u/brownmooscles0609

Did any of yall grow up being taught the casino is sinful and gambling or playing certain card games is bad? If that’s a common sda belief, did EGW counsel against that specific thing?

For some context, I'm 22, living at home right now, and my sibling is 18. We both are at home, I work remotely and she is in college now. I have my own schedule because I work, my mom does not work and neither does my sister. I grew up SDA but I have left the religion and identify as a Christian just like the rest of you here. I left Adventism because of the false doctrines and unbiblical teachings, and I am rediscovering the true gospel today.

I am quite busy with work during the day despite being remote. Yes, my schedule is more flexible given that I'm not bound to an office environment, but that means I create a schedule for myself. I have 20-30mins every morning of my own devotion/worship. During this time I pray and study a chapter of the Bible. This time of my day is very renewing and has brought me closer to Jesus, teaching me more of the gospel and true Christianity. I also like to read a little bit of my Bible before bed and pray. I spend this time with Jesus twice everyday and it's one of my favorite times of the day.

But every day my mom wants my sister and I to sit in the living room with her and have worship time. We pray, sing a hymn, and either read a paragraph from a devotional or the Bible. She will discuss the passage a little bit, but then she will go on a tangent about something else not related to what we read. She will talk about real life events we have gone thru, and I guess it is a time for her to connect with us and talk to us about God. But she will throw in a lot of her Adventist beliefs, which I don't align with anymore. It can be hard when she adds in those things because I have to pick and choose what to believe from her and what not to believe. The focus of the conversations isn't entirely on God also.

I just feel like a lot of times it takes up the time I spend working. I have my own times with God and I'm an adult now, responsible for my own faith. I understand she wants us to remain close to God, but things have changed. Its not that I dont want to have worship sessions with her in the morning, its just that I dont have time for it anymore. To tell her I dont have time will hurt her and make her think that I don't care for God's things when thats not even true. She believes me having my own devotion time which is not a quick thing is not enough. When we dont have the worship time, she thinks we are straying from God and that we will not be blessed because of that. My dad doesnt even join because he is working upstairs (remote). In the evenings sometimes we have family prayer and discussion time, I think thats normal. But its different in the morning, when everyone has their own daily tasks/work/school and what not.

My bf (25) and I (21F) have been together since January 2023. We’re both Christian but he is going thru a lot in his life. He has worked so hard to make it somewhere in life, for over 6yrs. He got a job after a year of searching after getting his masters in cyber. He studied so hard all of his life even before college and grad school. Worked hard on certifications, applied to hundreds of jobs, and he’s given up having a life to dedicate himself even more to getting a job. His current job doesn’t pay much he says and it is not in his field at all, the field he worked so hard to make it in. He sees everyone surpassing him when they haven’t even worked as hard as he has. It’s too late for him to join the military he says, that’s not an option for certain reasons now. His home life is terrible. He lives with his parents because he couldn’t afford to live on his own given how bad the economy is, so his parents have lots of issues. They fight so bad, fight with him and give him issues everyday, the whole environment is so stressful and toxic for him. I feel so sorry for him and there is nothing I can do to help. I can’t move out i don’t have a job yet, I just finished college so we can’t ever move in together till years from now because we also want to be financially stable. He can’t afford to take me out much right now till he gets a better job, can’t afford a car, it’s so much and everything in his life is a mess.

All of this just makes me so stressed and depressed even though I’m not going thru it. It still affects me, it makes me feel sad and hopeless for him. I can’t do anything to help except be his gf and do what I can do best by being his gf. I can’t solve the problems in his household, I can’t get him a good cyber/tech job, I can’t do any of that. He has no friends, he’s lonely except for having me, he takes care of his parents and does everything for them despite them treating him poorly and arguing with him. He has dealt with this all of his life and it gets worse and worse everyday for him.

He doesn’t want to vent to me but I want him to because I want him to feel he has a safe space to talk to me and express his concerns and thoughts. I want a safe place in him so I want to give that back to him because I love him. I don’t ever doubt his love also, he hasn’t given me reason to question it and I love him so much. What we have is so good. It’s just that all of this brings me down so much. He’s told me multiple times he is depressed and that if I wasn’t here he would’ve been gone a while ago because he has nothing to live for but me.

When he starts venting about these things I feel so down, i’ll be having a good day and feeling happy then he tells me how depressed he is feeling and it brings me down so much. I feel weird talking about myself sometimes or my own problems despite him telling me I can always vent to him. I just feel weird because what if he thinks I’m silly for getting upset or sad about something when he deals with way more. My family life is different and not difficult so I don’t go thru anything he does. I try my best to understand what he goes thru, I always try to consider his life when I say certain things but man is it hard sometimes or what.

