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This contestant not only dressed as Milo Thatch, he was acting like Milo Thatch. Wayne Grady is the host, he was on Who's line is it Anyway? improv comedy show in the 1990s and then akso in the recent revival.

It looks like this episode, Season 18 Episode 13, will be free online tomorrow but maybe only for a week or so. https://www.cbs.com/shows/lets_make_a_deal/episodes/

The puzzle was 1800s Western gold mine -themed.

This show is daily yet all contestants wear one-use, amazing costumes and the show features one-use, sizable, detailed props.

This was on 62.1 CBS around 1005am to 1015am on Wednesday 10/7/2026, EST. I think I posted this at 10:42am.

I just happened to be watching some of this show.

Some Non-Cable Non-Streaming TV stations also air their shows free online with ads. I don't know if Let's Make a Deal does this.

Instead of the Atlantis A Spiral, his book says DEALS. This is with reference to the show title and a common motif of this show's props but not contestant costumes.

Is Adam Sandler the producer of this TV gameshow or Drew Carey's? He also was on the 1990s Whose line is it Anyway? and the epoxymous Drew Carey show.

"Disney's new man of action is a man of words!" -. A 2001 online review article for the movie "Atlantis: The Lost Empire".

Louisiana Tunica Language Isolate: Professor Mary Haas, Marc Okrand PhD Thesis Advisor at UC Berkeley 1977

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YouTube Video: Mary Haas interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwab3RfDaWw She did Tunica which is a language isolate from Central Louisiana and probably part of the Eastern (and Central) North American Sprachbund and Southeast American Sprachbund (group of grammatically similar languages).

<< Mary Rosamond Haas[1] (January 23, 1910 – May 17, 1996) was an American linguist who specialized in North American Indian languages, Thai, and historical linguistics. She served as president of the Linguistic Society of America. >> I maybe read her grammar once or something, maybe in Hoijer 1946. She worked on Creek and Muskogean languages.

She also happens to be the spitting image of my maternal grandma.

Haas means "Rabbit" in German.

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This is a facebook group post by me from Aug 21 2022.

Professor Mary Haas was on the advisory committee for Marc Okrand's 1977 "Mutsun Grammar" PhD thesis.

Okrand Atlantean Language: 3/2022 Interlinear Gloss Translation by Me: The Name of Friendship Latin Proverb

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267, Petronius

The name of friendship endures so long as there is profit in it;

the counter on the board plays a changeable game.

While my luck holds you give me your smiles, my friends;

when it is out, you turn your faces away in shameful flight.

Latin language original :

Nomen amicitiae sic, quatenus expedit, haeret;

calculus in tabula mobile ducit opus.

Cum fortuna manet, vultum servatis, amici;

cum cecidit, turpi vertitis ora fuga.

Image:

Search:

<< Nefertari playing Senet; tomb painting 1255 BC. Queen Nefertari, died 1255 BC, was the first of the Great Royal Wives, of Ramesses the Great. QV66 is the tomb of Nefertari, the Great Wife of Pharaoh Ramesses II, in Egypt's Valley of the Queens. It was discovered by Ernesto Schiaparelli (the director of the Egyptian Museum in Turin) in 1904 >> and Alamy website.

Image : The second image is background art used in the 2001 Disney movie Atlantis The Lost Empire.

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Okrand Atlantean language translation,

actually an expansion of the language :

the name ANIK of friendship PRID IR AG there is profit in it MESHIG ET OT that DEG endures as long as TENIT D ET OT / the counter WIGAP the board DOMET TEM on MED a game KUYAB TEM changeable LIGAT MI L it plays SHOPPAG ET OT / while DOS my luck holds AYIT OK ET OT / smiles your MOLEK EN TEM MOHIN me KAGIB you give TASH EN EN / when DOS it is out SANIG ET OT faces your YEKEP EN TEM MOHIN in shame POLUP IN frightful GEDEY IN MI L you turn away RE TAG EN EN.

Here's a more exact and scientific interlinear gloss of some of this :

Here's a more exact and scientific interlinear gloss of some of this :

name ANIK

friend-Abstract.Noun-Genitive PRIDIRAG

be_beneficial-Present-3sg

[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[

MESHIG-ETOT

(subordinate clause marker referring to sentence object)

DEG

]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

endure-as_long_as-Present-3sg TENIT-DETOT

/

counter_n-Nominative

board_n-Accusative

on

game-Accusative

changeable-Adjective-Singular

play-Present-3sg

/

while

be lucky - continues - Present - 3sg

/

smile-Plural-Accusative

your

me, Dative

give-Present-3sg

/

when

be out-Present-3sg

face-Plural-Accusative

your

shame-Adverb

frightful-Adverb-Adjective-Singular

back-turn-Present-2sg

//

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Wow, I seem to have made a mistake: it should all be "you plural informal" and not "you singular". I doubt I did that on purpose but I could check my notes.

GEBR you plual informal, independent pronoun

-EH you plural, subject agreement verb suffix

Paradigm for -EH and "fail v" TAZUN :

TAZUNIMEH

TAZUNENEH

TAZUNONEH

Z : I use this instead of SH sometimes, notably in the 200k Dictionary Material. This is a resource I made in 2020 or 2022 for quickly making new words. I used a Wikipedia English word frequency list to computer-generate 200k possible imitation Okrand Atlantean words for the translator to chose from. ( As I and other contributors are not Marc Okrand. ) The list isn't lemmatized so it's kinda goofy but servicable. The ideal of having a robust actual dictionary of many handcrafted words ... may never be realized nor has it ever been anyone's goal.

