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Bonnie Blue names her baby after an online gambling site...

There’s no denying it, Bonnie Blue is a degenerate, low-life parasite.

Not because of her extraordinarily liberal approach to sex work, frankly I don’t care about that – live and let live, I say.

She’s a degenerate, because of her complete lack of care, compassion, or even interest in the wellbeing of her own community, particularly men, or even her own child.

Her interest is simple and singular – herself.

And she’ll do, sell, or promote anything, and everything, if it puts a few more grubby coins in her back pocket.

Most recently, and it shocks me to even say this, but she allegedly auctioned off the naming rights to her newborn baby, in a sickening online circus act, that raised 1.2 million dollars from the winning bidder – an online gambling company (whose name I am not going to share).

And so her baby is named after a gambling site.

Confused, shocked, and saddened, the mainstream media sought out this gambling site, to ask them why they would part with 1.2 million dollars, so they can destroy a baby’s life, and permanently associate themselves with someone of such low moral character as Bonnie.

Well, an unknown spokesperson “Leo” stepped forward, and provided an answer that, somehow, sent them tumbling down the ladder of moral bankruptcy. Dropping them several rungs lower than even Bonnie herself.

And you simply won’t believe what they said.

A company no less parasitic as she is, from an industry which has destroyed more lives than they can even count.

So what is to be said and done about the devastating harm the gambling industry has inflicted upon society, and what made them part with more than a million dollars, as part of some sickening online stunt, with an innocent baby at its centre?

Well let’s find out…

~

Seek help at gamblingwithlives.org
Full article https://metro.co.uk/2026/09/25/asked-a-gambling-site-paid-1-2m-name-bonnie-blues-baby-response-wild-29649431/

u/Specific_Detective41 — 16 days ago
▲ 548 r/everydaymisandry+4 crossposts

What's going on in Italy?

As sad and disheartening as ‘men’s issues’ are, there is actually something worse…

And that is, the chronic lack of political will and interest in addressing such issues.

For example, male suicide remains the biggest risk to life for all men under fifty, claiming more than half a million (!!) men’s lives worldwide each year.

That number is impossibly large, and truly staggering.

But what is somehow more shocking, is that when national plans are announced to help combat suicide – such as earlier this month in Italy – somehow suicidal men are routinely left in the cold, with women made a ‘priority’ group instead.

That’s right…

Despite men being 78% of suicides in Italy, women will be one of the primary beneficiaries of Italia’s recently announced ‘National Plan for Suicide Prevention’ instead.

And for me, that is the most shocking part of this whole space.

It’s not that:
Men’s health is now worse than women’s by nearly every metric…

Or that boys are behind at every stage of Western education…

Or that men dominate in homelessness, incarceration, workplace fatalities, suicide, drug deaths, and as victims of violent crime…

The most shocking thing is that, when it comes to political conversation, all we seem to get is tumbleweed.

Of course –

This is doubly disorientating, as we are routinely told that “men” are the ones who benefit from political power, that men are the ones systemically privileged; and that men have built the system and written the laws, for eternity, as part of some omnipotent patriarchal male oppressor class.

Such claims certainly sound good on social media, or when bravely bellowed by your local feminist campaigner; but in reality, where our men and boys are silently crushed by both public and political malaise, such slogans seem embarrassingly far from the truth.

So why do our politicians and ministers keep on betraying vulnerable men?

And what on earth is going on in Italy right now?

What do you think?

~

Source:
Italian policy announcement https://www.salute.gov.it/new/it/news-e-media/notizie/10-settembre-giornata-mondiale-la-prevenzione-del-suicidio/

78% of suicides in Italy are male https://countryeconomy.com/demography/mortality/causes-death/suicide/italy

Ana Redondo, “morally, ethically and constitutionally” wrong https://www.esdiario.com/nacional/240509/135661/ministra-igualdad-ana-redondo-hombres.html

Ana Redondo, “frivolous” waste of money https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/13/male-rape-centre-waste-of-money-spain-equality-ministry/

Aurore Bergé rejects request for first support line for abused men https://questions.assemblee-nationale.fr/q17/17-8484QE.htm

Jess Phillips laughs at mens issues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XX6ATwQv7Q&feature=youtu.be

u/Kuato2012 — 23 days ago
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Debunking: "Misogyny reaching almost every classroom!"

Yet another terrifying headline is stoking fear around boys, and the so-called ‘MANOSPHERE!’

It’s reaching ‘every classroom’ in the land, as an ‘alarming rise in misogyny’ sweeps across Australia.

“Nearly four in five teachers” have witnessed, or experienced ‘gendered violence’ in school…

Scary… right?

Well, not necessarily.

As such a finding hinges entirely on what you consider ‘gendered violence’?

Because –

You’d be forgiven for assuming such a word refers to acts of physical or sexual violence, or perhaps repeated attempts to intimidate or coerce…

But that’s not the definition that this new report uses – which also considers ‘sexist jokes’, ‘remarks’ and even ‘dismissing a woman’s opinion’, as ‘gendered violence’ too.

Imagine that – to disagree with a woman’s opinion could now be an act of violence against her, and also toward those who witnessed it.

It’s certainly a rather low and subjective bar for such a serious issue – and one that I am sure many of us have crossed in our lives.

I mean, did you ever disagree with a female teacher in school?

Did you ever challenge her opinion?

I know I did – teachers both male and female.

So why are we taking what could easily be low-level acts of boyish inquisitiveness, and mixing the data in with serious acts of sexual violence?

