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Favorite moment from Book4

Inheritance is filled with a ton of awesome moments. There’s a lot of intensity and lore in it and I think it’s one of the best “final books” ever. But there is one moment that I just find myself randomly remembering:

“The world is round, and the sky is hollow”

Something about that line just always stuck with me. The awe in Eragon and Saphira at their realization is written so well. I remember when I first read the book in high school I finished that chapter and then just read that section over and over again.

Paolini did such an amazing job conveying the overwhelming sense of wonder that someone would have upon discovering those two facts. And Gerard Doyle does an equally fantastic job in his delivery in the audiobook.

Idk why exactly this moment struck me so hard back then and has stuck with me for so long, but it genuinely might be my favorite single line in the entirety of the Inheritance Cycle. Just imaging how my perspective on life might change if, in the middle of such important events, I learned something so momentous. Something I take for granted as common knowledge because I learned it so young is actually this grand and profound piece of hidden knowledge for Eragon.

And he learns it not just in the middle of a war, but right after a harrowing and life-threatening incident on a perilous and necessary journey. And it’s not even the most profound thing he learns in that book. He later gets centuries-worth of knowledge poured into his brain by the Eldunari. But because this one is his knowledge, his realization, it holds so much more weight.

I just love it so much.

The world is round, and the sky is hollow

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u/tir3dant — 1 day ago

Does Vis overestimate his identity?

Maybe I'm just getting the wrong impressions, but I feel like most of the people he knows by the end of SotF wouldn't react as strongly to him being a prince of Suus as he thinks. Even in WotM, I think he could've told Callidus and Eidhin who he was by the time the Iudicium rolled around and they would've been fine with it. Hell, even Emissa might've kept it secret for him after the Iudicium imo. Especially given her guilt over trying to kill him and her awareness of the much higher stakes we learn about in SotF.

As for the others, I think telling Lanistia and Ulciscor at any point in either book would probably have been a bad idea (or outright suicide at certain points) except maybe after the sapper prison break, but Kadmos could probably be trusted with the information by the end of SotF.

Aequa definitely could be trusted with the information after visiting Solivagus with Vis, and I suspect she would have been able to figure it out on her own eventually.

I think the only repercussions from telling Aequa, Emissa, Callidus, or Eidhin at certain points would have been a sense of betrayal at being lied to. But they'd eventually come to terms with it and understand the necessity without feeling like they'd need to turn him in.

Idk. Am I just not understanding the full weight of Vis being "Prince Diago of Suus"? Sure, the Hierarchy would have him killed to avoid any potential uprising he could cause on Suus, but the people that know him best don't seem the type to assume he'd want that and turn him in for it. It just doesn't feel like telling certain people would be as huge a deal as Vis thinks it is

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u/tir3dant — 5 days ago

Arthur as a Knight

Hey how’s it going. I’m only up to Season 2 Episode 16 where Arthur is once again getting a boost from his perception of how “Knightly” he and his situation are. And I’m not sure if this get asked all the time so sorry if it is

But why don’t Vulcan and Licht work together to find a way to get Arthur permanent gear that will keep that amp all the time? Like an upgraded version of the garbage they threw on him at the junkyard. Stuff that is functional while also being immersive for Arthur.

Vulcan spends all his time just tinkering and he’s clearly got time on his hands since he’s constantly making random shit like blenders lol. So why not design some sort of horse-motorcycle. Or a uniform that falls in line with his theme, like how sisters in the force have habits or Maki has a special hat

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u/tir3dant — 12 days ago

Loved their newest bit character

The most recent Waterpark Simulator featured a new character at the end whom I have dubbed “in denial alcoholic who loves champagne”. This new bit has officially dethroned my previous favorite character “Thomas the Victorian boy who doesn’t know he’s about to get murdered”

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u/tir3dant — 27 days ago

Rend

Matt’s descriptions of Rend genuinely make me want to cry 😭

For clarification, I’m talking about Sir Rend the Tummy Acher and not Tserendolgor the crawler.

Even when he gets bigger, the way Matt describes his movements and mannerisms is sickeningly adorable to me. He’s so simple and ugly and babyish and just the best. I want one so badly lol.

He kinda gets sidelined in PoH, which is a bummer, but his limited scenes are fantastic and perfect. But I’m specifically thinking of a scene in TIR since that’s the book I’m on rn in my reread.

It’s towards the beginning of Part 3, when Katia is giving some bacon to Mongo and Rend and when she goes to give Rend his it gets stolen by Mongo. And he just plops down on the ground all sad and I just wanna hold him 😭 he’s so damn cute

I don’t normally get this way about pet/creature descriptions in books and he’s an objectively terrifying thing to see in real life, but I want a Rend so much it almost feels like a need 😂

That’s it. Thanks for listening lol

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u/tir3dant — 29 days ago

Hey, so what was up with this?

