Libvirt allocation of CPU cores

I have virtualized UNRAID using Libvirt on Fedora. My question is on the CPU core allocations. I have the 8600G (6 cores, 12 threads).

If I want to allocate the absolute minimum, i.e. one physical core, does that mean I need to pass on two CPU cores? For example, cores 5 and 10 on my CPU are linked to the same physical core, so would I need to pass on both 5 and 10 to the VM for optimal performance?

At the OS level I seem to be unable to discern a physical core and hyperthread core through any system tool output, because I guess they are both virtual threads and neither is physical. I guess the OS also sees the cores virtualized by the CPU itself.

If I allocated just one core, say core 5, leaving core 10 for the host, would this be suboptimal and affect performance?

In the same vein, if I wanted to allocate two physical cores, does that means I need to pass on 4 threads to the VM?

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 9 days ago

Undervolting 8600g + Asrock B650M HDV/m.2

My memory is the Lexar Thor 6000 CL36.

I've applied negative 25 to the CPU curve optimizer and 1.18 to the SOC VDD, and it seems to be stable running prime95 (mprime). Measuring 30-35W at the wall.

Has anyone tried undervolting a similar setup? I'm trying to figure out what type of numbers I can realistically take this down to. I'm just incrementally lowering each voltage day by day and testing as much as I can.

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 12 days ago
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Can I run my CPU cooler in a semi passively?

Trying to run an always-on server here and keep idle power as low as possible. The CPU is an 8600G with Asrock B650m HDV/m.2.

After doing some undervolting of the SOC and PBO curve my idle wattage is about 35 to 42W at the wall. I'm still working to reduce voltage though, testing the system day by day.

The idea is to have the CPU fan simply stop at a temperature of under 60 degrees Celsius, which is what the server might operate at doing the light work it usually does. Once the temperature goes above 60 I want the CPU fan to start working.

I tried setting the CPU fan governor to Custom and 0 power at 60 degrees, and 50% fan speed at 70 degrees. I assumed that this would lead to a completely stopped fan at any temperature under 60, but the fan still runs at around 900RPM even at a temperature of 50 degrees.

I will try looking at the Fantastic and Fan tuning settings next, but by my reckoning Custom settings should be superior, and I'm just wondering if stopping the fan is even possible and if it has been tried before.

If not, I might try connecting the CPU fan to the Case Fan 2 output. This works because I know for sure that I can completely stop Case Fan 1 when "CPU Temps" are less than 70 degrees.

I'm currently using the stock Wraith Stealth. But I also have the Thermalright Full Copper AXP90-X53 which is a substantially better cooler, equal to or better than the Wraith Spire. If the Wraith Stealth fails for this semi-passive approach I will switch to the better cooler.

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 12 days ago
▲ 0 r/Undervolting+1 crossposts

Undervolting 8600g + Asrock B650M HDV/m.2

My memory is the Lexar Thor 6000 CL36.

I've applied negative 25 to the CPU curve optimizer and 1.18 to the SOC VDD, and it seems to be stable running prime95 (mprime). Measuring 30-35W at the wall.

Has anyone tried undervolting a similar setup? I'm trying to figure out what type of numbers I can realistically take this down to. I'm just incrementally lowering each voltage day by day and testing as much as I can.

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 12 days ago
▲ 4 r/unRAID

Unassigned partition - can it be used in the cache pool?

I installed an NVME in my unRAID box, and installed Fedora within a partition. A part of the drive is unassigned.

When booting unRAID I see the NVME as an unassigned drive, but it is not clear to me if what is visible is the partition or the whole drive.

I understand that assigning the unassigned partition to the array would not be possible as unRAID needs the whole drive. Is it possible to assigned the unassigned partition to the cache pool though? Appreciate any advice.

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 27 days ago

SS is a program designed to let you place the heaviest weight known to man on a shelf up top

Serge Redding's 502lbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nJrYPVJ88M

I believe Rip's dream is for someone to press a weight properly, with no form shenanigans, and only the hip bounce.

