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Christ and the Seal of God
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Christ and the Seal of God

The Seal of God: Christ-Centered and Spirit-Applied

 

“And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”Ephesians 4:30

Throughout Christian thought, few theological concepts have been as frequently misunderstood or misattributed as the "seal of God." Some argue that the seal is the observance of the Sabbath, others say speaking in tongues is the visible manifestation of God’s seal.  In either case the focus is on the weakness and fallibility of the human’s experience as the ultimate marker of God’s ownership. However, when we examine Scripture, we find that the seal of God does not rest in the weakness and defilement of our humanity; some badge of human religious compliance. Instead, it is a transcendent, preeminent reality rooted entirely in the eternal relationship between God the Father and God the Son, applied dynamically to believers by the Holy Spirit.

The Preeminence of Christ and the Divine Seal

To understand the nature of God’s seal, one must first look to the unique, unassailable relationship that exists between the Father and the Son. In biblical theology, an official seal represents absolute ownership, authentic authority, and an unshakeable covenant. While this seal ultimately guarantees the believer's security, its primary and pristine fulfillment is found in Christ alone, who stands as the preeminent God-Man and the Firstfruit of all creation.

The historic moment of this divine sealing occurred publicly at the baptism of Jesus in the Jordan River. In John 6:27, Jesus makes explicit reference to this event, instructing His followers to seek "the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval."

It was here, the Father’s relationship with the Son was visibly and audibly validated for humanity.  As Jesus emerged from the water, four distinct elements manifested the divine seal:

  • The Visible Anointing: The Holy Spirit descended in physical form like a dove and rested upon Christ (Matthew 3:16, Luke 3:22).  This was the visual impression of the divine seal, inaugurating His messianic mission.
  • The Audible Authorization: The Father’s voice declared from heaven, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased" (Matthew 3:17), validating Jesus as the divine Messiah just as a king's signet ring authenticates an official royal decree.
  • Empowerment for Ministry: The Holy Spirit "resting" (remain in John 1:32) on Christ signified a permanent abiding presence, empowering His earthly ministry, teaching, and sacrifice.
  • The Witness of the Forerunner: John the Baptist, divinely commissioned as the legal herald, witnessed this descent and boldly presented the sealed Messiah to the world, declaring, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!" (John 1:29).

John the Baptist’s Role: Identifying and Presenting Christ

John the Baptist was foretold in Isaiah 40:3 and Malachi 3:1 as the forerunner tasked with preparing the way for the Messiah. His divine mandate was not to exalt himself, but to recognize the seal and present the Messiah to Israel.

  • The Divine Sign Given to John: John did not rely on human intuition or family ties to identify the Messiah. God gave John a specific, infallible indicator to look for:

"I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, 'The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.'" John 1:33

  • The Public Identification and Witness: When John witnessed the Holy Spirit descend and abide upon Jesus, he knew the seal had been applied. He immediately fulfilled his duty as herald by giving eyewitness testimony:
  • Declaring His Identity: John declared, "I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God" (John 1:34).
  • Presenting His Purpose: Seeing Jesus walk toward him, John announced Him to the world: "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!" (John 1:29).
  • Directing Followers to Christ: John pointed his own disciples toward Jesus, willingly stepping back so Christ would take center stage: "He must become greater; I must become less" (John 3:30).

Through this sequence, the baptism served as the moment where God sealed His Son, and John the Baptist acted as the official legal witness presenting the sealed Messiah to humanity.

Christ as the Firstfruit and Fulfillment of the Seal

Because Jesus is the "Last Adam" (1 Corinthians 15:45) and the "Firstfruit" of God's redeemed creation (1 Corinthians 15:20), His sealing was not merely an isolated historical event; it was the prototype for all the redeemed children of the First Adam. God the Father placed His seal of approval upon Christ's sinless character and coming sacrifice (John 6:27), permanently validating His victorious work through the resurrection (Romans 8:11). Because the firstfruit contains the very nature of the entire crop, Christ being sealed guarantees that everyone who belongs to Him shares in that exact same Spirit and final destiny.

