For context, faded seems to mainly write in black while this page has faded’s phrase but in red, heavily implying this is Michael. Take this as you will since I feel like there’s many ways to interpret this but I just wanted to point that out
Hello! Today I wanted to discuss Follow Me and my personal interpretation of the ending minigame and who the fifth spirit in the final minigame is. I noticed how popular of a topic this was recently and I thought to throw my hat into the ring.
Firstly, I think the final minigame is meant to be an inverse of the MCI, or essentially William getting a taste of his own medicine. What do we know about the MCI? William lured multiple children into a room, killed them, and supposedly kept their dead bodies in animatronics suits. Now what happens in the final Follow Me minigame? Multiple children lure William into a room and get him killed by having him accidentally getting springlocked, causing his body to remain in an animatronic suit. I don’t know how much I need to explain here if we’re being fully honest since I feel like this is incredibly obvious.
With that out of the way, I wanna analyze the three most popular options for the final spirit in Happiest Day who chases William down and who I think they are. The most popular choices include a fifth MCI kid (assumably Golden Freddy), the Bite Victim (also probably in Golden Freddy), and Charlie (the Puppet).
Firstly, I think it’s very easy and fair to rule out the Puppet. She wasn’t stuffed in a suit at all, which kinda defeats the whole point of the irony taking place here. The kids cause William to get stuck in a room and stuffed in a suit like how William lured them into a room and stuffed them all into suits. Also yes, I believe WillStuff far more than PuppetStuff, especially after the Mimic Saga having a character directly impersonating William (Glitchtrap) stuffing someone into a Freddy suit at the end of Pizza Party, which would follow the exact narrative of WillStuff. Can it be argued that this could be the Mimics memories meshing in with Williams in a similar vein to the Michael room in SB? Maybe, but the fact this is the only time we see an MCI victim (or a representation of one) getting placed in a suit in the games and the fact every other continuity (besides maybe Frights) pulls WillStuff as well seems to be heavily pointing towards that direction. I also don’t believe the fifth spirit is the Puppet simply due to the fact we don’t really see the Puppet working directly with the MCI as a team. They’re always seen as this upper leader or protector as opposed to a direct member. Stuff like GGGL, Save Them, the FNAF 2 dream sequences, and the end of Happiest Day all show different examples of Puppet purposefully being separated or seen above the other MCI in some way. Heck, for all we know the Puppet could be the only one responsible for the cake at the end of Happiest Day, meaning the other MCI were kinda just waiting around and only contributed by being at the party. This is further exemplified by the fact there’s not really a specific moment where it’s just the MCI and Charlotte working as a team in the games. The Puppet is possibly in the FNAF 1 building but doesn’t do anything, Charlotte works with everyone in FNAF 2 and even shows up before the Withereds, there’s the likelihood that Molten Freddy is just fueled by remnant instead of being controlled by any spirits (ruling out the MCI and Charlotte directly working together in FNAF 6, which should’ve been incredibly obvious by the fact William and Elizabeth are also here), and UCN is literally some kind of nightmare where anyone can work with anyone. I think the closest there is the fact 4/20 mode in FNAF 2 does lead to a star and does happen to include the Puppet, but that’s partly because the fact that the Puppet can’t be turned off at all in FNAF 2’s custom nights, so for all we know this could just be a reference to the first game with the Puppet just also happening to be here. Lastly, I’m pretty sure one of the Fazbear Frights stories by the name of “You’re the Band” once again depicts the Puppet as this above protector of the MCI instead of working with them. Granted this is a story in the last book where all the stories were assumably cut because they couldn’t fit into any of the other books, but at the same time I don’t think that truly devalues their canonicity or relevance when trying to understand certain characters (except Mike possibly not being Michael in this continuity but that honestly isn’t the biggest deal as it’s just one example and was also done in the movies too.)
Now who’s a character we know has worked with the other 4 MCI kids since night 4 of the first game? Golden Freddy. Golden Freddy also is grouped up with the MCI in multiple of the examples brought up above that Charlotte isn’t linked to such as them having the same sprite and being a ghost around the same time as the other kids in GGGL, them being around the same area or distance as the other MCI victims in the dream sequences, and them also getting cake and fading off around the same time and speed as the other MCI kids, unlike Charlotte fading off slower. Yes, Golden Freddy does often go off and do his own thing away from the MCI as seen in other minigames such as Save Them, but the night 4 call of FNAF 1 and even “The Week Before” (gameline or not I don’t think it’s entirely unreliable for understanding different characters) show him as this spirit who’s willing to join in later on and directly work with the other MCI if there’s a shared goal, with him taking on the role of an occasional leader. Now who else do we know as a spirit who’s willing to occasionally join the MCI after they begin doing something, is clearly connected to them to the point they can even possibly be considered an equal of sorts, and works directly with them in a leadership role? The fifth Follow Me spirit.