I think there already exists at least one Modern Indo-European Language with a robust vocabulary, made with skills and time which I probably lack nor would ever amass for any conlang.

What time I have myself put into fully deciphering and expanding the Okrand Atlantean language the past 20 years had various goals including hobby poetry and amateur scientific experimentation and promotion. If few people care or fully understand, my goals are still achieved and with ample precedent.

I have long been aware of Hollywood teasing about conlangs like about the famous 1974 Land of the Lost conlang Pakuni referenced in the c 1998 flop movie Bubble Boy, or how in The Simpsons Wiki the character Comic Book Guy is said to have a PhD for which he translated The Lord of the Rings book(s) into the Klingon language. ( Nobody has ever translated the whole Lord of the Rings book or anything of that size into a conlang by hand. Maybe The KJV Bible, so far as I remember. )

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Original post link :

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18fettRg4K/

Original post's facebook group album :

https://www.facebook.com/groups/377768309042171/permalink/2190704221081895/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

Okrand Atlantean Language: 3/2022 Interlinear Gloss Translation by Me: The Name of Friendship Latin Proverb

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267, Petronius

The name of friendship endures so long as there is profit in it;

the counter on the board plays a changeable game.

While my luck holds you give me your smiles, my friends;

when it is out, you turn your faces away in shameful flight.

Latin language original :

Nomen amicitiae sic, quatenus expedit, haeret;

calculus in tabula mobile ducit opus.

Cum fortuna manet, vultum servatis, amici;

cum cecidit, turpi vertitis ora fuga.

Image:

Search:

<< Nefertari playing Senet; tomb painting 1255 BC. Queen Nefertari, died 1255 BC, was the first of the Great Royal Wives, of Ramesses the Great. QV66 is the tomb of Nefertari, the Great Wife of Pharaoh Ramesses II, in Egypt's Valley of the Queens. It was discovered by Ernesto Schiaparelli (the director of the Egyptian Museum in Turin) in 1904 >> and Alamy website.

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Okrand Atlantean language translation,

actually an expansion of the language :

the name ANIK of friendship PRID IR AG there is profit in it MESHIG ET OT that DEG endures as long as TENIT D ET OT / the counter WIGAP the board DOMET TEM on MED a game KUYAB TEM changeable LIGAT MI L it plays SHOPPAG ET OT / while DOS my luck holds AYIT OK ET OT / smiles your MOLEK EN TEM MOHIN me KAGIB you give TASH EN EN / when DOS it is out SANIG ET OT faces your YEKEP EN TEM MOHIN in shame POLUP IN frightful GEDEY IN MI L you turn away RE TAG EN EN.

Here's a more exact and scientific interlinear gloss of some of this :

name ANIK friend-Abstract.Noun-Genitive PRIDIRAG be_beneficial-Present-3sg [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ MESHIG-ETOT (subordinate clause marker referring to sentence object) DEG ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] endure-as_long_as-Present-3sg TENIT-DETOT /

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Original post link :

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18fettRg4K/

Original post's facebook group album :

https://www.facebook.com/groups/377768309042171/permalink/2190704221081895/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

5/21 Okrand Atlantean Language Lesson: With 500s AD Sanskrit Text about City Delights: 5 21 2026

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Selection from Srimad Bhagavatam Fourth Canto Part Two via Swami P.

Dictionary selections are from my Canonical Okrand Atlantean Dictionary: Atl. To English.

https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2015/04/okrands-atlantean-972010-e-canonical.html?view=flipcard&m=1

Further information on the Srimad Bhagavatam is from Wikipedia, retrieved today, Thurs 5 21 2026.

The cover image is art from the Second Dangerous Fireflies Scene of the 2001 movie Atlantis The Lost Empire where they put Marc Okrand's other major invented language.

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Ancient India Studies consistently uses AD instead of CE. I use AD because all my writings are actually in a very studied scholarly style based on inter-disciplinary consensus mixed with term-replacement for general audiences.

Some examples :

Language science = Linguistics

Word parts = morphemes

Alphabet = Phonemic inventory

Non-material culture =

Manners and mindsets

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I have 6 or so big volumes of this 500s AD Bhagavatam and could use it to make some lessons.

I'm also thinking of using the 1900s BC Ugaritic myths in bilingual or 2000 BC Sumerian epics and letters in bilingual or 50s AD Classical Chinese Lotus Sutra in bilingual.

5/21 Okrand Atlantean Language Lesson: With 500s AD Sanskrit Text about City Delights: 5 21 2026

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Selection from Srimad Bhagavatam Fourth Canto Part Two via Swami P.

Dictionary selections are from my Canonical Okrand Atlantean Dictionary: Atl. To English.

https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2015/04/okrands-atlantean-972010-e-canonical.html?view=flipcard&m=1

Further information on the Srimad Bhagavatam is from Wikipedia, retrieved today, Thurs 5 21 2026.

The cover image is art from the Second Dangerous Fireflies Scene of the 2001 movie Atlantis The Lost Empire where they put Marc Okrand's other major invented language.

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Ancient India Studies consistently uses AD instead of CE. I use AD because all my writings are actually in a very studied scholarly style based on inter-disciplinary consensus mixed with term-replacement for general audiences.

Some examples :

Language science = Linguistics

Word parts = morphemes

Alphabet = Phonemic inventory

Non-material culture =

Manners and mindsets

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I have 6 or so big volumes of this 500s AD Bhagavatam and could use it to make some lessons.