The Functional Flow of the Seal: From the Father and Son to the Believer

The seal of God is fundamentally a function of the relationship between God the Father and Jesus Christ, mediated and extended through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit acts as Christ's ongoing representative on earth (John 14:26, 15:26), bridging the gap between the objective, finished work of Christ in history and the subjective, experiential reality of the believer today.

This dynamic flows in a profound, two-fold progression:

  1. Positional Sealing ("In Christ"): Before a believer is ever born, their sealing is legally and spiritually established within the federal headship of Jesus Christ. Believers exist "in Christ" (Ephesians 1:3–4). When Christ was approved, sealed, crucified, and resurrected, He acted as the representative substitute for all who would believe. Just as humanity inherited condemnation in the first Adam, believers inherit justification and the divine seal in the Last Adam (Romans 5:17–19).
  2. Experiential Sealing (By the Spirit): What was established objectively in Christ is applied subjectively to the individual when they hear the gospel and believe. As Paul writes in Ephesians 1:13, "When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit." The same Spirit that rested permanently on Christ at the Jordan now indwells the believer, transforming their mind and conforming their character to Christ.

Conclusion: A Divine Act, Not a Human Achievement

Ultimately, the seal of God is entirely a divine work performed by God, not a human accomplishment by Sabbath-keeping or speaking in tongues.  It is a divine reality which exist first in Christ as the preeminent God-Man, then as a function of the presence of the Holy Spirit (who acts as Christ’s representative John 14:26; 15:26) in the life of the believer.

As 2 Corinthians 1:21–22 powerfully summarizes:

"Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come."

As it is with anything else we encounter in our "search" of the Scripture, we must train our mind's eye to see it as fulfilled first in Christ before we find any temporal meaning to apply to our earthly existence. By looking at the seal of God through the lens of Christ—first sealed as our representative at His baptism, and subsequently sealing us through the indwelling Holy Spirit upon belief—we find true security, authentic identity, and an unshakeable guarantee of our final redemption.

u/Believing-The-Report — 12 hours ago

Confession

I have a roommate and i bought barbecue for us both for dinner I didn’t knew she don’t eat pork and I have 1 pork barbecue mixed with other barbecue..

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u/chickenkatsuoo — 3 days ago
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Homeschool

So long story short we homeschool our kids and I’ve been looking for a group or co-op close to us to join. I found one that seems to be faith based but not linked to any one religion. We don’t have a church family and honestly the age group at the sda church closest to us is much older (40+) too so that wouldn’t be any help. This co-op group meets at a Lutheran church building and does open with prayer and has Bible reading, however they also do other educational and fun social activities for the kids. I feel so limited in options for things my kids can join so when I found this I was pretty excited. However then I started wondering if it would be weird to gather with others in a different church building even if it wasn’t for church service necessarily?

I know it’s good to gather together with others, especially reaching out to those not of the faith, however would it be conflicting to join this? I just wanted other people’s advice to get a different perspective on it.

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u/FriendshipSea7937 — 4 days ago

Who do you listen to for SDA hymns?

Hi everyone, I’m trying to learn the SDA hymns and really need some artists who actually sing them so I can get it right. Just the lyrics and audio aren’t enough for me unfortunately. So, who do you guys listen to? Doesn’t have to be just SDA hymns either, I’d love to find more Christian music!

Thank you all in advance!! ❤️🙏🏻

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u/HumanTangerine21 — 7 days ago

I hate everything about Adventism

This religion ruined my life. Led me down the wrong path, ruined my relationship with Jesus, made me fear God instead of recognize He is loving. It has lied to me (e.g. investigative judgement bs, Ellen white false prophecy, fake Sunday law, the additional 20 rules for sabbath keeping, Saturday being the day to attend church, denying women their femininity and making themselves feel beautiful like normal women, looking down on non-Adventist/adventist relationships as wrong, fear-mongering, the ignorance of the significance of Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross, the unbiblical rules against tattooing and jewelry, the modesty bs). I can’t believe I have grown up in a cult. I’m forced to practice this cult of a religion living with my parents due to financial constraints. I’m miserable everyday. I have no freedom, I can’t ever express my feelings or thoughts, I feel like I’m living in a cage and I must lie about everything in my life. My relationship with a non-Adventist Christian man is put on the line because of this insane religion.

