r/AvatarSevenHavens

ATLA had a much more mystical, adventurous, ancient music style with traditional Eastern instruments, along with more emphasis on character-specific leitmotifs. LOK's modernized setting led the composers to give it a more modernized music style in-line with 1920's-esque music (especially in Book 1), along with generally more complex compositions with more strings, jazzy brass, etc.

What are you expecting/hoping for regarding the music in Seven Havens? What kind of musical style would best blend with a post-apocalyptic yet Eastern-inspired setting? Could it include more electronic sounds like synthesizers to reflect the likely growth in technology? Should it be unlike anything we're used to hearing to reflect how alien the new world is? Curious what everyone thinks!

I have an ATLA theory, as people believe if aang never ran off after believing gyatso woidlnt be his master, that he woidl have died in the massacre, but i dont beleive so as the avatar state woudl activate to keep him alive (as we see in canon and its nit until after the lightning from azula thta aang struggles with it) so likely he woudl survive it while being traumatised and still hopefull (confuswd mainly and greaving) as he is lured into the airnomad refugee camps by the fire nation (as we see mentioned by zhao in canon) he would survive it and spent the next years battlimg and ambushing fire nation troops while being hunted (he wpild onlt have 2-3 of the elemwnts (not fire and maybe not water (he is a prodigy in it but he woudl have earth due to bumi)).

As he dies the next avatar is a water avatar likely arpund pakku or hama generation (could even be a swamp bender who never gets involved into the war inthe forst place); lets go with the hama route, her story is very similar to canon except during the southern raids its hama entering the avatar state that causes the ship to be held in ice, thoufh she passes our aoon after as she is sti capturwd but ita in xaptivity under the full moon and avatar state that she unlocks bloodbending, as she escales and frees a few other water benders as she spends thw rest of her life in hiding taking out some fire natiom patrols and troops in the night and she leaves till old age close to the time line of the canon story.

As she dies the next avatar is a earth avatar from the earth kingdom, Toph Beifong a blind rich girl babied by her parents for her percoeved frailty, though she secretly enters the avatar state as a child whoch causes a coty wide tremor and sink holes as she is stuck underground she learns earth bending fr thw badgermoles as after the incident (percieved as anatural distater but also allerting the fire nation) she is babied even more by her parents which incentives her secrelty rebellious personal in thw blind bandit in the underground arena (and her avatar journey woudl just go on from there) (this also fits in the canon systematic hunting of the nations during the 100 year war (air due to going after aang, water for his successor amd earth for the one after thata (though in canon it was stalled due to aang being on ice)). I call this "Avatar Survivor Chronicles"

Hello!

I’ve been giving Seven Havens a lot of thought, especially how the story might work out, and I have a few theories to throw into the ring!

The 300-Year Gap

At the end of her life, Korra was confronted with a crisis that threatened to destabilize both the Spirit World and the Physical World. To stop it, she used energybending to seal away this calamitous force. She entered the Avatar State and placed herself into stasis, holding the force back for 300 years.

Before doing so, Korra performed an incredible act of bending that moved the surviving remnants of humanity into small settlements known as havens. She maintained the seal until she eventually grew too weak and died, hidden from the world. After her death, the Avatar Spirit was reborn into Pavi.

Introducing the twins

Pavi’s mother is running away from one of the havens because she is an earthbender and does not want her twin children to be raised in an oppressive environment where benders are weaponized. She is eventually caught, and something terrible happens to her and Nisha. Pavi’s mother dies, and Nisha is so badly injured that she is on the verge of death.

This trauma triggers Pavi’s Avatar State, and she uses energybending to save Nisha. In doing so, Pavi gives part of her own spirit or soul to Nisha, allowing Raava to coexist within both of them. The White Lotus eventually catches up to the two girls, but Pavi remains hidden while Nisha is taken away, mistaken for the Avatar. Pavi lives on the streets, and has forgotten that she has a twin and is discovered by Jae. I feel like the big bad for both books will be the calamitous force and end with the merging of the Spirit and Physical world.

I don't think this series will be particular dark or traumatic, I feel like it'll be more light spirited like ATLA was with a focus on the relationship of these two girls navigating this new world, and while some during the era of Korra asked do we even still need an Avatar? ASH will prove that yes, the world still need it's Avatar, more than ever.

Happy to hear thoughts, vibes, heckling?

