u/SlainFromFoundation

Interview is from the brutality podcast interview with rose funeral. I’ve also noticed all these post-deathcore bands sound identical and think it’s part of the reason it’s stagnated recently in terms of growth while the modern deathcore bands like psycho-frame, killing of a sacred deer, and peacemaker fl along with the MySpace deathcore scene like rev3rent, Eyesawgod, Katywentmissing, etc have such an exponential growth rate in comparison. It was cool for the first couple months when it was new and unique, but it quickly became an unoriginal oversaturated and overproduced sound with no personality and the lack of hardcore elements and mosh makes it lack the energy and fun that makes Deathcore stick around in peoples playlists and want to go to the same bands shows multiple times.

How’s the mix on this? On our EP in an attempt to bring up the low end a bit the tracks got a bit muddy and also the 808s clipped way too much

Afraid I may have overcorrected a bit
Using a reference track for some reason isn’t translating to after the tracks are rendered then with the phone/car/headphone test which is why it wasn’t caught with the EP

Thanks in advance

Combination of Elysia, with blood comes cleansing, rev3rent, amulet, Chelsea grin, scythe of grim, old bmth, impending doom, girl of glass, some beatdown thrown in too
Super moshy

https://open.spotify.com/album/3yn9gY5wGL2u4TjtfacWgB?si=FV7TEkRpSOayokyDYE1CgA

So I’m trying to get some feedback/constructive criticism on a couple things regarding our first EP we will be officially dropping after finishing up one last song later this month. Three of the songs are old songs from our demo that have been either remixed or a combination of some re-recording and remixing. The rest are new.

I’m trying to get an idea about a few things:

Mixing: does the mixing seem at least relatively consistent across the songs? Or do any blatantly stand out. Personally I think something is off with the intro but can’t place my finger on it, but also the song post traumatic seems like it might need more low end? So aside from overall song loudness differences (which will be fixed via volume normalization when uploaded to streaming services) does anything stand out like a sore thumb? Are the vocals too high or low, and if so is it the highs or lows? Only a certain part? Etc.

Flow of the order of songs: there is a somewhat consistent but still noticeable difference in certain aspects of the songs- some are faster and more of the hxc oriented side of deathcore, some are a bit more beatdown-ish with a typical deathcore sound, some have a bit more riffs parts- etc. the goal is for the EP to flow so there isn’t too much whiplash causing it to sound like there isn’t any consistency.
Also seeing as how half the songs are old ones it doesn’t seem like a good idea to have too many of them in a row- but currently they are all three in a row due to wanting the EP to flow well as long as start off with a newer song that will grab attention. So far the goal is to put the last song we are recording as the third to last song which would break it up pretty well and is similar to the two after it.

Also just generally “does anything sound off or awkward?” Been thinking about potentially completely redoing the intro because something just seems off about it, but it could just be the vocals being a bit high in the mix?

I’m aware this isn’t gonna be some people’s cup of tea, it’s MySpace deathcore with alot of hxc influence so I’m not trying to ask if anyone “likes it” necessarily, just trying to get some feedback on the more objective (while it’s still bit subjective I think these things are generally more objective) .

Here is a link to a SoundCloud playlist that isn’t an official release or anything, just one used for personal testing of the things mentioned before and to also send to people for feedback etc.

Edit: also, the drums are all VST

TIA

https://on.soundcloud.com/CgGwfLIass0LTygjrk

Since people think if you don’t show off when doing a tutorial on how to do the very basics of getting distortion for screams, here is a reference of what my actual screams- not just showing how to get distortion- sound like.

Idk why some people can’t comprehend that when you are trying to show someone the basics you should probably just do the basics too- but anyways, this is what my actual screams sound like.

The stuff in the tutorials is just what step one of getting distortion sounds like

First and foremost I do think you should try a method that most vocal coaches typically use to teach screams… at first. But if you’re having trouble and are doing like 5 steps to try and figure it out- you’re over complicating it. These vocal coaches have to make content every day- they’re gonna find a million cues and different ways to teach so they can make a new post every day- it does NOT mean that any of those steps are necessary and it definitely doesn’t mean you have to use all of them.
This is a dumbed down “how to scream” for people that are stuck even when using all the different things the typical vocal coach on YouTube says to do.

The most common problem it seems is people trying to literally turn kargyrra or vocal fry into a scream- for some people it can be useful to lean into those and turn it into a scream- but most of the time it’s unnecessary unless you want to just know where you should feel the distortion. We aren’t LITERALLY turning vocal fry into a fry scream or kargyrra into a false chord- they just use the same anatomy that screams use to make the distortion.

Also- you don’t want to get in the habit of having a bunch of steps before you do a scream- THAT is how you get hurt. Making it over complicated means you’re more likely to do it wrong- you want to figure out an intuitive way to do it that doesn’t require a checklist

If what you see on YouTube videos or this video isn’t intuitive and doesn’t work DONT dwell on any single cue or process- just move on and try a new one. Don’t try to combine all this stuff- most of it is just a way to try and get you to do the right thing, it’s NOT necessary for you to be able to do the right thing.

If anything I say to try hurts or doesn’t work- don’t do it and move on.

Also I know my frys aren’t the best, I hate them and literally only do them when talking about how much I hate fry screams or when explaining to someone how to do them

Video for attention but obviously there are more types of mosh parts than this. Curious what everyone likes the most. Personally I like when the body of the song has a lot of two steps and the bouncy toe touch parts with fast tempo and mid tempo breakdowns- don’t care much for circle pit parts, side to side parts, and definitely not down tempo breakdowns(they never hit live, even tho people online seem to like them a lot).
Gang vocals and pileup parts are also tons of fun, sometimes if it’s done right the dead space can be really cool and effective too.
As long as there aren’t too many blast beat riff salad parts or psuedo-breakdowns in the song it’s usually really fun live

But yeah, what’s your favorite type of mosh part?

I think I need new EQ settings, the lows sound weird. Less loud and textured than they should sound and less than they do on camera audio.
Probably should have left the inhale layer at the beginning out since it didn’t sync up so well but whatever

Got off time and the vocal removal software for the instrumental made it impossible to mix decently and still hear the instrumental but oh well

Should probably redo it without rushing it and do better lows but it’s good enough, I’m excited

Didn’t know this subreddit exists so now I can ask questions without feeling like I’m just doing a bunch of self promo in the deathcore sub lol

This is a zero budget lyrics teaser- but I want to know if it’s too cringe and/or cheap looking to use for promo on instagram etc where people that know me will see it lol (I have no problem playing shows, but when it comes to creative stuff like this I don’t have the most confidence). Working on a limited budget and would prefer to the budget being used for recording and producing an actual EP etc than say, $300 for a professionally done lyric video

Any criticism appreciated- including about the mix of the song etc

If anyone’s interested it’s called post traumatic (hematidrosis) by slain from foundation