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My experience with Back Market: A review

First, this is my own experience with Back Market, and perhaps not indicative of everyone's experience.
Second, I'm sharing this as a cautionary tale, and an overall review.

Placed my first order 07SEP26 for two laptops.
Received them on 15SEP after several delays in shipping.

16SEP:
Realized I could not upgrade the 512GB SSD's, missing cable inside the laptop.
Set up return, took about four hours, a dozen or so chats, and another dozen emails.
Once they accepted the return and gave me the label:

16SEP:
Placed order #2, same laptops, better specs that meet/exceed what I need.

24SEP:
After five separate delays, the laptops finally arrived.
The box they showed up in was pretty beat up.
Got them home, checked them out, found issues, documented with photos and notes, reported all to back Market in the 'get help' button on the website.

  1. One of the chargers doesn't work. Requested replacement with return label for the bad one.
  2. One of the laptops has a damaged 'E' button; the button works, but they key is 'blurry'. I asked them to please advise best course of action here; since I'm new to the platform, I wanted to understand what th eexpectation is.
  3. Shipping was delayed multiple times, causing delays in my world. Please advise options/expectations.
  4. Shipping box was damaged. Please advise options/expectations.
    We had several dozen chats back and forth, and this is where the real problems started; I provided all of the images requested to them several times, and they started arguing, saying I did not provide all the images, and to please provide the images. Each time, I pointed out that I had already, and then I did so again. At this point there were about 20 images requested, so I just kept giving them the entire package since they weren't clear on WHICH image was missing.
    (I understand this pissed them off, but instead of seeking to resolve, they just got mean and nasty).

This continued back and forth over several days, and I made a few phone calls during this time to 'help move things forward', but they were very rude over the phone, telling me all the steps they need to complete first, but not doing any of them (Classic BCS).
I shared my log with them (link to my file with all the details in it, available to them anytime, no login or download required).

28SEP:
More emails back and forth, they're still arguing and accusing, not helping.
Called 3 times, they just hang up on me.
Filed BBB Complaint.

29SEP:
I found out the first order was being sent back to me instead of being refunded, so I added that to the log and issue pile, reported it to Back Market and to my bank.
When I alerted my bank, I found out that Back Market has a 'high risk' rating due to 'so very many issues with fraud and return/refund issues'. My banker also advised that they had more than 100 customers who have dealt with this same matter, and each time a dispute had to be filed in order to receive a refund.

More emails back and forth, the BCS is growing and we're just not getting anywhere.
I filed the dispute with my bank for order #1.

I did receive an email from BM saying they had asked the seller to send a replacement charger, but no further information was given.

30SEP:
BBB Closed the complaint, says they've had too many complaints and don't want to deal with it.
They've had more than 1,000 complaints the last three years!
https://www.bbb.org/us/ny/new-york/profile/online-retailer/back-market-inc-0121-176814/complaints

01OCT:
I called to follow up in the hopes of getting these things sorted out.
I made three calls, all three times they hung up on me.
Agents continue to harass and abuse, refusing to help.
The BCS has gotten out of control, so I set up an auto-responder in my email saying the issues persist, all details have beeen provided, we're awaiting resolutions, and the link to my log with literally all of the details I posess.
(I understand this also pissed them off, however, instead of aiming to resolve the issues, they became abusive towards me).

The package from the first order arrived back to me, I rejected it and had it sent back.

02OCT:
Checked the emails, same whining and crying about missing information, nothing about what exactly is missing, just accusing me of 'not willing to provide information needed'.
I specifically asked them, 'What exact information do you need? If you'll just tell me, I'll get it and send it to you right away.' They refused and replied with the same BCS.
Three calls again, agents again not willing to help, just hanging up on me.

03OCT:
They've blocked my number; when I call, I get a busy signal.
Using a workaround, I call and it goes right through.
Spokje with Atoro, he lectured me, accused me of being 'unprofessional', and then hung up on me.
HAH!