I’m not deep into avatar but I’m an enjoyer of the original cartoon. I didn’t enjoy The legends of Korra and never truly watched it through. I also don’t look into the leaks and stuff but I have heard that the next avatar is placed in a world that has been destroyed. Now I understand it’s a cool idea. But it’s frustrating me because it feels like now everything that Aang and his friends had done is just now invalidated and really meant nothing. The original gang and all their accomplishments lasted only a few generations. Only one generation of an avatar. I really think that it has potential to be a cool plot, but not after all the love everyone has for the original series. It just destroys the whole purpose in my opinion. I understand production desires and a new setting and a reset a bit, but it just feels wrong.
What do you all think?

So I 've been keeping up with a fair amount of posts on this subreddit and online for information about ASH. (I'm really excited!) But I am a little bit confused about this repeated 300 year time jump I keep seeing?

I can't find any actual sources that claim Pavi's story takes place 300 years after Korra's.

I've seen claims of a long time since we've seen the Avatar. I've seen claims that the creators said the took inspiration from shows like lost and planet of the apes (the latter of which has a 300 year time skip I think) but nothing on the actual time gap for the show. Did people just make up some rumor or was it ever actually confirmed?

Raava thaught Wan (the first avatar) how to bend all 4 elements,Vaatu with Unalaq only knew how to Water bend and spirit bend.

if Nisha was the dark avatar,she would only be able to water bend,but in the leaks its stated that boh twins can bend all 4 elements,so that doesnt leave room for this theory.

Unless, bc there might be a huge time gap between LoK and ASH there might've been a dark avatar that Vaatu thaught how to bend the other elements,even tho,as of our current knowledge,Vaatu is sealed.

I have seen people who said that the next series should be set in a futuristic setting or even cyberpunk, and to me that really just strips away the distinct identity.

Also the biggest problem I would have had with it is if they were to bit the next show in as futuristic of a setting as possible, there’s really no way to evolve forward beyond that, as how do you go even more futuristic than cyberpunk if whatever.

In regards to Seven Havens, I really hated the idea of getting rid of the four nations at first, and while I still don’t like it, I think I would definitely be more open to it if the Seven Havens were all based on sub bending groups, sort of like how Zaofu is but on a much larger scale. Correct me if I’m wrong but the main Haven for the series will be “Elora” and as far as I can tell the havens won’t be based on bending or elements.

The characters are where I struggle the most, the Pavi and Nisha characters are like 8, and I would prefer if they were at least Aangs age during ATLA. Plus we’ve all seen the character designs and how they look like Pokémon characters.

Finally just a quick random thing, so many people when thinking about future series all put a lot of stress into how the tech and cities will evolve for the future, however I think that slowing in down development would be cool, it is in fact a fictional universe, so they shouldn’t have to really be pressured into aligning the timeline with ours and advancing things similarly, even though they did do that for the ATLA to LoK jump. I think that anything beyond modern day would just sort of lose the Avatar identity. So i‘d rather they focus more on advancements in politics and society rather than actual infrastructure and tech, although of course some improvements would be fine.

Id also love to know other people’s opinions for what they think is best for the franchise post Korra.

Far as I know father glow worm was never fully killed and I have heard a leak says he would be one of the villains in ASH and I wonder how that work exactly without pavi outright just dying

Granted my theory is Based off my own fanfic the broken avatar but . I Fell like Korra went through an Extremely Hard Time with Dark spirits and started a war against Dark spirits and some human cults with Korra forced to become a Soldier and violent mirroring . Wan and Kyoshi and Kuruk and one of her friends in her group betrayed her and that how she died.

Know I think Korra is going to be used a The Mask silent Character that doesn’t speak and uses sign language to communicate and is very much a loner . and I think through the show we will see small sections where we are in the spirit world where the , Past avatars are trying to help Korra and Pavi will be the one who gets Korra to come back from being alone

I don't mean like character cameos or callbacks. This is more about things that you liked or didn't like about the show. In terms of themes, writing, world building, ideas, execution of concepts etc. I'm really curious to hear your thoughts on this as someone who wasn't the biggest fan of korra, but appreciated certain things - like multiple attempts at writing an engaging nuanced villain, as opposed to the big bad Ozai (not necessarily a bad antagonist but I appreciated their attempts at adding more nuanced villains).

I was thinking about reports and articles explaining how difficult it was to make the Spiderman movies a reality because of the legal discussions between Disney and Sony about the rights to Spiderman and other Marvel characters. And that made me wonder: does Netflix own some of the IP/streaming rights for all ATLA related content? Subsequently, do you guys think that could have played a large role in the creators' choice for an apocalyptic narrative in Seven Heavens? I was thinking it could have been their solution to create a more clean slate going forward (minimal references to the characters and world of ATLA) and avoid legal discussions with Netflix. And if so, do you think they'll avoid cameos from spirits etc from ATLA in Seven Havens? (EDITED bc I am horrible at structering my thoughts coherently)