Well perhaps it is to create a problem that doesn’t exist: to secure more funding, more investment, more pay rises, and more money, for more nonsense research – that’s why.

So is dismissing a woman’s opinion inherently an act of gendered violence?

Is this the conversation our boys need?

What do you think?

~

Full report https://bridges.monash.edu/articles/report/Duty_of_Care_Teachers_experiences_of_sexism_misogyny_and_sexual_harassment_in_Australian_schools/32942816?file=67900542

u/Specific_Detective41 — 1 month ago
▲ 365 r/TheTinMen+1 crossposts

Were men the guinea pigs of modern medicine?

Behind every slogan is a world of detail that the social media universe fails to understand.

Why have nuance, when you can have outrage?

Why offer explanation, when you can offer anger?

Why help people be smarter, when you can do the opposite?

One of these slogans, that I hear far too much, is the claim that –

“Women were excluded from clinical drug trials until 1993!”

And yes, generally that is true.

But what is so often missing is: which women, from what phases, and most importantly – why?

Was such exclusion done for good reasons, or malicious ones?

Was it intended to harm women, or was it intended to protect them?

Was there anything that happened, to precipitate such a decision?

Well, we cannot know the answers until we are willing to understand the context – which is usually the first thing to fall by the wayside, when such discussions occur…

So why were women excluded from drug trials?

Which women?

And from what phases?

Let’s talk about it…

~

Sex of participants in NIH funded research, James Nuzzo https://jameslnuzzo.substack.com/p/sex-of-participants-in-nih-funded

u/Specific_Detective41 — 1 month ago
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Lindsay Clancy: What is Hypoagency?

It’s the story that’s impossible to ignore.

The tragic story of Lindsay Clancy, who killed her three children, and whose fate hangs in the balance at this very moment..

But, it was not the brutal and shocking killing of her beautiful children that made such a case stand out, but rather, what happened next…

Right now – there are global protests, not in horror of what happened, but in support of Lindsay.

Rallies, marches and gatherings, as (mostly women) dressed all in pink stand in solidarity, and support, of a woman who committed unthinkable acts of violence to her three innocent children.

‘Youre a good mom’, reads one sign.
‘You were brave’, says another.

Social media is alight with anger in opposition to such scenes, but again, also echos its support; as comments are thrown about like frisbees, speculating on her mental health, her psychological faculties, her actions, her star sign, and even conspiracies that try to pin blame entirely on her husband instead.

“HE DID IT!” I saw again and again.

“A Leo would never do that to her children!”

As of writing this: a GoFundMe page has raised an incredible $1.12 MILLION, much of it in support of Lindsay.

Whilst relationships, and even marriages combust, as the case is fiercely debated in living rooms and across kitchen tables right across America.

So yes –

You may have your own opinion on Lindsay’s psychological status, but one thing seems clear – this would not be happening if it were a man in court for these kind of crimes.

So let’s talk about agency, and who’s given too little, and who is handed too much…

What do you think?

~
Sentencing bias https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/research-publications/2017/20171114_Demographics.pdf

u/Specific_Detective41 — 1 month ago
▲ 317 r/StrongMaleSurvivors+2 crossposts

Men, what didn't you realise was abuse?

Men are less likely to report their abuse to the police, and if they do, the police are less likely to record it as ‘abuse’ (particularly male officers).

And if they do, it’s less likely to lead to a charge, and if it does, it’s less likely to lead to a prosecution, and even then, it’s less likely to lead to a guilty verdict.

All of these biases filter abused men out of criminal stats (which is how ’90% of people prosecuted for abuse are male’).

But before all of this happens, something else shapes the landscape against men, before the they are failed by the judicial system, or the police, or even before they ask for help.

And that is –

Men are less likely to even recognise abusive behaviour as ‘abuse’; and instead call it ‘one of those days’, or ‘shes a bit wild’, or ‘a crazy ex’, or ‘just very passionate’, or even ‘happy wife, happy life’…

So with that in mind, I ask the men: what did you think was ‘normal’ behaviour in a relationship, before you realised it was abuse?

What do you think?

u/Intelligent-Bird-313 — 1 month ago

Online Sleuthing Is Out of Control, and the Vitriol Against Patrick Clancy Proves It

Here's another article detailing the online backlash Patrick Clancy has received. This is also nothing new as the author of this article highlights several high profile cases in recent years that tik tok true crime weirdos have also accused the man of being the perpetrator.

It's misandry to assume that every man in a high profile case is a suspect or a murderer even if he has been cleared by law enforcement of any wrongdoing. I hope Patrick wins any future lawsuits against the tik tok mob and other media houses who are constantly smearing him.

The saddest part of this whole case is how the children are constantly dehumanised, hardly even mentioned and if they are these people will mention them in relation to Lindsay in order to excuse her involvement in killing her own children.

variety.com
u/Specific_Detective41 — 1 month ago
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The backlash against the Office of Men's Health has begun...

Time and time again, men are told, if they want change, they should “go and do it themselves”.

If you want abuse shelters, then build them.

If you want a conversation for men’s issues, go and start it.

And if you want policy for men’s health, then start writing it.

It’s actually good advice, and advice many men have taken seriously.

The problem is, what so often happens when men do these things?

What happens when men open shelters?
What happens when men campaign for support, or ask for funding?
What happens when men set up “men’s spaces” or talk groups?

