Who's better for Phrolova: Lucilla or Qiuyuan?

I currently have Phrolova s0r1, and don't plan to invest in her vertically. I don't have any of her teammates, so uhh, yea, who's the better option. I'm planning to get s0r0 of either of em, and both if I have enough pulls.

After reading both of their kits, these are the pros and cons of both characters, and what buffs they provide

Lucilla:

Grants 25% echo skill dmg bonus for 30s, 50% echo skill dmg amplification for 14s

Qiuyuan:

Grants 30% echo skill dmg bonus for 30s, 50% echo skill dmg amplification for 14s

Lucilla pros:

Like the design

Not easily interrupted, so rotation won't be prolonged

Lucilla cons:

Don't have a decent weapon for her

Can't take advantage of Phrolova's outro buff

Gives less buffs than qiuyuan, although the difference is almost miniscule

Qiuyuan pros:

Have a decent weapon for him (eog)

Can do his enhanced attacks twice if playing with verina, which increases overall damage

Can take advantage of Phrolova's outro buff

Gives more echo dmg buffs than Lucilla

Qiuyuan cons:

Don't like his design much

Prone to interruption, which prolongs the rotation

Ik I answered my own question, but I also wanna know ur opinion, and if possible, some other tips and things I missed, if any. That's all! Thank u

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u/LollipopLemon93 — 2 days ago

Who's better for Phrolova: Qiuyuan or Lucilla?

After reading both of their kits, these are the pros and cons of both characters, and what buffs they provide

Lucilla:

Grants 25% echo skill dmg bonus for 30s, 50% echo skill dmg amplification for 14s

Qiuyuan:

Grants 30% echo skill dmg bonus for 30s, 50% echo skill dmg amplification for 14s

Lucilla pros:

Like the design

Not easily interrupted, so rotation won't be prolonged

Lucilla cons:

Don't have a decent weapon for her

Can't take advantage of Phrolova's outro buff

Gives less buffs than qiuyuan, although the difference is almost miniscule

Qiuyuan pros:

Have a decent weapon for him (eog)

Can do his enhanced attacks twice if playing with verina, which increases overall damage

Can take advantage of Phrolova's outro buff

Gives more echo dmg buffs than Lucilla

Qiuyuan cons:

Don't like his design much

Prone to interruption, which prolongs the rotation

Ik I answered my own question, but I also wanna know ur opinion, and if possible, some other tips and things I missed, if any. That's all! Thank u

(Pic for attention. I drew it)

u/LollipopLemon93 — 2 days ago

Does any of ur chats get deleted suddenly?

I can't tell if it's a bug on my end, but I remember doing this rp about 10 months ago (pretty angst iirc), and I decided to revisit the same bot and read the chat again, y'know, for reminiscing.

I booted the website (yes, that's what I use), and saw that the bot I chatted with was still on the list. Perfect. I clicked on it, only to realize that half of the chat was gone... Just, wiped out... I was like... huh...?

I remember reading the same chat over and over at least twice before now... Wtf happened...? Has this ever happened to y'all as well? Lemme know, coz that chat is so precious to me, considering the fact that now it'll never be the same

(Pic for attention. I made it lol)

u/LollipopLemon93 — 2 days ago

Who should I really prioritize?

Soo the image shows the characters I own, and the characters in planning to get in the future. Now, I'm an f2p, so there's absolutely no way I could afford every single character in my wishlist, unless I'm extremely lucky. I currently have 32k+ astrites saved up rn, which will definitely go up if I plan to save. Btw, I'm also planning to pull jingran, but his image was unfortunately not there, so just gave y'all a heads up.

I wanna make Phrolova stronger by getting Lucilla and qiuyuan, because she's my all time favorite character, but there are also characters which are a must pull, at least for me, like shorekeeper. I also need ciaccona for cart, Iuno for jingran, and suisui for yangyang (I lost the 5050 on her current banner, and I'm saving for jingran).

