u/PriestKingofMinos

I genuinely do not believe women experience loneliness. All women are a sisterhood and love each other. Women always make friends with other women and have a greater in group solitary then men could ever dream. The idea that "women hate other women" is male cope and projection based on the assumption our extreme intrasexual competition has some female equivalent. It doesn't. Women are a monolith and a hive mind who love each other. Women love female strangers more than their own sons. Women always side with other women and protect other women. They side with women who kill their own kids. They always work to scrutinize and exclude males but not other women. You ever notice how Reddit pages for loneliness end up being all male and then heavily policed by the mods? You ever notice that lonely or ugly female spaces always ban men from entering them but lonely male spaces don't? Hm . . .

I don't care how mean or out of touch this sounds. I flat out think it's a total farce they use for even more attention (from women and simps). I don't care what "statistics" or survey you show me. Any woman who says she is lonely is a liar.

Women hate men. There are no straight women on Earth who actually care if men don't like them. Women don't like being hit on at all, they reject close to 100% of all men. More women complain about too much attention. Most want their peace and to be left alone by men. Almost all women complain that no matter where they go, what they do, the signs they give, what they wear, how unkempt they are men can't leave them alone. They don't find our advances cute or charming or courageous, jus annoying and gross. At most they like to know that men find them attractive as a kind of status thing to compare themselves to other women. Many women create accounts on dating apps with 0 intent of dating, they just want to see how many likes they can get in 24 hours to know if "they still got it" for a quick ego boost. They don't want men in their lives. The only reason more women are actually in relationships with men is that men are so desperate you can't even give away dick for free. Lots of men are paying women, one way or another, to take their dicks. Imagine if car lots started paying women to take their inventory. Suddenly, women would own more cars then men, whether or not they like cars more than men. "Okay, all these losers are paying me for some attention, may as well take it from the one I dislike the least.

Women do not get old and turn into bitter car ladies. Women are totally fine with no man or kids in their life ay any age. It does not actually matter to them. There are 0 women over 50 who regret not having kids. Most openly brag about it and are thankful they never settled down. They encourage other women to do it. 60 year old women get more romantic and social attention than 25 year old men. The belief women get lonely is Red Pill Manospehre cope meant to scare them into getting back in the dating pool. It's a pathetic revenge fantasy cope based on outdated Boomer logic. Losers are desperate to increase the pool of available women and they think they can get women to date them by making them think they will lonely when it's the reverse. It's only the men who get lonely and upset and die deaths of despair. Women do not like or need men or care about men. Women do not get any validation from positive male attention. A compliment from a man is an insult to a woman. Women would prefer a world with few to no men. Women don't dress or really do anything for men. If men didn't exist, heterosexual women would actually dress more promiscuously in public. They are so filled with hatred at our existence always bothering them.

Most women barely like their own husbands and would not even be upset if he died. Few would dream of remarrying. Women are more important for men's happiness than the reverse. Women simply don't care about men at all and don't get upset when there are no men around, the prefer it. 0 women who see this will actually disagree because this is all they say on Reddit, TikTok, and Instagram. Women are only told to decenter men even though they are already indifferent towards us. Women are told to regard men even tless than they do. To, essentially, have a negative attitude toward us as the default. To always assume the worst of us and always be hostile, defensive and cautious. Listen to women. I have watched and consumed hours, perhaps days, of TikTok and Reddit femosphere content. My conclusion is they hate us for being violent, gross, stupid, ugly, uneducated, misogynistic, entitled, overconfident, predatory, oversexed, perverted, lame, out of touch, egotistical, spoiled, unaccountable, bigoted, self-destructive, anti-social, toxic, worthless, insecure, creepy, neanderthal, morons not deserving of the extreme lengths women go to accommodate us and our feelings (which don't actually matter but they think they are being forced to consider).

Why would women ever feel upset or lonely that such a group of subhumans were not around?

So many women ask this. Yet, so few men have answered. Let me try.

Being rejected hundreds and even thousands of times is a painful, time wasting, grueling, humiliating and ultimately traumatizing experience that large numbers of men and no women have to endure. I repeat, no women will ever have to endure as much rejection as any man. Not even lesbian women have to go through what heterosexual men do in order to find that one, elusive, yes. To be repeatedly told you are not good enough is not fun. The "game" of going out and hitting on women is not fun for most men. It's tedious and sometimes even expensive to constantly have to put yourself "out there" to get something women are handed for free. If most men stop taking the initiative they will receive no attention from women. Many men have never been asked out, not even once. Some men have, a very few times. If you choose to focus on yourself, and not prioritize dating you are more likely to find yourself going years without any woman voluntarily interacting with you than ever having a relationship.

