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The Odyssey versus Interstellar Admissions in South Korea: Chart, Weekly, Weekend and Daily Comps. Interstellar ended with 10.3M admissions, can The Odyssey do better?
Spider-Man Brand New Day ($794M) vs. Star Wars The Force Awakens ($750M) after 18 days. BND has made it to the end of TFA's lucrative holiday period with a $44M lead and has finally broken ahead of the F4 line. Beating TFA is now effectively locked.
Until now, no film has ever made it to day 18 with a lead over TFA. No Way Home was caught on day 7 while Endgame fell at day 15. Today marks the end of TFA's boosted holiday dailies (January 4) and so with a $44M lead, BND is pretty much guaranteed to take the domestic crown and exceed $936M in its run.
To explain why this is basically locked I've been comparing BND with Fantastic Four: The First Steps adjusted by a scale factor so that its final gross is $936m, the exact same as TFA. It was a late summer Marvel movie, so should be suitable comp to assess daily and weekly drops without seasonal factors that hinder direct comparison with TFA or Endgame.
F4 had really bad legs (2.33x), even worse than Endgame (2.4x) which BND is demonstrably dropping better than. This means if BND can climb above the adjusted F4 line, beating TFA domestic will be locked.
Today BND overtook the F4 line for the first time in its run. The respective totals are $794,043,660 and $793,805,914. It did this convincingly, grossing $7.5M versus the adjusted F4's $6.0M. The table below shows the daily comparisons:
| Day | BND Daily | BND Total | 3.415x F4 Daily | 3.415x F4 Total | BND/F4 Daily |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1st Thu | 72,000,000 | 72,000,000 | 83,326,000 | 83,326,000 | 0.864 |
| 1st Fri | 97,843,039 | 169,843,039 | 112,235,908 | 195,561,908 | 0.872 |
| 1st Sat | 101,525,640 | 271,368,679 | 113,819,604 | 309,381,512 | 0.892 |
| 1st Sun | 88,722,893 | 360,091,572 | 92,375,576 | 401,757,088 | 0.960 |
| 1st Mon | 47,064,608 | 407,156,180 | 35,586,755 | 437,343,843 | 1.323 |
| 1st Tue | 42,013,437 | 449,169,617 | 48,458,287 | 485,802,130 | 0.867 |
| 1st Wed | 32,706,817 | 481,876,434 | 29,564,864 | 515,366,993 | 1.106 |
| 2nd Thu | 28,212,094 | 510,088,528 | 25,663,380 | 541,030,374 | 1.099 |
| 2nd Fri | 42,779,675 | 552,868,203 | 39,793,520 | 580,823,893 | 1.075 |
| 2nd Sat | 56,706,158 | 609,574,361 | 52,489,803 | 633,313,697 | 1.080 |
| 2nd Sun | 44,768,553 | 654,342,914 | 39,862,670 | 673,176,367 | 1.123 |
| 2nd Mon | 16,685,732 | 671,028,646 | 15,520,086 | 688,696,452 | 1.075 |
| 2nd Tue | 20,037,431 | 691,066,077 | 21,757,436 | 710,453,888 | 0.921 |
| 2nd Wed | 13,513,702 | 704,579,779 | 13,402,670 | 723,856,558 | 1.008 |
| 3rd Thu | 11,300,000 | 715,879,779 | 10,070,343 | 733,926,901 | 1.122 |
| 3rd Fri | 18,924,657 | 734,804,436 | 15,473,037 | 749,399,938 | 1.223 |
| 3rd Sat | 29,135,374 | 763,939,810 | 22,028,526 | 771,428,464 | 1.323 |
| 3rd Sun | 22,603,850 | 786,543,660 | 16,403,416 | 787,831,881 | 1.378 |
| 3rd Mon | 7,500,000 | 794,043,660 | 5,974,034 | 793,805,914 | 1.255 |
The reason why I believe beating TFA is now locked is because BND has been heavily outperforming adjusted F4 on the weekends and is now starting to significantly outperform it on the weekdays too as evidenced by the multiplier column. On top of that BND is facing virtually no competition for the next month and it will have a labour day boost. It would take a collapse of epic proportions for it to fall behind F4's dailies now.
All hail the new box office king!
Yiheng Wang is currently on a streak of 50 official sub-5 averages in a row dating back to May and covering 17 competitions
Spider-Man Brand New Day vs. Star Wars The Force Awakens Domestic Totals after 14 Days. Beating TFA is still not locked as BND enters a crucial third weekend that may decide it. Will a $64M lead be enough for Spider-Man? Details inside
TFA has cut down BND's lead from $114m to $64m over the last four days as it enjoyed its final week of the Christmas corridor. Starting from Monday both films will be on a "level playing field", though with that said TFA still had impressive holds going into January.