Who do u think I should get, and get rid of? Lemme know in the comments. I need to plan carefully coz I can't get everyone. That's all!

u/LollipopLemon93 — 5 days ago
▲ 54 r/ScarMainsWW+1 crossposts

The reason why I think Scar ain't appearing in the story (MAJOR COPE WARNING, or whatever lol)

Soo I've been thinking about this topic lately, and since I already described it once on discord, I'll describe it here. Instead of whining when our boi didn't show up in the story for the 69420th time, why not take our time and think WHY he didn't show up. I believe this should apply to other characters who have been absent from the story for a long time as well, like Geshu Lin, but we're only focusing on Scar in this post.

It was, and still is, clear that the devs have a specific roadmap planned out for him, since he's the first ever fractsidus member we were ever introduced to. I mean, he's literally the reason why we got to know the fractsidus at all, and also the first time when rover started questioning whether those they trusted were actually trustworthy or not (idk if anyone even remembers this lmao). We all thought that slowly but surely, we'd get a better insight of his backstory, and that he'd surely become playable at one point (I remember when people thought he was coming in 1.3, then Phorlova in 1.4 or smth. ahh those were the days)

Anyways, but hold and behold, he did NOT become playable, neither did he get ANY meaningful story relevance after 1.x except being the fractsidus's uber driver lmao. Ok I understood that kuro wanted to give Phrolova and Cristoforo the spotlight during rinascita arc, but what about now? We're currently in huanglong, and I believe this was the perfect time to make Scar relevant. Based on what we know, he has, or had, some kinda connection with Qichi village, aka where we first met him, which is in HUANGLONG. Perfect timing.... Also a huge missed opportunity to make him playable...

Now here's why I think he ain't in the quest rn, and I think anyone who's a writer can relate. I'm a writer myself; not an official one, I just write sometimes for fun. So when a writer decides to write a story, they think of the plot, characters, and the execution (the most crucial part), and start writing. They think they have a clear roadmap as to how the story will begin, go on, and end. But as the story progresses, new ideas start popping in the writer's mind, ones they haven't thought of before. Once that happens, they add it, but it has to make sense, aka mesh with their previous writing, so the writer has to make a choice: continue writing and get rid of the new ideas, or insert the new ideas and write from there, which means leaving the original roadmap behind.

For kuro, it's definitely the latter. I think that during CBT1, kuro already had a story planned out, I mean the intro to the game, and intended to write from there. But due to angry CN fans who complained about the story being "too dark", they had to rewrite the whole thing again, which meant so many ideas had to be tossed aside so the story won't end up being messy. I remember how different Scar was in CBT1: more psychotic, relevant, even encore's BROTHER. There was also a point when we thought that the little girl Scar talked about in 1.0 act 3 quest was actually encore, but boi were we wrong....

Due to the massive overhaul of the story, at that point kuro had no original plan. They had to restart, and as they continued, new ideas kept popping in their head, which meant they had to set their old ideas aside to put the new ones in. I feel like after 1.x, they had absolutely no idea how to include Scar in the story and give him any real relevance, without it looking out of place. And due to their new ideas, they basically had to scrape Scar's character off, which unfortunately, made him into the fraud we know today.... I'll never forgive kuro for massacring our boi like this... And now, they have no idea what to do with him...

Here's hoping that he becomes relevant, AND PLAYABLE, in 4.x, but idk man... I'm starting to lose hope... CN fans absolutely hate him, and the entire community put him on fraud watch (I can actually understand why tho), so I think kuro WILL make him relevant, but... kill him off afterwards, so no more Scar headaches for them... and I PRAY that does NOT happen. I'll seriously crash tf out if that happens. I'll quit the game, and stop ever paying real attention to the story. I'm not even joking.

To whoever read this far, thanks for reading my pointless yap. Here, take 5 cookies 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪

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u/LollipopLemon93 — 5 days ago

WTB a hyper specific account

Europe server

The characters that are must-have are in the images. Other characters are optional. Forgot to change the "S" to must have in the character image

u/LollipopLemon93 — 6 days ago

A very weird idea I have, but unsure on whether I should actually do it or not

Soo I've been watching some videos on YouTube, some of em being whiwa clears of Phrolova and Sigrika teams. That suddenly gave me a stupid idea: since I love the echo archetype so much, why not create a brand new account, where I'll pull for echo archetype characters only, except shorekeeper (idk if mornye counts) as she's a universal support.

