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1 the first scenario would be the council of the west supported by boons and characteristics But not direct intervention, from the great old one but indirect support either equipment or knowledge or blessings

We are equating cosmology otherwise lord of the mystery stamps or vice versa or whatever

1 the demon of knowledge has type two information manipulation as his main thing

As all information is discovered, not made and everything is already existed

2 he also embodies civilization and technology he can make starships and other stuff

3 he can manipulate essence and information and imbued power onto it

Meaning in this case he will be able to control information particles and the nature of the world

Like Principles

• Refers to inherent patterns or natural laws—the underlying order of reality that exists independently of authority. It is closer to universal principles or the fundamental workings of the world.

In other contexts this term can also denote simpler patterns or regularity, not a strict law, but rather an observable consistency or recurring behavior over time such as everyday routines or behavioral patterns

In this scenario the council of the west would be fighting tempest by itself tempest wouldn't be allowed to have allies like other nations or other demon lord

And the timeline is the anime currently

The second scenario

Is same as the first, but only difference is, allies are now allowed

The final scenario is the great old one now is able to directly intervene in this 3 scenario

Teacher Cuttlefish, I'm back again. Please answer.

① What are the specific application details and principles of the Law of Similarity in the Lord of Mysteries world? (If Teacher Cuttlefish could give a separate explanation for this, that would be great, because the second book involves it a lot, but it feels quite vaguely defined.)

② Can there exist minor pathways that do not meet all the requirements of 9-0?

A: You can look up The Golden Bough.

(Reborn/N: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Golden\_Bough)

From what i've gathered, it seems quite broad and interesting

: Teacher Cuttlefish, I have a few questions I hope you can answer. 1: How many Pillar-level symbolisms do the Lord of the Mysteries and God Almighty have? Since the Mother Goddess of Depravity has two, how many do the other two Pillars have? 2: What pathway does the Constantine family control? Which empire did they support in the Fourth Epoch? 3: Is the Evil Dragon considered the fully activated City of Calamity? Does: opposing the Evil Dragon equal opposing the fully activated City of Calamity? A: Pillar symbolisms are generally one: Reality, Spirit World, Astral World. Q2: So only the Mother Goddess of Depravity has two Pillar symbolisms (Chaos Primogenitor and Reality Sovereign)? The Mother Goddess is truly strong. A2: After all, the Chaos Primogenitor, once born, doesn't belong to Her anymore; it's more like borrowing. Q3: Didn't you previously say the Fourth Pillar's "Space-Time in one" and "Origin of All Things" are Pillar symbolisms? So the Fourth Pillar also has dual Pillar symbolisms, right? A3: "Spacetime Unifier" and "End of All Things" are different aspects of the End Symbolism. (TL/N: yes, origin as question and End as answer)

Q: Hello, Teacher Cuttlefish ε٩(๑> ₃ <)۶з. Besides removing the barrier and forcibly suppressing the Brood Hive's will, can the Chaos Primogenitor, with its limited use, achieve other things only the Original Creator could do, like splitting Sefirah, or strengthening the Original Creator’s consciousness within an Old One, or even directly cause an Old One to die truly? A: It can achieve things in terms of event type, but not with that great intensity.

Can the Sun's "Notarization" affect supernatural abilities (like speech-type abilities, Miracle Invoker's wishes) authorities (like "Miracle" "Change"), and traits (like the Pale Emperor's "Sovereign of Spirit")? A: Yes.

Teacher Cuttlefish, you mentioned in a previous session that the Knowledge Moor is the Original Creator's essence of knowledge. But compared to the Original Creator's Yin-Yang of Calamity and the Original Creator’s Fate of the Key of Light, this "essence of knowledge" seems slightly insubstantial. May I ask what the concrete manifestations of the essence of knowledge are? A: Knowledge is information. Theories like information grand unification also exist.

Teacher Octopus, may I ask a question about theft? Can stealing 'Authority' be understood as 'stealing everything under a certain domain' from the target? For example, if a Worm of Time steals the 'Authority of Change,' would it steal all abilities related to change, or just the single ability 'Grafting'? A: The entire authority.

Cuttlefish, Cuttlefish, may I ask, can the Door pathway achieve parallel world travel? "Key to all Mysterious Worlds", does that indicate it can enter other planes? A: Yes.