I'm also thinking of using the 1900s BC Ugaritic myths in bilingual or 2000 BC Sumerian epics and letters in bilingual or 50s AD Classical Chinese Lotus Sutra in bilingual.

New Translation into Okrand Atlantean Fictional Language: 2018 Bateman Fanfic Texts

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I translated this, Larry Rogers Jr. I am not James Bateman but got his permission.

Here's the full interlinear glossed translation. The glosses do not use scientific grammatical abbreviations but English approximations to these more immediately accessible to non-specialists.

https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2018/10/atlantean-translation-of-2-james.html?view=flipcard&m=1

New Translation into Okrand Atlantean Fictional Language: 2018 Bateman Fanfic Texts

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I translated this, Larry Rogers Jr. I am not James Bateman but got his permission.

Here's the full interlinear glossed translation. The glosses do not use scientific grammatical abbreviations but English approximations to these more immediately accessible to non-specialists.

https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2018/10/atlantean-translation-of-2-james.html?view=flipcard&m=1

"Imperial Exam Valedictorian" in Classical Chinese from PBS Documentary with Elderly Father

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I am fluent in Classical Chinese and have studied it for 20 years and saw this in a PBS documentary with my recuperating elderly father whom my family has been caring for the past 2 years. It's the BIRD and GENTLEMAN characters starting from the right.

It has a Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinshi

I will try to post about longer texts another day or week but this is what I have for now.

I am also an expert on all 20 or so historic foreign languages of China, especially Oracle Bone Script Chinese and Tangut, if anyone wants any help studying them. And among experts, I am rare in being competent in Anthropology and Linguistics and native fluent in English, among other amazing things.

Do not feel shy! Feel free to write me here or on my facebook profile! I seek online friends, too!

Write Me for Free Help Studying Any Historic Chinese Language; Quick Intro to Them

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I'm a rare expert on all historic foreign languages of China from metro Detroit USA and Iloilo Philippines. Feel free to private message me for free help studying any of them, I can recommend the top books in English or any other language. The past 10 years, I am on the largest relevant Facebook Groups helping people study these languages and writing systems. People can also write me on any topic in Chinese history or prehistory, in any major language though I prefer English mostly, or French or German.

Larry Rogers Jr of metro Detroit USA

https://www.facebook.com/hieroglyphs/

( You can write me here or on Reddit or email me: )

larryrogersmail@gmail.com

Do not worry, I am a very kind person online and offline despite my vast learning. This is also from vast study and experience though.

I am a rarely dedicated independent scholar of 20 years with a BA Linguistics from Michigan State University from 2009. I notably attended the AOS 2008 academic conference as a non-presenting guest. My academic disciplines of competence are Linguistics then Archaeology then Anthropology then Art History. So I am foremost a language scientist and man of language and writing system mechanics. My competence in them mostly comes from 20 years studying their top professor writings and doing my own research. The past 10 years, I also have vast experience with online volunteer teaching of anyone, especially all 200 historic foreign languages, of which there's 20 major ones. The ones of China are the absolute hardest so I specialize in them.

( I repeat, I am an independent scholar and not a professor. )

I work mostly in agriculture.

A month ago, I finally decided to post a bunch to Reddit Groups.

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I specialize most in the 2 hardest historic foreign languages of China, OBS and BZS Chinese, starting 1200 BC in Henan Province in the middle. OBS Chinese, Oracle Bone Script Chinese, is the world's hardest language because: 1) lots of its scholarship is in Modern Chinese, 2) it is visually ugly, especially compared to BZS Chinese, and 3) its corpus is entirely terse daily and monthly timelines or chronicles via divination questions and answers on major and minor royal activities. The BZS Chinese corpus is similar for terse texts. Bronze Script Chinese. OBS and BZS are Jiaguwen and Jinwen in Chinese.

I also specialize in Classical Chinese writings from Confucius's Era, around the 500s BC or BCE and recently in the 1000s to 1500s AD Tangut language from north China, related to Classical Tibetan.

I also have studied Classical Japanese language and writings a great deal and historic Korean and Vietnamese languages and writings just some.

I'm mostly an OBS and BZS and Classical Chinese guy. The oldest Classical Chinese writings interest me the most but I survey it all just to be relevant for free online teaching and a rare Big Picture sort of mastery.

See, I'm a very rare independent scholar  language scientist and anthropologist specializing most in the comparative study of all 50 or so known hieroglyphic aka logographic writing systems. The 5 major families of these writing systems are Egyptian, Chinese, Mexican, and Babylonian. Cough, there's no single Linguistics professor I could point you to who knows any of this as well as me. Professor Ignace Gelb comes to mind but I don't think he was a Linguistics PhD or professor and my understanding dwarfs his. Karlgren did a lot of work on Chinese writing systems.

I also know Anthropology very well, also very rare among any type of history professor. Cough.

Anyway, so historic and prehistoric China also has or involves these languages and or writing systems :

Classical Chinese.

Sanskrit and Classical Chinese both dwarf Latin and or Greek with how much is written in them and survives. The major writings of each could maybe fit in 100 bookshelves. Loeb's Classic Library (Latin and Greek major writings) fits in 2 bookshelves and is bilingual in English though without the delightful maps and photos of the Landmark (Herodotus) series.

Classical Manchu. Lots written in this, maybe could mostly fit in 5 bookshelves.

Classical Tibetan. There's a lot written in this language. They recently found a gigantic sealed library of maybe 1600s AD texts in it.

There's not much written in these :

1000s to 1500s AD Tangut.

Classical Mongolian.