All the other lifts, the deadlift, squat, power cleans or power snatches, bench press etc. are all designed to just get the press moving. The press is the necessary outcome of all this foundational work.

A heavy press is the badge of a successful SS program follower.

u/Phlame_Retardant — 1 month ago

1 psu 2 systems

I am trying to understand the logic of how the PS-On signal works with the motherboard, and I would appreciate some help here.

The purpose is to see if I can share my overpowered PSU with another system. The PSU has ample capacity to take on both systems at once.

If I have two systems plugged into one PSU (via an ATX splitter cable), what would happen if the power switch was toggled, under the following scenarios?

Scenario A: Both systems are off. System 1 power switch is pressed. System 1 powers on. Will System 2 power on as well?

Scenario B. Both systems are on. System 1 power switch is pressed. System 1 powers down. Will System 2 power down as well?

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 1 month ago
▲ 3 r/sffpc

Help me choose between these PicoPSUs

I am trying to build a small NAS. The specs are 8600G, 32GB RAM (2 stick kit), Asrock B650M HDV/m.2, 1x NVME, 4x 3.5" HDDs, 2x case fans.

I have purchased the LMF200-23B12UH for the AC-DC (12V) conversion. I plan to connect the CPU power directly to this brick~~, so that component can be subtracted from overall power requirements~~. For the remainder I calculate a maximum of 200W during startup/spin-up (assuming 50% headroom and being a bit conservative with the numbers).

I am torn between the following. They are priced about the same:

  1. Rgeek 12V 300W

Pros: Does not plug into the MB, so there is flexibility of positioning within the case. But whether it can produce 300W, or even 200W is a bit of a question as the amperage would seem high.

  1. Pico-Box Z2-ATX-200

Pros: Plugs into the MB so saves some real-estate, but lost flexibility of positioning. Supplier is the same as HDPlex so quality might be better. Review here suggests decent performance: https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/atari/last/pico/index.htm

Which one should I go for? Is there any other DC-ATX model I could consider?

Edit: misstated power requirement

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 2 months ago
▲ 3 r/unRAID

Could I do this using UNRAID VMs

Could this plan work:

Run UNRAID on an 8600G CPU (no GPU), and run it in console model - i.e. access the GUI using web interface only.

Create two VMs for Windows and one for Linux.

Run all VMs remotely and simultaneously using a web interface.

If this works, could I also play games using the web interface on one or two of the VMs simultaneously, since the iGPU on the 8600G has a reasonable amount of heft for light titles?

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 2 months ago

Barefoot office shoes - Tried Vivobarefoot RAII and the Groundies Pallermo

I need shoes similar to the RAII and Pallermo, but that will also give me more than 6 months of sole life. A similar upper (serviceable in an office setting) but thicker, hardier soles. I don't mind sacrificing sole flexibility as long as I get the wider toebox. Can anyone recommend me something?

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 2 months ago
▲ 10 r/Proxmox

New hardware setup question

I purchased an 8600G with 32GB of memory. No experience with proxmox hence I am asking this question.

I'm thinking of installing proxmox and setting up UNRAID, Bazzite and Windows VMs.

Since this is an APU only build I'm guessing I can't run more than one VM simultaneously, as the iGPU can only be used by one VM at a time.

Can I programme Proxmox to shut down other VMs automatically and start up UNRAID nightly, for backup, syncing, parity runs etc.?

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 2 months ago
▲ 1 r/unRAID

Bought some new hardware - VM question

Thinking of moving my old UNRAID setup on to it. I don't have a dedicated GPU. Can I run Bazzite, Windows VMs on it, or do I need to have a dgpu to pass on to the VMs?

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 2 months ago

New to VMs - Need hardware advice

I have an HTPC hooked up to the living room TV and a computer monitor nearby. It's an old machine using a 2200G. The kids use this to play games on TV (with controllers) and, at other times, my wife and I use the second display for web browsing, research, office productivity stuff etc.

