From which side did Yamnaya derive language from?

So, Yamnaya profile was formed as admix between Sredny Stog (55-66%) and Remontnoye type (34-45%). This is just autosomal contribution from each side.

Haplogroups wise, Sredny Stog is mostly I2 which becomes minority (<10%) in Yamnaya and pretty much disappears post Yamnaya. Whereas Remontnoye type has J2b-L283 (major Balkans Yamnaya pulse which caused language shift in Balkans, cf. Albanian, Greek, Daco-Thracian). They also had R1b-M269 (we found it in Steppe Eneolithic individual NV3003).

So as it seems, Yamnaya is paternally derived from Remontnoye type, and the paternal contribution of Sredny Stog is:-

  • Very minimal

  • The contribution itself vanished in post Yamnaya and doesn't survive in significance anywhere, part of the reason you never hear about I2 in PIE discussion, and the focus is always R1b/R1a etc.

So the question - how can Sredny Stog be PIE?

Furthermore it has roots in local Dnieper cultures, which means linking it with Caucasus route for Anatolian branch is difficult

So logically evaluating the data, it seems Yamnaya derived language from the Remontnoye type admix contribution into it.

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u/maindallahoon — 19 days ago

If Steppe hypothesis gets invalidated for Anatolian branch...

What would be the consequences? Share your thoughts how the narrative would shift

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u/maindallahoon — 25 days ago

The Mazandarani people of Iran basically have no actual Steppe MLBA, how does Steppe hypothesis explain this?

Notably the historic era (Parthian Era, Achaemenid-Seleucid Era) samples from North Iran (Marsin Chal, Vestemin, Liarsangbon) also did not have Steppe MLBA input, does this cause issues for Steppe hypothesis with respect to Iranian branch?

u/maindallahoon — 25 days ago

If further evidence showed Steppe hypothesis less tenable for Indo-Iranian

Would you accept the data unbiasedly or be adamant about Steppe hypothesis regardless because last few decades of scholarship has heavily argued for it? Interested in what people think. I personally consider Steppe hypothesis more likely while an alternate route as a distinct possibility

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u/maindallahoon — 29 days ago