Dongba Symbols. Not technically writing but the world's greatest exemplar of "a mnemonic symbol system".

The other nearby smaller symbol system, forgot the name. Not Moso, that's an archaic or French name for Dongba or Naxi. Hmm ...

Naxi Syllabogram Writing.

This one notably needs its variant regional dialect readings documented so scientists can better guess at the age of the symbol system and or the oral text tradition in Naxi Ritual Languages which it came to be matched with.

Nushu Women's Writing.

Jurchen Script.

Larger Khitan Script.

Lesser Khitan Script.

Modern Yi Script.

Old Yi Script.

Old Zhuang. This language is maybe an Isolate or related to Thai or something.

Old Hmong.

Old Uyghur.

Classical Sogdian. Distantly related to English. Overall there's maybe 5 bookshelves of the major writings in Sogdian. I forget.

Tocharian A and B. Distantly related to English.

Sanskrit. Distantly related to English.

This language is from India yet studied in China a lot since Buddhism came over in the 100s AD or so.

Proto-Sino-Tibetan. This is not a written language but a prehistoric language known partially through scientific reconstruction.

Proto-Austronesian. "Ditto." (Patrick Swayze reference.)

I forget what else. These are the major ones and many minor ones. Bows. Questions?

Each Chinese Dialect has writings in it going back maybe to the 500s AD at most. Not much, they all mostly wrote in Classical Chinese, a distinct language underlying it. I forget which one it is closest to.

Professor Jerry Norman wrote a nice book recently surveying all the Sinitic languages of China. He also wrote the 2 major recent English language dictionaries on Classical Manchu language.

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Everyone is welcome to write me for free help studying them or to help me.

It has been very difficult the past 20 years to study all these things, for various reasons.

I'm Chinese American and Iloilo Filipino American and Mohawk Native American but encourage people outside those ethnicities to study our original and ancient languages, myths, history, and sadly forgotten wisdom. I'm Mohawk aka Kanienkehaka from a 1700s ancestress in Toronto, One Drop Rule. I also had a close Official Tribal Member mentor Mohawk in high school who sadly died 2 years after I graduated, the same year I felt the inspiration to begin studying many languages all the time.

I really dislike how Ancient China is understudied and poorly studied worldwide.

I am also fluent in reading Germanic, Romance, Latin,  Greek, Hebrew\*, Modern Chinese\*, Classical Chinese, Modern Japanese\*, and just a few other languages. \* : I'm not-so-fluent in these ones. Tons of others I can work with, especially if they are on the Google Translate website.

I was at all of the Polyglots Gathering 2026 free online conference last March, to prove my polyglotism. I will be there next year, see me on video chat.

People can also write me for help studying any language, especially obscure modern or historic ones. Historic foreign languages are more my specialty than modern obscure languages.

I have a few other specific groups of historic foreign languages that I can say I specialize in.

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I might write more some other time on this Reddit group. I'm mostly into Facebook groups the past 10 years for historic foreign languages teaching etc. The past 10 years, I read a lot on Reddit website but not so much about my specialty of historic foreign languages but about mostly Western current events or modern foreign peoples or American nostalgia.

I know that top professors know the most about their topics of specialty, so I mostly read their writings.

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I know a lot about Modern China but my specialty is Ancient China, historic and prehistoric eras. I know more about Modern China than Oxford Professor Joseph Needham did. Cough.

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Images:

The images to this post are just some books about this I could think of off the top of my head. Most are in English.

Write Me for Free Help Studying Any Historic Chinese Language; Quick Intro to Them

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I'm a rare expert on all historic foreign languages of China from metro Detroit USA and Iloilo Philippines. Feel free to private message me for free help studying any of them, I can recommend the top books in English or any other language. The past 10 years, I am on the largest relevant Facebook Groups helping people study these languages and writing systems. People can also write me on any topic in Chinese history or prehistory, in any major language though I prefer English mostly, or French or German.

Larry Rogers Jr of metro Detroit USA

https://www.facebook.com/hieroglyphs/

( You can write me here or on Reddit or email me: )

larryrogersmail@gmail.com

Do not worry, I am a very kind person online and offline despite my vast learning. This is also from vast study and experience though.

I am a rarely dedicated independent scholar of 20 years with a BA Linguistics from Michigan State University from 2009. I notably attended the AOS 2008 academic conference as a non-presenting guest. My academic disciplines of competence are Linguistics then Archaeology then Anthropology then Art History. So I am foremost a language scientist and man of language and writing system mechanics. My competence in them mostly comes from 20 years studying their top professor writings and doing my own research. The past 10 years, I also have vast experience with online volunteer teaching of anyone, especially all 200 historic foreign languages, of which there's 20 major ones. The ones of China are the absolute hardest so I specialize in them.

( I repeat, I am an independent scholar and not a professor. )

I work mostly in agriculture.

A month ago, I finally decided to post a bunch to Reddit Groups.

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I specialize most in the 2 hardest historic foreign languages of China, OBS and BZS Chinese, starting 1200 BC in Henan Province in the middle. OBS Chinese, Oracle Bone Script Chinese, is the world's hardest language because: 1) lots of its scholarship is in Modern Chinese, 2) it is visually ugly, especially compared to BZS Chinese, and 3) its corpus is entirely terse daily and monthly timelines or chronicles via divination questions and answers on major and minor royal activities. The BZS Chinese corpus is similar for terse texts. Bronze Script Chinese. OBS and BZS are Jiaguwen and Jinwen in Chinese.