I've been thinking about replacing this PC and using the 2200G for my server (currently running UNRAID on an i3-2100, but there's been recent stability issues warranting upgrade).

For a replacement I've been looking at the 8500G, 8600G and 8700G, and I am bit torn between all three of them. I'm thinking the new build will serve the same purpose as the current 2200G (TV gaming/productivity), but I also want to try VMs as a way to maximize utility.

According to AI, I could install Bazzite baremetal and install the VMs Linux Mint and Windows 11 without a problem. I could them presumably access these VMs either through a direct display connection or via LAN (I'm not sure .

Windows 11 seems to need at least 4 threads. So if I go with the 8500G or 8600G (6c/12t), that would leave 8 threads for Bazzite and Mint. Six threads for Bazzite and two threads for Mint would be a likely configuration. Alternatively, with the 8700G I would be able to do 4, 6, 4 for Windows, Bazzite and Mint respectively.

The 8700G is substantially more expensive compared to the 8600G, but if the VM plan seems too optimistic with 6 cores then I will just go with the 8700G.

If 6 cores is not too much of a stretch for VMs that would mean I could adopt the 8600G or 8500G. In this case the 8600G would seem to present better value: Much better iGPU gaming and overall muscle. But the 8500G is alluring in its own right because of the apparent highly efficient Zen 4C cores - leading to lower idle power and peak current. I suppose the 8600G would not be inefficient either but I could not find much research on this.

Power efficiency is something I value because, eventually, in some years perhaps when it's time to upgrade once again, I would make use of this CPU as a replacement for the 2200G as a 24/7 server. Such interesting power characteristics could possibly allow for a much more efficient power supply solution (e.g. using 160W picoPSUs and the like, with idle and peak power consumption within more optimum efficiency bands).

I've no experience actually using VMs, but given the high cost of hardware, I thought it might be worth a try making use of one computer to serve multiple purposes around the house or even through the network while moving around. Appreciate any thoughts.

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 2 months ago

New to VMs - Need hardware advice

I have an HTPC hooked up to the living room TV and a computer monitor nearby. It's an old machine using a 2200G. The kids use this to play games on TV (with controllers) and, at other times, my wife and I use the second display for web browsing, research, office productivity stuff etc.

I've been thinking about replacing this PC and using the 2200G for my server (currently running UNRAID on an i3-2100, but there's been recent stability issues warranting upgrade).

For a replacement I've been looking at the 8500G, 8600G and 8700G, and I am bit torn between all three of them. I'm thinking the new build will serve the same purpose as the current 2200G (TV gaming/productivity), but I also want to try VMs as a way to maximize utility.

According to AI, I could install Bazzite baremetal and install the VMs Linux Mint and Windows 11 without a problem. I could them presumably access these VMs either through a direct display connection or via LAN (I'm not sure .

Windows 11 seems to need at least 4 threads. So if I go with the 8500G or 8600G (6c/12t), that would leave 8 threads for Bazzite and Mint. Six threads for Bazzite and two threads for Mint would be a likely configuration. Alternatively, with the 8700G I would be able to do 4, 6, 4 for Windows, Bazzite and Mint respectively.

The 8700G is substantially more expensive compared to the 8600G, but if the VM plan seems too optimistic with 6 cores then I will just go with the 8700G.

If 6 cores is not too much of a stretch for VMs that would mean I could adopt the 8600G or 8500G. In this case the 8600G would seem to present better value: Much better iGPU gaming and overall muscle. But the 8500G is alluring in its own right because of the apparent highly efficient Zen 4C cores - leading to lower idle power and peak current. I suppose the 8600G would not be inefficient either but I could not find much research on this.

Power efficiency is something I value because, eventually, in some years perhaps when it's time to upgrade once again, I would make use of this CPU as a replacement for the 2200G as a 24/7 server. Such interesting power characteristics could possibly allow for a much more efficient power supply solution (e.g. using 160W picoPSUs and the like, with idle and peak power consumption within more optimum efficiency bands).