I hope you all find the truth and step away from this lie, from this false prophet’s religion. I am sick of it.

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u/brownmooscles0609 — 8 days ago
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Actual photos of Ellen White

Why doesn't the sda use real photos of Ellen G. White? Why are they all edited and endowed with an angelic "beauty" when the reality is quite different?

That 1913 photo is the official face of the psycho-socio-religious depression that comes with following Adventism. If that weren't the case, it wouldn't be the religion that loses the most members to atheism and agnosticism (according to official data from the last General Conference). Am I wrong?

u/ZaechVM — 11 days ago
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Christ and the "cleansing of the Sanctuary"

Christ and the “cleansing of the sanctuary”

 

One of the ways we best express, grasp, and exalt the true preeminence of Christ, is when we realize that every Scriptural concept regarding salvation finds its first and highest fulfillment in Him. To view Christ's ministry merely as a service rendered to humanity misses the profound reality of the God-Man. When we reduce Him to a simple remedy for human sin, we make salvation or “eternal life”—rather than Christ—the center of Scripture (John 5:39).

Therefore, anyone of us, who—like Peter—confesses that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, must ask one fundamental question above all others as it relates to any doctrine: How is this truth fulfilled in Christ Himself? Our primary goal is not merely to validate whether a doctrine aligns with the “Law and Testimony” (Isaiah 8:20), but to see how it culminates in the Person of Jesus.

The subject of consideration here is no different. The concept that the biblical "cleansing of the sanctuary" found its ultimate, physical archetype and fulfillment in the person and body of Jesus Christ offers a profound theological harmony. By viewing Christ Himself as the true Temple (John 2:19–21), His physical frame becomes the site where sin was imputed, dealt with, and ultimately purged.

1. Christ’s Body as the Sanctuary and the Bearer of Imputed Sin

Throughout Scripture, the earthly tabernacle and temple were mere shadows of a greater reality (Matthew 12:6). When the Word became flesh, He "tabernacled" among us (John 1:14).

  • Imputation: On the cross, God "made him who had no sin to be sin for us" (2 Corinthians 5:21). The sins of humanity were legally and judicially imputed (charged) to Jesus.
  • The Defilement of the Substitute: In the Israelite ritual system, the sanctuary absorbed the symbolic defilement of the people's sins through the blood of the sacrifices or the high priest's ministry. In the grand antitype, Jesus Christ condensed the entire sanctuary system into His own person. His mortal body—weakened, subjected to human fragility, and loaded with the corporate guilt of a fallen race—became the locus of universal defilement.

2. The Changing of the Mortal Body as the "Cleansing"

Under the Old Covenant, the Day of Atonement demanded the cleansing of the sanctuary from the accumulated defilement of Israel. If Christ’s mortal body was treated as the ultimate defiled sanctuary bearing humanity's sin-debt, then its cleansing could not happen merely by a legal decree; it required a physical, ontological transformation.  Therefore:

  • Death as the Sentence, Resurrection as the Cleansing: The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). By dying, Christ exhausted the penalty of the sins imputed to Him. However, a dead sanctuary is a ruin.
  • The Glorified Body: When God raised Jesus and transformed His mortal, sin-bearing body into an imperishable, glorious, and immortal body, that transformation was the physical cleansing of the sanctuary. The traces of human sin, mortality, and weakness were permanently incinerated by the glory of the resurrection. The sanctuary was swept clean, vindicated, and perfected forever.