Well, things change –

Now, a voice (and usually the same voice that told them to “do it yourselves”) shouts them down, pickets, pillories, and protests, and causes so much havoc that these new, embryonic efforts, are beaten into submission and stomped upon, until they are utterly destroyed, beyond repair.

We’re seeing it right now.

A new Bill to form America’s first Office on Men’s Health: to try and quell the deluge of early death, to address suicide and addiction in men, to fund research into male-specific cancers, and tackle the stigma around mental health, has been progressing further and further.

Such an Office will work alongside the (at least) EIGHT Offices that already do these things for Women’s Health, but will provide additional dedicated, tax-funded, national research for men.

And then it happened.

The outrage brigade rolls into town, drunk with anger and entitlement, and hell-bent on destroying yet another well-meaning effort to help men and boys.

The same yells and threats, the same attempts at blackmail, the same chronic victimhood; the same naive slogans, belched from the same ignorant mouths.

We are watching it in real time, and we can only hope that those brave senators and politicians have the strength to ignore the trolls, and carry on undeterred.

We need them to carry on.

Because the policy they are asking for is life-saving, and transformative, and deserves to be passed.

So what is to be said about this new Bill to open an Office on Men’s Health, and how can we push back against the bigotry that threatens to snuff it out once again?

What do you think?

Sources

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953624003071
[2] https://aibm.org/research/six-facts-on-mens-health-from-aibm/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
[3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/04/17/mens-health-longevity-gap/
[4] https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/7602/text

u/Specific_Detective41 — 1 month ago
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Is Rwanda a female utopia?

For years, people have been fawning over the utopian idea of “a world run by women”.

You see –

If only women were sat in the seats of power, then all the world’s ills would melt away; because “men” are the problem, and women are the solution (or “future”), so no more questions.

Such proponents of this thinly veiled female supremacy often point to countries like Rwanda; a one-of-a-kind country where about two thirds of the lower house are women – highlighting the country’s impressive outcomes within healthcare, education, poverty and child mortality.

Intuitively, such an argument seems to make sense.

Rwanda’s lower house has been majority female for more than a decade, and it’s true, many of the graphs of progress are trending in the right direction; poverty and child mortality are down, education is up, as is health insurance, so what’s not to like?

Well –

First, these transformations in poverty, child mortality, education and healthcare, are not just happening in Rwanda, but across the entire developing world.

Yet this quiet, hard won progress is rarely discussed, let alone celebrated, unless those achieving it are women.

So yes Rwanda is doing well, but so are many, many other countries of Africa, who nobody talks about.

Second, those who pedestalise Rwanda choose those metrics carefully, and have ignored the many others where Rwanda sadly lags behind; such as employment, political freedom, secondary school, child malnutrition, and freedom of the press.

And third, just because Rwanda is doing well in many areas, and just because most of its politicians are women, doesn’t mean one is causing the other.

We saw this same correlation vs causation assumption when “countries run by women” were credited as handling the COVID pandemic better, which didn’t stand up to further scrutiny either…

So why do so many deify matriarchal countries?

And is the real road to utopia not one of female or male supremacy, but one of a team effort, that combines the best of both?

What do you think?

u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago
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Would you abuse a man to avoid nuclear war?

Is abuse or harassment ever acceptable?

What if abusing someone avoids a larger conflict? Or if it saves a person’s life? What if an act of abuse would prevent a nuclear apocalypse?

Is it justifiable then?

Well, the answer to that might be obvious to you and me, but when it comes to the latest artificial intelligence LLMs, the answer is not what you expect… At least, not when it comes to the abuse and harassment of women.

Yup, in a 2024 study of gender bias in AI LLMs, GPT-4 was crystal clear: abuse and harassment against women were entirely unacceptable, no matter the consequences, and even if that includes preventing total nuclear war.

Incredible.

Of course, as you might expect, the same LLM was a lot more lenient when it came to the abuse of men, with it being far more open to justifying abuse against male recipients “for the greater good”, than it was for females.

And more interestingly again, the same study seemed to find that these gender biases were not down to sexist data used to train the AI models, but rather, it was a byproduct of post-training tinkering, that was motivated by ‘inclusivity efforts’.

And I know –

These moral dilemmas are extreme, and might seem irrelevant in the context of everyday life – but could they reveal deep biases within the next generation of AIs that sees men and women as fundamentally different?

What do you think?

Read the full study here https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2451958824001660

u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago

Lindsay Clancy admits to killing their children. So why is there an online groundswell blaming her husband, Patrick? | CNN

Patrick Clancy faced a lot of internet backlash after he took to the witness stand several weeks ago.

Many internet tik tok detectives (and misandrists) have made defamatory statements and false allegations of him committing the crimes of killing his own children. That is despite the fact that both the prosecution and defense including Lindsay admit to the killings of the children. It only has to be proven whether she killed them due to psychosis or whether it was predetermined.

The CNN article highlights that Patrick has faced harassment due to the internet mob blaming him for the killings. It has affected his personal life and as well as his family's. He has seeked legal action and is planning to sue some prominent content creators for making defamatory remarks against him. This is misandry at insane levels all because Patrick is a man. This would have never been the case if the genders were swapped.

Its very disconcerting given the support he had for Lindsay and the fact that he faced grief after losing his 3 kids.

edition.cnn.com
u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago

Can the Male Still Gaze?

This showed up on my feed recently. I used to watch this channel because the YouTuber had some very thorough takes on Christopher Nolan films and anti war films. But lately with his content, its been pretty much feminist coded.