So to determine if BND's lead is big enough, I have also plotted Fantastic Four: The First Steps adjusted by a scale factor so that its final gross is $936m, the exact same as TFA. It was a late summer Marvel movie, so should be suitable comp to assess daily and weekly drops without seasonal factors that hinder direct comparison with TFA or Endgame.
F4 had really bad legs (2.32x), even worse than Endgame (2.4x) which BND is demonstrably dropping better than. That means if BND can climb above the adjusted F4 line, beating TFA domestic will be locked.
BND has been outperforming F4 on the weekends but struggling to outpace it on the weekdays (dailies below). It currently trails the grey line by $18m, a gap that has not changed much since last Sunday. This weekend will be its chance to strike as the adjusted F4 grossed only $53.9m. BND is targeting $60m+ off of a $11.3m Thursday and will need to gross well above that to make beating the TFA record more likely than a coin flip.
We are now at a crucial point in the run where the gap between the F4 and TFA line narrow. If BND fails to make a dent this weekend then the chance of it getting the record is going to begin to slip next week.
Dailies are below:
| Day | BND Daily | BND Total | 3.415x F4 Daily | 3.415x F4 Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1st Thu | 72,000,000 | 72,000,000 | 83,326,000 | 83,326,000 |
| 1st Fri | 97,843,039 | 169,843,039 | 112,235,908 | 195,561,908 |
| 1st Sat | 101,525,640 | 271,368,679 | 113,819,604 | 309,381,512 |
| 1st Sun | 88,722,893 | 360,091,572 | 92,375,576 | 401,757,088 |
| 1st Mon | 47,064,608 | 407,156,180 | 35,586,755 | 437,343,843 |
| 1st Tue | 42,013,437 | 449,169,617 | 48,458,287 | 485,802,130 |
| 1st Wed | 32,706,817 | 481,876,434 | 29,564,864 | 515,366,993 |
| 2nd Thu | 28,212,094 | 510,088,528 | 25,663,380 | 541,030,374 |
| 2nd Fri | 42,779,675 | 552,868,203 | 39,793,520 | 580,823,893 |
| 2nd Sat | 56,706,158 | 609,574,361 | 52,489,803 | 633,313,697 |
| 2nd Sun | 44,768,553 | 654,342,914 | 39,862,670 | 673,176,367 |
| 2nd Mon | 16,685,732 | 671,028,646 | 15,520,086 | 688,696,452 |
| 2nd Tue | 20,037,431 | 691,066,077 | 21,757,436 | 710,453,888 |
| 2nd Wed | 13,513,702 | 704,579,779 | 13,402,670 | 723,856,558 |
| 3rd Thu | 11,300,000 | 715,879,779 | 10,070,343 | 733,926,901 |
| 3rd Fri | - | 15,473,037 | 749,399,938 | |
| 3rd Sat | - | 22,028,526 | 771,428,464 | |
| 3rd Sun | - | 16,403,416 | 787,831,881 | |
| 3rd Mon | - | 5,974,034 | 793,805,914 | |
| 3rd Tue | - | 9,026,046 | 802,831,961 | |
| 3rd Wed | - | 5,663,077 | 808,495,038 | |
| 4th Thu | - | 5,086,192 | 813,581,230 | |
| 4th Fri | - | 8,532,705 | 822,113,935 | |
| 4th Sat | - | 13,047,803 | 835,161,738 | |
| 4th Sun | - | 9,259,236 | 844,420,975 |
thenumbersfan on BOT: Upcoming IMAX showtimes for BND, Odyssey and Oak Street - BND loses a third of showtimes from last Friday while Odyssey regains some and over 100 theatres. Oak Street has a small allocation.
PSA: Niftski and Lekukie are both streaming TAS tie attempts at the same time
Tonight might be the night! Good to see Lekukie is back after his roof collapsed.
Both are practicing right now: https://www.youtube.com/live/J1Mgced59k4
https://www.youtube.com/live/0LWBoK9_9Vs
Edit: Lekukie is now starting runs
Edit: Niftski is now starting runs as well
Edit: Niftski made it to 8-4 SEVEN times on record pace, including in back to back attempts.
