Turns out League does force 50% wr like Wild Rift, and more questionable things

Turns out League does force 50% wr like Wild Rift, and more questionable things

I'm new to League, coming from Wild Rift. So far this is my first week in ranked https://op.gg/lol/summoners/vn/Leona%20is%20da%20bezt-sword.

I used to think that League would be far better than Wild Rift, as I would go near my actual rank without much sweat and the win rate would go high until it shall stabilize towards 50% as I approach my actual rank.

Somehow, I ended up at Bronze 4 after my 5 provisional games, and after 40 games at 50% wr, somehow I netted +400 LP because each win is like 3 times a loss and now I'm on track to beat some Gold players as well. But I just don't get it that why I wouldn't be starting at Silver in the first place, nor why does the game force 50% win rate by "attempting" to carry weaker players, when it could just give me actual teammates, a higher win rate to get to where I should be faster? I thought League would be more competitive than Wild Rift, why making me sweat like so?

These things don't match with what I got from r/summonerschool, wiki nor ChatGPT at all.

u/PAFFNeko-8a — 1 day ago

Mấy năm nay hết hứng thú coi anime

Hồi trước lúc cấp 2-3 còn ngồi coi, thời đó có Conan và mấy thứ trên TV, về sau thì lên Internet cày Clannad, Lucky Star, Sangatsu no lion, v.v. Một ngày cuối tuần có thể cày liền 20+ tập.

H thì gần như chẳng xem, một là xem phim hành động hoặc thriller, series như Dr.House vs Trigger (Cò súng) của Hàn, đôi khi thì đọc manga chứ anime thì gần như ko coi nổi tập 2.

Hỏi bạn bè thì tụi nó giới thiệu Baki, Shokugeki no Soma, hay cả mấy season mới lẫn cũ của Jojo mà coi nó... hài nhảm hoặc fan service nhạt nhẽo. Lần cuối mà mình cày một bộ chắc là Carol & Tuesday, off mấy năm rồi hóng Bocchi cho vui vui rồi off mấy năm tiếp.

Là do anime giờ cái pace nó chậm quá hay sao nhỉ?

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 3 days ago

The pressure of engaging as an engage support.

Now first and foremost: I main Leona and specialize in engage supports in general. Of course, one of the main aspects of League is team fights, and it's about starting a good engage, which is not mechanically difficult but always hold a ton of mental pressure and paying attention to so many details at once. Like... you can make as many good engages, but one bad engage in late game usually means the game getting flipped upside down.

How do other engage support mains overcome this pressure and mentality thing without feeling hard stuck and possibly numb?

I feel like the higher in rank I go, the more seeming infinite number of details I have to note down at all times, that sometimes I get too stressed from playing as the engager, I'd switch to queue top or jungle in the next ranked game. Even when I do play playmaking tanks in top and jungle, that doesn't feel as stressful as support. At some time I'm too stressed mid-game, I just refuse to find engage windows and just wait until someone else does then I'd follow, while teammates are pinging me and telling me to start a fight.

And even counter-engaging (or reactive engaging) like Braum and Alistar just feels a lot easier.

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 17 days ago
▲ 3 r/Draven

As a tank support main, I feel like I lose a lot playing aside Draven (not about tilting)

It feels like I'm always in a rush of making him fed, playing too aggressively, too rushed, including diving (and overstaying in) turrets and overestimating Draven's damage and passive gold by a mile, then turns to getting stomped in lane and in game instead.

I don't have VODs but I'm up for tips about his matchups against other ADCs, that might help a lot for me in knowing when to engage, or when to even flash-engage, aside from other common things. I've practiced him a couple of games (about 30 lately), as he was the very first champion I unlocked when I started this game, but it's definitely far from optimizing axe juggling and (burst) damage.

And plus... due to how he works, can/should I run enchanters at times?

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 21 days ago

How do high elo support mains deal with teammates' horrible decision making?

Now the main reason I'm specifically mentioning high elo here is that while it's true that Challenger players can be a whole dimension apart from Master or GM players, but those little things to win lane would not mean a lot if teammates have poor decisions during midgame and late game where each error could be huge, meanwhile in lower elo people tend to make 100+ mistakes during lane so taking advantage of that would allow you to crush lanes easily. And high elo usually means spamming a ton of games, since results in tiny skills and advantages do matter in a huge sample of games.