Now here's the thing, it's easier said than done, at least for me. I'm a full-time university student, so basically I get a long break every 4 months (tri-semester), and on top of that, I already have an account running, a day one account. F2p btw. So managing two accounts would kinda be a hassle sometimes.

Now y'all might say "oh u just answered ur own question" and allat. I know u will, but there's something else I wanted to ask. If I do create one, what's the fastest way I could earn astrites and progress? What should I prioritize first before anything else to get to a high UL? A list of the things I should do from must to optional would be great.

Since the account will be echo only, now's the perfect time to open it, since Phrolova is available on the beginner banner, and if I play enough, I'll be able to gather enough astrites to get both her and her weapon. Here are the rules I decided to follow on that account, if I make one that is:

  1. I can only pull for echo archetype characters (cantarella, Phrolova, Sigrika, qiuyuan, Lucilla, galbrena). No other archetype is allowed, except shorekeeper, since she's universal.

  2. I can use 4 star, standard 5 star characters and weapons. That's why I'm planning to pick emerald of genesis from the weapon box for my rover once I reach UL 45, as rover is technically a 5 star. I just can't pull characters with any other archetype.

Yep, it's a very weird challenge. I've seen YouTubers doing challenges like these, and sometimes I wonder how they get the time to manage that many accounts, when I'm out here barely managing my main one lmfao.

So ye, those who came this far, thank u so much for reading. I took the pic myself from that one cube event in 3.3 I think. Don't mind the ping shit at the top, I was playing on cloud that time 😭

u/LollipopLemon93 — 7 days ago

Guys my Lucy can't really do much damage for some reason... What seems to be my issue?

(idk if flair is appropriate)

So I got Lucy since I needed a spectro DPS, and jinhsi, zani and Luuk didn't really interest me. Besides, I already had Rebecca (everyone who played during that time does lol), so I thought, why not get her dedicated DPS as well?

I accidentally got her s1 while using the extra free pulls, so currently I have s1r0 Lucy (I was saving for yangyang xuanling, so I decided to skip her weapon). For some damn reason, Lucy can't really do much damage on her liberation, which is supposed to be her nuke I believe (max I get is around 300k), and I have no idea why. I'm actually wondering if getting her was a bad idea atp.

I've attached my stats, weapon, echoes, skills and sequences in the pictures below, or above for PC users, so y'all can see my build. I use her with s0r0 Rebecca and s0r0 Mornye in endgame. Can anyone pls point out what on earth is wrong? Thank u.

u/LollipopLemon93 — 11 days ago

If given the chance, would u change anything in Phrolova's story?

Title basically. We all know her story at this point (except the ones who haven't played it yet lol), and we all loved it. She's basically the first female character who didn't fall in love with rover like many other women. Aemeath ain't gonna be counted here, since she's rover's daughter, thus she doesn't fall in the waifu category, and would DEFINITELY not fall in love with rover in that way.

That being said, I would actually modify the story a tiny bit. Like I would make her past not involved with rover, coz yea, atp almost every single character's past has rover in it. I know they were the reason her story turned out the way it was; how it divided the community, how it gave rover their own character for the first time instead of being yet another self insert, and most of all, how she still stayed a villain even after becoming playable (sadly genshin doesn't have this, but we won't talk about that here)

Look, I really love Phrolova. She's perfect the way she is. She actually has an elegant design while having minimal fan service, and our first playable villain. We all thought she was gonna follow the same path every villain does in every gacha game: becoming good before becoming playable. But she managed to dodge that, coz she's not on rover's side even after her story.

I've been waiting for her release since 2nd beta test, and I'm so glad I got her. Have her s0r1, and the only character I fully maxed out. She's currently my best DPS, but unfortunately I don't have any of her supports, since I don't like their designs enough to pull for them. Might get suoming if she's an echo support, otherwise Lucilla (skipped Lucilla for yangyang xuanling), since I actually like their designs.

