Gut training w/o breaking the bank

What methods do you use to practice taking a lot of gels (and finding if/when your body will start rejecting gels) for ultra training without spending $40 per long run (and if you do back-to-back LRs then the price gets crazy).

I tend to just use cheap carb drinks like Gatorade an like 2 gels even on 3-6hr runs. Do you just do this one day a week once a month? Do you dedicate the money every few weeks to practice your full race nutrition profile? Do you end up spending a good chunk of money? Have you added aid station food like chips into your long run training?

Also random bonus question: do you test things like Imodium or is that strictly for race day emergencies?

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u/Objective-Week275 — 1 day ago

Mountain legs: treadmill vs stairmaster debate

Of course getting real vert is best. But for those indoor days (too hot, too cold, raining, etc), what do you feel has had the biggest impact on being good at long slogging climbs uphill?

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u/Objective-Week275 — 3 days ago

Best ice bandana?

Hey!

I am looking for ice bandanas but haven’t bought one before and not sure what makes one better than the other and wanted to see if you guys had any ones that stand out.

Some quick things I noticed to look for: bounce, not too long of ties, wide zipper, large capacity, light colored, materials?

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u/Objective-Week275 — 3 days ago

Outdoor wear Tailors

Hey all!

**Specifics**: I have some running gear I want to make some modifications to and wondered if anyone had either people/places in mind (in SLC) that they’ve used before.

**Concerns**: The one thing I get a little nervous about is it’s pricy stuff and all those lightweight materials so not sure if that’s much harder to work with and if they’ll be able to order the right materials for the mods I’m looking for.

**note**: Idk why this was removed twice by the SLC mod not understanding my post, but I’m looking for a tailor in SLC ideally but I guess I’ll keep it more general here.. plus yall are actually smart in this topics vs random local recommendations :) you guys rock

Mods: #1: I have a new ideas, one is taking a specific hat and making it an Ice hat (you have pockets to stuff with ice and snap/velcro closed. Also add a snap on (removable) neck protector for UV protection. Hat is 100% Polyester

#2: add little channel for ice in arm sleeves (they’re to protect from UV and heat management - basically just super lightweight long sleeves that end at the shoulder and go from the wrist. 84% recycled polyester, 16% spandex.

#3: add a chest pocket/liner on a very specific runner shirt with very weird material (basically a mesh shirt but just bigger holes - like the size of a small marble) . 100% Polyester

u/Objective-Week275 — 4 days ago

Tailors in SLC

Hey all!

TLDR: Looking for a tailor in SLC for outdoor wear

Specifics: I have some running gear I want to make some modifications to and wondered if anyone had either people/places in mind (in SLC) that they’ve used before.

Concerns: The one thing I get a little nervous about is it’s pricy stuff and all those lightweight materials so not sure if that’s much harder to work with and if they’ll be able to order the right materials for the mods I’m looking for.

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u/Objective-Week275 — 4 days ago

Pool buoy hard to use

Ok so what the heck.. I thought the pool buoy would be easy to slap on and go. Man was I wrong. I feel like I went back to day 1 of swimming. Is that normal? Maybe my body position was so bad that this is forcing that to come to light?

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u/Objective-Week275 — 6 days ago

Heat training methods

So I’m of the opinion that Sauna is good but it’s not going to make you much more tolerant of heat during a long, hard race.

Do you guys do active heat training and find that’s better? Or just stack long runs during the hotter part of the day?

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u/Objective-Week275 — 11 days ago

Broken Arrow 46k

Is it me or does that electric atmosphere make all that training feel like it was worth every drop of sweat?

u/Objective-Week275 — 16 days ago

Anyone else’s nose run a lot?

Anyone else run through a lot of tissues during an early start in the cold at altitude? Any mega finds on how to not carry 2 packs of tissues lol. I know seems silly but it’s kinda annoying. Anyone use like a handkerchief or something? Just annoying to have to play around with tissues and hope I don’t fall when I look away for a second and have to do that like 50 times in a run.