I’m on my second read through and am on chapter 73 where Iori and Samura’s past is laid out and I’m not entirely sure what the implication of that bottom middle panel is. Is he imagining Iori killing herself because of her life with him? I don’t remember suicide being mentioned or alluded before or after this so I’m just a little confused

u/tir3dant — 1 month ago

I think I solved the Apartment

I know we’ve all mostly accepted that the apartment for Carl and Donut in the final Heat was meant to be the “What If” scenario of “What if Beatrice gave away Donut like she planned”. But I’d like to add an additional layer to this. It’s fine that the apartment only targets Donut, but it’s possible for it to also be a 2-for-1

I think the scenario is actually “What if Carl found out about Beatrice deleting the messages from Tami-Lynn”

With this, Carl has an incident that (aside from the cheating) is enough to finally get him to leave such a blatantly awful partner. And without Carl, there isn’t a single barrier to stop Beatrice from giving up Donut way sooner than she’d been planning (since she had been planning to for a while but Carl kept telling her not to).

This creates a double gut-punch in this “What If” y introducing the concept of Carl being able to do basically the only thing he wishes he’d been able to do pre-Dungeon: meet and help Asher. But the only way he gets to do this is if he’s forever separated from Donut. Donut loses not just her mother in Bea, but her person and Carl loses a companion he had genuinely grown to love even before the Dungeon.

Might be overthinking it lol but what do y’all think?

Edit: Alright my bad y’all. Instead of “giving her to Marjorie” it’s way more likely Bea sold Donut and got rid of the excess food. But the main point of the post is the whole “Carl gets to be with his brother but loses Donut” portion and I feel like nobody is addressing that one lol😭

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u/tir3dant — 1 month ago

Need some help working out a problem

Hey guys! I’m currently in the process of rewriting the chapters of a fanfic I had started last year because I realized I wasn’t entirely happy with the quality of my writing and a few other plot-related details.

Right now I’m reworking one of the driving conflicts of the early plot and was hoping to get some help ironing out the details and/or perspective on whether or not the problem makes any actual sense.

The fic is Jon-centered and the premise is him being made a lord in a repopulated Gift (it’s called The House of Ice and Fire if anyone is interested lol). The problem I’m talking about is this:

While Jon has been in Winterfell being trained by Ned and waiting to be old enough to take over at his new castle, his steward has been handling most of the business at his holdings. The conflict I’ve set up is that the population of the Gift has had recent boom that has left them underprepared for the upcoming change in seasons, without enough food stores to provide for the increased number of mouths over the course of what is predicted to be an extended winter. Jon is meant to notice this problem and find a solution.

My issue, as pointed out by a friend of mine who is helping me, is that for this situation to arise (Jon noticing the problem) then either everyone in Jon’s household (and the other lords in the Gift) has to be stupid or actively ignoring the problem or they were attempting to sanatorium him. I don’t want either of these to be the case, but I’m having trouble figuring out how to set it all up so that Jon comes off as clever without making everyone around him stupider or malicious.

What I have now is that the recent population growth happened both quickly and quietly enough that the problem with food went unnoticed until someone with fresh eyes notices and does the math. Sort of a “frog in the boiling pot” situation where the growing population is just a passive occurrence and nobody realizes the implications. I thought this made sense, but my friend (who admittedly doesn’t have any exposure to ASOIAF beyond a basic idea of the show and some characters and things i have explained in the process of her reviewing my chapters) brought up the point that a culture (such as the North) who has such a heavy focus on preparing for winter should notice that their population has grown very suddenly and they don’t have enough food. Which led her to conclude that Jon’s staff is either incompetent or intentionally sabotaging him, neither of which are the case.

Any tips? Should I consider scrapping this plot altogether? Or do you think it works as is and she’s overthinking it? Idk lol. Thank you to anyone who reads this and especially thank you to anyone who responds

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u/tir3dant — 2 months ago

Tartarean fanfics [general]

This is something I originally posted in the fanfic subreddit fyi

Hey all! I’m new to writing fanfic in general (I only have a single ASOIAF fic under my belt and it’s still unfinished) but I’ve had an idea for an OC for a long time as well as a general story for him. I’ve got a couple questions regarding the PJO fanfic community, the first one being: is there an interest in a concept like this? I know fanfic is a market saturated with op characters and I imagine PJO has more than its fair share due to the nature of making a half-god OC lol.