Enough yapping. What would u change in her story if u had the chance? Or would u change anything at all? Lemme know in the comments!

u/LollipopLemon93 — 11 days ago

Which set is better for her: Molten rift or flaming clawprint?

So I recently pulled her from the reverb convene banner since I got her weapon last year by accident, and I really liked her design and story. Now I wonder, which sonata set will be the best for her? She scales off of liberation damage, so I was wondering if the flaming clawprint set will work, instead of the generic molten rift set. Lemme know which will be better for her overall damage. That's all!

(Pic for attention. Took this while doing her story quest)

u/LollipopLemon93 — 17 days ago

Can I get her to free Chisa from yangyang team?

So I'm planning to get suisui so I could free Chisa from yangyang team and use her on my cart team (I don't have ciaccona). Can I use Phrolova yangyang suisui, or yangyang rebecca suisui?

Also shorekeeper might come in the next reverb convene banner, and I'm also gonna get jingran, so ye my pulls are in danger. As an f2p, it's not possible for me to get everyone, unless I'm insanely lucky. What should I do?

u/LollipopLemon93 — 21 days ago

A weird ahh theory I have about a specific scene in his story

Soo I was about to go to bed last night, when this specific thought suddenly came to my mind. It's a scene in his story, aka the moment when rover enters the underworld with jingran.

That place is filled with so many ghosts and spirits, so upon entering rover will definitely tense up due to the ghosts being shoved into their face lmao. Jingran will notice this (he definitely will), and reassure rover not to be scared and lift their guard, because the ghosts are friendly.

Honestly ts came to my head inspired by this specific lyric from "Dark side" by Alan Walker: "Don't be afraid... The shadows know me." Yep ts so balls 😶😶... Idk the thought sounds so weird... And I've been contemplating whether I should even post this crap for 10 minutes...

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u/LollipopLemon93 — 21 days ago
▲ 6 r/WuWaves+1 crossposts

Something regarding the "urban legend" side quest

Soo I started the quest around 6 months ago, but I've been stuck in the last part (dunno if it's someone else's last part as well). I've done everything except the "fog in the tunnel" part. My quest says 4/5 done, and I tried everything: set the time to 24:00, no students appear. Set it to 23:00 and 01:00, nothing. Talked to some students around 06:00 and tried setting to 24:00 again, still nothing. Idk if something's wrong... Can someone please help me

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u/LollipopLemon93 — 23 days ago
▲ 18 r/SuisuiMains+1 crossposts

Kinda sad how she won't be getting any separate story quest

Every character got one, even the earliest got their own companion stories, if not main stories. I think this is the first time a limited 5 star character won't get a quest attached to their banner release like before. I mean I'm saying this because I haven't seen any additional story quest mentioned after yangyang's ones in the previous livestream. Correct me if I'm wrong tho.

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u/LollipopLemon93 — 24 days ago
▲ 130 r/WuWaves+1 crossposts

Isn't it rather weird how that ONE moment was never mentioned in the story again? (unless I'm stupid and missed out on dialogue lol)

In patch 2.7, aka the finale of rinascita, while everyone was about to finish off leviathan, leviathan screamed one sentence that shook us all:

Abraxas! Why hast thou betrayed us??

And by "Abraxas", leviathan was referring to Abby, aka our little echo who accompanies us everywhere we go, and helps us whenever he could (idk the gender so I'll refer to Abby as "he" for this post). That was an insanely huge nuke of lore drop, since the one being referred to is the one who's always with us. After that lore bomb, fans started speculating so many things: What if Abby is the first ever threnodian? What if he caused the first ever lament? What if he's lying to our faces while planning something behind the scenes? And so much more.

But here's what gets me: Why hasn't anyone mentioned this in the later story quests? Like as far as I remember, there was absolutely zero mention of it, and now that I think about it, it's been almost a year since that statement was ever mentioned, and the only time it was mentioned was during 2.7, when we FIRST heard about it.

