ISO27001 Implementation alongside BAU/Projects in the UK - 4 person team

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Hi all,

I'm a IT at a UK organisation with approximately 570 employees, supported by a relatively small IT team of four people, including myself.

We're exploring how to align our existing information security governance, policies and operational practices with ISO 27001:2022, with the longer-term ambition of achieving formal certification.

We already have an overarching Information Security Policy with supporting policies, standards and procedures, alongside established technical security controls. However, we haven't previously implemented a full ISO 27001 ISMS and we're also doing large scale, organisation wide projects (new networks, new erp system, and the entire team being less than 6 months in).

My biggest concern isn't necessarily the technical controls, but understanding how to structure and manage the implementation alongside our existing responsibilities.

I'm particularly interested in hearing from people who have implemented ISO 27001 within similarly sized organisations, especially those with small internal IT teams.

A few questions:

Where would you start? Would you begin with a formal gap assessment, defining the ISMS scope, reviewing existing policies or something else?

(Every other thing at this organisation has been poor so I've taken a clean slate approach to everything so far, e.g. new desktops/OS, new servers, new networks).

How would you structure the project? Would you approach it in phases, allocate specific workstreams to individuals or appoint a dedicated internal lead? If a dedicated lead, who - we don't have certified ISO implementers.

How much resource is realistically required? Can a four-person IT team deliver most of the implementation alongside BAU responsibilities, or should we consider additional resource or external consultancy?

How many hours does an audit take from IT staff ?

How do you distribute responsibility? Given that ISO 27001 covers much more than IT, how did you involve HR, Finance, senior leadership and other departments?

We don't do software development so I plan on excluding any mentions of that in the SoA.

How did you manage documentation and evidence? Did you use dedicated ISMS software, SharePoint, spreadsheets or a combination?

How did you avoid creating unnecessary administrative overhead?

What would a realistic implementation timeline look like? Particularly if the initial objective is ISO alignment, followed by certification.

What would you do differently? Any lessons learned, common mistakes, training recommendations or things you wish you'd known before starting?

I'm not looking to simply produce documentation for an audit, although that is nice to do.

I'd like to build a functioning, sustainable ISMS that genuinely improves the standard at the organisation, so that the rest of the business can also improve too "hey, look at IT, they're ISO27001 certified, we should aim for something similar" type of rhetoric so that the standard across the organisation raises. (It's a badly optimised workplace.)

I'm also keen to develop the knowledge internally rather than becoming completely dependent on consultants.

I'd really appreciate any practical experiences, recommendations or examples of how others have approached this.

I appreciate it's a lot to read so thanks if you got this far.

Thanks in advance!

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u/ManLikeMeee — 4 days ago

Sales

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Because I don't need someone regurgitating what I've said to tell me how bad it is if I don't get some solution for it and Ninja has the perfect solution for it...

I can make that decision for myself.

Over £100k being spent and we don't need the BS that comes with.

Close to not renewing when that time comes.

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u/ManLikeMeee — 17 days ago

Licenses and Vendors

Hi all,

I'm just wondering how the licenses work...

So I have a small team of 5 internal IT staff,

We also have various vendors who would want access at any given time, no more than 2 concurrently working on our infrastructure. Usually only 3 vendors, and occasionally sometimes two people from the same vendor.

Do I need a license per vendor? Or is that included by default?

I know I'll need the 5 for my team for the password manager and the full PAM stack, but do I need more?

I was trying ask the sales rep but he was very much repeating the same thing asking me how many licenses I want when I was trying understand the licensing model...I don't think he understood what I was asking.

Thank you in advance.

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u/ManLikeMeee — 2 months ago

Decent Areas?

Hi all,

I have a friend of mine who is looking to move to Wolverhampton following some work.

And they're looking to settle and buy a property there too.

They're quite anxious about it all at the moment being a young woman somewhat alone and she wanted to know, what areas/postcodes are safe & considered affluent?

She's also an ethnic minority so she's also worried about potential discrimination and racism if she moves somewhere.

We did try and look around in this sub but couldn't find too much, so apologies if it's already answered somewhere.

Edit: thanks all, seems a large majority seem to think it's Tettenhall, Wightwick, Codsall, Compton, Penn (in that approximate order too of affluent areas with Tettenhall being the more affluent).

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u/ManLikeMeee — 2 months ago

Question about beard beads...

Salaam all,

I'm working with some special needs children and some of the work we're doing at the moment is a type of holiday fun club. Right now they're doing some silly dressing up etc.

I have a long beard, and they want me to put beads in my beard and dress like a pirate or viking etc

Does anyone know if wearing beads in the beard is permissible?

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u/ManLikeMeee — 2 months ago

[TOMT] A FPV drone video that goes through a salon in possibly eastern Europe.

The video starts off with a black or dark grey saloon car (possibly a Mercedes) and someone in the comments specifically mentions how awful the parking is

The video is a tour of the entire place and I think most people are stood still in the video.

It was brilliant drone flying and it ends with the salon name at the end which is why I think it's Eastern European.

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u/ManLikeMeee — 4 months ago

[TOMT] A FPV drone video that goes through a salon in possibly eastern Europe.

The video starts off with a black or dark grey saloon car (possibly a Mercedes) and someone in the comments specifically mentions how awful the parking is

The video is a tour of the entire place and I think most people are stood still in the video.

It was brilliant drone flying and it ends with the salon name at the end which is why I think it's Eastern European.

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u/ManLikeMeee — 4 months ago

I ordered at a restaurant 15mins away.

The order was due to arrive between 17:06-17:15

The driver was assigned somewhat immediately, but wasn't moving.

The time went to 17:45 ETA. The driver had moved but stopped somewhere else in a completely wrong location.

Then I cancelled the order because I was fed up and was almost an hour.

I then ordered from a different restaurant, which happens to have a few different branches, I ordered the food and continued,(for some reason, maybe I'm being stupid here), it defaulted to the branch that's further away?! Which I didn't realise...so then I tried cancel and change immediately as soon as it was out through but it says it will charge me for £13 ...so now I'm waiting for the order to arrive because I'm not paying the cost of £13 to cancel...

So yeah, I've ordered hot food which will likely arrive cold because it's further away.

For what reason did Uber decide to do this...I've no idea, I've never ordered from that further branch before.

Right now, they keep swapping the drivers too whilst I wait.

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u/ManLikeMeee — 5 months ago