05OCT:
Phone number is still blocked, used workaround, talked with Natalie, asked for a supervisor since she refused to assist me.
She ran me around for about 15 minutes, then hung up on me after saying, "F*Ck you, you stupid american trash".
(This, for me, is where the fight started).
At this point I wrote out a simple script, set up an auto-dialer, and got to work>
I call, I give my script, "Hey it's (me) again, issues persist, details given, awaiting resolution, unable to proceed due to BCS, please resolve all issues now, or connect a supervisor now".
Turns out, you do that about ten times, and they get REALLY mad at you (me).
I made more than 100 phone calls seeking help, and they just kept arguing, fighting, lying, accusing, blaming, but never working on the issues.

06OCT:
I found out, and reported via email and phone that I was not able to log in to my account online.

First three calls, I gave them all the details they asked for, and in all three calls, they ignored the details, lied, accused me of not wanting to give the details, called me names, and hung up on me.
At this point I switched to 'Zero Tolerance mode' and carried on with the calls.
More than 200 across the day, none of them would stop abusing or arguing.
I checked my online banking and found four separate refunds from BM, pending.

Late in the day I received a package with a replacement charger. I tested it, it works fine.
I checked with my bank and the refunds had processed through, that's my money now.
I added it all up and found that they have refunded both orders in full.

07OCT:
Reviewing the aftermath, it took more than 600 phone calls, 150 emails, and six dozen chats to get them to get anything done.
It was a monumental event, more than 90% of the communications from them were harassing, disrespectful, inappropriate, unprofessional, and/or insulting, and instead of simply working with the customer (me) to resolve the issues, they chose this nonsense and burned the bridge.

I got an email from them this morning asking me for a review of the case... HAH!

So I am monetarily whole, the rest of the open issues don't matter since they're not a trustworthy vendor anymore, and the lawsuit for the abuse is in the works.

My summary:
If you order from them and nothing goes wrong, GREAT! You'll never have to deal with their garbage 'Customer Service' and things will carry right along.
If you order from them and something does go wrong, well, then it will suck (unless you're Indian, Pakistani, or Philipino; friends of mine who are that called BM were treated MUCH better than myseld anf my other White friends).
Since online reviews indicate that more than half of the orders placed through BM have issues, and more than half of those never get resolved, it seems to me that this company is not trustworthy.

Buyer Beware, YMMV, Proceed At Your Own Risk.

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u/dleach4512 — 8 days ago

Migrating from Evernote - is there a better/less manual way?

I'm currently migrating from EverNote to Joplin, but so far it's manually per notebook.

Since I have > 100 notebooks, is there abetter or easier way that exporting the notebook from evernote then importing and manually organizing it in Joplin?

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u/dleach4512 — 15 days ago

Best way to import into Joplin from Evernote

Making the jump, starting the learning curve.

How best do I import evernote notes into Joplin?
When I export out of Evernote I can do so as .enex or .html.
When I import into Joplin, I get four different options just for a .enex file:
HTML,
Markdown
Directory HTML, and
Directory Markdown.

How do I figure out which one is best?

Also, is there a tool somewhere that would do the whole switch for me?
This one got answered, there IS a tool, which I will explore soon.

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u/dleach4512 — 2 months ago
▲ 1 r/rims

Seeking subreddit for Dayton truck wheels

Howdy all!

I'm ISO of a subreddit where I can learn all about Dayton truck wheels, the rims, wedges, tires, and sources for parts.

Link to show what I mean by 'Dayton Truck Wheel':
https://www.google.com/search?q=dayton+truck+wheel&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1171US1171&oq=dayton+truck+wheel&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg8MgYIAhBFGDwyBggDEEUYPNIBCDE3MTJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&source=chrome.ob&ie=UTF-8

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u/dleach4512 — 2 months ago

Ayone using Umaxx5G Internet?