I also specialize in Classical Chinese writings from Confucius's Era, around the 500s BC or BCE and recently in the 1000s to 1500s AD Tangut language from north China, related to Classical Tibetan.

I also have studied Classical Japanese language and writings a great deal and historic Korean and Vietnamese languages and writings just some.

I'm mostly an OBS and BZS and Classical Chinese guy. The oldest Classical Chinese writings interest me the most but I survey it all just to be relevant for free online teaching and a rare Big Picture sort of mastery.

See, I'm a very rare independent scholar  language scientist and anthropologist specializing most in the comparative study of all 50 or so known hieroglyphic aka logographic writing systems. The 5 major families of these writing systems are Egyptian, Chinese, Mexican, and Babylonian. Cough, there's no single Linguistics professor I could point you to who knows any of this as well as me. Professor Ignace Gelb comes to mind but I don't think he was a Linguistics PhD or professor and my understanding dwarfs his. Karlgren did a lot of work on Chinese writing systems.

I also know Anthropology very well, also very rare among any type of history professor. Cough.

Anyway, so historic and prehistoric China also has or involves these languages and or writing systems :

Classical Chinese.

Sanskrit and Classical Chinese both dwarf Latin and or Greek with how much is written in them and survives. The major writings of each could maybe fit in 100 bookshelves. Loeb's Classic Library (Latin and Greek major writings) fits in 2 bookshelves and is bilingual in English though without the delightful maps and photos of the Landmark (Herodotus) series.

Classical Manchu. Lots written in this, maybe could mostly fit in 5 bookshelves.

Classical Tibetan. There's a lot written in this language. They recently found a gigantic sealed library of maybe 1600s AD texts in it.

There's not much written in these :

1000s to 1500s AD Tangut.

Classical Mongolian.

Dongba Symbols. Not technically writing but the world's greatest exemplar of "a mnemonic symbol system".

This one notably needs its variant regional dialect readings documented so scientists can better guess at the age of the symbol system and or the oral text tradition in Naxi Ritual Languages which it came to be matched with.

Nushu Women's Writing.

Jurchen Script.

Larger Khitan Script.

Lesser Khitan Script.

Old Zhuang. This language is maybe an Isolate or related to Thai or something.

Old Hmong.

Old Uyghur.

Classical Sogdian. Distantly related to English. Overall there's maybe 5 bookshelves of the major writings in Sogdian. I forget.

Tocharian A and B. Distantly related to English.

Sanskrit. Distantly related to English.

This language is from India yet studied in China a lot since Buddhism came over in the 100s AD or so.

Proto-Sino-Tibetan. This is not a written language but a prehistoric language known partially through scientific reconstruction.

Proto-Austronesian. "Ditto." (Patrick Swayze reference.)

I forget what else. These are the major ones and many minor ones. Bows. Questions?

Each Chinese Dialect has writings in it going back maybe to the 500s AD at most. Not much, they all mostly wrote in Classical Chinese, a distinct language underlying it. I forget which one it is closest to.

Professor Jerry Norman wrote a nice book recently surveying all the Sinitic languages of China. He also wrote the 2 major recent English language dictionaries on Classical Manchu language.

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Everyone is welcome to write me for free help studying them or to help me.

It has been very difficult the past 20 years to study all these things, for various reasons.

I'm Chinese American and Iloilo Filipino American and Mohawk Native American but encourage people outside those ethnicities to study our original and ancient languages, myths, history, and sadly forgotten wisdom. I'm Mohawk aka Kanienkehaka from a 1700s ancestress in Toronto, One Drop Rule. I also had a close Official Tribal Member mentor Mohawk in high school who sadly died 2 years after I graduated, the same year I felt the inspiration to begin studying many languages all the time.

I really dislike how Ancient China is understudied and poorly studied worldwide.

I am also fluent in reading Germanic, Romance, Latin,  Greek, Hebrew*, Modern Chinese*, Classical Chinese, Modern Japanese*, and just a few other languages. * : I'm not-so-fluent in these ones. Tons of others I can work with, especially if they are on the Google Translate website.

I was at all of the Polyglots Gathering 2026 free online conference last March, to prove my polyglotism. I will be there next year, see me on video chat.

People can also write me for help studying any language, especially obscure modern or historic ones. Historic foreign languages are more my specialty than modern obscure languages.

I have a few other specific groups of historic foreign languages that I can say I specialize in.

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I might write more some other time on this Reddit group. I'm mostly into Facebook groups the past 10 years for historic foreign languages teaching etc. The past 10 years, I read a lot on Reddit website but not so much about my specialty of historic foreign languages but about mostly Western current events or modern foreign peoples or American nostalgia.

I know that top professors know the most about their topics of specialty, so I mostly read their writings.

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I know a lot about Modern China but my specialty is Ancient China, historic and prehistoric eras. I know more about Modern China than Oxford Professor Joseph Needham did. Cough.

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Images:

The images to this post are just some books about this I could think of off the top of my head. Most are in English.

Deimal 1934 Sumerian Akkadian Glossary: Images Reply and Quick Intro

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If I remember, this one is not free online, in the Public Domain until 2034, and only 5 American universities are listed as having it on WorldCat website.

But it sounds outdated and expensive, so why would you buy a copy? Nostalgia? Interest? Bookshelf decoration? A sense of erudition?

The whole thing is in German and clearly handwritten. Not a bit of the English in it, not even if you turn it sideways or upside down.