Spider-Man BND vs. Star Wars TFA Domestic Totals after 10 Days - BND's quest for the #1 crown is almost locked as TFA is running out of holidays (details inside)
On Monday morning BND had a $113m lead over TFA. That lead grew to as much as $124m on Tuesday before TFA pegged it back to $115m after weekend 2, based on the current estimates. With only one week of holiday weekdays left, TFA is quickly running out of time to close the gap.
Nevertheless, a >$100m lead can disappear very quickly, for comparison Endgame was $109m ahead after weekend 1, had dropped to $81m after weekend 2, and astonishingly was overtaken less than a week later by TFAs monstrous second weekdays. It ended its run almost $80m behind.
So to determine if BND's lead is big enough, I have also plotted Fantastic Four: The First Steps adjusted by a scale factor so that its final gross is $936m, the exact same as TFA. It was a late summer Marvel movie, so should be suitable comp to assess daily and weekly drops without seasonal factors that hinder direct comparison with TFA or Endgame.
F4 had really bad legs (2.32x), even worse than Endgame (2.4x) which BND is demonstrably dropping better than. That means if BND can climb above the adjusted F4 line, beating TFA domestic will be locked.
BND has closed the gap from $41m a week ago to just $18m today and looks ready to break through the line. Barring a collapse in the next set of weekdays I think it will. These are the dailies it will need to hit in the next week to do it:
| Day | Brand New Day | 3.415x F4 | Brand New Day Dailies | 3.415x F4 Dailies |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2nd Fri | $553,089,000 | $580,823,893 | $43,000,472 | $39,793,520 |
| 2nd Sat | $610,089,000 | $633,313,697 | $57,000,000 | $52,489,803 |
| 2nd Sun | $655,089,000 | $673,176,367 | $45,000,000 | $39,862,670 |
| 2nd Mon | $688,696,452 | $15,520,086 | ||
| 2nd Tue | $710,453,888 | $21,757,436 | ||
| 2nd Wed | $723,856,558 | $13,402,670 | ||
| 3rd Thu | $733,926,901 | $10,070,343 | ||
| 3rd Fri | $749,399,938 | $15,473,037 | ||
| 3rd Sat | $771,428,464 | $22,028,526 | ||
| 3rd Sun | $787,831,881 | $16,403,416 |
If BND can gross $132m in week 3, then it will overtake F4 adjusted. This would require a 55% week-to-week drop.
The final comp on the chart is another late summer Marvel movie: Deadpool & Wolverine, again adjusted by a scale factor to end at $936m. This serves as a floor for BND to stay ahead of. It is demonstrably dropping worse than D&W which had a 3x multiplier, so if it were to fall below its line, there would be no way for it to recover and get back ahead of TFA. The lead has remained steady at ~$70m throughout this week so there is little sign of BND falling below that.
Overall I think beating TFA is nearly locked, and if it can hit $788m by the end of weekend 3 that will seal the deal as for it to fail to beat it from that point it would need to collapse worse than a late summer MCU movie that itself collapsed worse than Endgame.
UK Thursday Box Office - BND drops 52% from its full opening day, Odyssey drops 15%
Niftski ties the TAS from 1-1 until the turnaround room in 8-4, setting a new record for the furthest anyone has kept pace with the TAS
youtube.comSpider-Man Brand New Day vs. The Force Awakens Daily Grosses after Day 6
It's almost $125 million ahead of TFA, which is a simply staggering number considering TFA had a holiday boost as well. With that said, TFA continues to go almost vertical until day 18 while Spidey will not have the luxury of summer holiday weekdays for much longer, so I wanted to compare it with two other late summer movies so that we can factor out the calendar configuration.
Step in Deadpool & Wolverine (July 26th 2024) and Fantastic Four: The First Steps (July 25th 2025). By themselves Spidey dwarfs their daily grosses, so I have adjusted them by a scale factor that would put their final gross equal to TFAs (notice that they all converge at the end of the graph).
F4 had horrible legs, so that means if Spidey can get ahead of it at any point in its run, I would expect TFAs record to be toast. Right now it trails by $36m. The "adjusted F4" had a $29.5M Wednesday, a $25.7M Thursday and a $132.1M second weekend, which seems beatable!
The adjusted "DP&W" comp and TFA serve more as a floor. Both had good multipliers for movies that opened huge, so that means if Spidey falls behind them at any point in its run, I would expect TFAs record to be safe. TFA made $149.2M in weekend 2 while adjusted DP&W made $142.4M. Both totals again seem beatable so Spidey should extend its lead and remain safely above both going into week 2.