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Hey yall, I was looking back at the Cavs' 2007 first round sweep of the Wizards and realized just how ridiculous the LeBron/Big Z duo was in the closeout game.

On April 30, 2007, in Game 4 in Washington, LeBron James and Zydrunas Ilgauskas combined for:

1. LeBron- 31 PTS, 11 REB, 7 AST, 3 STL, 1 BLK 8/22 FG, 14/17 FT, 52.6% TS, +12
2. Ilgauskas- 20 PTS, 19 REB, 1 AST, 2 BLK 9/16 FG, 2/2 FT, 59.2% TS, +12

Combined: 51 PTS, 30 REB, 8 AST, 3 STL, 3 BLK

LeBron obviously gets remembered for the 31/11/7, but Big Z quietly put together an absurd 20/19 game in the same contest. He completely controlled the glass and interior, shooting 9/16 from the field and 2/2 from the line.

The crazy part is how complementary the performances were. LeBron was doing basically everything on the perimeter while Ilgauskas dominated the paint and boards.

51 points + 30 rebounds + 8 assists + 6 combined stocks, with both players finishing +12, in a road closeout is nothing to sneeze at.

I'm not saying this was the greatest duo performance in playoff history, but I genuinely think it deserves to be mentioned when talking about the best two-man performances in a playoff closeout game.

Hey everyone. I recently came across an interview of Gretta Vosper, an openly atheist minister in the  United Church of Canada who has argued that Christianity can still function meaningfully even without belief in a supernatural God.

From what I understand, her approach places heavy emphasis on ethics, community, ritual, symbolism, social justice, and the cultural/spiritual aspects of Christianity; while rejecting traditional supernatural beliefs.

What interests me is that, despite rejecting belief in God in the traditional sense, she still seems to find meaning in  liturgy, communal religious practice, sacred music, Christian identity/tradition, and overall just the general religious practice itself.

As someone interested in religion sociologically, I find this genuinely fascinating because it raises bigger questions about what Christianity fundamentally is.

So I’m curious what people here think:

1. Can Christianity still meaningfully exist without literal belief in God?
2. Do you think someone like Gretta Vosper still "Christian" in any meaningful sense?
3. Do you think ritual, liturgy, sacred music, and communal worship can be valuable independently of supernatural belief? Or does removing belief in God ultimately remove the foundation of Christianity itself?

Thoughts?

Hey yall, I feel like this game gets completely lost in the history of great playoff performances.

On April 30, 2007, in Game 4 of the Cavs/Wizards first round series, Zydrunas Ilgauskas put up:

20 PTS, 19 REB, 1 AST, and 2 BLKs on 9/16 FG (56.3%), 2/2 FT (100%)
59.2% TS, +12 in 40 MIN

This wasn't some empty-stat regular season game either. It was a series clinching playoff game, and Cleveland was playing on the road. Ilgauskas basically dominated the interior for 40 minutes and came one rebound shy of a 20/20 game.

Obviously, 20 points doesn't jump off the page compared to some of the legendary 40 and 50 point closeout performances. However, the combination of 20/19, 2 blocks, 56.3% shooting, perfect free throws, and +12 in a closeout game feels incredibly underappreciated.

Big Z was never going to get the same historical attention as LeBron, Duncan, Shaq, etc., but this was a heck of a playoff performance.

Enes "Freedom" Kanter's announcement that he wants to enter the 2027 WNBA Draft is obviously not a serious attempt to play in the league. It's a publicity stunt designed to mock transgender women and trans inclusion in women's sports. This is really simply "culture war" engagement bait.

Don't get me wrong, I think there are legitimate questions about competitive fairness and eligibility in women's sports that can be debated in good faith. However, Kanter isn't doing that. He's taking a tiny and highly politicized issue and turning trans people into the punchline of a joke. The political obsession with "trans women in sports" has become a convenient way to portray trans people as some kind of threat and build support for broader restrictions on their rights. Kanter is happily playing along because he knows it generates attention for him, a player with an otherwise unremarkable career.

What's especially funny is that Kanter's basketball resume isn't exactly the authority he seems to think it is. Yes, he was an NBA-caliber player, but let's put the career in perspective. Lou Williams was also a career bench player, and yet he had a vastly more impressive NBA career of 17 seasons, more than 15,000 points, and three Sixth Man of the Year awards. Kanter played 11 seasons, averaged 11.2 points and 7.8 rebounds, and never made an All-Star team or won a major individual award.