So if it’s Golden Freddy, that leaves us with the question as to whether it’s BV or a fifth MCI kid? Well I think this depends on multiple theories which I’ll bring up throughout this segment. This section will also be primarily under the scenario GoldenVictimSolo (even if I personally believe GoldenDuo). Firstly, BVStuffed. That’s probably the biggest one from a narrative standpoint since if Golden Freddy wasn’t stuffed into a suit by William, that would once again make this being William getting a taste of his own medicine make a lot less sense and kinda just ruin the point of the minigame to begin with. While I do believe the theory is possible, this also becomes somewhat problematic when you think about the fact it somewhat relies on multiple other theories which are incredibly flawed such as OrchestraBite (how did William consider Michael putting BV into Fredbear’s mouth), Cord Theory (when the plushies are shown fading off, arguably implying BV’s already slowly dying and fading into darkness which would kinda make him pulling the plug insignificant narratively since he was going to die anyways), and WillSpeaker (which doesn’t make all that much sense if he’s also the FNAF World speaker, especially if they’re interested in giving BV back his memories and even more questionable in the scenario World takes place in BV’s head since we get little to no implications of William being able to enter someone’s mind, and also the fact FNAF World may take place around 3 or UCN where Afton would be incredibly busy). Yes, William could’ve stilled stuffed BV into Golden Freddy for other reasons such as experimentation with the paranormal (which makes some form of sense unless you believe BVFirst or BVSpark), but without these I feel like the strongest evidence for this would be BVDreadbear (from a parallel standpoint), which is certainly possible but at the same time is also somewhat problematic as it implies BVTOYSNHK due to the red lake Easter egg (which I just don’t believe for multiple reasons such as there being no clear way William actually did kill BV, especially in the scenario BV never realized William was the plushie which may end up being true considering the fact it’s never truly implied. Even BVExperiments has some issues considering the whole point of “what is seen in the shadows is often misunderstood by a child” seems to be that BV saw something which he misinterpreted into being something completely scary, which doesn’t make all that much sense since there’s not that much to misinterpret about the animatronics being scary and he assumably gets scared when seeing someone putting on a Springlock costume, implying he just saw someone putting on a Springlock suit and misinterpreted it, further supported by what the pigtail girls says about the rumor of people being stuffed in suits. There’s also the chance Michael could’ve been in the experiments and BV either infiltrated his nightmares or just wasn’t involved at all). The only way Dreadbear Victim would work without BVTOYSNHK is if this represents someone else inside of Golden Freddy controlling the suit, but then that reintroduces GoldenDuo and makes it questionable as to why it’d be BV instead of the fifth victim actually tied to the accident.
And that leaves us with the fifth MCI kid, which I think makes the most amount of sense. They have clear connections to Golden Freddy and they were stuffed in a suit like the other 4 victims (keeping the representation of Follow Me and the MCI alive and having more connections to them than BV if all five MCI victims were stuffed around the same time).
But I’d love to hear what you guys think and I hope you all have a great day!
Hello! Recently I’ve been looking through the logbook and I wanted to share why I personally think Cassidy is not only the faded text as opposed to the altered text, but why I also think they’re the gravestone that’s hidden off in FNAF 6.
Firstly, there’s the page where Michael draws what seems to be a dream vacation. However, it seems like someone also drew a hidden arrow pointing at the page number. Whether it be Michael helping out or someone else, the faded text we see throughout the logbook wrote “my name” in it. This would heavily imply that the page number correlates to the name of the faded text, and since 29 is one of the numbers that help us find the name “Cassidy,” it’s arguably easy to connect the dots and assumed the faded text is Cassidy.
But there’s some counterpoints and ideas to this which I think are entirely valid and I’d like to share my thoughts on them. At first, many would assume the altered text person (assumably BV) is the one leading us to the name “Cassidy” since many of the pages involve us finding altered page numbers or numbers swapped around. However, I think there’s the chance the whole point was that we were meant to assume this was altered before finding out the truth as one of the pages which help us involves two numbers being changed to red. Why is this important? Because while the altered text person continuously speaks through black, only two characters in the logbook speak through red, being Michael and the faded text. Since Michael assumably can’t change the direct contents of the logbook, what if this is faded, and therefore the rest of the trail leading to Cassidy is also faded? It would not only make sense with the text being changed to red, but the fact Michael also assumably is helping faded to some capacity, which intentional or not wouldn’t make as much sense if this was BV working with him. Also the fact that faded is known to write over Michael’s drawings throughout the logbook further points to faded and Michael having a stronger connection as opposed to altered and Michael. There’s also the fact that the pattern of altered page numbers slowly but surely falls apart as the trail goes on, which could technically just be altered changing their ways of communication, but otherwise it could imply this isn’t altered themselves as it’s being revealed to us through this breaking of the pattern (although I do see how this can be a stretch). I should probably at least mention that the pages with children’s toys drawn on them which iirc helps us with finding Cassidy in the logbook, there’s also a toy telephone drawn on, something which while connected to BV is only brought up by the faded text. The drawings being mostly faded off too (even if it may be in black writing) further proves that faded could actually have a more active part in the trailer to finding the name “Cassidy.” The fact this is written in black may also help since it could show that everything else involving black writing throughout the Cassidy trail could originate from them, but I do see how that can be considered a stretch. For all we know this could be altered, even if I do think it’s more logical for it to be faded. Lastly, why wouldn’t altered just write their name in the cross word? Yeah it may seem unbelievable that faded wouldn’t just write their name down and instead just make a trail for BV to follow, but at the same time it also doesn’t make sense for BV to try and hide out his name either, especially if you believe he’s the person in Golden Freddy who primarily says “it’s me” (I don’t really have much opinions on this myself) since we see the phrase written in proper lines across the word search.
