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You can give a character the ability "Return by Death" who you choose?

If you had to choose one character on the whole ASOIAF story to give the ability "Return by Death" from the anime Re:Zero, who would you choose?

I'm not Really a big fan of this anime so I dont know every detail of the Power system, what i do know is that its a Very Interesting ability and here it is how It works in the context of this question: "Every time the character dies they are brought back in time", in the anime the save points are manually choosen by an outsider character, so here we will have 1 single save point: The start of the Books. If the character is Ned Stark for example They would be brought back to where They were on their First appearance in the books, in this case, beheding the Night's Watch Man, and so on for each character.

The character still feels the pain and no one else retains their memories of the time jump.

Who do you choose and how do you think they would use this ability? Do you Think They would go mad? How do you think this would change canon?

The ability would appear when they die for the first time, If They still havent died in Canon then you can choose a random death event for the character and go on from there. (Example: I give this power to Arya and she wakens it after dying by the hands of Raff, as she cut his throat he had a luck shot and stabbed her in the guts, and so on)

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u/Ok_Return170 — 4 hours ago

has there ever been a fic where someone lies about jon being rhaegar’s

like he is actually ned’s bastard with ashara dayne or whoever but someone, to serve their own goals or for whatever reason, is able to convincingly fabricate the narrative that he is rhaegar’s son and a legitimate targaryen and push him as a claimant for the iron throne? maybe he even claims a dragon somehow, and it’s revealed afterwards that he isn’t blood of the dragon after all, like nettles

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u/newtraptor — 6 hours ago

Searching for a Ned-centric fic

Hey, I'm looking for a specific fanfic that is focused on an AU where Ned Stark becomes the main focus during the timeline of Robert's Rebellion. I can't remember every beat of the plot, but the main ones I can remember are:

  1. Rhaegsr and Lyanna turn up out of nowhere, only for Ned to be incredibly pissed at both of them because their actions basically threw the entire realm into war

  2. Ned basically forces Rhaegar to concede to deposing Aerys, and forces him to make Ned his hand afterwards

  3. Robert is initially annoyed at Ned for capitulating so easily, but when he finds out Ned is going to be hand he starts laughing and basically asks Ned to make Rhaegar's life hell.

(And I think there's a part where Robert tells Lyanna how he doesn't care for her anymore due to her actions)

Now, there are a couple things I can't remember. I'm not sure if this was a Ned/Catelyn or a Ned/Ashara fic, or hell, if there was even a pairing at all. I also can't remember how long it is, although I definitely think it was more than 20k words (pretty sure it was 10+ chapters, though might be mistaken on that).

I'd appreciate any help in finding the fic if any of you know it! A part of me is worried it might be deleted though, if that's the case I'd totally understand, but fingers crossed that it isn't.

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u/Valor_2004 — 9 hours ago

Working on a fic with a heavy focus on cooking

Hello! As the titles says, im writing a fic with heavy focus on cooking. I would like to know what ingredients and food are found in westeros. If theres a list, what stuff doesnt exist that we take for granted, like i think there are no potatoes right?

Thanks in advance!

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u/cefli — 11 hours ago

What faction in the Dance do you think to be more legitimate?

Rhaenyra and an disinherited Daemon married, or Aegon (son of Baelon brother of Vizzy and Daemon T) declared heir by Viserys following "heir for a day"?

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u/3esin — 22 hours ago

What if Brandon had a Bastard Son

Let say Brandon got Barbry Ryswell Pregnant before getting forced to marry Catleyn,the rest of events happen similarly and the rebellion happens and when Eddard returns to north he discovers his brother had a son

What will ned do? Will he ask Robert to Legitmize him as Stark and Lord of Winterfell or would ned still take Winterfell and north even though he never wanted it

If ned Refused would the Ryswell refuse to join him in the war and would the Bolton side with them?

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u/Kurdoo-rojava — 19 hours ago

Why is the fandom so sure that Renly would have doomed the 7 Kingdoms?

The elephant in the room are the Others and the Long Night they bring. Unless it's a damp squib like in the show, that's an apocalyptic event that will likely reshape society and the political landscape considerably, but that's not on Renly. If anything, Renly was Westeros' best hope for the Long Night because his victory was all but guaranteed to be quick and decisive if not for the shadow baby, thus leaving Westeros united to face the Others, for what's that worth.