This comparison is not meant as a knock on Lou. He's one of the greatest sixth men in NBA history; however, It's just funny watching Kanter leverage his status as a "former NBA player", when he in reality is an actual bum on the court, and has many career bench players CLEARING his entire career.

If Kanter wants to have a serious discussion about women's sports, fine. But pretending to enter the WNBA so he can mock trans women isn't serious activism or sports analysis. It's just a former NBA role player trying to stay relevant by farming outrage.

Hey everyone, I recently watched Michael Jones of Inspiring Philosophy's video, "How Christianity Created Human Rights." So here's my view, I don't deny that Christianity played an important role in the history of human rights. Christians such as Martin Luther King Jr., Desmond Tutu, and many others made enormous contributions to advancing equality and justice.

However, I think the video severely overstates Christianity's role, especially considering Christianity has existed for only about 2,000 years and the development of human rights has been influenced by many different philosophical, religious, and secular traditions.

With that being said, the biggest issue I think conservative Christian apologists struggle to address is LGBTQ rights. When discussing marriage, the video talks about Christianity's influence on human dignity and marriage, but it seems to avoid the fact that legal recognition of same-sex relationships and marriage equality arose primarily through modern secular human rights movements, not through conservative Christian theology.

In fact, it should be noted that until this day LGBTQ marriage and even intimacy is illegal in most countries around the world, including most predominantly Christian countries (eg Uganda, Zambia, Malawi, Jamaica, Romania, Serbia, Moldova, etc.). This "Same-Sex Marriage Around the World" Pew Research Study explains this issue.

This creates what seems like a dilemma for conservative apologists:

1. If they acknowledge that LGBTQ rights are largely the product of secular human rights movements, then the claim that Christianity is the primary source of modern human rights becomes much more nuanced/in question.
2. If they argue Christianity itself laid the foundation for LGBTQ equality, they risk contradicting the traditional teachings on sexuality that many of their conservative audiences still hold.

To be clear, I'm not saying Christians have never contributed to expanding human rights. They clearly have, and many progressive Christians (as opposed to most theological conservatives) have been at the forefront of social justice movements (including LGBT rights).

My point is that modern human rights are the result of centuries of contributions from many different sources, such as Christian, Jewish, Enlightenment, liberal, secular, and others. LGBTQ equality, in particular, seems to be one of the clearest examples where secular human rights philosophy primarily led the way while many churches opposed it.

What are your views on this issue?

Also, for people like Inspiring Philosophy, and other conservative Christian apologist who hold this view, how could you remotely account for LGBTQ rights when making the argument that Christianity "created" human rights?

Hey everyone. I’ve been thinking recently about the growing number of rave/electronic music events being held inside churches and cathedrals, especially in places across Europe (eg. Manchester Cathedral in the UK).

Part of me finds the contrast fascinating when considering the ancient sacred architecture, stained glass, liturgical space; but combined with lights, electronic music, dancing, and communal nightlife.

I know some Christians would probably see this as disrespectful or as secular culture intruding into sacred space. However, I’ve also seen others argue that churches historically were often major communal gathering spaces for society, music, art, and shared experience, not only quiet worship spaces.

I’m also curious because, in a strange way, some rave environments seem to create communal feeling, emotional release, transcendence, and ritual like behavior, which almost parallels certain aspects of religious practice sociologically.

So I’m wondering:

1. What are your views on churches/cathedrals hosting rave events? Do you see it as neutral, disrespectful, or potentially even good?
2. Can sacred spaces be used for non-traditional forms of communal gathering without losing their sacred character?
3. And where do you personally draw the line between creative use of church space and de-sacralization?

Thoughts? Genuinely curious to hear both progressive and conservative Christian perspectives on this.

In November 1982, gospel singer Andraé Crouch was arrested after being stopped for erratic driving in Los Angeles. Deputies said they found a small amount of a substance they suspected was cocaine, and the story immediately became national news.

But here's the part that often gets forgotten: the Los Angeles County District Attorney ultimately declined to file charges, citing insufficient evidence.