This video, comprises of a long convoluted narrative about the "male gaze", what it was and now what it has become, that now its less about sexualising women and more about looking inward (that was the implication). Sure films like Transformers had to be called out. However, nothing is about about male actors who are sexualised in films and series. I remember Kit Harrington from GOT was sexualised a lot, even to the point that Natalie Dormer pointed that out back in 2015, in this article: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/aug/11/natalie-dormer-game-of-thrones-men-objectified-women-tv.

Then there's actors who had to go on crazy diets to be muscular and run around shirtless in movie scenes like Henry Cavil, Hugh Jackman and Chris Evans, yet you never see feminists ever mention that and if they do they just blame the patriarchy on that.

Many women also sexualise these men as well. There's tons of commentary on these men's bodies on social media. I find it sexist that there's the assumption that women's sexuality is pure yet men's sexuality is often perceived as degenerate. Will this guy ever make commentry about women sexualising men? Or how depraved romantasy slop is? No probably not because he's pushing a narrative.

Halfway through the video he brings up the film Shame (2011), a film about a closeted sex addict. In this context, why is male gaze an issue, a sex addict already has a problem with their sexual health.

Then he brings up Baby Reindeer (2024), a film about a stand up comedian who was sexually assaulted by a man and soon afterwards a woman who also stalked / harrassed Richard Gadd. Like Stories of Old only mentions the male perpetrator and not the female perpetrator. Also somehow other films listed in this video featuring gay men/ same sex relationships, that is male gaze too 🙄.

At this point in time we need less pretentious feminist slop and more acknowledgment that both men and women can be sexual, perverted, predatory, decent people or shitty human beings. I am disappointed that this channel is slowly becoming a male feminist slanted youtube channel (that I already see way too much of).

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u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago
▲ 366 r/TheTinMen+1 crossposts

Are women in prison less violent?

This idea of the inherent, irredeemable badness of men, and the virtuous, moral superiority of women has got to end.

The immutable, cartoon-worldview that insists women are saints and men are sinners, that is prevalent in the media; is a tiring, unwelcome set of stereotypes, that helps nobody.

I saw it recently on LBC, when host Shelagh Fogarty interviewed esteemed economist Vicky Pryce about “women in prison”, and how such women are usually non-violent, battling mental health issues, and are often victims of abuse in their on right.

Such things are usually a preamble to advocacy to “close women’s prisons”, or empty them of all but the most violent women.

And I quite agree.

Prison has failed women, but do you know who its failed even more? Men.

Men, who make up 96% of the prison population, who are never mentioned by those like Shelagh, and are instead left to waste away in a broken carceral system.

And it’s not just naive talkshow hosts and their dogmatic guests saying it; policy advisors, ministers, journalists, and political leaders, all join a chorus of similar statements.

Empty women’s prisons… and leave incarcerated men to rot.

And so, you’d be forgiven for thinking men in prison don’t share these same experiences of abuse, victimhood, and addiction that women in prison suffer from.

Or for assuming that, unlike women, men in prison are all violent criminals, who should be locked away for good.

But the realty, as it so often is, is far from this.

So are men in prison all irredeemable, violent thugs, and therefore not worthy of a mention?

Let’s take a look…

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UK Prison statistics https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/offender-management-statistics-quarterly-october-to-december-2025

u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago
▲ 235 r/TheTinMen+1 crossposts

Why don't abused men ask for help?

I know your local instagram armchair expert will claim to know why so many male victims of abuse don’t seek help (yada yada “toxic masculinity”), but in reality, very little research has been done to ask such an question.

But what we do know is –

Male victims of abuse are two and a half times less likely to ask for help than female victims, and not only does that deafening silence preclude such men from potentially life saving services, but it also removes them from much of the data that society continually uses to discuss such a issue.

Men don’t seek help, and therefore less help is given to them, and therefore fewer men seek help, and yup, as a consequence, less help is given again.

It’s a brutal self-fulfilling cycle that rolls over abused men, and has erased them from the picture for generations.

And so it would seem that solving the problem of ‘barriers to male help seeking’, is one of extreme importance and pressing urgency; and the good news is that various academics, including the world-leading IPV professor Denise Hines, have answered the call.

Their new study scales up the research to unprecedented levels, asking more than 1,100 men, who were abused by women: “what are the major barriers you experienced when seeking help?”

And their responses tell us far more than what we thought we knew…

Shame, concern for being labeled an abuser, fear of retaliation, or of false allegations in response; not knowing where to go, hopelessness, love and protection of their abuser, and feeling like domestic abuse is a “private matter”, to name a handful of the dozens of barriers abused men provided.

So could this data help increase the resolution of a conversation that for so long, has been gatekept by sloganeering social media know-it-alls?

And is it about time we asked the male victims themselves, why do so few ask for help?

What do you think?

~
Full study https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2027-52236-001.html

u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago

Misandry in Paris Paloma's music

I previously posted this onto LWMA.

After constantly hearing the song Labour by Paris Paloma from various YT shorts / TikTok reels I decided to look into this musician in more detail.

Paris Paloma has a history of making problematic statements about boys/men in interviews and in her songs. Here the focus will be on Labour.

Interviews with the media

Paris Paloma identifies as a feminist (unsurprising like most in the music industry), however she is a special type of feminist you see, because she has read Bell Hooks, she is not like all the other feminists and she is fighting the patriarchy by saving men from themselves /s. By the way, that doesn't make her any less misandrist than the vast majority of feminists. In fact this type of mentality is no different to that of Evangelical Christians and other religious zealots. Like most terminally online feminists, she has read Hooks' The Will To Change - of course she has.