Edit: dear trail running community, I believe with all these rockets.. we could fly to the moon if we all synced up our booster snot rockets. Turns out, America doesn’t need NASA, they need US. 🤧🫡🚀🌕

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u/Objective-Week275 — 25 days ago

Training plan sources

Hey! How do you guys select training plans? Do you use training peaks, and/or a mix of self made workouts. Ex. Running has a lot of info out there and you can just use a jack Daniel’s workout plan for running but swimming is a bit harder to program if you didn’t grow up a swimmer.

Or do you just get a coach and let them do it for you while you just track progress on TP?

Curious on how people’s methods differ and what they find works.

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u/Objective-Week275 — 27 days ago

Fastpacking

Hi UL gang!

I have not decided to enter this realm of burning money on hobbies yet so forgive the n00b question.

I fastpack (basically running with very minimal support gear). I am looking to prepare for the TMB but I feel I need to really start putting more time into creating an UL ‘ecosystem’.

Gear is pretty much a 12-20L running vest, 2 500ml soft flasks, a 3L external bladder for water filtering (i don’t use all 3L but I have the storage capacity in case it’s a long hot day between water). I use a water bladder 2L in the vest. Basics like hygiene, small med kit, comms, e-bivy, etc (basic stuff for a hut to hut travel).

Any tips on easy UL gear/techniques to could learn from?

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u/Objective-Week275 — 29 days ago

Adult swim classes

Hello! Looking for adult swim classes ideally near downtown area. I know how to generally swim but looking to actually learn technique and eventually do a triathlon in like a year or so.

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u/Objective-Week275 — 1 month ago

7yo husky training

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I have a husky and she’s 7 but still fulll of energy. She never lost her puppy energy. I’d like to bring her running with me but I’m scared to let her off leash. Any tips?

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u/Objective-Week275 — 1 month ago

Swim journey: noob -> race

Curious on peoples journey from no swim experience to doing full/half IM.

I picked swim up since it’s a popular thing pushed for running cross training and though well that could be cool to slowly build into an IM. Well… swim may very well be the hardest section of IM, come to find out.

How’d you progress and how long did it take to get ok and to get to race ready? *and then add open water which is way harder + a ton of people .. brutal*

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u/Objective-Week275 — 1 month ago

Newbie: program for mountain athletes?

Hi yall, I was recommended to try TB for my mix of goals. I don’t lift right now but really need to but balancing being sore from lifts and that hurting my running is a concern. Currently working on half/full marathon (for aerobic base), trail running with lots of vert (for vertical endurance for mountaineering), and rock climbing (for alpinism). I want to add rucking to make my trail days a bit more specific to my goals. And I run around 60-70 miles a week.

I must admit, I’m a bit confused on how to get started and what I should be paying attention to. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

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u/Objective-Week275 — 1 month ago

Weight stable yet running a lot

Hey! So I know all the basic weight loss stuff so let’s skip that part. I’ve run 100k kcals this year so far, about 6 lbs of fat burned from running per month, 10,000 mins of training, 830 miles YTD. I haven’t lifted really that much so mostly running and trail running more recently.

So I’ll do a huge day like I did this weekend: 24 miles, 7k vert, 10 hrs at 8k ft = says like 4K cals. I fuel but there’s no way I can take in 4K calories. Maybe 1500. Pretty much no weight change. Is that inflammation? I feel like it takes a few days before I see the number go down.

But more generally is my question- how have I burned 29 lbs this year so far and I’m the same weight within 2 lbs. I feel like I noticed my core is looking for shredded so have I stealthy been putting on leg mass and not realized bit? Ohvi not near 30lbs lol. I assume a hidden thing is running makes you more hungry so it’s easy to “over eat” but I’m also not trying to diet down per se, I’d rather me recovering well and being able to hit workouts hard and not feel flat from calorie restriction.

Anyone else experience this? It’s prob super common if I had to guess.

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u/Objective-Week275 — 1 month ago