I’d also like to bring up the idea that Faded set up the arrow on page 29 with “my name” actually referring to asking BV to alter parts of the logbook to reveal his name. However, I’d like to ask why not just say “your name”? Faded doesn’t really speak to altered in a similar way to saying “my name” when referring to them throughout the rest of the book (iirc), so why change it here?
I’d like to bring up the possibility of faded being Michael and I personally don’t believe that at the moment since there’s the chance he was meant to keep the logbook as a personal item before accidentally leaving it behind, so under that scenario I don’t really think there’s a motive for Mike not to just write the same throughout the whole thing (unless he was trying to pretend to be someone else the whole time to not scare off or annoy BV, but then at the same time we have to ask where the name “Cassidy” came from).
Lastly for this part of the post, I should probably bring up logbookparts, which is the idea that faded and altered are actually two separate parts of BV that were split apart from each other. In my opinion I do think the theory’s possible, but at the same time I’m not fully sold on it as of yet mainly because I don’t really know if there’s anything outside of the logbook that ever suggests there being two split parts of BV as characters we see in the games, but to be fair I may not be the best person to judge on this theory since I’ve only heard of it recently and there may be other theories to add onto this. If there isn’t anything pointing towards there being two BV halves in the games as their own characters elsewhere through other theories, then I just don’t see why they’d introduce this in the logbook only to never do anything with it again. We also have to bring up whether there’s a second name in the logbook or not such as Adam, Dave, or Evan since if any of those are there, then why would two halves of the same character go by entirely different identities? While most theories about a second name in the logbook have always had issues, I think it’s still fair to mention here if we were to take any of those theories into consideration. I guess you could also propose GoldenDavid but I am aware of its many flaws and how controversial of an idea it is overall, so at the moment I just don’t believe that either and will just be rolling with that not being the case for now (no offense to GoldenDavid believers, I think every theory is valid until proven otherwise).
Now for the final part of the post, why do I think Cassidy is the FNAF 6 grave? Well it’s that same grave image we see in the logbook. In FNAF 6, we have a name that is purposefully hidden from us, leaving the name of that gravestone a mystery. Then we have a book that’s likely canon to the games involving us finding a name which is also tied back to a gravestone in that same book. So if we have a gravestone in 6 that has its name purposefully hidden, then we have a book which solves the name of someone linked to a gravestone, and then we supposedly don’t have any other media pointing towards the gravestone in FNAF 6 as of yet (please correct me if I’m wrong), then I think it’s easy to assume Cassidy is the answer to said grave and is meant to wrap up that mystery from the sixth game. This could be an overly simplified version of what I’m trying to say and I’m willing to try to make it more clear in the comments if anyone needs, but I hope I was able to make my point across.
But I’d love to hear what you guys think and if I made any mistakes or not. Thank you for reading this and I hope you all have a great day!
Edit: Credit to u /UnderseaRexieVT for pointing this out but the word search has someone directly ask questions like “who are you” or “what’s your name.” Under this being altered text, this would heavily imply faded is Cassidy because there’s no reason they’d ask for their name and it’s still in a straight line sentence instead of being scattered around like the letters to Cassidy.
Hello! Recently I’ve been looking through the logbook and I wanted to share why I personally think Cassidy is not only the faded text as opposed to the altered text, but why I also think they’re the gravestone that’s hidden off in FNAF 6.
Firstly, there’s the page where Michael draws what seems to be a dream vacation. However, it seems like someone also drew a hidden arrow pointing at the page number. Whether it be Michael helping out or someone else, the faded text we see throughout the logbook wrote “my name” in it. This would heavily imply that the page number correlates to the name of the faded text, and since 29 is one of the numbers that help us find the name “Cassidy,” it’s arguably easy to connect the dots and assumed the faded text is Cassidy.