I've no experience actually using VMs, but given the high cost of hardware, I thought it might be worth a try making use of one computer to serve multiple purposes around the house or even through the network while moving around. Appreciate any thoughts.

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 2 months ago

Need some help. New to bases.

I want to create a base file as a Daily Note template

The base file should look at my vault and filter in notes that have the same date as what is in the base file name (the Daily Note plugin creates a note with today's date on it in the format 2026-05-22 xxx).

How do I set this up?

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 3 months ago
▲ 1 r/PcBuildHelp+1 crossposts

Split a PSU?

My Unraid server has a very low idle power consumption at around 30W at the wall.

It's running off very old hardware, Sandy Bridge, and the PSU is a 400W FSP Aurum 80+ Gold. Possibly around 15 years old.

Since I've been having some instability of late I thought I may as well upgrade the PSU and see if that helps.

The difficulty is that, with such low idle power consumption any conventional off-the-shelf PSU would have a wattage of around 350 at the minimum. 30 Watts from a 350W is less than 10% of the capacity. At 10% use, I'm guessing most PSUs would have a pretty low efficiency of 75% or less. The higher the PSU wattage, the less efficient it is at these low powers.

The surge consumption, on startup, would theoretically be around 240W. The server has four 3.5" HDDs, one SSD and two RAMs. This is only theoretical though. My measurement device just picks up close to a 100W at the wall, but it likely is too slow to pick up the spike.

Anyway, I have pondered splitting the power supply up, by using a picoPSU style DC-ATX board for CPU+motherboard+RAM, and run the rest off a 12V supply.

The image in this link shows four scenarios. https://ibb.co/CpB2fwYg

The first is for the system today, with the whole system running off the 400W PSU. On idle, the assumed efficiency is 60% for 5% usage (very old PSU). On surge, the efficiency improves to 70% for 41% usage.

The second is for mixing up old and new. The HDDs run off the 400W supply with the idle efficiency even lower at 50%. The CPU et al consume just 14W, but off a 120W picoPSU, which is about 12% of usage, it presumably has a higher efficiency of around 75%. Surge is under control. Comparing energy savings you are looking at about 3.3W.

The third is for a 150W setup for both CPU et al and HDDs, both handled individually. The usage is 9% and 3% on idle, and assuming a higher 70% efficiency, the total energy savings is around 4.3W.

The fourth is similar to the third except I use 120W instead, so the usage is higher, efficiencies are better and savings around 6W.

I'm not sure what hardware might work for this. I would appreciate any suggestions.

Also if the logic is meaningful that would be good to confirm. Appreciate the feedback.

u/Phlame_Retardant — 3 months ago
▲ 1 r/datastorage+1 crossposts

NVME drive error

I have a 128GB Transcend NVME drive with Windows 10 installed on it. Intermittently I get a black screen with a "Reboot and select proper boot device" error. Powering down and powering back up again after a few seconds usually resolves the problem and it remains stable. But the error has gotten more frequent over the last few weeks.

This is the second motherboard in which i'm using with this NVME drive. The previous one also gave the same error but only on booting cold. Again restarting was the solution then as well. So based off the error on two motherboards I'm guessing this is a drive problem and possibly getting worse with age. I've cloned the OS to a regular SSD plugged into a SATA port and I'm now running the PC off this other drive.

What should I do about the NVME drive. Crystaldiskmark gives it a health of 71%. Are there any other tests I can do to check for problems? Is it salvageable at all, or should I just send it on its way to Davy Jones' Locker?

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 3 months ago
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Hi all, when trying to do an OS update I received an error saying that I don't have enough space in my 8GB thumbdrive. Is there a simple workaround this problem, or do I need to move the data to a larger capacity drive? Thanks.

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u/Phlame_Retardant — 4 months ago