God pantheon in the old Tevinter religion, and supposedly the strongest among them. I've spent (a small part of) the past two years trying to reconcile this.

Then it hit me: Maybe Dumat wasn't always considered the leader of the Old Gods.

Dragon Age has never shied away from how religion and politics can mix. The Book of Shartan was removed from the Chantry's canon for political reasons, to help justify the Exalted March on the Dales, for example. We also know from the codex entries that, despite the high priests being able to talk to their gods in their dreams, they still bickered amongst each other about how to build the Imperium and its symbols, such as the Archon's palace.

And then we can look at real world religions. In the Ancient Near East, most of the nations believed in the same pantheon of gods, but each of the small states asserted that their god was the one who was head of the pantheon and the one who killed Tiamat. What if the religion of the Old Gods was similar?

What if there were power struggles among the high priests of the Old Gods throughout the Imperium's hay-day? Maybe whichever god's cult had the most influence would change the officials stance of the religion to say that their god was the leader of the pantheon and the strongest among the gods.

When Corypheus lead the other Magisters Sindereal into the Black City, it just so happened that his cult (the cult of Dumat) was the one with the most influence (and probably had been for decades), and since that was the state the religion was left in when the First Blight devastated the Imperium and the high priests stopped being able to hear their gods, that was how history has remembered the Imperium's religion. So while Dumat was remembered as the strongest of the Old Gods, it was actually Lusacan, just as Elgarnan would have demanded when the Evanuris created their dragon thralls.

What do y'all think of this idea?

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u/Important-Contact597 — 4 days ago
▲ 0 r/Avatarthelastairbende+1 crossposts

The new movie proves that it makes NO sense for Katara, Toph, and Zuko to be so weak in TLOK.

In ATLA, we are presented with numerous examples of old people who are still very powerful benders/fighters. Bumi is, of course, the first to come to mind, but Pakku, Jeong Jeong, Iroh, and to a lesser extent Pian Dao are further examples. And, given the number of fire bender corpses around him, Monk Gyatso is another example.

But then in TLOK, Katara, Toph, and Zuko are all presented as weak and frail in their old age.

Toph's back is killing her just from tossing Korra around a bit, to the point that she flees from Kuvira rather than fight after rescuing her family. Compare that to Bumi, who took back his entire city single-handedly despite being 40 years older than the Toph we see in TLOK.

Zuko is two-shot by Ghazan. Compare that to Iroh's performance against the Dai Li.

Katara never fights at all, despite her home being invaded. Compare that to Pakku's demonstration of skill during the Sieg of the North or Sozin's comet.

The single most common explanation people give is "But there wasn't a war anymore. They didn't need to stay in shape like Bumi and Pakku and Jeong Jeong and Iroh and Pian Dao did."

Well, guess what? There hadn't been a war for over a decade by the time of Avatar Aang The Last Airbender. Is our main cast 10 years out of practice? Nope! They're performing bending feats far beyond what they performed in the show. Which proves that all of them are the kind of people to keep in shape even during times of peace.

So there's no excuse as to why any of them would let themselves go in old age when we have clear examples that it's entirely possible for old people to be incredibly powerful benders in this world.

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u/Important-Contact597 — 2 months ago
▲ 45 r/StarWarsCirclejerk+1 crossposts

Clone Wars (2003) did permanent damage to the franchise.

Star Wars Clone Wars (the 2003 miniseries by Tartokovsky) is something I've loved ever since it first aired. Out of pure nostalgia, I've always preferred it to the 2008 series. But now, after watching Star Wars Theory's Vader Episode 2, I've realized how much damage it did to the franchise.

Tartokovsky is primarily an action director, and Clone Wars was no exception. His series was defined by high energy action set pieces. Of particular note is an episode where Mace Windu destroys an entire battalion of battle droids with his bare hands.

The entire episode is just this for 5 minutes.

The problem is: Star Wars was never supposed to be a power fantasy. It was never supposed to have Jedi destroying armies with their bare hands or freezing balster bolts mid-air and then sending them back at their enemies. But because a generation of fans grew up seeing exactly that, they now think that THAT is what Star Wars should be (or at least, what it's missing). They prefer spectacle over character, violence over themes. It's even begun affecting official media, where Jedi are now far more powerful and action-oriented than they were under Lucas.