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Here's images to hopefully answer a recent post question to another Reddit group. Here is a link to the question post. I also replied there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sumerian/s/kvfXRjfLGu

I'm new to Reddit groups and see I can't reply with images as on Facebook groups. So I made this post and thought I would post it here as well.

I own these 3 books and bought them a couple months ago cheap. I like outadated scholarship and The History and Mechanics of Science somewhat and to a notable degree. But not as much as the modern world!

@PoxonAllHoaxes

Everybody is also welcome to private message me or write me on facebook with any questions on any of the 10 or so Cuneiform Languages, as I know a lot about all of them! I also can help with bibliography on any obscure foreign language, especially the 200 or so historic ones. And I've studied almost all of them the past 20 years.

My facebook address is /hieroglyphs/ . I also know Ancient Egyptian languages far better than the Cuneiform Languages.

Professor Craig Melchert once gave me a copy of his Cuneiform Luwian corpus. He will give you a copy if you email him. He works at U North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

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Images: The books and a photo of Deimal. Maybe he was Christian priest, I forget.

A Quick History of Conlanging

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In the grand history of conlanging, what are the most important conlangs or pseudo-conlangs?

JRR Tolkien's conlangs, Klingon, Na'vi, Esperanto, High Valyrian are modern conlangs of note with histories of varying length.

Well, MAR Barker's Tekemiel comes to mind.

There's various pseudo-conlangs from movies like King Kong and She by HG Haggard from the 1930s and the 1950s The Day the Earth Stood Still and Forbidden Planet.  These have their place in Conlang History.  Dark Crystal and Star Wars had a few pseudo-conlangs, if I remember.

There's also a whole world, spanning hundreds of years, of pseudo-conlang personal names and some words in fiction, like Gulliver's Travels in the 1700s and Gargantua in the 1600s.  I have also researched that some.

MAR Barker notably made a conlang, Tekemiel, for his Dungeons and Dragons -like game.  I have yet to buy the necessary expensive books to study it.

I have done a huge study on all the pseudo-conlangs of Edgar Rice Burroughs from his 1905 to 1970s Tarzan and Barsoom and other science-fiction and detective books.

In 2014, I was the first person to decipher the 1974 Pakuni language, the first conlang on TV.   I recemtly heard from Reddit User Shenbotai that there was a true conlang in a 1950 British movie but he did not say he made of webpage of its decipherment or documrntation nor published it. As is typical of amateurs.

Of course, many studies and decipherments and documentations have yet to be done, as well as possible conlang expansions and conlang derivative creations ( pseudo-conlang to conlang ).  I just try with my time to make progress on what remains to be done.

I have also done a study of conlangs and pseudo-conlangs from Star Trek and made for Star Trek by fans.

I have studied many Ritual Languages from around the world, too.  These are variations of languages used for various purposes yet called Ritual Languages by anthropologists.

The conlangs of Christine Shreyer and Trent Pehrson I have yet to document.  David Peterson's are on his website but not fully presented and deciphered by him or anyone yet.

Sign language conlangs and logographic writing system conlangs and computer-generated conlangs are all frontiers of conlanging.  There are also non-spoken conlangs which are curiosities and theoretically interesting.

Okrand Atlantean Language: All G Words from Dictionary, with New Notes by Me

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This is a section of my 2006 dictionary of the 2001 Marc Okrand Atlantean language from the Disney movie Atlantis: The Lost Empire. He also made the Klingon language and this is his second greatest conlang of maybe 10 or 20 known. I was the first person to decipher this language in 2006 and have also made a facebook group and some webpages on it and taught about it to about 100 people in 20 years. I also was the first person to decipher the 1974 Pakuni language from Land of the Lost in 2014 when I got it on my website. Here's a link to the full dictionary by me of the Okrand Atlantean language :

https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2015/04/okrands-atlantean-972010-e-canonical.html?view=flipcard&m=1

I will make some additions in square brackets [[ ... ]] .

g : might : 4 : aspect hypothetical : X : V : 22 : : :

[[ Maybe this is like Subjunctive or Optative mood. It's VERB-(Passive)-g-Tense-Subject. ]]

G : : many : hand : : : : : :

[[ "Many" is how many times this letter occurs in the corpus, if I remember. Check the website. It might instead be a meaning for the letter, from its Elder Futhark or Phoenician letter name and identity. "Hand" certainly is that, at least, but from a Chinese character. ]]

gabr : you-all, formal : : P2 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 47 : : :

gabr : you-all (familiar) : 1 : : : : : : :

galem : walk, to : 6 : : : : : : :

gaman : see : 1 : unknown : : : : : :

[[ Words marked "unknown" are undecipherable and their English glosses are inventions by me based on context and similar Proto Indo European roots. ]]

gamok : Good-bye. : 1 : : : : : : :

gamos : see, to : 18 : : : : : : :

gaput : debt : 3 : unknown : : : : : :

gawen : 0.7 bushels : 1 : 24.7 liters : : : : : :

gawidin : joyfully : 1 : : : : : : :

[[ -in : -ADV ]]

gebr : you-all, informal : 1 : P2 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 46 : : :

gel… : red *geleb : 1 : unknown. Cf. German 'gelben', 'yellow'. : : : : : :

[[ *geleb is my own completion of this word, based on German for "yellow". ]]

geluk : salut, perhaps by firing a shot : 2 : unknown : : : : : :

gem : ground : 10 : : : : : : :

[[ "10" is how many this Okrand Atlantean word occurs in the corpus. ]]

genoh : place, to : 3 : may be geran : : : : : :