But there’s some counterpoints and ideas to this which I think are entirely valid and I’d like to share my thoughts on them. At first, many would assume the altered text person (assumably BV) is the one leading us to the name “Cassidy” since many of the pages involve us finding altered page numbers or numbers swapped around. However, I think there’s the chance the whole point was that we were meant to assume this was altered before finding out the truth as one of the pages which help us involves two numbers being changed to red. Why is this important? Because while the altered text person continuously speaks through black, only two characters in the logbook speak through red, being Michael and the faded text. Since Michael assumably can’t change the direct contents of the logbook, what if this is faded, and therefore the rest of the trail leading to Cassidy is also faded? It would not only make sense with the text being changed to red, but the fact Michael also assumably is helping faded to some capacity, which intentional or not wouldn’t make as much sense if this was BV working with him. Also the fact that faded is known to write over Michael’s drawings throughout the logbook further points to faded and Michael having a stronger connection as opposed to altered and Michael. There’s also the fact that the pattern of altered page numbers slowly but surely falls apart as the trail goes on, which could technically just be altered changing their ways of communication, but otherwise it could imply this isn’t altered themselves as it’s being revealed to us through this breaking of the pattern (although I do see how this can be a stretch). I should probably at least mention that the pages with children’s toys drawn on them which iirc helps us with finding Cassidy in the logbook, there’s also a toy telephone drawn on, something which while connected to BV is only brought up by the faded text. The drawings being mostly faded off too (even if it may be in black writing) further proves that faded could actually have a more active part in the trailer to finding the name “Cassidy.” The fact this is written in black may also help since it could show that everything else involving black writing throughout the Cassidy trail could originate from them, but I do see how that can be considered a stretch. For all we know this could be altered, even if I do think it’s more logical for it to be faded. Lastly, why wouldn’t altered just write their name in the cross word? Yeah it may seem unbelievable that faded wouldn’t just write their name down and instead just make a trail for BV to follow, but at the same time it also doesn’t make sense for BV to try and hide out his name either, especially if you believe he’s the person in Golden Freddy who primarily says “it’s me” (I don’t really have much opinions on this myself) since we see the phrase written in proper lines across the word search.
I’d also like to bring up the idea that Faded set up the arrow on page 29 with “my name” actually referring to asking BV to alter parts of the logbook to reveal his name. However, I’d like to ask why not just say “your name”? Faded doesn’t really speak to altered in a similar way to saying “my name” when referring to them throughout the rest of the book (iirc), so why change it here?
I’d like to bring up the possibility of faded being Michael and I personally don’t believe that at the moment since there’s the chance he was meant to keep the logbook as a personal item before accidentally leaving it behind, so under that scenario I don’t really think there’s a motive for Mike not to just write the same throughout the whole thing (unless he was trying to pretend to be someone else the whole time to not scare off or annoy BV, but then at the same time we have to ask where the name “Cassidy” came from).
Lastly for this part of the post, I should probably bring up logbookparts, which is the idea that faded and altered are actually two separate parts of BV that were split apart from each other. In my opinion I do think the theory’s possible, but at the same time I’m not fully sold on it as of yet mainly because I don’t really know if there’s anything outside of the logbook that ever suggests there being two split parts of BV as characters we see in the games, but to be fair I may not be the best person to judge on this theory since I’ve only heard of it recently and there may be other theories to add onto this. If there isn’t anything pointing towards there being two BV halves in the games as their own characters elsewhere through other theories, then I just don’t see why they’d introduce this in the logbook only to never do anything with it again. We also have to bring up whether there’s a second name in the logbook or not such as Adam, Dave, or Evan since if any of those are there, then why would two halves of the same character go by entirely different identities? While most theories about a second name in the logbook have always had issues, I think it’s still fair to mention here if we were to take any of those theories into consideration. I guess you could also propose GoldenDavid but I am aware of its many flaws and how controversial of an idea it is overall, so at the moment I just don’t believe that either and will just be rolling with that not being the case for now (no offense to GoldenDavid believers, I think every theory is valid until proven otherwise).
Now for the final part of the post, why do I think Cassidy is the FNAF 6 grave? Well it’s that same grave image we see in the logbook. In FNAF 6, we have a name that is purposefully hidden from us, leaving the name of that gravestone a mystery. Then we have a book that’s likely canon to the games involving us finding a name which is also tied back to a gravestone in that same book. So if we have a gravestone in 6 that has its name purposefully hidden, then we have a book which solves the name of someone linked to a gravestone, and then we supposedly don’t have any other media pointing towards the gravestone in FNAF 6 as of yet (please correct me if I’m wrong), then I think it’s easy to assume Cassidy is the answer to said grave and is meant to wrap up that mystery from the sixth game. This could be an overly simplified version of what I’m trying to say and I’m willing to try to make it more clear in the comments if anyone needs, but I hope I was able to make my point across.
But I’d love to hear what you guys think and if I made any mistakes or not. Thank you for reading this and I hope you all have a great day!
Edit: Credit to u /UnderseaRexieVT for pointing this out but the word search has someone directly ask questions like “who are you” or “what’s your name.” Under this being altered text, this would heavily imply faded is Cassidy because there’s no reason they’d ask for their name and it’s still in a straight line sentence instead of being scattered around like the letters to Cassidy.