There are some mornings I wake up with a heavy heart for him and I can’t get out of bed, or it’s just hard to be truly happy. I see other couples who are happy and I’m like how does that feel, they must not deal with depression. I feel like sometimes I never felt depression till I started dating him. I love him to death I will never let him go, but it brings me down so bad.

I feel so mentally drained sometimes and I don’t know what to say when he tells me something about his life about the depression/bad circumstances. I end up giving him the same solution and it does nothing, he just says he understands and that’s it. I tried to come up with other solutions for his job issues, they won’t work, it’s so hopeless and depressing for me man. If he can get a better job, things will be better overall because we can’t change his parents till we move on together in the future. I just need him to get over this hump in his life, because every week I feel exhausted to some degree and I can never ever let him know that. It will kill him to know he puts me thru that and makes me feel this way, and it would be selfish of me also to take the ability to vent away from me.

This religion ruined my life. Led me down the wrong path, ruined my relationship with Jesus, made me fear God instead of recognize He is loving. It has lied to me (e.g. investigative judgement bs, Ellen white false prophecy, fake Sunday law, the additional 20 rules for sabbath keeping, Saturday being the day to attend church, denying women their femininity and making themselves feel beautiful like normal women, looking down on non-Adventist/adventist relationships as wrong, fear-mongering, the ignorance of the significance of Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross, the unbiblical rules against tattooing and jewelry, the modesty bs). I can’t believe I have grown up in a cult. I’m forced to practice this cult of a religion living with my parents due to financial constraints. I’m miserable everyday. I have no freedom, I can’t ever express my feelings or thoughts, I feel like I’m living in a cage and I must lie about everything in my life. My relationship with a non-Adventist Christian man is put on the line because of this insane religion.

I hope you all find the truth and step away from this lie, from this false prophet’s religion. I am sick of it.

So long story short, due to being fresh out of college and not having a stable job yet or stable income I still live at home with my parents and I would stay here for as long as I need to while I work to build a career and on my finances till I get married in the next few years. So part of living at home, I have to abide by their Adventist rules and lifestyle. I’m expected to attend church and go to certain sda things with them since they know my schedule. I’m not able to go visit a friend this coming week, I don’t have many friends at all and I don’t have my own car yet so I can’t just take my own car and go wherever.

This coming week they are planning to go to west Salem missions camp meeting in Ohio. We’re going for the entire thing, and they’re Amish who converted to Adventism but they still dress Amish. They’re super strict sdas, heavy into egw, all of that bs. I already feel so miserable knowing I have to attend all of this. My period starts that week as well, I’m in my luteal phase too and feel like absolute crap. I have a small part time remote job but they still want me to go to evening sessions there. I’m so cooked. What should I do? How can I survive this coming week? I feel so much anger and dread already. My parents are gonna push me to make friends and they don’t know I’m not Adventist or that I’m against it. I have to put on an act for them to show I’m supportive of it and an avid sda, or it will raise suspicions and issues for me. What is your best advice?

My bf and I have been ldr for 3yrs now. I send him selfies every day on snap as does he. He saves the ones with my face in it and hypes me up like says I’m gorgeous and beautiful and all, I love him he makes me feel so pretty everyday. But I like to send him pics of my body. Not nudes, but pics of myself at the gym (I’m a gym girl, been bodybuilding for a bit). I’ll purposely send selfies of me with a lot of cleavage for his enjoyment bc I like doing that for my man. I send him full body pics of my outfits and if it shows off my curves and all. He compliments and he says he means it but he never saves it. I feel bad like he’s not entirely interested in me. He says he wants to be respectful and he feels uncomfy saving body pics of me. He doesn’t watch porn or look at women online ik that for a fact. He’s super loyal to me, he says he enjoys my pics but never saves them except normal selfies without cleavage.

I talked to him about it and after expressing how I feel about it he still refuses to save those types of pics of me. I can’t help but feel very upset towards him, I feel like I should just stop sending him body pics period and just post them on instagram for everyone else since he doesn’t care enough to keep it.

I told him it’s like me giving him a gift and he says oh it’s so nice I love it thank you, and then leaves it somewhere and goes on with his day.

When I was about 7yrs old, I would miss my grandpa a lot and fear for his safety. He was a very healthy and active man, but I would always be afraid of anything happening to him. I had this bond with him that was not like my bond with my other grandpa.

