"F*ck you Ammon!"
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Original video: https://youtu.be/8umWL9UyHRc
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Original video: https://youtu.be/8umWL9UyHRc
I put a compilation of some of the speakers at the public hearing portion who spoke on Ben and the AFPD.
Credit to Frugal Family Flies Again for the livestream
Brick by brick!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fZKPZjlOZk
Jurors will hear final arguments today and may have a verdict by the end of the day.
If not today, they will stay in a hotel to deliberate. That's why I think theres a good chance they'll decide today. Only time will tell...
It's called the Kafkatrap. Basically no matter what you say or do, the attacker will always interpret it as an admission/evidence of guilt.
Here's an example of how cops use it during a stop:
We see cops do this shit all the time! and maybe you've had it done to you by a pig (I know i have).
I bring this up because I replied to comment in another post about the AFPD corruption in how they treated Ben on this sub. In that comment someone brought up how you should not talk to police. I replied regardless if you do or don't, they'll still treat you like a criminal and try to kafkatrap you. Original Comment
People in general, especially YouTubers like Ben, would benefit from learning what kafkatrap is and knowing how to call it out when it happens. Putting a name on it gives us more power to fight against it.
This has been a public service announcement!
This has to stop.
This has to change.
We the people have had enough!
Does anyone else agree?
Just came across Det. Nicosia Interrogation and wanted to write my realtime notes with timestamp links here:
[side note: i use headings to make it easier to scan my main observations]
- Translation: so we are just detaining you in hopes we can find something to charge you with.
- If they're just wanting to detain him for questions, couldn't they have done that at the AirBnB?
- notice how after he just explained the REAL LEGO THEFT (OF WHICH THEY HAVE A SEARCH WARRANT FOR STOLEN LEGO), the cop still is asking questions about him and Ben, not about the people who actually stole the LEGO
- seems like the cop is focusing only one investigating Ben to find something to charge him with.
- They dont care about the stolen LEGO they went out of their way to get a Judge to sign a search warrant with authorization to use lethal force.
- lethal force because "they just want to scare him"?
- why is the cop still trying to find evidence on them? He already told the cops enough info so they can confirm 1) the victim of the stolen LEGO, 2) who stole the LEGO.
- at this point, they should have realized they fucked up bad, they mistakenly arrested the victim's assistants in recovering the stolen goods from the crime they just got the search warrant for.
- they dont realize it because they know what they are doing. They are abusing their power to protect their 'brother in the church' and go after Ben
- did the AFPD at any time reach out to Bryan to confirm their story?
- if PD did reach out to Bryan and found out Ben is innocent and trying to recover the stolen LEGO, then they would have evidence Ben is innocent in regards to the search warrant. Which further shows they never cared about the stole LEGO and the search warrant was never about the LEGO. It was about getting Ben and his crew.
- PD probably intentionally did not to reach out to Bryan because they know Ben did not steal LEGO and they made it clear in an earlier police cam footage "i want to scare him"
https://youtu.be/e7WY2hKwVbk?si=kvsvk3qg-zxiG-fS&t=363
I know the AFPD is getting a lot of hate, but I dont hear many people talking about other government officials who are accomplices in this. [not sure if someone already said these point, but I'm going to say it anyway]
The county attorney made the request to redact those sections in the police audio and the police complied.
The county attorney reason was to protect identifying info. Yet, the unredacted audio does not have that. Instead, it has audio which hurts prosecutors case against Ben and hurts AFPD defense.
So is the county attorney protecting AFPD? Prosecutors? Judge who authorized a bogus search warrant for LEGO with the use of lethal force?
This is bigger than just the American Fork Police Department corruption. We have county attorney, prosecutors, judges involved too!
EDIT: I added extra line space for easier read.
This guy is using the same image as the other scammer
Calls himself Ramon Hernandez
Does anyone know if he's on Ben's crew?
If so, does anyone know if he promoted this on his socials?
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# scammer claim
Guy claims he cannot find Ben's account on GoFundMe, therefore, he's going to collect donations then take SOME money from this campaign and donate to Ben's GoFundMe.
# problem with his story
- He knows Ben's official GoFundMe page.
- on that page you can message Ben directly.
Therefore, he's lying about being unable to find Ben
# "donate SOME money from this campaign to Ben'?!?
This c0ck sucker trying to siphon donations from Ben's campaign into his own.
Fuck that guy!
Report his campaign!