For context, this is on a page where Michael draws what seems to be his desired dream vacation. However, there’s a slightly more hidden arrow on the bottom of the image pointing to the page number “29,” one famously known for being part of the Cassidy puzzle. Inside that arrow we can see who’s clearly the faded text that’s been talking to the altered text (assumably BV) throughout the logbook. The faded text writes “my name,” which is something they also write in a gravestone on another page of the logbook, further proving this is the same faded text as we’ve been seeing throughout the book.
If that’s the case, doesn’t this directly prove CassidyFaded since it literally involves Faded saying their name while pointing at one of the numbers required to get the name “Cassidy?” And wouldn’t this also directly debunk CassidyVictim since it’s not the altered text saying this and we know the altered text is probably if not undeniably BV?
I’d love to hear what you guys think though and I hope you all have a great day!
I might as well make a post based around Security Breach 2 since I haven’t seen anyone bring up something I noticed recently yet and speculation has been amping up ever since the new Vanny image was released a couple of days ago.
It’s heavily speculated that Security Breach 2 is going to be water-based to some capacity, with a waterpark and even elements from “Submechanophobia,” a Tales from the Pizzaplex story, possibly appearing in the game based off certain tweets Steel Wool has made over the past year.
If this is the case, then I’d like to bring up a character I haven’t seen anyone talk about when it relates to these teasers yet, that being Old Man Consequences. He’s one of, if not the only character we legitimately see linked to water in the games (not counting in-universe artwork of characters like Foxy and Chica as of now) and has been present in multiple games such as Security Breach and HW2. He’s also possibly referenced in Ruin with the red water you can see underneath the Pizzaplex and in SOTM with Monty’s fishing game (that’s the name of the item in the game if I remember correctly). If we want to get even more specific, he’s primarily linked to a lake we see him consistently fishing at, which can be seen as being almost similar to a pool since both are small bodies of water.
With water being a possibly major component of the next game and OMC’s ongoing presence throughout the modern era, what if the next game is going to reveal a lot more about Old Man Consequences than we first thought? Maybe he’ll contribute to the actual story of the game, but if not maybe this game is what his consistent appearances have been leading up to as we may finally learn more about his motives and maybe even who he actually is.
And while this may be heavily speculative, we can take this a step further and make the argument that in some way we may figure out what exactly is in OMC’s lake (if there even is a singular answer) since there’s the chance we’ll also be entering underwater areas in the next game. Even without that, it’d still kinda make sense for us to figure out what’s in there since like I said earlier, OMC’s lake is similar to a pool in some way, and water parks involve people entering and exploring pools. Whether it’s a singular lake with one destination, a lake with multiple, or multiple lakes, what we find in the next game can have some insane implications for past games such as FNAF World and UCN since the scenes with our player character drowning in those games have remained incredibly hard to solve due to how many ways the lake (or lakes) can be interpreted.
However, even if anything hidden relating to his lake does show up, it probably won’t be anything directly stated and would instead be something figured out with context clues, which can also lead to different conclusions/theories about the lake depending on how obvious these clues are or not. I should also mention that we really shouldn’t get our hopes too high for character reveals such as who TOYSNHK or the Happiest Day Receiver are since they don’t seem to relate to the modern narrative in any way and have been mostly mysterious characters for years. This may not be important to bring up but I thought it was still worth mentioning since I brought up both UCN and FNAF World. I’d be happy if some character reveals happened but I’m not expecting them if I’m being fully honest.
But those are my thoughts and I’d love to hear what you guys think. I hope you all have a great day!
I might as well make a post based around Security Breach 2 since I haven’t seen anyone bring up something I noticed recently yet and speculation has been amping up ever since the new Vanny image was released a couple of days ago.
It’s heavily speculated that Security Breach 2 is going to be water-based to some capacity, with a waterpark and even elements from “Submechanophobia,” a Tales from the Pizzaplex story, possibly appearing in the game based off certain tweets Steel Wool has made over the past year.
If this is the case, then I’d like to bring up a character I haven’t seen anyone talk about when it relates to these teasers yet, that being Old Man Consequences. He’s one of, if not the only character we legitimately see linked to water in the games (not counting in-universe artwork of characters like Foxy and Chica as of now) and has been present in multiple games such as Security Breach and HW2. He’s also possibly referenced in Ruin with the red water you can see underneath the Pizzaplex and in SOTM with Monty’s fishing game (that’s the name of the item in the game if I remember correctly). If we want to get even more specific, he’s primarily linked to a lake we see him consistently fishing at, which can be seen as being almost similar to a pool since both are small bodies of water.
With water being a possibly major component of the next game and OMC’s ongoing presence throughout the modern era, what if the next game is going to reveal a lot more about Old Man Consequences than we first thought? Maybe he’ll contribute to the actual story of the game, but if not maybe this game is what his consistent appearances have been leading up to as we may finally learn more about his motives and maybe even who he actually is.