However, even ignoring that, Renly married Margaery Tyrell, thereby sealing a direct alliance with the Reach and several of its most important houses. That, paired with a politically smart marriage for the firstborn leaves very few people who can actually plot a "repeat" of Renly's succession. That powerblock would bring a lot of stability to the crown (assuming Renly doesn't repeat Robert's mistake and keeps Storms End as royal domain).

I've seen a lot of talk about dangerous precedent, but the matter of the fact is that the Seven Kingdoms were built on the principle of "might makes right" when Aegon forged the realm with dragon fire. Robert became King with his warhammer. And Renly rebelled despite a lack of a "younger brother" precedent, so it's not like Renly invented the concept. Maegor arguably pulled that stunt, but even he didn't invent the idea.

And there are a lot of historical precedent for states that had a succession hiccup which didn't matter in the long run. I feel like a lot of fans are grasping at condemnation because Renly dared to usurp Stannis' claim, and they like Stannis.

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u/Hellstrike — 1 day ago

(Tyrion/Malora) Could Tyrion open a Citadel Branch in Lannisport?

**Context:** Okay, so imagine a world where Leyton Hightower doesn't decline when Tywin offers Tyrion for a marriage. Tyrion ends up marrying Malora the Mad Maid around the same time that Jorah marries Lynesse.

After visiting Oldtown, Tyrion:

  1. Hears about the story of Peremore the Twisted

  2. Sees how economically and politically beneficial the Citadel is.

  3. Knows that Malora would greatly miss having access to it.

  4. Understands that his marriage means the Hightowers may support his claim to the Rock, even if Tywin doesn't.

If Tyrion petitioned Tywin to fund a Citadel satellite branch (citing how much it would elevate Lannisport's power and that it would be a gift for his new wife), do you think Tywin would agree?

Malora, could also petition her own father to help set it up, acquire maesters, and get the citadel's blessing. She both wants access to knowledge and wants a citadel branch of her own that she can influence to accept female scholars (eventually).

So, is it believable? Any logistical problems I should think about or political implications? This fic is still in its infancy, so I've only just begun drafting the plot.

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u/Eris590 — 17 hours ago

Could Maester Aemon become Hand of the King?

Let's say that Daeron didn't die, and became king after Maekar. He's still being tormented by his dreams, which makes him not very capable of ruling, and he knows it, which is why he would choose a Hand who he completely trusts and who wouldn't try to take power for himself and his family, so the choice is between his brothers or Bloodraven, but I think if Brynden really is scheming against the royal family, Daeron's dreams would clue him in enough not to trust him. That leaves Egg and Aemon. Aegon is probably already unpopular with the lords, and he has a family and presumably Summerhall to take care of. This, and the fact that Aemon has served him as maester on Dragonstone for more than a decade at this point, is likely to make hin Daeron's first choice.

Would Aemon accept it? He didn't go to King's Landing when his father was king so he couldn't displace the Grand Maester, but this situation might be different enough for him to make a differrent choice. Would the lords be bothered by a maester kinda going against his vows? (Technically the sacred vows are about not holding land or lordship and being celibate, which wouldn't be broken.) In canon, some lords wanted to make Aemon king, so they might not raise much of a stink, but of course the ambitious ones who want to become Hand themselves might protest.

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Rhaegar Small Council

Little bit of my story and plans for it in the future.

It picks up in the year 299. As Aegon has return to King's Landing after serving as Oberyn squire and having a small adventure in Essos. He returned several weeks before his 17th birthday. Rhaegar became King in 282 after his his success at the Tourney at Harrenhal. Rhaegar does meet Lyanna and they fell in love with each other but they don't runaway. Lyanna marries Robert Baratheon. They have four children Jon Baratheon the oldest, heir to Robert, and best friend of Aegon. Through mysterious source Robert finds out Jon is not his son and rebels against the crown. Tywin remarried hoping to have true heir but he ended having two other daughters. Tywin joins Robert Rebellion due to he fills the crown and Targaryens have mock him one too many times. First with Aerys saying be had slept with Tywin wife before she died, second when Aerys flat out laughed in his face when he offered Cersei to Rhaegar, third when Rhaegar removed him from the small council, and finally when Rhaegar denied his offer of one or both of his remaining daughters to Aegon. Rhaegar almost offered his brother Viserys to Cersei but stop when Jaime had confess of al the things he and did before he became a Kingsguard and also advice him on Cersei true personality. The Iron Islands rebel onces more but this time under the rule of Euron Greyjoy. Beyond the wall the Others/Whites have become active once more and a large host of wildlings have gathered under the King beyond the wall. Brandon Stark had died soon after humiliating Petyr Baelish from sickness.