In the official account's previous post about the "High-Dimensional Overseer," it mentioned 【Through gazing and illusion,, making real objects disappear, making illusions real】. What's the difference between that and The Fool's 【Turning Falsehood into Truth】? A: The principle/mechanism of realizing it is different.

Hello, Teacher Cuttlefish. I want to confirm something: Since the Chaos Primogenitor still exists, the Mother Goddess remains a Pillar even after the Brood Hive separates from Her. Does this mean the special symbolism of the Chaos Primogenitor should also be considered a Pillar-level symbolism or equivalent to Pillar symbolism? A: Yes

Teacher Cuttlefish, who is the deity that walked out from the Abraham family's "Grade 0" sealed artifact, the "Scroll of God"? A: A power projection of "high-dimensional fantasy becoming reality."

Respected Cuttlefish, thank you for creating this novel and congratulations on completing the setting. I have a very important question I've always wanted to know. May I ask you? Regarding "Authority," I feel there is still some ambiguity. Specifically: Are the various abilities we see from authority holders the authority itself, or are they "abilities" that are supported and elevated to the level of "authority and concept" by the authority (permission)? To simplify the question, take the "Error" pathway as an example (it illustrates the point better than "White Tower" because it's not just "simulation," but "theft"). Before Sequence 1, "Error" cannot steal authorities. So, before that, if they face an authority holder, can they only steal the "abilities" or the "external manifestations," without the "authority/permission" that operates at a deeper level? Thus, authority is merely "permission, concept, and domain," while the ability remains just an "ability"? It's like stealing "Wish" without the "Miracle Authority," or stealing "Entropy" without the "Disorder Authority," and so on. A: Some are various abilities supported and elevated to the corresponding level by the authority; some are direct uses of the authority, akin to changing the underlying code. Q2: Good afternoon, Respected Master Cuttlefish! I have a setting question about "Authority" I'd like to ask. After revisiting the original novel and some Q&As on the public WeChat account, I'd like to confirm if the following understanding is correct: "Authority" seems to be composed of two parts: one part is "Beyonder ability," and the other part is the "permission" within that domain that grants this ability a more underlying and higher status. However, this "ability" derived from authority cannot be "simulated" or "stolen" because it is inherently embedded within that authority. At most, other pathways can only create seemingly identical "external manifestations" by understanding mystical and physical laws, but the "essence" of the two is completely different. The reference for this conclusion is that Franca once mentioned a certain "Catastrophe ability" could be "elevated to the level of authority" or "involve authority and concepts," implying this duality. Furthermore, combined with your replies to other book friends a few days ago and some scenes in the book, I have also confirmed this point. After all, it is not that extraordinary abilities exist first and then sublimate into authorities. The true underlying logic is: The "Original Creator" sits at the absolute apex; all things derive downwards from the top — "Symbols" derive downwards into "Authorities," and "Authorities" manifest downwards as "Beyonder abilities." Is this interpretation correct? A2: Yes.

Can a Sequence 1 "Seer" use "Grafting" to set themselves or a marionette as the "starting point," and an enemy or designated target as the "end point," thereby redirecting an attack originally aimed at them along this grafted connection to ultimately hit that end target? Can a Sequence 2 "Seer," through the "Shapeshifting" ability, with appropriate restraints and accumulated wishes, transform into the mythical creature form of another pathway and use its corresponding abilities? Or is the "Shapeshifting" ability itself sufficient to achieve this? Can "conditional wishes" be set that only manifest when specific behaviors or conditions are met? For example, connecting the lives of insignificant beings (like ants) to a higher-level existence, so that when these ants are killed, their deaths trigger harm to a powerful target, akin to a kind of "oath." Although this example seems extreme, the core of the question is whether one can actively sacrifice something through a wish to obtain equivalent or even higher-level gains, similar to a principle of "equivalent exchange"? A: 2. Yes, wishes bring miracles.