And while this may be heavily speculative, we can take this a step further and make the argument that in some way we may figure out what exactly is in OMC’s lake (if there even is a singular answer) since there’s the chance we’ll also be entering underwater areas in the next game. Even without that, it’d still kinda make sense for us to figure out what’s in there since like I said earlier, OMC’s lake is similar to a pool in some way, and water parks involve people entering and exploring pools. Whether it’s a singular lake with one destination, a lake with multiple, or multiple lakes, what we find in the next game can have some insane implications for past games such as FNAF World and UCN since the scenes with our player character drowning in those games have remained incredibly hard to solve due to how many ways the lake (or lakes) can be interpreted.
However, even if anything hidden relating to his lake does show up, it probably won’t be anything directly stated and would instead be something figured out with context clues, which can also lead to different conclusions/theories about the lake depending on how obvious these clues are or not. I should also mention that we really shouldn’t get our hopes too high for character reveals such as who TOYSNHK or the Happiest Day Receiver are since they don’t seem to relate to the modern narrative in any way and have been mostly mysterious characters for years. This may not be important to bring up but I thought it was still worth mentioning since I brought up both UCN and FNAF World. I’d be happy if some character reveals happened but I’m not expecting them if I’m being fully honest.
But those are my thoughts and I’d love to hear what you guys think. I hope you all have a great day!
I might as well make a post based around Security Breach 2 since I haven’t seen anyone bring up something I noticed recently yet and speculation has been amping up ever since the new Vanny image was released a couple of days ago.
It’s heavily speculated that Security Breach 2 is going to be water-based to some capacity, with a waterpark and even elements from “Submechanophobia,” a Tales from the Pizzaplex story, possibly appearing in the game based off certain tweets Steel Wool has made over the past year.
If this is the case, then I’d like to bring up a character I haven’t seen anyone talk about when it relates to these teasers yet, that being Old Man Consequences. He’s one of, if not the only character we legitimately see linked to water in the games (not counting in-universe artwork of characters like Foxy and Chica as of now) and has been present in multiple games such as Security Breach and HW2. He’s also possibly referenced in Ruin with the red water you can see underneath the Pizzaplex and in SOTM with Monty’s fishing game (that’s the name of the item in the game if I remember correctly). If we want to get even more specific, he’s primarily linked to a lake we see him consistently fishing at, which can be seen as being almost similar to a pool since both are small bodies of water.
With water being a possibly major component of the next game and OMC’s ongoing presence throughout the modern era, what if the next game is going to reveal a lot more about Old Man Consequences than we first thought? Maybe he’ll contribute to the actual story of the game, but if not maybe this game is what his consistent appearances have been leading up to as we may finally learn more about his motives and maybe even who he actually is.
And while this may be heavily speculative, we can take this a step further and make the argument that in some way we may figure out what exactly is in OMC’s lake (if there even is a singular answer) since there’s the chance we’ll also be entering underwater areas in the next game. Even without that, it’d still kinda make sense for us to figure out what’s in there since like I said earlier, OMC’s lake is similar to a pool in some way, and water parks involve people entering and exploring pools. Whether it’s a singular lake with one destination, a lake with multiple, or multiple lakes, what we find in the next game can have some insane implications for past games such as FNAF World and UCN since the scenes with our player character drowning in those games have remained incredibly hard to solve due to how many ways the lake (or lakes) can be interpreted.
However, even if anything hidden relating to his lake does show up, it probably won’t be anything directly stated and would instead be something figured out with context clues, which can also lead to different conclusions/theories about the lake depending on how obvious these clues are or not. I should also mention that we really shouldn’t get our hopes too high for character reveals such as who TOYSNHK or the Happiest Day Receiver are since they don’t seem to relate to the modern narrative in any way and have been mostly mysterious characters for years. This may not be important to bring up but I thought it was still worth mentioning since I brought up both UCN and FNAF World. I’d be happy if some character reveals happened but I’m not expecting them if I’m being fully honest.
But those are my thoughts and I’d love to hear what you guys think. I hope you all have a great day!
Jokes aside there’s probably some other explanation to this but otherwise I don’t think she views the MCI as kindly as most people think
Jokes aside there’s probably some other explanation to this but otherwise I don’t think she views the MCI as kindly as most people think
Yes, this may seem confusing at first, but I’d like to make the argument that there really isn’t a guarantee or even to an extent a likelihood that Stage 01 was about the Bite of 83. I do believe stuff like Fritz specifically being there would become significant later with stuff such as all the Foxy and Fredbear connections (along with Foxybro from FNAF 4), but there’s also enough to say this may not have to do as much with the fourth game as most people expect.
Firstly, Fredbear doesn’t have a purple hat and bow tie. Instead, he has a brown hat and possibly a black bow tie (although that could just be a button), with the hat likely being a replacement for a black one since we wouldn’t be able to see it on top of the black background. Now some may assume this is just meant to reference Golden Freddy and that Fredbear’s hat and tie were retconned to be purple in the fourth game, but if they wanted to have it so that Fredbear wasn’t ever associated with black accessories then what’s up with all the imagery we see in Security Breach? We constantly see him with black clothing in all of the items we can collect in the game featuring him. If anything, it almost feels like the modern games are trying to emphasize the fact Fredbear didn’t always have purple on him, which would mean Stage 01 doesn’t have to represent a version of him with purple either, which would include him in FNAF 4, therefore implying this probably has nothing to do with what we see in that game.