Now unless I'm utterly stupid, or a huge lore skipper, I should be correct right? If I'm wrong, please let me know where this was mentioned after 2.7... I'd greatly appreciate it.

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u/LollipopLemon93 — 24 days ago

I made Remielle (Black outfit) in Roblox Dress to Impress

(idk if flair is correct or not lol)

Now I don't have VIP, or any paid and redeem code outfits, so ye this is the best I could do. Will do the white version if someone requests me to. I did the black one coz I really loved it.

Used a baseball bat as the sword since the axe was too long, and couldn't really do much on the wings. Still hope it's good enough

u/LollipopLemon93 — 26 days ago
▲ 139 r/SuisuiMains+3 crossposts

Which birb sis: Yangyang or Suisui? Or both?

Since we have a general idea of both of their personalities, character writing, and the most obvious ones, aka their designs (yangyang 2nd form) and combat animations and visuals, which one of them is ur favorite?

I like both honestly. I thought I won't really like suisui, thought she'll be another generic waifu goonerslop, but boi was I surprised... She grew on me very quickly. I even ended up shipping her with Jingran lmao. That ship has a lot of potential imo.

So who's ur favorite? Or do u just like both, like me? Lemme know in the comments!

u/LollipopLemon93 — 30 days ago
▲ 19 r/SuisuiMains+2 crossposts

Suisui or shorekeeper? Who'll be the better option for me?

Soo I'm planning on getting suisui for my yangyang so Chisa can be freed for cart team, but as far as I know, shorekeeper will definitely rerun in the next reverb convene banner. Now I was never able to get shorekeeper because I didn't have enough pulls in 1.3, and lost the 5050 in 2.2. So ye she basically dodged me everytime lmao.

Now I can't get both, since I'm f2p with a limited amount of pulls, and I just got yangyang and her weapon. I don't own hiyuki, and the only NS DPS I have are cart and yangyang. But sk is a general support, so I'm kinda torn. I'm also planning to get jingran in phase 2 of 3.6 since I really liked his drip and will definitely like his animations.

Should I get shorekeeper or suisui? Lmk in the comments

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u/LollipopLemon93 — 1 month ago

Need help on building his team

Hi everyone! So the images show the characters I have, and now that Jingran's element has been revealed, according to leaks he'll be HP scaling and heavy atk DPS. Dunno about the archetype (tune, echo, NS), and we'll see that when the beta begins.

Now if u look at my roster... Yea. I don't have lupa or Brant, so mono fusion is practically cooked lmao. Also, I don't think I can use Rebecca since she buffs atk, and Jingran is HP scaling, so that'll be useless.

Since I don't have any fusion characters (the ones I mentioned) I was thinking of running Phrolova Jingran mornye, since I don't have any echo sub DPS/support in my account. Idk I just don't like any of their designs enough for me to pull em.

Now what other teams can I make? I have no interest in pulling lupa or brant. I'm f2p, with 171 astrites worth of pulls with 538 corals as emergency pulls. I'm also planning to get shorekeeper if she reruns in the next reverb convene banner, but I also want suisui and Jingran... I'm also planning to get suoming since I like her design, and she's rumored to be dual mode (havoc bane and echo). Aaaa idk what to doooo...

So ye, help me out pls. He's the first male I'll ever pull (as u can see my account has no men except Yao. I'm a day one player), so I wanna make a decent team for him. Any help will be appreciated

u/LollipopLemon93 — 1 month ago

New Gen 11 ranked by looks (weird post lmao)

I put the flair as thirsty Thursdays since we're considering who's hot here lmao.

So ye, just rank em based on who looks the best to worst in ur opinion

Here's my ranking:

  1. Kaiser

  2. Hugo

  3. Sae

  4. Bunny

  5. Teddy

  6. Loki

  7. Lorenzo

Looking forward to seeing ur rankings!

(Pic for attention. Artist: @sfr1b on Twitter I think)

u/LollipopLemon93 — 1 month ago