She stated in an interview with People that "I reference her specifically so much because she speaks with such love about men whilst being the harshest critic of patriarchy and toxic masculinity. She is all about practically what a future looks like where all the genders are reconciled and patriarchy is undone in that way,". Note that this was in reference to her starting to write love songs. Seriously, is loving men or writing songs about loving men now treated as a crime?

In this other interview with The Independent she complains about toxic masculinity, tradwives on social media and online misogyny, typical celeb PR stuff you know. She has referenced Kate Bush's song, Army Dreamers, a song about men who were duped by government propaganda to fight in wars, you know an ongoing issue throughout time and a topic that is brought up often on this subreddit.

Here, she trivialises issues such as mandatory conscription and makes it about "toxic masculinity". Her direct quote: "It's one of my favourite songs on the album because toxic masculinity is a massive tragedy, and I wanted to write something that reflected that," she said. "No one wins – young boys are thrown to the wolves, they enlist as soldiers and die for no reason." yeah the decisions made by unscrupulous politicians, that is just toxic masculinity or men dying as a result. That's all what it is. My God this woman is so insufferable and pretentious.

In her interview about the song Good Boy it's the typical run of the mill commentary about men falling for Andrew Tate, upholding traditional masculine roles, that feminists like her still uphold with their bigotry. Paris also whines further about trying to save them from becoming misogynists and that they need feminism. She is arrogant and dismissive of men's issues that in the lyrics of this song, she compares boys/men to Pavlovian dogs and how apparently gullible they are to Red Pill/Trad Ideology, as if that encapsulates all of what boys/men go through on the daily. She also disingenuously paints the subset of elite and/or predatory men to the entire demographic of boys/men, which is typical of feminists like her.

Lyrics

Labour

One, two, three

Why are you hanging on so tight
To the rope that I'm hanging from?
Off this island, this was an escape plan (this was an escape plan)
Carefully timed it, so let me go
And dive into the waves below

Who tends the orchards? Who fixes up the gables?
Emotional torture from the head of your high table
Who fetches the water from the rocky mountain spring?
And walk back down again to feel your words
And their sharp sting
And I'm getting fucking tired

The capillaries in my eyes are bursting
If our love died, would that be the worst thing?
For somebody I thought was my saviour
You sure make me do a whole lot of labour

The calloused skin on my hands is cracking
If our love ends, would that be a bad thing?
And the silence haunts our bed chamber
You make me do too much labour
You make me do too much labour

Apologies from my tongue, and never yours
Busy lapping from flowing cup and stabbing with your fork
I know you're a smart man (I know you're a smart man)
And weaponise
The false incompetence, it's dominance under a guise

If we had a daughter, I'd watch and could not save her
The emotional torture from the head of your high table
She'd do what you taught her
She'd meet the same cruel fate
So now I've gotta run, so I can undo this mistake
At least I've gotta try

The capillaries in my eyes are bursting
If our love died, would that be the worst thing?
For somebody I thought was my saviour
You sure make me do a whole lot of labour

The calloused skin on my hands is cracking
If our love ends, would that be a bad thing?
And the silence haunts our bed chamber
You make me do too much labour

All day, every day, therapist, mother, maid
Nymph, then a virgin, nurse, then a servant
Just an appendage, live to attend him
So that he never lifts a finger
24/7 baby machine
So he can live out his picket-fence dreams
It's not an act of love if you make her
You make me do too much labour

All day, every day, therapist, mother, maid
Nymph, then virgin, nurse, then a servant
Just an appendage, live to attend him
So that he never lifts a finger
24/7 baby machine
So he can live out his picket-fence dreams
It's not an act of love if you make her
You make me do too much labour

The capillaries in my eyes (all day, every day)
Are bursting (therapist, mother, maid)
If our love died (nymph, then virgin)
Would that be the worst thing? (Nurse, then a servant)
For somebody (just an appendage)
I thought was my saviour (live to attend him)
You sure make me do (so that)
A whole lot of labour (he never lifts a finger)

The calloused skin on my hands (24/7)
Is cracking (baby machine)
If our love ends (so he can live out)
Would that be a bad thing? (His picket-fence dreams)
And the silence (it's not an act of love)
Haunts our bed chamber (if you make her)
You make me do too much labour

Analysis and criticisms of Labour

At face value, it might be relatable if this a song about women of the past (i.e. a mother, grandmother, ancestor etc) or someone who grew up in restrictive religious environment, thus has to fulfil the role of the "tradwife".

However, in the context of the 21st century and many democracies around the world, this surely can't be the sentiments that most or all women living in said first-world countries or most democratic developing countries should ascribe to. "You make me do too much labour", it sounds like what many feminists say about men, when the tables are turned for them to provide comfort/support to men. It isn't "labour" to show support and comfort, its called having basic empathy and being a decent human being.

She brings up that the relationship is emotionally taxing, complains about pregnancy/childbirth, about being a mother, nurse, therapist and uses the terms "virgin" and "nymph", which is the typical madonna-whore talking point to further whine about being unhappy in a relationship.

Sure, a subset of men will slut shame and fetishise virgins, and there are men who are obsessed about traditional masculine roles, surely they are not representative of all men. Also, if the partner had all these traits, and these were not compatible with her values, why marry and have a child?