No Force User ever stopped a blaster bolt mid-air before this scene.

Compare Luke's action packed entrance in The Mandalorian to his calm and controlled entrance in Return of the Jedi.

The Darth Vader Hallway scene is unlike anything Star Wars had on film before. Because it was never about the violence before.

And you have entire episodes of Disney+ shows attempting to mimic the action set pieces of 2003 clone wars.

Half the episode is just Boba Fett killing people.

That leads us to today, where we have Mace Windu acting completely out of character, unless the only thing you've ever seen him in is the 2003 clone wars series.

https://preview.redd.it/43zyskp9mngh1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=c82d0938cdfb9da0299099cfca0c9c6bd800d409

Sure, this is just a fan film. But my generation of Star Wars fans, Star Wars Theory's generation of Star Wars fans, the generation poisoned by the 2003 series, is just now reaching the age where we might start seeing them helm official Star Wars projects. And if that happens, the flanderization of characters and glorification of violence will make the Sequel Trilogy look like a master piece.

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u/Important-Contact597 — 3 months ago

[Hot Take] Guys... I'm pretty sure the Calamity will turn out to be Sozin's Comet hitting the earth.

I mean, just think about it. Sozin's Comet breached the atmosphere the last time we saw it, and IRL physics (which the ATLA world definitely obeys 100%) tells us that a comet doesn't maintain the same orbit exactly, but is either slowly leaving or slowly falling into a star or planet's gravity well. This means that, when the comet next appears ~30 years after the end of TLOK, it hits the planet and the population blames Korra for not stopping it.

It's really the only logical choice, when you consider the evidence and lore established by the prior series. Vaatu can't reemerge for another 10,000 years after all, and the Spirit Portals were constantly portrayed as a net good for the series. And Korra is such an inherently good person, that there's no way she'd destroy the world while in the Avatar State with an evil grin on her face.

Anyway, I thought I'd share this theory because I haven't seen anyone else with this idea. What do y'all think?

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u/Important-Contact597 — 3 months ago

[Hot Take] Guys... I'm pretty sure the Calamity will turn out to be Sozin's Comet hitting the earth.

I mean, just think about it. Sozin's Comet breached the atmosphere the last time we saw it, and IRL physics (which the ATLA world definitely obeys 100%) tells us that a comet doesn't maintain the same orbit exactly, but is either slowly leaving or slowly falling into a star or planet's gravity well. This means that, when the comet next appears ~30 years after the end of TLOK, it hits the planet and the population blames Korra for not stopping it.

It's really the only logical choice, when you consider the evidence and lore established by the prior series. Vaatu can't reemerge for another 10,000 years after all, and the Spirit Portals were constantly portrayed as a net good for the series. And Korra is such an inherently good person, that there's no way she'd destroy the world while in the Avatar State with an evil grin on her face.

Anyway, I thought I'd share this theory because I haven't seen anyone else with this idea. What do y'all think?

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u/Important-Contact597 — 3 months ago

[Hot Take] Guys... I'm pretty sure the Calamity will turn out to be Sozin's Comet hitting the earth.

I mean, just think about it. Sozin's Comet breached the atmosphere the last time we saw it, and IRL physics (which the ATLA world definitely obeys 100%) tells us that a comet doesn't maintain the same orbit exactly, but is either slowly leaving or slowly falling into a star or planet's gravity well. This means that, when the comet next appears ~30 years after the end of TLOK, it hits the planet and the population blames Korra for not stopping it.

It's really the only logical choice, when you consider the evidence and lore established by the prior series. Vaatu can't reemerge for another 10,000 years after all, and the Spirit Portals were constantly portrayed as a net good for the series. And Korra is such an inherently good person, that there's no way she'd destroy the world while in the Avatar State with an evil grin on her face.

Anyway, I thought I'd share this theory because I haven't seen anyone else with this idea. What do y'all think?

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u/Important-Contact597 — 3 months ago

[Hot Take] Guys... I'm pretty sure the Calamity will turn out to be Sozin's Comet hitting the earth.

