u/Sundata_V2

The only actual viable counter to Dabura's speed is infinity since Gojo doesn't need to react. The rest are pure agenda and pipe dreams.

Even if Dabura's sub-light speed kick is 1% of the speed of light, that's still over mach 8,000. At a low-ball, he's already moving thousands of times faster than curse Naoya, who’s already top 3 speed in the OG series.

Also, the idea that regular dismantles from Yuji would kill Dabura is insane work.

We know that his main ability is to give mass to light by combining it with his killing intent. So what on earth could his reversal possibly be capable of?

I just thought about how completely and utterly confused Yuta's parents must have been in jjk, since he's pretty much the only one from a normal family.

- Their son's childhood friend brutally dies in front of him, and ever since then, other people around him get injured and maimed in unexplainable ways

- He then gets picked up by some religious school (with a massive campus despite having like 10 students) by some weird white-haired guy

- After a few months there, he then goes to Kenya with some random guy for a whole year

- And then, after all the Sukuna nonsense is over, he inherits a bunch of money from some rich aristocrats, marries some girl with burns all over her body, and has a massive scar on his forehead all of a sudden

People here like to act like Hakari has bad durability, just cause he takes a lot of damage in his fights, but the manga says otherwise.

We're told that Kashimo's regular attacks shock his opponents irregardless if they block them or use cursed energy to reinforce themselves. But JP Hakari can just straight up ignore it due to his level of reinforcement.

"B-but Uraume and Kashimo were tearing him apart."

Have you ever used your thinking cap and thought that maybe Gege made the guy with the best rct fight two super lethal opponents for a reason? It's not that Hakari’s durability is trash. His opponents are just that deadly.

In a post I made yesterday, there were a concerning number of people who actually believe a special grade sorcerer would take 0 damage from a Grade 1 sorcerer's attacks.

Except grade 1s have been shown to damage special grade level characters on several occasions:

- Naoya was able to draw blood from Maki

- Sukuna and Kenny had to dodge Mei Mei's bird strike

- Yuji was able to block Yuta's sword strikes and break his sword

- G-War staff pierced Hakari

- Todo and Kusakabe could damage Shinjuku Sukuna

- Choso damaged Kenny with his punches

- Panda and Inumaki could damage Geto

-etc.

For the 50th time, this is JJK, not Dragon Ball z. The gap between high Grade 1 and special grade physical stats is nowhere near as big as people make it out to be.

Man, some of you guys just get on here and lie straight through your teeth 🤣🤣🤣.

Mahito takes multiple punches from Yuji in the manga(the "thunk" sound effect in the top left), and he himself says his attacks don't reach him. His entire body is stated to be more durable than Choso's body armor, which let him no-sell a punch from Yuji.

Not even Shinjuku Sukuna was eating punches and attacks from the Grade 1s like Mahito did.

I swear, I've seen the exact same posts made over and over again by Karma farming bums. Hell, I've even seen my own stuff posted here and on other subs.

I know this much easier said than done, but if the mods could find some way to ban posts with the exact same titles and contents, that would be great.

We saw what a regular punch from Gojo could do to Uraume, and we know that his blue-enhanced punches caused Hakari and Yuta to throw up.

Yet Miguel was able to take dozens of punches from a somewhat serious Gojo without any meaningful damage.

Before you hit me with the "Gojo was holding back" argument, what reason would he have? He said himself that he was pissed and in a hurry to Miguel.

The big problem I have when people use a character's performance against Sukuna to scale them is that there are just too many factors at play.

Sukuna was fucking around for most of Shinjuku and it's explicitly stated by Uraume that he was holding back. That's why we see him fluctuating between being able to blitz Choso and Maki to getting tagged by Ino and Kusakabe of all people.

The only times he was actually pushed to his limits were against awakened Yuji and Angel's Jacob's ladder.

Also, the fact that his output kept rising and lowering depending on his excitement and Yuji's soul damage weaking him, we have no way of telling just how hard he was even trying. Narratively, Maki gave him more trouble than Yuta, Kashimo, and Higuruma.

It's actually insane that on the shounen subreddit, people hate 99% of shounen Mangas.

Every time they try to fight Kenjaku, it's never a 1v1. They always have to jump him with several characters, techniques, and a well-thought out plan just to stand a chance.

So it's really not ridiculous to say there isn't a character besides Gojo or Sukuna who can beat him one on one.

In terms of durability, he's arguably top 3 in the verse, excluding Modulo, just for this dismantle feat.

His other stats, though, scale nowhere near as high. His strength isn't quite on the level of a Yuji or Yuki. His speed isn't on the level of Toji/Maki, and his AP isn't at the level of Kenjaku or Yorozu.

With the highest output, you'd think he'd be stronger overall.

Actually insane to claim Yuji has 0 feats, then put the guy with 0 feats in the same tier as him...

The absolute worst take I've ever heard from this sub is that Kashimo doesn't have heavy hitter level stats.

Brother, Kashimo literally went extreme-diff with one of the heavy-hitters without even using his cursed technique, only basic reinforcement and cursed energy trait.

Keep in mind that JP Hakari had the second best stats out of the heavy hitters before Yuji's awakening, and Kashimo is capable of reacting to his attacks and landing hits on him.

"B-but he died to dismantles, even Grade 1s could survive those."

Those Grade 1s were barely surviving dismantles from a Sukuna who wasn't even trying to kill them, even while using DA. When he actually tried, we see he shreds through Higuruma with ease. Even Yuji said that Sukuna's dismantles would have killed him without RCT and DA.

Goatbura is top 1 in the verse