▲ 54 r/rdr1

After competing both RDR1 and RDR2 I was absolutely blown away by RDR1 and felt that it had the better story, anyone else agree?

After doing my 2nd play through of RDR2 after a few years, I decided to play RDR1 for the first time and man did I find it amazing. I didn't think I would enjoy it much since I had already seen most of the major cutscenes online, and hated John and Abigail because of how boring I thought the epilogue was in 2, but I was pleasantly surprised and honestly believe the first just destroys the 2nd in terms of the story after completing the first game for the first time.

1. John's better in the 1st game than he is in the 2nd.

The first thing is John Marston himself. In RDR2 he's kind of this uneducated, dweeb kinda guy or at least a hot headed little brother to Arthur, that even by the epilogue didn't seem to change all that much from 1899 in terms of his general attitude and personality. This is one of the reasons I didn't feel that playing as him would be that interesting.

In the 2nd game however he's literally just a different character. He's this stoic, wise, articulate figure that's strictly no nonsense and has solid principles. He looks different, acts different, even walks different. It's weird because he's so different to the point where when I see RDR2 john I don't even think of the same guy as RDR1 john, in my mind they are just different people. This john is someone you feel is capable and respectable, as well as wise beyond his years and endearing, I could see now why so many were disappointed you didn't get to play as him in 2 when the trailers came out.

I felt that the banter between characters is also somewhat better written in the 1st game than second. I think this is largely because of how articulate and quips focused john is in the first game which is notably absent in the 2nd one. It's even commented by Abigail how john is always dropping little nuggets of wisdom, something noticeably absent from 2. He also has a larger vocabulary in the 1st.

This leads to some pretty endearing jokes about Abigail trying to trying to poison him with how bad her cooking is(present in the 2nd but I felt the jokes were communicated better in the 1st) or how jealous Abigail get's of Bonnie so she decides to go with john herself to see her.

There's also John's stern reassurance to Jack while hunting when jack is feeling inadequate as a man, showing john's emotional intelligence and caring nature, while RDR2 john doesn't seem to know what he's doing in this area.

2. The storytelling is much more human and holds your hand less.

When bonnie says goodbye to Marston and Abigail she never says a word but the story tells you clear as day what's going on without any sort of hand holding. Bonnie holds a prolonged stare once the couple goes away, and fidgets her feet on the ground. This let's us know she's deep in contemplation and likely held romantic feelings for Marston which was hinted at previously. This scene holds the melancholy of caring for someone so deeply but knowing fate won't permit you you to have the life with them you desire, or to see the person you desire drifting off into their own life while you stay stuck behind, holding onto the image of could have been.

In RDR2 it feels like your hand is held far too much. With Sadie the story and characters tell you over and over again how much of a badass she is. Literally is like 90% of her interactions with others, when it could have easily just been shown with just her actions. Almost as if rockstar doesn't trust us to be able to get that from actions alone.

3. The stranger missions were infinitely more interesting

By far my favorite feature of 1st is how you get to go to a stranger and only later do you decide if you want to do their quest. It kind of sucked to be stuck in a mission in 2 you don't care for but feel you have to complete because you already accepted it and it's already making you do something as soon as you walk up to them.

Many of the stranger missions in 2 were tedious and boring. Like collecting dinosaur bones, the two guys trying to impress the girl, and so on. Only a few like the mad scientist and the electric chair one were interesting.

In contrast I felt most of the stranger missions in 1 were interesting. I was really curious if that guy could actually fly in his makeshift plane, or what the hell the strange man was? The creepy and mysterious stuff in 2 like the serial killer mystery that ends anticlimactically don't hold a candle to the strange man, or some of the other rdr1 stuff which is another bonus.

4. There are many character mistakes in RDR2 that are absent in RDR1

RDR1 was very concise with it's characters and their role in the story. RDR2 had several instances of hypocrisy while narratively painting certain characters as good despite their obvious bad actions.

Like how Sadie is painted as one of the good guys, but get's the balloon guy killed with her plan and literally cares nothing of it. Or leads john back into the life to get revenge even while knowing it wasn't what Arthur wanted and endangers his life as a married man with a family.

Knowing that Sadie could possibly be the reason john get's found out and killed is enough of a reason for me to dislike her. The story narratively painting her as a dear friend to John and one of the good people in the end that sided with Arthur is kind of annoying.

Charles is also rich for being part of a group of murdering thieving outlaws while getting mad that people kill animals for sport, and provokes an interaction that leads to the death of two men because of it. He's painted as one of the good guys too but his hypocrisy is a bit much.

Finally there's Arthur who kicks out strauss because he feels money lending is cruel, yet guns down a whole village of men in strawberry to help micah get his guns.

5. The ending and conclusion of RDR1 was miles better than 2.

The second game ended with a cinematic death and a strong silver lining in the fact john's family escaped.

The first ended with a grim betrayal and tragic death. It had the guts to be bleak and end on the most depressing note possible for the game.

Additionally you emotion and character that John displays where he looks at all the men waiting for him, slowly catches his breath, and opens the door is nothing short of amazing. You can see the hesitation, the fear, and finally the resolve and acceptance of his life, choices, and of his fate.

The sharp, narrow breaths leaving his mouth after being gunned down sounds undignified the same way real death is, adding another tragic dimension in the fact his death was brutal unlike arthur's sunset.

The family finding his remains is equally tragic, and Jack collecting himself to comfort his mother shows his strength as well.