Also, what is oppressive about being a mother? Parenting is tough regardless of gender, however it surely isn't a sign of oppression. Nor is marriage, if you are not forced to marry someone against your will. A relationship is as good as what you put into it. If she is stuck in a loveless relationship, then divorce, or get separated. If it's that hard then have an open marriage/relationship. If she doesn't want to have children, then don't have them*.* This isn't complex.

I went through the lyrics of this song and she is vague about the details in regards to the relationship being physically or emotionally abusive / taxing or whether they both experienced communication breakdown. Paris never makes it clear. If it is being the man's therapist/nurse etc, what is the context and why does she feel so? She never provides examples nor context. There are much better songs depicting emotional /physical abuse such as Love the Way You Lie by Eminem ft Rihanna, Gravity by Sara Bareilles, "Ex-Factor" by Laryn Hill.

Songs about communication breakdown or entering a relationship with the wrong expectations, there's Ordinary People by John Legend, Hero by Regina Spektor or an underrated song, Volcano by Damien Rice. This isn't anything new. What a lot of these songs have in common is the fact that they provide context, some are duets and you know what the other side has to say about the main artists' turmoils. In virtually all her songs, it is only from her perspective.

This line from the song pissed me off "If we had a daughter, I'd watch and could not save her" . It's one thing to be an irresponsible adult, another entirely to not care for an innocent child, parents are meant to be selfless. So Paris is going to ensure that her child will be exposed to secondary trauma and let her daughter learn bad behaviour from her abuser? (If this was the case). It is well researched that exposing children to domestic violence or other forms of abuse has a lasting impact into adulthood and children learn behaviours that their parents exhibit.

It also showed me how feminists are so caught up in their victimhood mindset that if Paris wanted to she could have written a write a hook about doing everything it takes to leave the toxic relationship, because she has to protect her daughter or let her live a decent life. But no victimhood mentality and damselling is what sells.

The music video contains tropes consisting of Handmaid's Tale fear mongering, medieval or 50's tropes depicting women as these helpless damsels who aren't capable of agency and free-will to save themselves or others like their own children.

If feminism was meant to be empowering, why is it that many recent (and mainstream) recording artists, never bother to sing about women's capabilities? Its either promoting victimhood, hating men or seeking revenge. How is this helpful or lyrics to sing and dance to? How are these artists good role models to girls and women? Why with recent music is it always about putting down another gender in order to elevate themselves?

Double standards

Many male recording artists faced scrutiny for writing misogynistic lyrics, one artist that comes to my mind is Eminem. In this current climate, where is the pushback against this crap? Everyone praises this bigoted artist and Paris Paloma is one of many. If the tables were turned, a man would 100 percent be cancelled for producing sexist lyrics about women. Even within the Hip Hop/Rap Industry male recording artists face scrutiny for producing their music. However nothing is said if the roles are reversed. Misandry is used as a means for female artists to become famous, get acclaim and to establish fanbases of people who hate men who make up half the population of the world.

Lastly there are far better (and talented) independent artists out there who are far better than this Temu version of Kate Bush.

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u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago
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What's going on with Brigitte Macron?

A lot of people talk of “male power”; pointing to a long list of male CEOs, politicians, Prime Ministers, Presidents and world leaders.

And there is certainly some utility in doing so.

But what is to be said about ‘Male Power’, when arguably the most powerful man on the continent of Europe can be openly assaulted by his wife, and nobody seems to mind?

Worse –

When instead of anger, the world responds with mockery and memes, turning such a man into the butt of jokes, rather than the recipient of concern.

What about when that same man is so closely controlled and monitored by his wife, that allegedly, she personally has to approve every single woman who works with him, and if any of these women are deemed to be a threat, their job application is thrown in the bin?

What if this same man met his wife, and entered into a ‘relationship’ with her, when he was just 15 and she was forty (!?)

When she was his drama teacher, and a married mother of three children… and he was an impressionable teenage boy?

What is to be said then?

So what happens when this man, one of the most powerful in the world, who has the launch codes to an arsenal of nuclear weapons, can be seemingly abused by this wife, on live TV, and the world looks the other way?

Is that the “Male power” I hear so much about?

And if such a man is so easily disarmed of a power, then what does that say about the normal men who live all around us?

So, is it time we talked about French President Emmanuel Macron, and his infamous wife, Brigitte, who hides such a controversial and worrying past?

What do you think?

u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago

Misandry in Paris Paloma's music

After constantly hearing the song Labour by Paris Paloma from various YT shorts / TikTok reels I decided to look into this musician in more detail.

Paris Paloma has a history of making problematic statements about boys/men in interviews and in her songs. Here the focus will be on Labour.

Interviews with the media

Paris Paloma identifies as a feminist (unsurprising like most in the music industry), however she is a special type of feminist you see, because she has read Bell Hooks, she is not like all the other feminists and she is fighting the patriarchy by saving men from themselves /s. By the way, that doesn't make her any less misandrist than the vast majority of feminists. In fact this type of mentality is no different to that of Evangelical Christians and other religious zealots. Like most terminally online feminists, she has read Hooks' The Will To Change - of course she has.

She stated in an interview with People that "I reference her specifically so much because she speaks with such love about men whilst being the harshest critic of patriarchy and toxic masculinity. She is all about practically what a future looks like where all the genders are reconciled and patriarchy is undone in that way,". Note that this was in reference to her starting to write love songs. Seriously, is loving men or writing songs about loving men now treated as a crime?