Second would be if this is actually an already common parentage idea for an OC? I’m gonna write this fic regardless, but certain aspects and details will be altered depending on how many children of Tartarus are already floating around AO3 so that I don’t accidentally bite off somebody else’s ideas.

And thirdly, what vibes do people generally look for in PJO fanfics? Since the only real experience I have with writing or reading fanfic is ASOIAF, idk if a series more geared towards a younger audience is generally going to have fanfics that are lighter and shy away from darker themes and stories. I know PJO and the later series aren’t necessarily “children’s books” and aren’t afraid to touch on more mature topics, but the idea I have for this fanfic isn’t really one that fits the general tones of the Riordanverse books. I don’t have anything extreme in mind, just a little heavier than you’d find in your typical Rick Rioran book. I’m wondering if I should step back from that a little and write it to be a bit closer to the light hearted writing the main series typically maintains.

Any responses would be greatly appreciated!

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u/tir3dant — 2 months ago

Tartarean OC fanfics

Hey all! I’m new to writing fanfic in general (I only have a single ASOIAF fic under my belt and it’s still unfinished) but I’ve had an idea for an OC for a long time as well as a general story for him. I’ve got a couple questions regarding the PJO fanfic community, the first one being: is there an interest in a concept like this? I know fanfic is a market saturated with op characters and I imagine PJO has more than its fair share due to the nature of making a half-god OC lol.

Second would be if this is actually an already common parentage idea for an OC? I’m gonna write this fic regardless, but certain aspects and details will be altered depending on how many children of Tartarus are already floating around AO3 so that I don’t accidentally bite off somebody else’s ideas.

And thirdly, what vibes do people generally look for in PJO fanfics? Since the only real experience I have with writing or reading fanfic is ASOIAF, idk if a series more geared towards a younger audience is generally going to have fanfics that are lighter and shy away from darker themes and stories. I know PJO and the later series aren’t necessarily “children’s books” and aren’t afraid to touch on more mature topics, but the idea I have for this fanfic isn’t really one that fits the general tones of the Riordanverse books. I don’t have anything extreme in mind, just a little heavier than you’d find in your typical Rick Rioran book. I’m wondering if I should step back from that a little and write it to be a bit closer to the light hearted writing the main series typically maintains.

Any responses would be greatly appreciated!

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u/tir3dant — 2 months ago

Why did Ryan stay with Kelly?

Currently on yet another rewatch and I’m most of the way through season 3. I keep asking myself “Why doesn’t Ryan just break up with Kelly?”

Every time we see him on screen with her or talking about her he’s completely miserable. I get the later seasons why he goes back and everything, the whole toxic codependency thing. But until season 4 Ryan is a relatively normal guy, albeit arrogant and somewhat condescending. But from the moment they first get together until he gets the job in New York, the only time he even approaches an end to the relationship is when he thinks the branch is closing.

I just don’t get it lol. Why does he stay with her despite how unhappy he is?

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u/tir3dant — 2 months ago

Sojo and Hiruhiko

Do you think the two would have been friends?

Hiruhiko and (especially) Sojo are two of the best “small time” villains I’ve ever seen in a Shonen. When I say “small time” I don’t mean unimportant or weak, just that they aren’t viewed as endgame antagonists by the protagonist. Sojo and Hiruhiko are, in Chihiro’s eyes, just two detours that stand in the way of his goals, even if one is directly tied to the organization at the root of that goal. In terms of JJK (since there seems to be a large crossover between these fandoms) they would be closer to Hanami and Dagon than Sukuna or even Mahito.

But what I’m interested in rn is what these two would be like together. They both have a very interesting relationship with Chihiro and the Enchanted Blades and they both feel very similar on-page. Not identical, and not even like they’re in the same category necessarily, but just similar vibes. I’d love to see a side story centered on them interacting tbh. And I’d love to know if they’d be buddies or not lol

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u/tir3dant — 2 months ago

… did the same thing as Tanavast. Kinda.

When Tanavast died, he and the power of Honor infused the Stormfather spren with all of his memories, giving the Stormfather an elevated sort of sapience that he had not previously had.

Dalinar, in his vision of the Rift, poured all his memories into the Blackthorn he fought as a way to subdue him/it without beating him/it down like he used to do.

Then, at the end of the book, Taravangian took that version of Dalinar and made him into a spren. And the Blackthorn became an echo/shadow/splinter of Dalinar the same way the Stormfather was for Tanavast. The only difference being that the order of creation was reversed: instead of being a spren and then becoming an echo with memories, the Blackthorn was an echo given memories that then became a spren.

I’m probably really slow on the uptake on this one, but it’s all clicking for me suddenly while I stock shelves at work 😂😅

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u/tir3dant — 4 months ago