By far my favorite scene in the entire game is the clip showing John's grave, then panning over to Abigails, which hits you with a double gut punch. Seeing both graves together, knowing everything that you went through, and how good of people they were in the end seems disturbingly tragic.

Becoming Jack after was the cherry on the pie. Looking at the graves and seeing both your parent's lying there, and the once busy house empty because of their loss is depressing in just too real of a way, and really makes you feel something in your heart.

Of course the actual game is much better in RDR2. The world is much more immersive, detailed, large, and interactive. The gameplay loop in 1 is just shootout after shootout that felt highly repetitive after a while so there's no debate there, but in regards to the story the first game really knocks the second out of the water in my opinion.

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u/SaintlyDestiny — 9 days ago

Anime watcher since 2014 who also stopped watching in 2021, thoughts on my 3v3?

Ik avatar isn't an anime but It's the best animation in my opinion.

u/SaintlyDestiny — 2 months ago

Anime where the main character is brought into the Isekai world by someone from that world?

Instead of the main character dying, or falling into a well or something else like that, that triggers them to go to another world, someone from another world travels to theirs to take them there.

An example could be someone who is working a regular job, and people come over and drags them away, stating they need their "hidden power" or something like that to defeat their enemy, or maybe that they were someone strong and got amnesia and forgot about all their friends in the other world or something and they're taking them home.

Not specifically those premises but I wanted to paint a picture of what i mean.

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u/SaintlyDestiny — 3 months ago

Failed SWE graduate... now at rock bottom broke levels, what should I do to get a decent job?

I graduated 2024 with a degree in software engineering, along with a few certs in tech related fields, but those have probably expired by now so I don't count them.

I pretty much have only worked as a bus boy and cashier, I failed pretty miserably at those jobs because I'm terrible at keeping up with people and grunt work.

Ever since I graduated, I have had over 500 applications rejected, there is no tech scene in my city so I can't get a related IT job, trust me I already tried, and I don't even have the money to move out of my city if I wanted to. Beyond this AI is rapidly destroying my industry, and I see no long term future in it and want to do something else.

I only chose SWE because I wanted a cushy job with a ton of money. I spent so long working for it, only for the market to collapse. I just want a job with a relatively decent amount of money 60k plus, that doesn't make me hate my life and doesn't force me to do physical labor.

Preferably I would also not want to study 4 more years for another job and want it to do something I can learn relatively quickly maybe 2 years max. If there isn't anything like this, honestly I'll probably just work enough to move to a monastery in tibet, it's fine.

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u/SaintlyDestiny — 4 months ago
▲ 20 r/Naruto

Who is a character that you used to dislike when you were younger, but later found relatable and understood them more as you got older?

Orochimaru originally felt like the creepiest dude alive to me, and I couldn't understand his motivations at all, because they didn't involve friendship, love, or the usual human goals, he just seemed like some weird dude who fell out of what it meant to be human.

I now feel like he's one of the most relatable dudes in the entire show.

I have an interest in acquiring many new talents. From chess to music to editing to boxing, I just want to master and experience so many things, yet each usually takes years to even become somewhat good at, I want to learn this this and that subject, yet each takes a lifetime to understand. There simply isn't enough time in the world to learn and experience everything, or even 1% of the world. Immortality in this lens, is a savior to this bleakness.

There's also fear involved in the idea of death and suffering that most seem to brush off, it's terrifying and I feel that if there was such a thing as immortality then it would make sense to chase after it, even at the cost of abandoning the typical things that make you human, fitting in, community, friendship, even love. The traditional markers of human happiness and purpose pale in comparison to what true immortality would mean.

We saw orochimaru see Tsunade's brother die, and her lover. He saw how fragile love and human bonds really are. How things that matter deeply to us can be taken in a moment, and how these things will eventually all fade away anyway, they are impermanent, so his decision to not take these values to heart like most others make sense. There is no reason to putting all your eggs into a basket you know will eventually break, it would make more sense to develop a basket that never would.

To this end I feel like orochimaru is somewhat relatable now, still creepy, but understandable.

u/SaintlyDestiny — 4 months ago
▲ 10 r/Naruto

Episode 185 of Naurto is one of the best episodes of the entire series, I almost couldn't believe it was filler, it was wasted potential to make it non canon

This Episode features the animal Condor the Ostrich, an animal that learned taijutsu and had a very compelling motivation and personality.

Seriously If you haven't watched this episode you need to, Candor is just insane despite the appearances.

Candor to me seems like a high tier villain maybe not in terms of moveset but in terms of writing potential and uniqueness, that could have worked in say the Akatsuki, Sasuke retrieval as an agent of Orochimaru, or something similar. I wouldn't go as far to say he should have had his own arc, but just that he should have been made canon.

Does anyone disagree? or agree? I thought the episode was better than a lot of others, like sasori/deidara or hidan heavy episodes.

u/SaintlyDestiny — 4 months ago

Any anime with a really compelling villain who's identity isn't revealed until further in the series?

Something like Obito from Naruto? I felt heavily interested in him since his identity is a central mystery for the majority of the series, and they have a very emotional backstory, great motivation, design, and a genuine sense of both evil and compassion.

Moreover the way he plays the fool in the beginning to suddenly revealing he's the big villian, to later revealing that he actually isn't them, and was who he actually was is a masterpiece of storytelling in my opinion.

I wanted to know if anyone knows of a similar villain that really stood out in a series and creates a compelling mystery.

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u/SaintlyDestiny — 4 months ago