Respected Teacher Love Diving Cuttlefish: I still have some questions about the potential application of "Wishes" in the Fool pathway, especially when combined with other abilities. I hope you can answer whether the following concepts are feasible: Can a Sequence 2 "Fool" use the "Shapeshifting" ability, with appropriate constraints and accumulation of wishes, to shapeshift into mythical creatures of other pathways and use their corresponding abilities? Or is the "Shapeshifting" ability alone sufficient to achieve this? At the Sequence 0 level, can one, through wishing under appropriate constraints and accumulation, temporarily obtain abilities or authorities from other Sequence 0 pathways (e.g., Error or Door)? Furthermore, could such wishes also temporarily obtain abilities from non-adjacent pathways? Going further, could a Sequence 1 or Sequence 0 "Fool" approach or even match other pathways' specific domains (e.g., Purification) at the same sequence level through wishes? Can a Sequence 0 Fool who can use surface-level symbolisms directly mobilize or strengthen the symbolic meaning inherent in "Wish" itself — for example, "Inconceivable" and "Bizarre" — without needing to fully utilize authorities, thereby distorting, weakening, or interfering with other authorities? At the Sequence 1 or Sequence 0 level, can one intentionally make an extreme wish, then transfer or graft its cost onto a marionette (or have the marionette formally make the wish), or even graft it onto an enemy, thereby avoiding bearing the distortion backlash of the wish oneself?

A: 1. Needs cooperation with Miracle Wishing.

: Good afternoon, dear Cuttlefish! I have a question about authorities, imitation, and theft. Last week, you confirmed that authority includes two aspects: "ability" and "permission." You mentioned some authorities are purely "permission," while some have both. Many fans in my circle have asked me to ask you: Can the "ability" aspect of an authority be imitated or stolen (for theft, at least before Sequence 1)? And does imitating the external manifestation of an authority not represent directly imitating the "ability" itself without "permission," but merely imitating its operational mechanism and visual effects? Is this understanding correct? For example, when Sasrir used the power of the "Chaos Sea" to imitate "Reboot," the river that appeared was never described as "silver" or "mercury colored," which is very rare in descriptions of the River of Fate. This seems to be a hint that "He" did not directly simulate the "Reboot" ability itself, but only imitated the ability's impact on the world and its external manifestation when activated. A: The abilities within an authority can be imitated, but they are inferior to the permission itself, meaning they will be suppressed by the permission.

: Teacher Cuttlefish, it's ending soon. It's been a long time since you've answered my question. QAQ In a previous answer, you said the River of Eternal Darkness has the symbolism of light. In the original text, the Evernight Goddess's image and abilities have stars appearing. Does this mean the symbolism of light manifests as stars within Sequence 0 Darkness? Between the Tyrant's "Tyrant" authority and the Sun's "Holy" authority, which one is closer to the symbolism of God Almighty as the Father of All Things? May I ask about Lilith's true name and nationality during her time as a survivor of the Old Era? A: 1. Where time and space become one is Darkness. And time is similar to the light cone. (TL/N: check trivia) Q2: Teacher Cuttlefish, you said before that within the light cone is fate. Now you mention time is similar to the light cone. So, does the Space-Time in One also approximate to the Fate in One, symbolizing that fate returns to End? A2: The extension of fate is the extension in space-time.

: Teacher Cuttlefish, can a complete Mirrored Original Creator completely destroy Sefirah?

A: Cannot, but it can tear apart and reorganize. Because Sefirah are symbolisms of certain parts of the universe, destroying a Sefirah means the universe gradually collapses, heading toward its end. Moreover, the mirror world depends on real-world mirror objects. Q2: Teacher Cuttlefish, didn't you say last time that a complete Mirrored Original Creator cannot truly destroy the world or create a new world?

: Mr. Cuttlefish, what can the Original Creator do that the Mirrored Original Creator cannot? CF: Truly destroy the entire world and create a new one. Q2: Can the born Chaos Primogenitor accomplish this? CF: Yes, as the birth of a new Original Creator. -Wheel of Fortune Abilities #8

: Then, Teacher Cuttlefish, in his complete form, can the Mirrored Original Creator break the rule that the spirits of the Great Old Ones are indestructible? Can he completely destroy a Great Old One? Q4: If a downgraded version of Original Creator like the Mirrored Original Creator is born, could it resolve the problem of Lumian having the Termination symbolism?

A2: Wasn't my answer that destroying a Sefirah equals destroying the world? A3: Yes, so God Almighty and the Celestial Worthy both didn't want the Mirrored Original Creator to be born. A4: It could, but if it is born, Lumian would be gone.