ETA:

They're not willing to provide the terms and conditions they require a customer to agree with prior to ordering, so I won't be ordering from them.
I'm still curious though, so please do chime in if you're a user!

OP:

Looking for actual reviews of the Umaxx 5G internet device and service.

For internet access I can take on the road with me, @ $60/month, that seems to be a solid option, but I see so little information about them online.

So, for those of you in the USA who have it and use it, what do you like, what do you not like?

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u/dleach4512 — 3 months ago

Internet on the road - better than $60/month?

Howdy all!
I'm looking for options I may have missed; best I have found so far is $60/month for UMaxx Cellular internet.

I'm in a TT, I travel all over the USA for work, I need 10+ MBps for solid video calling while working with project files, I want unlimited since I don't actually know how much data I use in a month, and I dream of a day when I could also ask for good customer service.
I already own a FWA55V5L so if I could re-use that, I'm game, otherwise, something decicated to this task with an ethernet port out is needed.

I had straight talk for $35/month for a long time, but I had billing failure issues so many times that I finally left.
I tried Visible Home Internet; it's slow, very jumpy, and often stops altogether 3-10 times a day for a minute to five minutes at a time.

I've found lots of options out there, narrowed them down to what appears to be real (looking at your, Ryoko) and now sorting by price.
I realize cellular service isn't available/great everywhere, but I rarely have issues with that, so for now, I'm sticking with cell.

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u/dleach4512 — 3 months ago
▲ 1 r/PKMS

Evernote to Joplin: Your thoughts?

Hello and good morning!

So, I'm leaving evernote behind, I did a LOT of searching all over the internet, and ended up settling on Joplin to try out.

Right now I'm looking for anything that's better than Joplin (for my use case) that I haven't already considered.

According to my evernote stats, I have:
Notes 2,509 used
Notebooks 111 used
Devices 8 used
Attachments 4,925 used
Storage (MB) 9,036 used
Tags 21 used

My use case:
I keep my personal digital library here, notebooks of things I'm working on, reference files, ideas and 'someday' things, etc.
I will occasionally share these for other people to read, or publish something to the web and embed it in my website.
Should I wish to collaborate, I do so with Google Drive.

I do sometimes add files, usually in my vendor logs.

Right now I'm looking for any reason NOT to keep and use Joplin, the only one I have so far is that's it's NOT based int he USA.
Everything else I see and use in Joplin so far seems awesome, and I plan to purchase the $8/month sync plan to use this on other devices.

My current searching workbook: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1skOpAquNxn_-TwEkfJ4IqSwHMFLlrK4ICC5DiqqE26k/edit?usp=sharing

Do you use something that's like Joplin and is based in the USA?
Do you use something that's simple, clean, and effecive that's not in my sheet already?

Old post for further reading: :https://www.reddit.com/r/PKMS/comments/1tqpaq1/replacing\_evernote\_whats\_best/

u/dleach4512 — 3 months ago

Where is AN C/S based?

I found that the company itself is headquartered in Seattle, WA; where is their customer service based?

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u/dleach4512 — 3 months ago

Speech to text using bluetooth headset

Is there a fix for the speech to text issue?

On my Samsung S20+ (yes, I know, an antique), whenever I attempt to use speech to text with my bluetooth headset (or any bluetooth headset or device) the words are either garbled, or just not showing up at all. If I hold the headset to my face, it works fine.
Googling led me to see that this is a known issue; is there a way to get around it?

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u/dleach4512 — 3 months ago
▲ 3 r/gboard

Speech to text using bluetooth headset

Is there a fix for the speech to text issue?

On my Samsung S20+ (yes, I know, an antique), whenever I attempt to use speech to text with my bluetooth headset (or any bluetooth headset or device) the words are either garbled, or just not showing up at all. If I hold the headset to my face, it works fine.
Googling led me to see that this is a known issue; is there a way to get around it?

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u/dleach4512 — 3 months ago

ISO Gerber MP600 Bladeless

Is the Gerber MP600 Bladeless still available for purchase?