3. "Do Not Touch Me": Avoiding Human Soil Before the Father

This perspective sheds striking light on one of the most enigmatic post-resurrection encounters in the Gospels: Jesus’ words to Mary Magdalene in the garden:

"Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father" (John 20:17).

  • The High Priestly Typology: In the ancient Day of Atonement ritual, once the High Priest entered the Most Holy Place to cleanse the sanctuary, he could not be touched or defiled by common, unwashed human hands until his sacred duty before the mercy seat was completed.
  • Untainted by Earthly Soil: Having just undergone the ultimate cosmic transition from a sin-bearing mortal body to a newly cleansed, glorified divine-human template, Christ’s immediate priority was to present Himself unhindered and unblemished directly to His Father in the heavenly sanctuary. To be clutched or held by human hands on earth before that heavenly presentation would risk structural or symbolic contamination. He had to ascend first, present the pristine, freshly cleansed "firstfruits" of His new body to the Father, and ratify the complete atonement.

Once that heavenly validation was accomplished, He later invited His disciples to touch Him freely (Luke 24:39, John 20:27), proving that the sanctuary was fully cleansed, the transition was complete, and His glorified humanity was now an open, hallowed dwelling place for redeemed

 The “firstfuits” over the new creation.

The principle that Christ’s physical body served as the ultimate sanctuary requiring—and receiving—cleansing establishes a direct blueprint for His followers. Because Christ is the "firstfruits" of the resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:20), the exact sequence of events that happened to His body will happen to the bodies of His redeemed people at His coming.

1. The Believer’s Body as a Temple Needing Cleansing

Just as Christ’s mortal body bore the imputation of human sin and weakness, individual believers currently live in "lowly bodies" (Philippians 3:21) or "bodies of death" (Romans 7:24) that have been corrupted by the environment, genetics, and personal participation in the Fall.

·       While a Christian's spirit and legal standing are justified through faith, the physical body remains subject to decay, sickness, and death—the physical residue of sin's entry into the world.

  • Therefore, the physical frame of the believer awaits its own operational redemption (Romans 8:23). It is a temple that requires a final, radical purging from the footprint of mortality and corruption.

2. The Transformation at Christ’s Coming as the Cleansing

Just as the transformation of Christ's mortal frame into a glorified, immortal body constituted the cleansing of the ultimate sanctuary, the resurrection and transformation of believers at the Last Trumpet serves as their physical cleansing.

  • Corruptible to Incorruptible: Paul explains this transition in 1 Corinthians 15:53: "For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality."
  • Sweeping Away the Residue of Sin: At Christ's coming, the physical remnants of death and decay are completely eradicated from the believer's makeup. The transformation does not merely patch up the old model; it incinerates the "body of humiliation" and replaces it with a completely pure, holy, and glorified physical vessel. This is the ultimate, somatic cleansing of the church, presenting humanity holy and blameless before God (Ephesians 5:27).

3. Christ as the Firstfruits of the New Creation

In ancient agricultural Israel, the "firstfruits" were not just the first crops harvested; they were the legal guarantee and prototype of the entire harvest to follow.

  • Because Christ—the Head and Representative of the new humanity—underwent this physical transition from a sin-bearing, mortal body to a cleansed, glorified, immortal body, His resurrection guarantees the exact same harvest for His followers.
  • He went first into the heavenly realm as the newly cleansed Temple, and at His coming, He brings millions of "many brothers and sisters" (Romans 8:29) through the identical process

 By cleansing His own body through resurrection and glorification, Christ unlocked the template for a brand-new creation. When believers receive their glorified bodies at His return, they are simply partaking in the downstream reality of what was already accomplished in the person of Jesus Christ, the ultimate FirstFruits.

The Book of Revelations identifies the redeemed by a dual mark: they keep God's commandments and hold fast to the testimony of Jesus (Revelations 12:17). But this testimony is far more than an intellectual confession—it is the very fabric of their identity. In everything they do, they exist to exalt Jesus as the sole author and finisher of their salvation. He is the ultimate fulfillment of every hope, and His preeminence is visibly borne in their very bodies.