Furthermore, we have to ask ourselves what did Scott have in mind by the time of FNAF 3? If I’m not mistaken, that was meant to be the final game in the entire franchise. If that’s the case, then how were we meant to figure out the kid missing in Stage 01 got killed by Fredbear? There’s nothing really pointing towards this conclusion besides the fact Fredbear can move around, but at the same time this is for fairly obvious gameplay purposes and may have little to nothing to do with the incident implied in the minigame itself. Something to also consider is that Happiest Day relating to the memories of BV only seemed to have been added after FNAF 4 came out, so even with him in mind later on there’s still the fact that Stage 01 originally seemed to have nothing to do with him at all, which means the missing kid may also just represent and/or be someone else entirely. The only way I can see this being related to BV is if Scott himself had no idea what happened to this kid, which is certainly possibly as he does like to give stuff actual meaning if they didn’t originally have anything as later games come out, but this was meant to be the conclusion to everything. Yes Happiest Day and its minigames were given new meaning later on, but that’s giving context or purpose to something which obviously didn’t have any instead of an entire incident which may have had some kind of relevance already.
And the last thing I’d like to mention is that I don’t think the Fredbear’s we see in FNAF 4 was the first stage we see in Stage 01 or possibly even the first location at all. We don’t even know if Fredbear’s started out with animatronics, but even if they did we know the establishment has been around since the 70s, and judging by there being stuff such as “singing shows” by the time, I think it’s far more likely that what we see in FNAF 4 wouldn’t be the same as the original iteration of the performance.
So what do I think Stage 01 and the disappearing kid means? I don’t know. Like the easiest answer is that it just represents Fritz as we see him later on in the minigame, but there’s at least some issues with that such as a questionable amount of correlation between the two and the lack of this seemingly happening in other minigames in FNAF 3 featuring the MCI. Otherwise I don’t have many ideas, especially since we don’t know if this kid going missing has any plot relevance beyond it maybe causing the original Fredbear’s to close.
I’d love to hear what you guys think though and thank you for reading this far. Have a great day!
Yes, this may seem confusing at first, but I’d like to make the argument that there really isn’t a guarantee or even to an extent a likelihood that Stage 01 was about the Bite of 83. I do believe stuff like Fritz specifically being there would become significant later with stuff such as all the Foxy and Fredbear connections (along with Foxybro from FNAF 4), but there’s also enough to say this may not have to do as much with the fourth game as most people expect.
Firstly, Fredbear doesn’t have a purple hat and bow tie. Instead, he has a brown hat and possibly a black bow tie (although that could just be a button), with the hat likely being a replacement for a black one since we wouldn’t be able to see it on top of the black background. Now some may assume this is just meant to reference Golden Freddy and that Fredbear’s hat and tie were retconned to be purple in the fourth game, but if they wanted to have it so that Fredbear wasn’t ever associated with black accessories then what’s up with all the imagery we see in Security Breach? We constantly see him with black clothing in all of the items we can collect in the game featuring him. If anything, it almost feels like the modern games are trying to emphasize the fact Fredbear didn’t always have purple on him, which would mean Stage 01 doesn’t have to represent a version of him with purple either, which would include him in FNAF 4, therefore implying this probably has nothing to do with what we see in that game.
Furthermore, we have to ask ourselves what did Scott have in mind by the time of FNAF 3? If I’m not mistaken, that was meant to be the final game in the entire franchise. If that’s the case, then how were we meant to figure out the kid missing in Stage 01 got killed by Fredbear? There’s nothing really pointing towards this conclusion besides the fact Fredbear can move around, but at the same time this is for fairly obvious gameplay purposes and may have little to nothing to do with the incident implied in the minigame itself. Something to also consider is that Happiest Day relating to the memories of BV only seemed to have been added after FNAF 4 came out, so even with him in mind later on there’s still the fact that Stage 01 originally seemed to have nothing to do with him at all, which means the missing kid may also just represent and/or be someone else entirely. The only way I can see this being related to BV is if Scott himself had no idea what happened to this kid, which is certainly possibly as he does like to give stuff actual meaning if they didn’t originally have anything as later games come out, but this was meant to be the conclusion to everything. Yes Happiest Day and its minigames were given new meaning later on, but that’s giving context or purpose to something which obviously didn’t have any instead of an entire incident which may have had some kind of relevance already.
And the last thing I’d like to mention is that I don’t think the Fredbear’s we see in FNAF 4 was the first stage we see in Stage 01 or possibly even the first location at all. We don’t even know if Fredbear’s started out with animatronics, but even if they did we know the establishment has been around since the 70s, and judging by there being stuff such as “singing shows” by the time, I think it’s far more likely that what we see in FNAF 4 wouldn’t be the same as the original iteration of the performance.