One night I was crying because I missed him a lot. I fell asleep and dreamt that he was attacked by someone and died. To dispose of his body, someone took a chainsaw and started cutting up his body, removing parts and what not. I was so freaked out by this when I woke up that I never forgot the dream.

10 years later, he moved to FL to be with his wife (not my grandma). This woman was money hungry and didn’t care about him much. 3 months after he moved, we found out he had passed away. It was so sudden given that he was a healthy man.

We soon realized all the signs pointed to a murder—poisoning. We all knew his wife did it to him but the police or the hospital would not further investigate given that he was older. 3 weeks after his death, we received his death certificate and noticed he was donated to science.

His wife donated his body to them, without our knowledge, and this place does inhumane processes to bodies. He was cut up.

It was only till a year ago I realized that my childhood dream and what happened to him were both the same. This haunts me till this day, I’m so afraid of dreaming of any other loved one dying.

I was raised in a conservative Adventist home all my 22 yrs of life. I still live at home due to financial circumstances and being a student. 2yrs ago I left the SDA church after finding out their doctrines and their prophet, Ellen G White, are false and contrary to the Bible. I don’t know much about Catholicism only a little bit at the surface. But if anyone here has knowledge about Adventists or has read their age old book called The Great Controversy, what is your opinion on the religion?

I believe it is a cult, as someone who came out of it and woke up. The fact that they hold up an ordinary woman from the 1800s to the same level as God, proves that point. The “religion” shapes the Catholic Church as an enemy or an alliance with the devil. Sorry to use harsh wording but I’m not even exaggerating. I grew up believing the Catholic Church would persecute me one day for being Adventist till I found out their beliefs are false.

This question has been bothering me all week. Last week I went to church since I'm home with the family. The sermon was whatever but one of the scriptures from it has been stuck in my head. Growing up I was taught to memorize Exodus 20:8-11, I know it like the back of my hand. But last week the pastor read the sabbath commandment in Exodus 31:13-17:

^(13) Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.

^(14) Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

^(15) Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

^(16) Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

^(17) It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Now I didn't know that the sabbath commandment was said more than once. But the reason I was perplexed is that the pastor very obviously read only the first half of the verses. Like, if I wasn't following along in my bible I wouldn't have seen the part about being put to death if you don't keep it.

The question I was left with is this: if the Sabbath is supposed to be kept, why aren't we keeping it that way? Like I was taught all the laws about stoning people and stuff were old laws of Moses that we don't need to keep anymore. But if the sabbath isn't one of those laws, then why aren't we putting people to death for working on the sabbath? Obviously, that's not the right thing to do, but I'm interested in know what the Adventist justification is of how the sabbath is to be kept. Is there a later verse that says that people don't need to be killed anymore? When did they stop killing people for keeping the sabbath?

My sister and I turned on Twilight while my parents were at the gym. Both of us are adults and we never watched it growing up. Honestly some of the acting is cringe, kinda reminds me of the exaggerated expressions you see on Disney channel movies lol, but it’s great!

My parents came back from the gym while we were watching the movie and my mom was making lunch while we played the movie. She overheard them mentioning vampires and she was like you’re watching a movie about vampires? And I said the stupidest thing, thinking she didn’t know what twilight is, and told her the movie title. She got disturbed by that and said that’s not right to watch. She kept giving us a disapproving look and finally told us to turn it off. Later says it’s satanic and says if we watch that in this house we will be desensitized to things that are bad.

Because of a few vampires that makes a movie satanic? We have watched things with worse stuff, bloody and gory full of fantasy creatures. Sometimes she’ll get a random conviction, and as it is both of my parents are crazy about Adventism, repeatedly quoting EGW to us.

I watch whatever I want on my own, they would flip out to know shows I’ve watched recently lol.

I was reading another post on here about Adam and Eve’s height that EGW claimed to be true with no backing evidence whatsoever. It made me realize this whole time I have been thinking her description of the serpent was also another false idea ingrained into my mind as a result of Adventist lies. She said:

“The serpent was then one of the wisest and most beautiful creatures on the earth. It had wings, and while flying through the air presented an appearance of dazzling brightness, having the color and brilliancy of burnished gold.” From Patriarchs and Prophets

The only description the Bible gives of this is that it was cunning and deceptive and later on we can conclude that it has wings or legs or some other mechanism that allowed it to move above the ground, since God cursed it to crawl on its belly. I’ve researched it a bit to find any believable evidence that the serpent could remotely fit EGWs description and you will find none.