Can a Diviner use the "Open Door" ability on their own body to make specific parts ethereal? For example, using this ability on the chest to avoid a bullet? (This might also help this sequence shake off its "memetic" status.) Thank you again for everything. Have a great day. A: 3. It depends on the level of the "Open Door" ability. If it's at the Apprentice level, that's essentially opening your own chest, which is tantamount to committing suicide before the enemy kills you.

Is it reasonable to temporarily define "King of Kings of Angels" as "angels capable of mobilizing the power of a Sefirah"? A: 1. The Sefirah is the most important thing. So, if you can mobilize it, you are a King of Kings.

1 you could graze up to 7 souls

Okay if we graze seven shepherds

That is 49 souls we could graze, using the ability of shepherding

Then if we take the soul of a depraver taking the ability of deprivation we can deprive the shepherds shepherding if we do this for each of this seven souls of the shepherds, there would be 7 more shepherds seven more grazing of souls now it's around ninety or a hundred souls You could graze as a shepherd theoretically just imagine the absurdity truly the most overpowered pathway at seq 5

1 Graze 7 shepard's choose the grazing ability 2 using the souls grazing ability graze Depriver and use deprivation 3 use it on shepherds taking the Grazing ability 4 start grazing like 10 people from different pathways, lower sequence 5 use grazing on the Marionettist So you could make marionette of shepherds you could technically keep going but like at that point you were just that omnipotent, you would never lose against any one below demi god

Lotm hax layers scaling

Okay if we take the interpretation of

Seq 3 to 2 is 1

The total should be

4 but 5 if we include the intermediaries or low level state of a great old one

For example, the one we saw in the fool's gambet is

5 layers if we take the progression from seq 3 to pillar level

More could be made if I wanted to start at seq 4 to 3

Is 1 layer so in that it should be 5 or 6

More could be argued bud.I don't really need to sense that's around the same number as what you've described for

Okay let me explain the layering

I was using for deceit

1 the ability of deceit is gained way back but let's start at seq 4

Amon avatar use the deceit on a seq 4 of the same pathway

But this person was half mad and we're getting chased and attacked by klein who was seq 4 most likely using a mental attack on top of his own

Causing him to be in a bad state of mind

Amon state it would have been much more difficult to deceive him if he was in the right state of mind not half mad and wasn't so terrified of him

Otherwise it was much more difficult even klein was affected by it

Meaning they should at least prove seq 4 to 3 is 1 layer

Or seq 3 to 2 is 1 layer this format could go all the way up to pillar level

Do to higher sequences being able to easily deceive lower ones

Bypassing resistance

Oh yeah simpler

Explanation of the thing I have up

1 seq 4 deceit on another seq 4 of the same pathway

Seq 4 of that same pathway is resistant to deceit so by the logic of seq 3 being able to deceive them they have one layer

Adding the intermediary stages like kings of angels or half old ones

Could I get it up to 11 or more and even more, if we start at a lower sequence than demagod

Some other arguments could be made for more layers although those are less about characters and more about abstractions and the way it functions in verse and some other stuff.As well

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1 the concepts did not exist until the great old ones were born

2 things do not exist without symbolism existing first

3 the foundation reality that sustains everything is actually symbolism

REALITY GAINED A FOUNDATION WHEN THE MOTHER GODDESS OF DEPRAVITY WAS BORN reality already existed, but it was not the foundation Until she was born and brought about her symbolism

Before that everything was still entangled

4 it doesn't have to be outside the reality but just independent of the concept it governs

5 things coming into existence due to the birth of the great old ones

Proved independence from the objects in existence

As it isn't dependent on those existences

In my opinion, this is enough to fulfill the requirement of being independent from the place where a day govern

But I will go into more detail

With the fact that reality gained the foundation after symbolism was born

It shows in reality symbolism is the one that sustains everything

Meaning, it isn't dependent on reality But another symbolism which being dependent on symbolism, if they are type one wouldn't disqualify it from being type one

Some additional information

That will just add like sprinkles to the argument

Symbolism stated to transcend the infinite abstractions of the spirit world

This proves they are beyond abstractions and above both reality and the spirit world as it doesn't use the word abstract and multiple statements of being upper or higher on top of the transcendent statement should imply it's not just abstraction, but transcendence

The fact that the lord of the mysteries could also destroy an infinite dimensional object adds to the possibility of 1A

And this proves, everything within the concept could be affected And destroyed