I've got two, love the things, would like to get 1-2 more to have handy, but I'm not finding them anywhere online anymore.

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u/dleach4512 — 4 months ago
▲ 1 r/CarAV

ISO: Tracking device to replace Tracki Pro

I have a Tracki Pro that I need to replace, looking for recommendations for a solid, reliable device, and solid, reliable tracking.

Looking for something portable/magnetic that can provide live tracking when I need it, and just movement alerts with a battery saving mode.
Must have USA based Customer Service, I'm fed up with the.... alternative.
Bonus if it's a system that has fixed the 'GPS float' issue!

What do you have and use that you love?

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u/dleach4512 — 4 months ago
▲ 10 r/PKMS

Replacing evernote - what's best?

I've finally decided to replace evernote (blah blah blah, whine whine whine).

For those who have switched, what did you find that made sense?
I use the notes, I put files into the notes, I use notebooks, I use notebook stacks, and I use the tags (2 tags per note MAX).

I'd LOVE to find something that I can export date from evernote and import the data into the new platform, but I'm happy to just have something that actually works.

Cheif issues with Evernote:
It's slow AF on larger notes (past 10 pages and it just takes 2-5 minutes to load)
It's slow everywhere in everything sometimes
It freezes sometimes while I'm typing
The price keeps going up
Reliablity and ease of use keep going down.

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u/dleach4512 — 5 months ago

How to read/understand tax transcripts/information about my history

IRS

I'm looking for help figuring out how best to undertand my tax history. I've had a CPA for a long, they retired, and I'm behind on my taxes, not sure how far behind.
I'm finally able to login to my IRS account online, but I can't seem to figure out how to know which years taxes were filed, and which were not.

Help?

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u/dleach4512 — 5 months ago

New to Starlink, gifted a unit, where to start?

I was gifted a starlink unit that came out of a move out clean out, nobody seems to know anything about it.

I've never had or used starlink, so where do I start / how do I begin to figure out what this unit is capable of, what condition it's in, etc?

Physically it seems to be in fine condition, I've got the dish, the router, the cable to connect to the two, and a power cable for the router. I have not even plugged it in yet.

I've done a lot of work with internet and networking things in general, setting up WiMax and cellular internet, but most of what I read about starlink is that it's a huge p i t a so I'd like to start on the right foot.

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u/dleach4512 — 5 months ago
▲ 11 r/aikido

Dealing with Indigo Dye....

Howdy!
For those of you with Hakama, and those that got one with Indigo blue dye, is it something you just deal with until it stops bleeding out, or did you find a way to make it stop bleeding (crocking).

I'm looking to find out how common it is for Hakama wearers to deal with the blue dye from the Hakama that ends up all over the Gi and the hands.

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u/dleach4512 — 5 months ago

Howdy!
Shopping for insurance, personal auto for my vehicle, having trouble getting it done.
Who am I missing? Who else should I look at?

Allstate - quoted, wont' let me buy online, website issues.

Geico - quoted, won't let me login, wont' fix login issues.

Progressive - Says I have to call, when I call, I get aloop recording, 'Please call our new number (gives the same number I'm calling)

Liberty Mutual - Quoted, pretty high.

Nationwide Mutual - Quoted over the phone, refused to email me the quotes for review, tried to pressure me into a sale right now.

Root Insurance - Quoted online, VERY high.

SafeCo - Won't quote online, says I have to wait for an agent to call in 2-3 days.

Farmers - Quoted, pretty high.

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u/dleach4512 — 6 months ago
▲ 6 r/aikido

Howdy!
I'm finally shopping for a hakama, having trouble finding a reliable brand/source in the USA.

I'm seeking a Navy/Dark blue or black, 100% cotton hakama for Aikido, something made in USA would be great, something already in the USA is necessary so I don't have to wait weeks for shipping.

Where do you get your awesome gear?

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u/dleach4512 — 6 months ago