Whether you believe Crouch's explanation or not isn't really the point. The point is how celebrity arrests were treated as entertainment and guilt was often assumed long before the legal process played out. A single arrest could generate sensational headlines across the country, while the lack of charges or later developments received little attention, or none at all.

It's a good example of a broader 1980s tabloid culture that normalized trying people in the court of public opinion. The accusation became the story. The outcome rarely did.

Looking back, it's kind of wild how acceptable that felt at the time.

Hey everyone, I recently watched Michael Jones of Inspiring Philosophy's video, "How Christianity Created Human Rights." So here's my view, I don't deny that Christianity played an important role in the history of human rights. Christians such as Martin Luther King Jr., Desmond Tutu, and many others made enormous contributions to advancing equality and justice.

However, I think the video severely overstates Christianity's role, especially considering Christianity has existed for only about 2,000 years and the development of human rights has been influenced by many different philosophical, religious, and secular traditions.

With that being said, the biggest issue I think conservative Christian apologists struggle to address is LGBTQ rights. When discussing marriage, the video talks about Christianity's influence on human dignity and marriage, but it seems to avoid the fact that legal recognition of same-sex relationships and marriage equality arose primarily through modern secular human rights movements, not through conservative Christian theology.

This creates what seems like a dilemma for conservative apologists:

1. If they acknowledge that LGBTQ rights are largely the product of secular human rights movements, then the claim that Christianity is the primary source of modern human rights becomes much more nuanced/in question.
2. If they argue Christianity itself laid the foundation for LGBTQ equality, they risk contradicting the traditional teachings on sexuality that many of their conservative audiences still hold.

To be clear, I'm not saying Christians have never contributed to expanding human rights. They clearly have, and many progressive Christians (as opposed to most theological conservatives) have been at the forefront of social justice movements (including LGBT rights).

My point is that modern human rights are the result of centuries of contributions from many different sources, such as Christian, Jewish, Enlightenment, liberal, secular, and others. LGBTQ equality, in particular, seems to be one of the clearest examples where secular human rights philosophy primarily led the way while many churches opposed it.

So that leads me to my general question: for people like Inspiring Philosophy, and other conservative Christian apologist who hold this view here, how could you remotely account for LGBTQ rights when making the argument that Christianity "created" human rights?

Hey everyone, I recently watched a YouTube Short where a creator reacted to an Anglican priest partnering with a sex shop to raise money for Planned Parenthood. The supposed "controversy" the video is addressing itself isn't my focus, but one claim caught my attention.

The Youtuber argued that the purpose of Christianity is to "challenge people to become more like God" (which is seemingly living according to 'theological conservatism'), implying that other approaches/purposes "miss the point."

That made me wonder, "does Christianity, or Religion actually have one singular purpose?"

For me, I fundamentally disagree with the idea that "Progressive Christianity" doesn't challenge its parishoners, as it usually challenges them to be good stewards of the earth, and to help the marginalized. That being said, it seems to me that many Christians have always found meaning in different aspects of the faith (i.e. multiple purposes in religion). For some, it's becoming more "Christ like" through spiritual formation. For others, it's serving the poor and marginalized, as mentioned earlier. In addition, others are drawn by liturgy, communal religious practice, sacred music, tradition, or simply the sense of community that church provides.

Different traditions also seem to emphasize different things:

1. Evangelicals often emphasize conversion and a personal relationship with Christ.
2. Catholics and Orthodox Christians emphasize sacramental and liturgical life.
3. Many Mainline Protestants place greater emphasis on social justice alongside worship and theology.

So I'm curious what Christians here think:

A. Does Christianity have one central purpose, with everything else being secondary? Or can Christianity legitimately serve multiple purposes, such as spiritual, moral, communal, liturgical, aesthetic, and charitable all at once?

B. If someone is primarily drawn to Christianity because of its worship, music, liturgy, rituals, or community, are they "missing the point", or are they simply experiencing a different dimension of the faith?

I'd love to hear perspectives from different denominations.

