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We sew trail running vests in our own factory. What would you change about the one you run in now?

Full disclosure first: I work at LECAMO, a small trail vest brand. Our vests are made in our own sewing factory, so when runners tell us something is wrong, we can actually change the pattern for the next batch. No links here, not selling anything in this thread.

We're planning the next round of changes and I'd rather hear from people who put real miles on their vests than guess. A few questions, answer any or all (numbers are fine):

  1. What's the one thing that annoys you most about your current vest? Bounce, chafing, flasks you can't reach, a phone pocket that doesn't fit your phone?
  2. For a 50K, do you run with soft flasks up front, a bladder in the back, or both? Why?
  3. What size do you actually use most: 5L, 8L, 12L or bigger? Did you end up with more capacity than you needed?
  4. Women and smaller runners: does a unisex cut work for you, or does a women-specific cut matter?
  5. Where do you want your phone: front pocket, back, or somewhere else?
  6. If you could add one small feature that no vest gets right, what would it be?

I'll read every reply and come back with what we heard, including the stuff that's hard to hear.

Happy trails 🏔️

u/lecamo-official — 5 days ago

Questions for night runners

How many torches do you use?

How many lumens are they?

How long do your batteries last?

What's your recommendation for running during 12 hours of darkness?

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u/--craig-- — 8 days ago

What UTMB branding did to Zugspitz Ultratrail entry fees (2025 → 2027)

I pulled together the entry fees for the Zugspitz Ultratrail (ZUT) over the last three editions. Quick context: 2025 was still the independent ZUT. 2026 was the first edition as "ZUT by UTMB", still with the old sponsors. 2027 is the first fully UTMB-run edition.

A few things stand out:

  • 2026 was the soft landing. Early-bird prices were roughly flat vs 2025, and some were even cheaper. Tiered quotas then pushed late prices up by 35–95%.
  • 2027 starts above the highest 2026 tier. The 2027 fee is basically where the most expensive 2026 tier ended, or well above it.
  • Short races got hit hardest in relative terms. The Grainau Trail (16km) went from €45 to €120. The entry-level race used to be the low-barrier option for locals and first-timers, and it isn't anymore.

Race 2025 2026 early bird 2026 4th quota 2027 Δ 25→27
ZUT 100 167km €280 €283 €382 €386 +38%
Ultratrail 108km €180 €185 €251 €326 +81%
Ehrwald 86km €160 €164 €224 €300 +88%
Leutasch 68km €140 €114 €185 €220 +57%
Mittenwald 44km €120 €93 €141 €166 +38%
GaPa 29km €90 €77 €131 €146 +62%
Grainau 16km €45 €53 €104 €120 +167%
u/starcki — 8 days ago

No Dumb Question Day: Trail Running Edition

How do I find local trails? Is trail running safe? Do I need special shoes or gear? What do I do if I encounter some wildlife? What if I get lost? WHAT IF I HAVE TO POOP IN THE WOODS?

There are no dumb questions in this thread! If you are new to trail running or if you are a veteran who just wants to hear how other trail runners do things, ask away. If you have some ideas that can help your fellow trail runners and future trail runners, pitch in some answers.

No Dumb Question Day will be a regular, biweekly feature on the trailrunning sub.

**Thanks for participating!** Any questions, [please message your helpful mods](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2Ftrailrunning).

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u/effortDee — 8 days ago
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Flagstaff Marathon

Ran the Flagstaff Marathon 10/03/26 at the Arizona Nordic Village. It’s an all trail marathon. It consists of two main loops (south 6 & north 7). You run the loops twice each for a grand total of 26 miles. The race coordinators tell you ahead of time that your GPS might read longer or shorter than 26.2 miles. I used an Apple Watch SE and my Garmin Forerunner 235 to measure. Sure enough, Apple says I ran 26.5 while Garmin says I ran 25.9 and then the Garmin asked me if I was done an hour after the race! (Standard Garmin)

Expect unstable terrain and some modestly steep climbs between miles 1-2, 3-5, 10-12. Then when you repeat the loops, those hills become more difficult somehow. The signs are easy enough to follow, but the waves of other runners gets confusing if you’re following a pack of runners. Full marathoners start at 8am, half marathon at 9am, 10k at 11am. There were two more waves of people that my pack of runners never saw. The other waves blended into the full marathoners, but the course never felt crowded.

The elevation is something you can train for and get acclimated to, but it still remains a factor. I arrived in Flag 4 days before race day. Elevation manifested as cramping & consistent headache for my experience. I used a hydration pack and used aid stations for consistent electrolyte intake. Cramping still happened. The Aid Stations were pretty spread out, but they were clutch when it counted.

It can be a pretty lonely course if you fall behind your pack of people/pacers. My previous marathons were Los Angeles & Honolulu which were packed with spectators and aid stations or just people handing out supplies to runners. No comparison to Flag, but it was a great experience to run without the chaos and noise. The scenery was consistently gorgeous, the air was as crisp/clean as possible, and the temperature never got above 65 degrees according to my NOAA apps.

Run the Flagstaff Marathon if you want a real challenge in your life. If you’re not from Flag, that makes it all the more challenging. You’ll be jumping over fallen trees, hiking up muddy hills, watching your footing through trails covered in pine cones, and navigating the course looking for tiny red/orange flagging. Worth it.

u/pmacattack68 — 7 days ago

Ciele GOcapPYN-2 vs Black Diamond Desert Mullet

Anybody have experience with either of these hats? Need the extra UV protection on my neck/ears and prefer not to use a sun hoodie. Not a ton of reviews online. Let me know your experience 🤙

u/maitreya88 — 8 days ago

Trailing after heavy rain

Loved the temperature (cool, but not cold), the quietness and the landscape. No photo has been edited.

Lovedn't the mud, the unjumpable ponds...

u/Opening_Teaching_377 — 8 days ago