Geran : Armada, Fleet of Atl. Fliers : 1 : unknown : : : : : :

gesloh : 1000 : 7 : unknown : : : : : :

gesu : help, to : 2 : : : : : : :

getanos : intruder : 1 : : : : : : :

[[ -os : -ADJENTIVE, -doer ]]

gewabmok : Entrance, Great The : 2 : unknown : : : : : :

[[ -mok : -great ]]

[[ This word probably refers to the tunnel entrance of The Leviathan in The Bermuda Triangle but I included instead with this post a picture of an entrance to another tunnel leading right to Atlantis. ]]

gim : and : 44 : : C : : 79 : : :

gobeg : arm : 2 : ety. poss. 'limb, arm or leg' : : : : : :

goh/yah : cheese : 1 : unknown. Script and movie. Both seem Okrand. : : : : : :

gom : to : 15 : : P : : 65 : : :

gonosmig : giant : 14 : : : : : : :

[[ -mi-g : -ADJ-PL ]]

gwaneg : memory : 4 : unknown : : : : : :

gwelen : turn, go around something : 1 : unknown, perhaps 'to reverence, salut'? : : : : : :

gwenog : kill, to : 2 : : : : : : :

gwis : we : : P1 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 45 : : :

gwis : we : 11 : fence : : : : : :

Here's my websites' homepage with links to my other Okrand Atlantean webpages:

[[ insert later ]]

Idea for an Imitation Ancient Austronesian Language

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My major style of conlang is to use modern language words but alter their meanings to imitate an ancestral language. But without historic sound changes. I'd also pull from multiple Austronesian languages, if I had the dictionaries, which I do. And I d pair it to a simplified grammar based on Proto Austronesian or Proto Formosan or such.

I did an Imitation Ancient SE Asian Language like this within the past 5 or 10 years.

I know comparative etymology very well and have studied just about all 200 historic foreign languages that exist, the past 20 years.

Here's a partial list in a Wikipedia article :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_first_written_account

Okrand Atlantean Language: All G Words from Dictionary, with New Notes by Me

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https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2015/04/okrands-atlantean-972010-e-canonical.html?view=flipcard&m=1

I will make some additions in square brackets [[ ... ]] .

g : might : 4 : aspect hypothetical : X : V : 22 : : :

[[ Maybe this is like Subjunctive or Optative mood. It's VERB-(Passive)-g-Tense-Subject. ]]

G : : many : hand : : : : : :

[[ "Many" is how many times this letter occurs in the corpus, if I remember. Check the website. It might instead be a meaning for the letter, from its Elder Futhark or Phoenician letter name and identity. "Hand" certainly is that, at least, but from a Chinese character. ]]

gabr : you-all, formal : : P2 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 47 : : :

gabr : you-all (familiar) : 1 : : : : : : :

galem : walk, to : 6 : : : : : : :

gaman : see : 1 : unknown : : : : : :

[[ Words marked "unknown" are undecipherable and their English glosses are inventions by me based on context and similar Proto Indo European roots. ]]

gamok : Good-bye. : 1 : : : : : : :

gamos : see, to : 18 : : : : : : :

gaput : debt : 3 : unknown : : : : : :

gawen : 0.7 bushels : 1 : 24.7 liters : : : : : :

gawidin : joyfully : 1 : : : : : : :

[[ -in : -ADV ]]

gebr : you-all, informal : 1 : P2 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 46 : : :

gel… : red *geleb : 1 : unknown. Cf. German 'gelben', 'yellow'. : : : : : :

[[ *geleb is my own completion of this word, based on German for "yellow". ]]

geluk : salut, perhaps by firing a shot : 2 : unknown : : : : : :

gem : ground : 10 : : : : : : :

[[ "10" is how many this Okrand Atlantean word occurs in the corpus. ]]

genoh : place, to : 3 : may be geran : : : : : :

Geran : Armada, Fleet of Atl. Fliers : 1 : unknown : : : : : :

gesloh : 1000 : 7 : unknown : : : : : :

gesu : help, to : 2 : : : : : : :

getanos : intruder : 1 : : : : : : :

[[ -os : -ADJENTIVE, -doer ]]

gewabmok : Entrance, Great The : 2 : unknown : : : : : :

[[ -mok : -great ]]

gim : and : 44 : : C : : 79 : : :

gobeg : arm : 2 : ety. poss. 'limb, arm or leg' : : : : : :

goh/yah : cheese : 1 : unknown. Script and movie. Both seem Okrand. : : : : : :

gom : to : 15 : : P : : 65 : : :

gonosmig : giant : 14 : : : : : : :

[[ -mi-g : -ADJ-PL ]]

gwaneg : memory : 4 : unknown : : : : : :

gwelen : turn, go around something : 1 : unknown, perhaps 'to reverence, salut'? : : : : : :

gwenog : kill, to : 2 : : : : : : :

gwis : we : : P1 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 45 : : :

gwis : we : 11 : fence : : : : : :

Okrand Atlantean Language: All G Words from Dictionary, with New Notes by Me

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https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2015/04/okrands-atlantean-972010-e-canonical.html?view=flipcard&m=1

I will make some additions in square brackets [[ ... ]] .

g : might : 4 : aspect hypothetical : X : V : 22 : : :

[[ Maybe this is like Subjunctive or Optative mood. It's VERB-(Passive)-g-Tense-Subject. ]]

G : : many : hand : : : : : :

[[ "Many" is how many times this letter occurs in the corpus, if I remember. Check the website. It might instead be a meaning for the letter, from its Elder Futhark or Phoenician letter name and identity. "Hand" certainly is that, at least, but from a Chinese character. ]]

gabr : you-all, formal : : P2 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 47 : : :