I wish my mind wasn’t poisoned by their nonsense, it just gives me false ideas about the Bible and makes me sound like a lunatic if I were to say it to someone who never grew up SDA!

Did anyone else here grow up being told that Daniel and his friends were vegans that’s why they didn’t eat the king’s food? I was told that they were vegan like me (how I was raised to eat, that is) and that’s why they looked healthier because of veganism. Little did I know that they refused his food because it was unclean meat that Jews didn’t eat lol.

My dad is struggling with gout, he’s been bed ridden for 2 weeks and family and I have been fervently praying every day. Well my mom quoted to me Psalms 103:3 which says “Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases.” And also the 3 instances recorded in Matthew, Mark, and Luke where Jesus forgives the paralytic of his sin before healing him. She said that Psalms puts forgiveness before healing, meaning we must be cleansed of our sins first before we want to be healed. She then proceeded to say that if we are praying for healing for another person, God can’t answer our prayer if we have unconfessed sins when we come before Him with our request. She started confessing her sins, and my dad is confessing his sins while he is in bed so he can receive healing.

Someone tell me if this concept is accurate or not?

For the past two weeks my dad has not been well. He has severe gout and was on prednisone and naproxen to deal with the pain, so that it could be at a manageable level. For the past 18yrs he’s been dealing with this condition. Two weeks ago he had a GI bleed from the pain meds and was in the hospital to get a blood transfusion, since then his gout has been terrible. He barely could walk and now he is bed ridden again because of the pain. Please please lift him up in prayer, pray for his healing and relief of this pain so he can be back on his feet! Claim Gods promises!

This weekend I started reading Galatians, as I've just finished Matthew. Galatians has me saying AMEN!! through every chapter! This morning I was reading Galatians 3 and came across verse 13: "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law". I did a quick google search to break down what this meant. Was Paul calling the law itself a curse or is there a "curse of the law".

Sure enough, I was pointed to Deuteronomy 21:22 which states: "And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree." Well then you go onto verse 23: "His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed to God;) that thy land be no defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance". Hm, does that sound a little bit familiar?

Lets jump up to verse 19 which says: "Then shall his father and mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of the city, and unto the gate of his place".

The title of this section (verse 18-23) is called "A Stubborn Son Shall Be Stoned to Death", so you may not think much of it just glancing over and reading the title. But notice this is talking about a son, committing a sin worthy of death, and being hung on a tree and buried for this crime.

Jesus. the Son of God, was a spotless Lamb, the just as the Israelites used to offer as a sacrifice before the plan of salvation was fulfilled. He committed no sin worthy of death, but he was falsely accused of blasphemy, a sin worthy of death in those times. He was taken before the elders of the city, or the Sadducees and Pharisees, and tried (21:19). He was hung on a cross, made from a tree (21:22) and they did not leave Him hanging on the cross all night. He was taken down several hours later and buried in a tomb (21:23).

Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22 also predict how Jesus will be sacrificed for us. Now of course the plan of salvation was already laid out before the Law was written. God knows the end from the beginning, He says He already knows the plans for us in Jeremiah 29:11. But I feel like this may be a huge reason why Jesus was required to be crucified in order to save us and fulfill the law.

Maybe a lot of you guys here already knew about this, but I got so excited and just amazed when I found this connection! If you guys know of any more verses talking about this, specifically in the OT, please add it here!

I recently read a post on here mentioning Dr. Clinton Baldwin. I never knew about him till reading how he challenged Adventist theology and proved how Christ fulfilled the Sabbath as well as the law.

I’ve been researching this and I would love to read up about his findings on this. Do you guys know where I can find his stuff. Also if there’s anyone here who is still a Christian, could you point me to how Jesus fulfilled the law through his death. I believe He did but I want proof for a debate to back up my research more!

Would love to know yalls thoughts on this! I’ve left Adventism now for many reasons including the misalignment of scriptures and the denomination’s teachings (deeply rooted in EGW’s teachings). Still a believer of Christ.

I found this online: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day\_Adventist\_Church\_in\_Germany

I agree it was a strategic plan for the church to essentially support Nazism to help it survive but imagine siding with evil to preserve your church. Imagine praising leaders simply because they seem to follow the eating habits your denomination promotes! I wonder if this could ever happen again? History always repeats itself as they say.

Could Adventist leaders side with an evil or destructive government one day to preserve their church, possibly from the supposed “Sunday law” that is believed to occur one day? Who knows.

It also intrigues me how a nation who is now aligning with a Jewish nation is supposed to be the leader in this so called Sunday law movement? Thats just me thinking though.