In this other interview with The Independent she complains about toxic masculinity, tradwives on social media and online misogyny, typical celeb PR stuff you know. She has referenced Kate Bush's song, Army Dreamers, a song about men who were duped by government propaganda to fight in wars, you know an ongoing issue throughout time and a topic that is brought up often on this subreddit.

Here, she trivialises issues such as mandatory conscription and makes it about "toxic masculinity". Her direct quote: "It's one of my favourite songs on the album because toxic masculinity is a massive tragedy, and I wanted to write something that reflected that," she said. "No one wins – young boys are thrown to the wolves, they enlist as soldiers and die for no reason." yeah the decisions made by unscrupulous politicians, that is just toxic masculinity or men dying as a result. That's all what it is. My God this woman is so insufferable and pretentious.

In her interview about the song Good Boy it's the typical run of the mill commentary about men falling for Andrew Tate, upholding traditional masculine roles, that feminists like her still uphold with their bigotry. Paris also whines further about trying to save them from becoming misogynists and that they need feminism. She is arrogant and dismissive of men's issues that in the lyrics of this song, she compares boys/men to Pavlovian dogs and how apparently gullible they are to Red Pill/Trad Ideology, as if that encapsulates all of what boys/men go through on the daily. She also disingenuously paints the subset of elite and/or predatory men to the entire demographic of boys/men, which is typical of feminists like her.

Lyrics

Labour

One, two, three

Why are you hanging on so tight
To the rope that I'm hanging from?
Off this island, this was an escape plan (this was an escape plan)
Carefully timed it, so let me go
And dive into the waves below

Who tends the orchards? Who fixes up the gables?
Emotional torture from the head of your high table
Who fetches the water from the rocky mountain spring?
And walk back down again to feel your words
And their sharp sting
And I'm getting fucking tired

The capillaries in my eyes are bursting
If our love died, would that be the worst thing?
For somebody I thought was my saviour
You sure make me do a whole lot of labour

The calloused skin on my hands is cracking
If our love ends, would that be a bad thing?
And the silence haunts our bed chamber
You make me do too much labour
You make me do too much labour

Apologies from my tongue, and never yours
Busy lapping from flowing cup and stabbing with your fork
I know you're a smart man (I know you're a smart man)
And weaponise
The false incompetence, it's dominance under a guise

If we had a daughter, I'd watch and could not save her
The emotional torture from the head of your high table
She'd do what you taught her
She'd meet the same cruel fate
So now I've gotta run, so I can undo this mistake
At least I've gotta try

The capillaries in my eyes are bursting
If our love died, would that be the worst thing?
For somebody I thought was my saviour
You sure make me do a whole lot of labour

The calloused skin on my hands is cracking
If our love ends, would that be a bad thing?
And the silence haunts our bed chamber
You make me do too much labour

All day, every day, therapist, mother, maid
Nymph, then a virgin, nurse, then a servant
Just an appendage, live to attend him
So that he never lifts a finger
24/7 baby machine
So he can live out his picket-fence dreams
It's not an act of love if you make her
You make me do too much labour

All day, every day, therapist, mother, maid
Nymph, then virgin, nurse, then a servant
Just an appendage, live to attend him
So that he never lifts a finger
24/7 baby machine
So he can live out his picket-fence dreams
It's not an act of love if you make her
You make me do too much labour

The capillaries in my eyes (all day, every day)
Are bursting (therapist, mother, maid)
If our love died (nymph, then virgin)
Would that be the worst thing? (Nurse, then a servant)
For somebody (just an appendage)
I thought was my saviour (live to attend him)
You sure make me do (so that)
A whole lot of labour (he never lifts a finger)

The calloused skin on my hands (24/7)
Is cracking (baby machine)
If our love ends (so he can live out)
Would that be a bad thing? (His picket-fence dreams)
And the silence (it's not an act of love)
Haunts our bed chamber (if you make her)
You make me do too much labour

Analysis and criticisms of Labour

At face value, it might be relatable if this a song about women of the past (i.e. a mother, grandmother, ancestor etc) or someone who grew up in restrictive religious environment, thus has to fulfil the role of the "tradwife".

However, in the context of the 21st century and many democracies around the world, this surely can't be the sentiments that most or all women living in said first-world countries or most democratic developing countries should ascribe to. "You make me do too much labour", it sounds like what many feminists say about men, when the tables are turned for them to provide comfort/support to men. It isn't "labour" to show support and comfort, its called having basic empathy and being a decent human being.

She brings up that the relationship is emotionally taxing, complains about pregnancy/childbirth, about being a mother, nurse, therapist and uses the terms "virgin" and "nymph", which is the typical madonna-whore talking point to further whine about being unhappy in a relationship.

Sure, a subset of men will slut shame and fetishise virgins, and there are men who are obsessed about traditional masculine roles, surely they are not representative of all men. Also, if the partner had all these traits, and these were not compatible with her values, why marry and have a child?

Also, what is oppressive about being a mother? Parenting is tough regardless of gender, however it surely isn't a sign of oppression. Nor is marriage, if you are not forced to marry someone against your will. A relationship is as good as what you put into it. If she is stuck in a loveless relationship, then divorce, or get separated. If it's that hard then have an open marriage/relationship. If she doesn't want to have children, then don't have them. This isn't complex.