[[ 2PL formal. R here means "pronoun". ]]

gabr : you-all (familiar) : 1 : : : : : : :

galem : walk, to : 6 : : : : : : :

gaman : see : 1 : unknown : : : : : :

[[ Words marked "unknown" are undecipherable and their English glosses are inventions by me based on context and similar Proto Indo European roots. ]]

gamok : Good-bye. : 1 : : : : : : :

gamos : see, to : 18 : : : : : : :

gaput : debt : 3 : unknown : : : : : :

gawen : 0.7 bushels : 1 : 24.7 liters : : : : : :

gawidin : joyfully : 1 : : : : : : :

[[ -in : -ADV ]]

gebr : you-all, informal : 1 : P2 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 46 : : :

gel… : red *geleb : 1 : unknown. Cf. German 'gelben', 'yellow'. : : : : : :

[[ *geleb is my own completion of this word, based on German for "yellow". ]]

geluk : salut, perhaps by firing a shot : 2 : unknown : : : : : :

gem : ground : 10 : : : : : : :

[[ "10" is how many this Okrand Atlantean word occurs in the corpus. ]]

genoh : place, to : 3 : may be geran : : : : : :

Geran : Armada, Fleet of Atl. Fliers : 1 : unknown : : : : : :

gesloh : 1000 : 7 : unknown : : : : : :

gesu : help, to : 2 : : : : : : :

getanos : intruder : 1 : : : : : : :

[[ -os : -ADJENTIVE, -doer ]]

gewabmok : Entrance, Great The : 2 : unknown : : : : : :

[[ -mok : -great ]]

gim : and : 44 : : C : : 79 : : :

gobeg : arm : 2 : ety. poss. 'limb, arm or leg' : : : : : :

goh/yah : cheese : 1 : unknown. Script and movie. Both seem Okrand. : : : : : :

gom : to : 15 : : P : : 65 : : :

gonosmig : giant : 14 : : : : : : :

[[ -mi-g : -ADJ-PL ]]

gwaneg : memory : 4 : unknown : : : : : :

gwelen : turn, go around something : 1 : unknown, perhaps 'to reverence, salut'? : : : : : :

gwenog : kill, to : 2 : : : : : : :

gwis : we : : P1 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 45 : : :

gwis : we : 11 : fence : : : : : :

Okrand Atlantean Language: All G Words from Dictionary, with New Notes by Me

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Okrand Atlantean Dictionary made by me from my 2006 decipherment, the world's first.

https://naviklingon.blogspot.com/2015/04/okrands-atlantean-972010-e-canonical.html?view=flipcard&m=1

I will make some additions in square brackets [[ ... ]] .

g : might : 4 : aspect hypothetical : X : V : 22 : : :

[[ Maybe this is like Subjunctive or Optative mood. It's VERB-(Passive)-g-Tense-Subject. ]]

G : : many : hand : : : : : :

[[ "Many" is how many times this letter occurs in the corpus, if I remember. Check the website. It might instead be a meaning for the letter, from its Elder Futhark or Phoenician letter name and identity. "Hand" certainly is that, at least, but from a Chinese character. ]]

gabr : you-all, formal : : P2 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 47 : : :

gabr : you-all (familiar) : 1 : : : : : : :

galem : walk, to : 6 : : : : : : :

gaman : see : 1 : unknown : : : : : :

[[ Words marked "unknown" are undecipherable and their English glosses are inventions by me based on context and similar Proto Indo European roots. ]]

gamok : Good-bye. : 1 : : : : : : :

gamos : see, to : 18 : : : : : : :

gaput : debt : 3 : unknown : : : : : :

gawen : 0.7 bushels : 1 : 24.7 liters : : : : : :

gawidin : joyfully : 1 : : : : : : :

[[ -in : -ADV ]]

gebr : you-all, informal : 1 : P2 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 46 : : :

gel… : red *geleb : 1 : unknown. Cf. German 'gelben', 'yellow'. : : : : : :

[[ *geleb is my own completion of this word, based on German for "yellow". ]]

geluk : salut, perhaps by firing a shot : 2 : unknown : : : : : :

gem : ground : 10 : : : : : : :

[[ "10" is how many this Okrand Atlantean word occurs in the corpus. ]]

genoh : place, to : 3 : may be geran : : : : : :

Geran : Armada, Fleet of Atl. Fliers : 1 : unknown : : : : : :

gesloh : 1000 : 7 : unknown : : : : : :

gesu : help, to : 2 : : : : : : :

getanos : intruder : 1 : : : : : : :

[[ -os : -ADJENTIVE, -doer ]]

gewabmok : Entrance, Great The : 2 : unknown : : : : : :

[[ -mok : -great ]]

gim : and : 44 : : C : : 79 : : :

gobeg : arm : 2 : ety. poss. 'limb, arm or leg' : : : : : :

goh/yah : cheese : 1 : unknown. Script and movie. Both seem Okrand. : : : : : :

gom : to : 15 : : P : : 65 : : :

gonosmig : giant : 14 : : : : : : :

[[ -mi-g : -ADJ-PL ]]

gwaneg : memory : 4 : unknown : : : : : :

gwelen : turn, go around something : 1 : unknown, perhaps 'to reverence, salut'? : : : : : :

gwenog : kill, to : 2 : : : : : : :

gwis : we : : P1 independent pronoun, used emphatically : R : : 45 : : :

gwis : we : 11 : fence : : : : : :