 The Ultimate Focus: From the Shadow of Sin to the Substance of Christ

For too long, the theological paradigm of the Church has inadvertently made the "nature of sin" and its remedy—eternal life—the primary platform of our doctrinal foundation. This blight has corrupted the focus of mankind from the very beginning.  We see it in fallen Adam; in the nation of Israel; in the Jews of Jesus’ day; in His Church; in the remnant; and even in our individual lives.  We have trained our hearts to find solace and meaning in temporal aides and shadows—the earthly temple, the Sabbath, the Law, judgment, sacrifices, prophecies, etc.—rather than in the Person who gave them life and meaning. We have foolishly chosen to glorify the problem and its mechanics rather than the God-Man who overcame it.

But the mystery of redemption was never merely about highlighting a corruption that existed outside of man, introduced to us through the serpent in the garden. It was about demonstrating the staggering lengths to which the Sovereign Creator was willing to go to bring fallen humanity back to Himself.

The time has come for us to look past the machinery of salvation and fix our gaze entirely on the Architect. When we study the cleansing of the sanctuary, the types and shadows of the Old Covenant, or the promise of our own bodily redemption, the ultimate goal is not to idolize the concept of "eternal life." It is to exalt Jesus Christ in His physical body—as the true Temple, the cleansed Firstfruits, and the sole meaning and fulfillment of all Scripture. He is not merely the remedy; He is the meaning—the God-Man Christ!

“See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.” Colossians 2:8-10

u/Believing-The-Report — 7 days ago

Update: VennLove

Hello it’s me again,

I’ve been going through the process and wished to keep those who asked updated. So far the application process went smoothly and their team is very nice! They do ask for a lot of information (birth order, amount of siblings, pastoral reference, etc) but it is all in strict confidence and they schedule you for an interview to put a face to the name and info after it’s all been vetted. They do intend to match others but they do not offer a match unless both parties (I.e me and the man) agree that they would like to talk to the other person, then contact information is given. They are very by the book looking for Adventist matches, which is a better experience to the previous dating apps that are very hit or miss. The process for them finding matches have begun however there is a higher amount of women than men so I was told the process could take longer. But so far they are very kind and take a prayerful attitude to the whole thing and I enjoy that! I’m looking forward to seeing what may come, maybe this will help someone who is in a similar situation to mine. All this to say prayerfully consider this!

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u/cam_the_artist — 9 days ago

Why do some look down at waiting until a certain age to get married

My significant other and I gets questions asked about when we will get married, since other young adults who have been together less than us are already getting married or engaged.

We dont really see the need to get married until we are in our 30s. Sometimes when we say that we get a weird look. We also dont want kids so theres no biological time clock we are racing against.

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u/ahhnotmycabbages — 9 days ago

I need prayers, I'm really struggling

Hello guys, I wanted to share something and be totally vulnerable because I feel like I've lost my way, and no one in my family or life knows. I would hate for this struggle to be the reason I lose my life in enteral life.

To start, I have an awesome family and very good parents. They are all Adventist and are not the cause of this by any means. From a very young age, I got curious and fell into a habit of visiting bad websites. I used to just view things and leave without doing anything because I was a kid and didn't really understand, but I knew it was taboo. It was mostly off and on, especially during summer vacations when there was no school.

As the years passed, I saw a video online explaining that engaging with this kind of content or giving into those temptations was a sin. I got really scared because I hadn't realized the severity of it, so I asked God for forgiveness and stopped. I stayed away from it for years and even forgot about it. But eventually, I randomly fell back into it, though not as often at first.

For a while, I thought I had strong self-control because I could stop for long periods. I took that for granted. Before each new school year, I would make a promise to God to abstain for the entire year, and I was able to keep those promises for a long time.