I mean, just think about it. Sozin's Comet breached the atmosphere the last time we saw it, and IRL physics (which the ATLA world definitely obeys 100%) tells us that a comet doesn't maintain the same orbit exactly, but is either slowly leaving or slowly falling into a star or planet's gravity well. This means that, when the comet next appears ~30 years after the end of TLOK, it hits the planet and the population blames Korra for not stopping it.

It's really the only logical choice, when you consider the evidence and lore established by the prior series. Vaatu can't reemerge for another 10,000 years after all, and the Spirit Portals were constantly portrayed as a net good for the series. And Korra is such an inherently good person, that there's no way she'd destroy the world while in the Avatar State with an evil grin on her face.

Anyway, I thought I'd share this theory because I haven't seen anyone else with this idea. What do y'all think?

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u/Important-Contact597 — 3 months ago
▲ 1 r/ATLAtv+2 crossposts

There's a decent chance that a TLOK live action remake would be better than the OG.

Unlike ATLA, which didn't have much room for improvement, TLOK had and has a LOT of criticisms levied against it. From the love triangle, to Korra's characterization in Book 2, to Unalaq being a lack-luster villain, to the 4 seasons feeling disjointed and unconnected, to Mako, Bolin, & Asami struggling to be relevant to the plot, to Korrasami having an intentionally tame and vague buildup because of the politics of the time; all of these are problems that a live action remake could address and, potentially, do better than the cartoon.

Love Triangle? Korrasami's lack-luster buildup? Both gone. Korra and Asami can be dating as early as Book 1.

Korra's characterization in Book 2? Toned down to something more acceptable. No Makorra also means the scene where Korra blows up at Mako at the police station either doesn't happen, or at least doesn't come across as a toxic relationship.

Unalaq being a lack-luster villain? Easy. Just about any rewriting of the character would make him more interesting. Even making him obviously evil from the get-go would be better; portray Korra as making a "deal with the devil" because she doesn't have any other way to stop the dark spirits. Or make Unalaq and his motivations more sympathetic in some way.

Disjointed seasons? Also easy. Live Action writers would have the advantage of knowing how the story ends, and could rewrite elements of the first two books to more naturally flow into books 3 & 4, potentially even strengthening the lead-in from book 3 to book 4 as well (such as building up Kuvira more during book 3).

Mako, Bolin, and Asami? Asami dating Korra from the beginning would keep her relevant for the entire show. Mako and Bolin typically found things relevant for in Books 2 & 3, though Mako struggled for relevance in Book 4, and I don't really see a good way to fix that, but I'd say his last stand in the Colossus helps make up for it already. We might also get actual foreshadowing for Bolin's lavabending.

Plus, there's runtime. NATLA and ATLA have similar runtimes per season, but live action tends to require more time to do something than animation does. TLOK, on the other hand, has about half the runtime per season compared to ATLA. This would mean that a Live Action TLOK series would potentially have MORE runtime per season than its animated counterpart, giving it the space it needs to breathe and properly flesh out the changes it makes.

And, with TLOK being set in a more modern world, set design for a live action remake would probably be easier/faster/cheaper, which could help the series' budget to be used to better affect that NATLA's.

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u/Important-Contact597 — 3 months ago
▲ 655 r/dragonage

An Underappreciated aspect of Veilguard's "Bad" Ending

  1. If Hawke was left in the Fade, we can assume that the armor that appears at the Lighthouse was actually left there by Hawke, who is now running around the Fade butt-naked.
  2. The armor is always that of a Mage Hawke, implying that Hawke is canonically a mage in Veilguard.
  3. It is possible to finish the game while wearing Hawke's armor.
  4. In the bad ending, Rook is pulled into the Fade with Solas.
  5. In a bad ending where Hawke was left in the Fade, this means that Solas is trapped in the Fade with both Hawke and Rook.
  6. Both Hawke and Rook really liked Varric.
  7. Even if Solas stabbing Rook was a mortal wound, a Mage Hawke could theoretically cure that wound.

Conclusion:

In Veilguard's bad ending, Solas spends the rest of eternity getting his ass beat by a butt-naked Hawke and Rook (who may very well be wearing Hawke's armor), while they keep yelling "This is for Varric you stupid Egg!" at him.

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u/Important-Contact597 — 4 months ago