So what do I think Stage 01 and the disappearing kid means? I don’t know. Like the easiest answer is that it just represents Fritz as we see him later on in the minigame, but there’s at least some issues with that such as a questionable amount of correlation between the two and the lack of this seemingly happening in other minigames in FNAF 3 featuring the MCI. Otherwise I don’t have many ideas, especially since we don’t know if this kid going missing has any plot relevance beyond it maybe causing the original Fredbear’s to close.
I’d love to hear what you guys think though and thank you for reading this far. Have a great day!
Yes, this may seem confusing at first, but I’d like to make the argument that there really isn’t a guarantee or even to an extent a likelihood that Stage 01 was about the Bite of 83. I do believe stuff like Fritz specifically being there would become significant later with stuff such as all the Foxy and Fredbear connections (along with Foxybro from FNAF 4), but there’s also enough to say this may not have to do as much with the fourth game as most people expect.
Firstly, Fredbear doesn’t have a purple hat and bow tie. Instead, he has a brown hat and possibly a black bow tie (although that could just be a button), with the hat likely being a replacement for a black one since we wouldn’t be able to see it on top of the black background. Now some may assume this is just meant to reference Golden Freddy and that Fredbear’s hat and tie were retconned to be purple in the fourth game, but if they wanted to have it so that Fredbear wasn’t ever associated with black accessories then what’s up with all the imagery we see in Security Breach? We constantly see him with black clothing in all of the items we can collect in the game featuring him. If anything, it almost feels like the modern games are trying to emphasize the fact Fredbear didn’t always have purple on him, which would mean Stage 01 doesn’t have to represent a version of him with purple either, which would include him in FNAF 4, therefore implying this probably has nothing to do with what we see in that game.
Furthermore, we have to ask ourselves what did Scott have in mind by the time of FNAF 3? If I’m not mistaken, that was meant to be the final game in the entire franchise. If that’s the case, then how were we meant to figure out the kid missing in Stage 01 got killed by Fredbear? There’s nothing really pointing towards this conclusion besides the fact Fredbear can move around, but at the same time this is for fairly obvious gameplay purposes and may have little to nothing to do with the incident implied in the minigame itself. Something to also consider is that Happiest Day relating to the memories of BV only seemed to have been added after FNAF 4 came out, so even with him in mind later on there’s still the fact that Stage 01 originally seemed to have nothing to do with him at all, which means the missing kid may also just represent and/or be someone else entirely. The only way I can see this being related to BV is if Scott himself had no idea what happened to this kid, which is certainly possibly as he does like to give stuff actual meaning if they didn’t originally have anything as later games come out, but this was meant to be the conclusion to everything. Yes Happiest Day and its minigames were given new meaning later on, but that’s giving context or purpose to something which obviously didn’t have any instead of an entire incident which may have had some kind of relevance already.
And the last thing I’d like to mention is that I don’t think the Fredbear’s we see in FNAF 4 was the first stage we see in Stage 01 or possibly even the first location at all. We don’t even know if Fredbear’s started out with animatronics, but even if they did we know the establishment has been around since the 70s, and judging by there being stuff such as “singing shows” by the time, I think it’s far more likely that what we see in FNAF 4 wouldn’t be the same as the original iteration of the performance.
So what do I think Stage 01 and the disappearing kid means? I don’t know. Like the easiest answer is that it just represents Fritz as we see him later on in the minigame, but there’s at least some issues with that such as a questionable amount of correlation between the two and the lack of this seemingly happening in other minigames in FNAF 3 featuring the MCI. Otherwise I don’t have many ideas, especially since we don’t know if this kid going missing has any plot relevance beyond it maybe causing the original Fredbear’s to close.
I’d love to hear what you guys think though and thank you for reading this far. Have a great day!
I thought I might as well share this cover I made for a post since it’s a funny Sonic Adventure 2 reference and it’s mostly on topic for this subreddit since it is by definition a meme based on a theory.
To shortly summarize tho, I think there’s the 50% chance we may see OMC again or even get some more OMC lore in this game due to the water and/or pool theming, along with all the references and appearances OMC has had in recent games.
Just wanted to make this since I’m busy later today and I didn’t really see a point in waiting to make this until tomorrow. I hope you all have a great day!
Just wanted to make this since I’m busy later today and I didn’t really see a point in waiting to make this until tomorrow. I hope you all have a great day!
What narrative purposes does this have? I don’t fully know yet. Maybe it’s meant to be because they’re kids from opposite owners of the same company, but that could honestly be a stretch and possibly even ignoring some kind of bigger meaning we may not know of as of yet. I’d love to hear what you guys think and I hope you all have a great day!
What narrative purposes does this have? I don’t fully know yet. Maybe it’s meant to be because they’re kids from opposite owners of the same company, but that could honestly be a stretch and possibly even ignoring some kind of bigger meaning we may not know of as of yet. I’d love to hear what you guys think and I hope you all have a great day!