Genuinely, aside from warding strategically and pinging, is there really a way to prevent teammates from throwing at important times, especially right before objectives? And can you really prevent teammates from taking unwinnable fights in these elos?

Plus, how can you guys deal with mental fatigue while having to spam games?

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 24 days ago

How do I fix my mentality of getting too used to winning?

I'm too used to having win rate above 60%, now I feel somewhat dreadful as I rank up as my win rate starts to decline.

I get it: I stomp lower elo players, I rank up, I get harder opponents, less room to carry and such. But given that I have always despised spamming games to my true rank, maybe I have never tried to do so actually, except when I started playing this game. As my seasonal win rate starts to get lower, and I get more and more loss streaks, I just feel demotivated to play ranked, so I would drive away from playing League for the rest of the season OR I rush through ranks during the final weeks until so.

Btw, I still have YET to know my true rank as of now. All I know is it's higher than Plat 2, at like 55-60% wr over last 50 games or so of that season.

I know smurfing would never be a right answer but... yeah I need a good mentality switch. Any solutions?

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 1 month ago

Dude, support in Wild Rift is actually horrible compared to League

What do you have in Wild Rift? Support item doesn't give any ward and shop doesn't sell wards so you have basically the same vision control power as much as your teammates.

Laning phase is much faster as turret plates drop as the 1st dragon spawns, minions are squishy, turrets are squishy (even with plates on) so you pretty much have no option of roaming early if you find your ADC a complete waste of effort, unless at least you can roam a bit to mid after running from your base due to the homeguard bonus movement speed.

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 1 month ago

When is it dangerous to go against the majority?

I just realized that one of my main methods of learning is basically realizing something seemingly out of the ordinary, then challenge the majority of people with supported evidence, logics and stuff into extended arguments. I dare to question what the majority believe, but for ignorance, curiosity, bravery or stupidity? No idea.

I kinda get that this would irritate so many people, but for some reason I'd be like "If I may look at in others' eyes to learn something worth the tradeoff, I'd do it." I have angered my relatives, my parents, my peers, my bosses, and possibly so many Internet randos and even pros in games even though I don't care that much.

I just don't find another method to get information corrected as quickly, some could suggest ChatGPT for this matter but the tool has its own limits.

I don't know if this is unconventional or not, nor if people have experienced stuff like this. But if people do, I just wanna know when to stop. It seems like I've turned to be addicted to this or sth.

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 1 month ago

What do you guys feel when you lose to troll support picks due to things out of your control?

I mean like... people can get to Plat but don't know how to analyze Tryndamere support, then feeds him and makes traditional supports look useless.

Sometimes I just don't know anymore.

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 2 months ago

I hate how low-elo ADCs overrate AP Malphite with Comet

I know this is Bronze/Silver level stuff, but it's year 2026 already, I've done my best to convince ADCs from the fountain that Malphite's Q poke is somewhat trash and mana-costly, so just go on a longer trade whenever possible, especially when on Lethal Tempo / Conq and that I have correct shielding plus I also bring Heal.

Still, they play too passively, allowing Malphite to reach lv6 spike with little punishment despite my best to aggressively trade and draw enemies' attention onto myself, then one wombo combo and ADC straight up dies.

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 3 months ago

Best support champions for autofilling top lane?

Yeah this is gonna be like 0.2% of the games, but somehow I just got into a case where I got top, asked for support/jungle but declined, and I couldn't dodge (yeah you know what I'm talking about), yet my favorite Nautilus was banned, TWICE in last 30 games.

Tanks are either mana-hungry (Nautilus) or I get beaten up at every 1v1 interaction, but at least I could (barely) survive with Nautilus. So I'm thinking of a ranged, but preferably not some Janna smite top (or any similar) but if it's the last resort.

So... Nami, Seraphine? What do you guys say?

P/S: yeah I know some games are just unwinnable anyways; at times it's just better to take the bitter pill.

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 3 months ago

I'm a support main and I do have a good amount of experience in ADC (Plat in this role). Every now and then I just like to blind pick Lux in ranked and have fun while trying to win.

I completely get the hate on Lux support, mainly because of their war crimes on messing up wave, throwing skillshots like crap and positioning as if ADC is the meatshield instead.

The thing is it doesn't matter how much I've been better at Lux support and avoiding those in general, even communicating beforehand that I'd like to pick Lux (not before banning phase to avoid getting Lux banned). It's a shame some just wanna ruin others' fun.

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u/PAFFNeko-8a — 4 months ago