I went through the lyrics of this song and she is vague about the details in regards to the relationship being physically or emotionally abusive / taxing or whether they both experienced communication breakdown. Paris never makes it clear. If it is being the man's therapist/nurse etc, what is the context and why does she feel so? She never provides examples nor context. There are much better songs depicting emotional /physical abuse such as Love the Way You Lie by Eminem ft Rihanna, Gravity by Sara Bareilles, "Ex-Factor" by Laryn Hill.

Songs about communication breakdown or entering a relationship with the wrong expectations, there's Ordinary People by John Legend, Hero by Regina Spektor or an underrated song, Volcano by Damien Rice. This isn't anything new. What a lot of these songs have in common is the fact that they provide context, some are duets and you know what the other side has to say about the main artists' turmoils. In virtually all her songs, it is only from her perspective.

This line from the song pissed me off "If we had a daughter, I'd watch and could not save her" . It's one thing to be an irresponsible adult, another entirely to not care for an innocent child, parents are meant to be selfless. So Paris is going to ensure that her child will be exposed to secondary trauma and let her daughter learn bad behaviour from her abuser? (If this was the case). It is well researched that exposing children to domestic violence or other forms of abuse has a lasting impact into adulthood and children learn behaviours that their parents exhibit.

It also showed me how feminists are so caught up in their victimhood mindset that if Paris wanted to she could have written a write a hook about doing everything it takes to leave the toxic relationship, because she has to protect her daughter or let her live a decent life. But no victimhood mentality and damselling is what sells.

The music video contains tropes consisting of Handmaid's Tale fear mongering, medieval or 50's tropes depicting women as these helpless damsels who aren't capable of agency and free-will to save themselves or others like their own children.

If feminism was meant to be empowering, why is it that many recent (and mainstream) recording artists, never bother to sing about women's capabilities? Its either promoting victimhood, hating men or seeking revenge. How is this helpful or lyrics to sing and dance to? How are these artists good role models to girls and women? Why with recent music is it always about putting down another gender in order to elevate themselves?

Double standards

Many male recording artists faced scrutiny for writing misogynistic lyrics, one artist that comes to my mind is Eminem. In this current climate, where is the pushback against this crap? Everyone praises this bigoted artist and Paris Paloma is one of many. If the tables were turned, a man would 100 percent be cancelled for producing sexist lyrics about women. Even within the Hip Hop/Rap Industry male recording artists face scrutiny for producing their music. However nothing is said if the roles are reversed. Misandry is used as a means for female artists to become famous, get acclaim and to establish fanbases of people who hate men who make up half the population of the world.

Lastly there are far better (and talented) independent artists out there who are far better than this Temu version of Kate Bush.

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u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago
▲ 380 r/TheTinMen+1 crossposts

New Study: Why do teachers give lower marks to boys?

It’s results day in the UK.

And to those who got what they wanted, congratulations, and for those who did not (such as myself when I was your age), I know it feels like the end of the world right now, but I promise you, it isn’t.

The thing that I find so interesting about this fateful day, is that the destiny of students has already been decided.

Students have been given their university offers already.

Students have applied, been accepted, and even made their final decisions, several months before this day arrives.

But... how?

Well, through what’s called ‘predicted grades’.

Predicted grades are decided by teacher assessments, not exams, and they are given to students several months before the final results day.

Students then use these predicted grades to decide which universities to apply to, and then universities use them to decide which students to accept; and the actual final exam results are supposed to confirm these grades, and... well... the rest is history.

This all sounds well and good, I suppose.

Except… what if teachers were giving different grades, to students of equal intelligence?

Or to be specific: what if boys were getting lower predicted grades in comparison to girls who achieved the exact same final results?

And if such a thing were happening –

Could it help explain why 45,000 fewer boys go into higher education than girls every year in the UK?

Well, an enormous new study, captured over three years, which analysed the results of 350,000 (!!) A-level students, has suggested yes, this is happening, and not just once, but consistently across all subjects.

Yes.

The study finds girls are more likely to be overpredicted, and less likely to be underpredicted, than boys, and this could be influencing the education, careers, and entire lives of countless millions of students.

Let’s take a look….

~

Full study https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775726000567

Cambridge Analysis https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/gender-gap-in-predicted-grades-raises-questions-over-their-use-in-university-admissions

u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago

The Double Standards in Genital Mutilation

Abstract

"This article extends a decade of phenomenological research on female genital mutilation (FGM) in Iran (Ahmady et al., 2015) to critically examine the parallel practice of male genital mutilation (MGM). The initial study, which documented the perpetuation of FGM outside its commonly assumed geographical borders, revealed the need for a comparative analysis of MGM, a practice often defended by similar cultural and religious arguments.

This paper confronts the profound double standard in which FGM is internationally condemned as a human rights violation, while MGM persists with broad societal and even medical endorsement. Presenting a comparative ethical and human rights analysis, this paper deconstructs the complex matrix of justifications rooted in tradition, patriarchal authority, and religious mandates that sustain non-therapeutic male circumcision.

The analysis revealed that MGM and FGM share striking parallels, functioning as mechanisms of social control and gender identity construction. It is argued that MGM constitutes a significant violation of a child’s right to bodily integrity and is as much an attack on masculinity as FGM is on femininity.

By challenging the segregated ethical discourses surrounding genital cutting, this article calls for a consistent, gender-neutral application of human rights principles, concluding that the protection of all children requires unequivocal rejection of medically unnecessary genital alterations" (Ahmady, 2025).

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u/Specific_Detective41 — 2 months ago