People say "don't take it personally". This is the opposite of the truth. Not only is it a very personal thing it is, perhaps, the most personal form of rejection a human can get. To be told you are not good enough for a close loving relationship. You obviously approached the woman because you felt something for her. You have some stake in the outcome, some vested interest in what she has to say. You do care if she likes you or not and what she thinks matters. No one asks out sometimes they are apathetic towards. Loans, mortgages, jobs, college applications? Those rejections are just business. They are just cost-benefit analysis. You didn't qualify for a loan? The hiring manager, at their discretion, felt someone with more experience would be a better fit. It is, strictly business. Even getting fired is just cost-benefit analysis. Being told you aren't good enough for a voluntary relationship is much worse. Few people who get dumped feel nothing. Your emotional reaction to a rejection is real and valid.

It's hard to get women to accept this, that when most men approach, it's actually because they want genuine romantic human connection. Something so normal and common and fundamental to the human experience, the validation of another. Wanting a romantic connection is not something stemming from an entitlement mentality. Desiring an intimate partnership with another person is not an entitlement mentality, it is a normal and healthy mentality. The knowledge they are, as themselves, worthy or romantic love. This is something all women receive in abundance, to the point they are apathetic to most of it. It's not just about cheap sex for men, it is about a real connection. If it was about sex and nothing more they could try to find an escort.

Regarding sex, even something regarded as crass and shallow, making a pass at a woman for casual sex, is basically normal and at this point in history not something to shame (if the "no slut shaming mantra" has any teeth). The reason for this is because most women do in fact have at least some casual sexual encounters and plenty have had sex with men within the day, sometimes the hour, of meeting them. Men know this. It's not wrong for those men to want to get to enjoy that phenomena. It's not surprising when men get confused and upset they have no obvious access to that world when it seems like at least some other normal men do.

The internet age has only worsened this. Dating apps allow women to reject thousands and even tens of thousands of men. In turn, some men are thus being rejected by tens of thousands of women. This is basically an incomprehensible thing for the human mind to grasp and totally unnatural to us. This is not natural selection at play. Large numbers of men are facing an existential crisis where they know there is a good chance no one will ever say yes to them and they will have to die alone. They can flip a coin. Die alone or get rejected, again. Those are the options many men have been left with, especially young men who are most desirous of romantic contact.

The urge to be in a relationship is normal and natural. Relationships are normal and natural. Normal men have no more of an "entitlement" mentality towards getting a date than they do getting a job or place of their own. These are normal parts of life and yes, it's okay to get upset or annoyed when you do the right thing and can't get what you want, especially when other people who do the wrong things sometimes do end up well-off. You did not expose yourself as a fraud or a fake nice guy when you show bewilderment that you're a good and decent person who can't get a date when there are men in prison with multiple baby mamas.

The vast majority of all adults who go through puberty want a relationship, again, this is normal. But men have to take the initiative. Men have to be told they aren't good enough. Men also want it more and it is more important for men's happiness than it is for women. One reason why women aren't that motivated to make the first move is they aren't as bothered if nothing ever happens. It's paradoxical, but the sex that wants it the least has the most access to it. The sex that wants it the most has the least access.

There are a number of other issues that could be brought up but I won't go into detail on them. We are constantly told about women's fears and anxieties regarding dating and being approached. Little is said about how men feel. Most advice people give to men when it comes to approaching women (especially the advice women give) is bad, really bad. Most people show no sympathy to men at all, no matter how well-meaning and courteous they try to be regarding women's feelings. It's mostly just shaming them. Invoking the just world fallacy is a big issue here. Telling men who struggle, romantically, that they must always deserve it for some personal failing is cruel. It's like telling the unemployed or homeless its always all their fault. Nothing else, nothing systemic, is going on. The situation for men right now is bad and will likely get worse. There are forces beyond any one man's control impacting relationship formation right now. Telling men "dating is hard for everyone" when it's clearly much more difficult for men to find a willing partner is incorrect, especially in a feminized world that tells women everything is harder for them than men (education, safety, work, healthcare).

To sum up

1. Rejection from a romantic advance is the most personal, and therefore painful, form of rejection.
2. Men endure an enormous amount of this in comparison to women.
3. The long run impact of constant rejection is traumatizing and jading, especially for men who are normal, well-adjusted, and make an honest effort. Men who are low-inhabitation don't actually care.
4. There is no good advice for men on how to improve their odds.
5. Many men have to deal with the existential dread they really are not good enough and could end up along for years or their entire lives.
6. Relationships are actually more important for men's happiness than women's.