u/Romance-Hater3000

It should come without any doubt that kids come first, right? They are the people you spawned, are responsible for, and instinctively inclined to care for more than anyone else. Out of all the platonic/familial bonds, the bond between parent and child has always been the love that was never overshadowed by romance in this fuckass amatonormative society. At least that's what I always thought. But no, I saw a shitton of reddit posts bullshitting about how spouses should come before kids, FUCKING KIDS, and none of those posts were controversial. That is, none had 0 upvotes, only more than that. I can honestly feel my faith in humanity slipping away. People are actually agreeing with this shit. No, it wasn't enough that romance and marriage pretty much replaces all the close platonic bonds in your life, but it also has to make sure it outranks your kids as well. The whole point of that fuckass relationship even existing in the first place. Quite some time ago, I was able to ignore a hugely popular post on r/unpopularopinion about the same "spouse before children", 34K upvotes in that stupid subreddit, quite the popular opinion huh? But now I just can't ignore this amatonormative BULLSHIT! I just needed a place to vent...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marriage/comments/1t1oueo/comment/oji0xdl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button -- I wanted to highlight this comment and its first reply. You know, couples get social approval, legal benefits, all the cultural significance, a stardardized arrangement where they literally spend every night together under the same roof, behind the same bedroom door, and if all that is still not enough, your damn relationship is more needy than the infant that resulted from it . How is it possible that you get to raise children together and still complain that blissful burden is driving you apart? It's not neglecting your children when you put your spouse before them but it sure as hell is spousal neglect if anyone comes before them, huh? IF ANYONE NEEDS TO HEAR THAT NOT BEING FIRST IS NOT GETTING NEGLECTED, ITS PARTNERS!!!!!! "Ohh maaaan, because of these needy kids I dont get to go on dates with my hubby anymoooore, how will our marriage ever prosper???" meanwhile, adult sibling relationships are starved to death from even the most basic affection because society deemed it too unfitting for a non-romantic relationship. Or best friends for that matter, some of you must have felt frustrated that your best friend, closest platonic person now has less time and effort for you because of their new relationship. Just wish more people placed more concern like this for their platonic bonds, the same way they worry for their marriage, TO THE POINT ITS ACCEPTABLE FOR A GROWN ASS PERSON TO COMPETE WITH THE NEEDS OF A CHILD.

>If the only time I spent with my partner was in bed I would be depressed as hell.

Sometimes, these fkers are just looking for an excuse to complain that their steak is too juicy. SOME PEOPLE LOSE FRIENDS, SIBLINGS OVER ROMANCE, MUCH LESS GETTING TO SEE THEM EVERY DAY. FUCK AMATONORMATIVITY!!!!!

I know many fans and also basically everyone in the crew besides Evan has been furious at Nogla at some point. And Nogla has some reputation of being a walking rage bait. I was just watching Tyler’s react video on Vanoss crew rage and while reacting to Puffer losing his shit at Nogla, he said “every one of us vicariously live through Puffer right there”. I dont know if i have many videos I missed out on or not, but the only time I ever saw Nogla as annoying was the off season gta 5 rocket launcher vs cars video. Are there any instances, sessions, or videos where you found Nogla hateable?

A friend of mine argued that a romantic partner is supposed to be “special” and more deserving of your time, dedication, love, wealth etc etc compared to anyone else. Now I don’t agree with that, namely because that just sounds completely unfair and bullshit, no matter what explanation you might try to offer. There is actual harm in having such a built-in relationship hierarchy after all, because what if I want to be close to my brother and just spend time with him but everyone and their mother goes “he is married, give the couple space” as if my needs for platonic affection is just less important. Like???? They’re saying being “enmeshed” and “emotional incest” is a real thing, like HUH????? Im not even so attached that im codependent, i know the difference. It’s like saying romance owns all the emotional closeness.

What I’m asking now is if you ever got into an argument like this or something similar, how did you respond? It feels like whenever a deeply amatonormative statement like this is made, i get so emotionally riled up I can’t respond reasonably.

It’s a whole other category of relationships that should be equally celebrated in all sense. Is there a historical or maybe political reason for this? Just curious. Happy Mother’s Day btw guys!

If it wasn’t popular, I wouldn’t pay attention. But oh boy is it really common for people to ignore all the other good things in their life and amount their life’s worth to only whether or not they kissed someone or swapped DNA. It’s quite concerning, but also belittles and downplays the platonic relationships in a person’s life. A person with friends, loving parents, and close siblings got no business saying they are “miserable” because they never had a relationship at the ripe old age of 23. I don’t know if I should blame this on America’s heavy individualistic ideals to “be your own person”, which hilariously disappears in a marriage, or general amatonormative pressure of society. It’s no one’s business if someone’s a virgin and still living with their parents, because where exactly is the shame in that? I feel like insecure people are spawning problems out of thin air for themselves. I can’t be the only one who sees this attitude as very irrational, selfish, and self-destructive.

“I am 26 and I have never kissed, still a virgin, still live with my parents. I am depressed, when will it get better?”

Complaints like these I just saw under a YT video about Gen Z and it really ticked me. Oh sure buddy, you have a family, a house, people who care about you and yet still just because you are not living separately with a partner instead, it is a cause for anguish. Like, the steak is too juicy and the lobster too buttery for them. Ts actually strips all empathy from me dude, and I got nothing but criticism to give.