However, over the last two years—starting around my 3rd year of high school—things changed. I broke a promise just days before it was set to end, and since that day, I’ve had a really hard time keeping my word. I keep slipping back into this habit daily, and it has gotten out of hand. I really need help. I haven't told my family because I worry about disappointing them, but I'm reaching out here because I don't want to compromise my spiritual journey over this. I asked my sibling to pray for me generally, but I haven't shared the details with anyone.

It really hit me this morning and I felt scared and overwhelmed. I know how harmful this habit is and I feel terrible about it. I feel isolated because no one who knows me would ever suspect I am dealing with this deep down.

I am sincerely asking for your prayers. Thank you for reading and for providing a space to share. May God bless you and your family.

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u/Plus_Collection_4218 — 9 days ago

Is it okay to use my tithe and offerings to help people who are in greater need than the church?

I understand that, as Adventists, we return to God what belongs to Him through our tithe, and we give offerings as a way of expressing our gratitude to Him and acknowledging that everything we have comes from Him.

What has been troubling me, though, is the way tithes and offerings are currently being managed. At times, it seems to me that more of the focus is on supporting the church as an institution or organization, rather than helping people who have nothing to eat or nowhere to live—people who are also candidates for the Kingdom of Heaven and who need to hear about Jesus in the midst of their struggles and hardships.

In light of the Bible, would it be acceptable—and perhaps even more appropriate under these circumstances—to use my tithe and offerings to help people who are truly in need?

I would really appreciate your thoughts and insights on this.

God bless you all, brothers and sisters in Christ

(Originally, I wrote this in Spanish and translated it after to English)

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u/East-String-7315 — 11 days ago

Why are Adventist figures being silent about things like flock cameras and palantir?

For as long as I've been an Adventist I've heard endless warnings and sermons about the mark of the beast, the tribulation, forced Sunday worship and everything of the like, and now that the actual tools that would be needed to bring about these things are being installed I haven't heard a single Adventist figure talk about it, we are the people who should be sounding the alarm more than anybody, and nothing, I I've been expecting a Doug bachelor sermon on how this stuff is all unfolding to fulfill prophecy but nothing, and none of the Adventists I listen to are talking about this. I'm disappointed at how asleep we seen to be right now, if anyone has a good sermon on this, share the link!

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u/TrevCat666 — 13 days ago

The video is about Dr. Conrad Vines' sermon on tithes and about tithes and what a very important figure in the Church has to say about this tithe issue and what Roger Morneau, an ex-spiritist turned SDA who used to worship Satan and his angels, has revealed related to Satan's plans and how this conn

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u/CrystalisP — 11 days ago

Marriage Advice

I and my wife are both Christians and have been for most of our lives. I recently started attending SDA services, not consistently every Sabbath but on and off. It’s been that way mostly because she does not want me to be an SDA as she staunchly believes it’s a cultish very legalistic church.

It can tell when I ask her if I can go it bothers her so eventually this will wash over into our marriage if it hasn’t quietly already.

How should I navigate this situation?

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u/Future_Serve_9504 — 12 days ago

I dont care anymore

I went through a Job experience recently where everything was falling apart; my health, mental stability, work, relationships etc…

Now im getting out of the hole, yet it seems like God has put me in such situations that have just made me grow to hate him, now i simply dont care about sin

I have prayed because i WANT to CARE but i simply not. And seems like God either does not answer or answer partially

I have gotten into pretty bad relationships with friends and a bunch of secular and worldly noise, but i cant care enough to get out of there

So i dont know if anyone has gone through something similar

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u/DeliciousFlatworm835 — 12 days ago

need to make a decision.

So I accidentally put on an old picture that I took last year for my second application for the civil service exam a few months ago when the rule stated that it should be taken within the last three (3) months prior to filing of application, but the second time I applied again, they accepted it due to the fact that they don't know that it was my picture last year for my civil service exam application that happened last November and my first take of the exam was taken on March 08, 2026, and my retake of that exam is tomorrow. 😅

And I don't feel good at all, having just read the instruction last Friday, and my conscience bothers me, so I should not go, right?

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u/CrystalisP — 12 days ago