Hey everyone. I've noticed something interesting. Songs like "Wade in the Water", "Wayfaring Stranger", "I'll Fly Away", "Sometimes I Feel Like A Motherless Child", and "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" seem to be appreciated by a lot of people who aren't religious. You'll hear them in movies, TV shows, Americana, bluegrass, country, folk festivals, and performed by artists who don't usually/mainly sing Christian music like Bob Dylan, Richie Havens, Louis Armstrong, Johnny Cash, Stevie Wonder, and even P Diddy (in "I'll Be Missing You" he interpolates "I'll Fly Away").

By contrast, contemporary worship songs like "Holy Forever", "Goodness of God", "What a Beautiful Name", or "I Surrender" don't seem to have the same crossover appeal. Outside of church contexts, they don't appear to receive nearly the same level of appreciation.

Why do you think that is? Do you think it's an issue to do with musical style, cultural history, authenticity, nostalgia, or something else? I'd love to hear your views on this.

Hey everyone. Jordan Poole's time in Washington has made me think about a comparison that hasn't been made, but I originally expected to see more often. When Poole was traded from Golden State, there were a lot of people who thought he'd thrive with the ball in his hands. Kevin Garnett even said he could have a "James Harden in Houston" type of leap. I never expected that, but I did think Poole on his 2022 Championship run, and in the 23 regular season had the talent to become something closer to 2018 and 2019 Lou Williams on the Clippers. Essentially, I thought he would be a high volume microwave scorer and secondary playmaker who could carry an offense for stretches on the Wizards, and potentially be the ppg leader on a playoff team like 2019 Lou Williams.

Instead, that really hasn't happened. For reference these are 2018 Lou Williams vs. 2024 Jordan Poole stats.

My general question is: What prevented Poole from reaching even the Lou Williams level as a primary offensive guard?

Lou wasn't just scoring, he consistently created efficient offense as the Clippers' engine despite facing defenses keyed in on him. Poole has had similar freedom on the Wizards but hasn't produced at that level. What made the difference in this case?

Thoughts? Curious to hear from people who watched both players closely.

Hey everyone. I watched Danny Shelton's comments about La Sierra University and LGBT students, and one thing stood out immediately. Instead of Danny simply arguing that same-sex relationships are "sinful" (the traditional SDA position, but still problematic); he compares homosexuality to rape, child sexual abuse, and physical abuse as though they're morally equivalent.

That's an absurd and dehumanizing comparison. Being gay isn't remotely comparable to committing violent or coercive crimes against another person. However, Shelton can't seem to make that distinction. Everything gets lumped together under "sexual sin," so homosexuality ends up rhetorically adjacent to rape and child abuse.

Ironically, this is exactly the kind of rhetoric that highlights a seeming gap between mainstream Adventist institutions like La Sierra, and independent ministries like 3ABN (although both are still fundamentally problematic).

With all of that being said, this is insane work. I'm really hoping this man can lose his platform ASAP.

Hey everyone, I'm curious of your thoughts on this. By family friendly "third spaces," I mean places outside of home and work where people can spend time, socialize, relax, or just exist without it revolving around drinking or nightlife.

I'm thinking of places like cafes, libraries, parks, museums, community centers, hobby groups, and other welcoming spaces that are accessible to families and people of all ages.

It sometimes feels like a lot of social life in Manchester is centered around pubs, bars, clubs, and raves, which are definitely great if that's your thing, but I'm curious whether there are enough alternatives.

What do you think? Are there enough great family friendly third spaces in Manchester that people overlook? Or do you think the city needs more family friendly places?

Hey everyone. I've noticed something interesting. Songs like "Wade in the Water", "Wayfaring Stranger", "I'll Fly Away", and "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" seem to be appreciated by a lot of people who aren't religious. You'll hear them in movies, TV shows, Americana, bluegrass, country, folk festivals, and performed by artists who don't usually/mainly sing Christian music like Bob Dylan, Richie Havens, Louis Armstrong, Johnny Cash, Stevie Wonder, and even P Diddy (in "I'll Be Missing You" he interpolates "I'll Fly Away").

By contrast, contemporary worship songs like "Holy Forever", "Goodness of God", "What a Beautiful Name", or "I Surrender" don't seem to have the same crossover appeal. Outside of church contexts, they don't appear to receive nearly the same level of appreciation.

Why do you think that is? Do you think it's an issue to do with musical style, cultural history, authenticity, nostalgia, or something else? I'd love to hear your views on this.