I have started to write my first fanfiction. In my fic Rhaegar was successful in Harrenhal and able to take the crown with little to none bloodshed. Before I finish my fist chapter I wanted to ask for help on who would make Rhaegar Small Council and possible marriages as well. So far I have.

Hand of the King: Jon Connington

Master of Whisperers: Varys

Master of Coin: Mace Tyrell

Master of Laws: Myles Mooton

Master of Ships: Monford Velaryon

Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Gerold Hightower

Grand Maester: Pycelle

Kingsguard: No changes from Aerys's Kingsguard so far.

Ser Gerold Hightower

Ser Barristan Selmy

Ser Arthur Dayne

Ser Oswell Whent

Ser Jonothor Darry

Ser Jaime Lannister

Prince Lewyn Martell

Marriages:

Aegon Targaryen & Daenerys Targaryen &

Rhaenys Targaryen & Willas Tyrell

Robb Stark & Wylla Manderly

Stannis Baratheon & Malora Hightower

Renly Baratheon & Loras Tyrell & Margaery Tyrell

Viserys Targaryen & Ysilla Royce

Cersei Lannister & Edmure Tully

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u/HourSupermarket8696 — 1 day ago

What if Rhaenys had been shown as dark-haired in the show?

I‘m thinking about how the show would have progressed if Rhaenys had been dark-haired in HotD, like she was originally in Asoiaf?

I think the cinematic decision to make her pale-haired like the rest of the Targs was to make it even more clear how much Jace and Luke didn’t look like the “usual Targaryens”.

What would have been different in the show?

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u/yelenalim — 1 day ago
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A "Good son/daughter of Tywin" Stories?

I had this little idea I might use in the future about a good man or woman born of Tywin, maybe a middle daughter born a year before Tyrion, a non deformed twin brother of Tyrion, anything like that, and that extra child rejecting the cruel ways of Tywin.

Is there some good stories like that?

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u/MateusCristian — 1 day ago

What happens if Daemon kills the singer who seduced Gael?

The important add-on that the 70-character title limit couldn’t include, is that this happens before he has fully seduced her.

Say Daemon is walking around the Red Keep in 99 AC, and there he sees a travelling singer attempting to seduce his aunt. Furious, he draws his sword and beheads the singer.

Would there be any outrage in Westeros, and, in particular, with the faith? After all, the man was a guest beneath their roof when Daemon slew him for a suspected future crime. Or would everyone say, yeah, sure, the guy had it coming?

Would it be reasonable for Jaehaerys to have to exile Daemon to Essos for a few years because the Faith was up in arms about it, and Jaehaerys figured they’d calm down if Daemon left the city?

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u/MaesterHannibal — 1 day ago

Advice on route to take, Aeyrs succeeds in the Wildfire Plot

Rhaegar lost the trident, as per canon. When Tywin moves to sack Kings Landing, Jaimie is in the process of killing Aerys and hunting down the Alchemists. He is unsuccessful in killing them all, some escape and distribute the orders. The Order of Alchemists is torn, the loyalists wanting to carry out the orders, others wanting to scrap them. They split, some attempting to set the wildfire off, some trying to stop them, some fleeing, etc.

The first cache to go off is in the Dragonpit, the sane alchemists prioritizing the Red Keep, the Sept of Baelor, and other population dense areas. At first there is fear and confusion, with fire spreading from the Dragonpit, however, when the second cache goes off, panic sets in. Riots, fleeing crowds, etc. No longer the scariest thing, Tywin's forces, still pouring in face crowds in the 10s of thousands charging towards them, trying to escape. He quickly retreats, but most of the forces already through the gate are trampled by the unstoppable crowds. Tywin loses 5 of his 12,000.

50,000 died from the initial explosions, with the Dragonpit gone, and around 1/4 of the city around it destroyed. A few other caches in different places went off, but the sane alchemists managed to put them out.

30,000 died from spreading fire 

20,000 died to the spreading fumes 

30,000 died in the riots to escape 

50,000 escaped the city in the first weak 

80,000 more escaped in the first month 

240,000 remained in Kings Landing when it was finally put to order by Eddard Stark

Once the rebels arrived and put the city to order, they realised that Elia, Aegon, Rhaenys and Jaimie were gone. Jaimie had successfully rescued them and made it out and to Dragonstone, the Mountain and his men had been delayed and never made it to the keep. From there, the whole Royal family moved with the Royal Fleet to Dorne. The delay also was long enough for Stannis to be forced to surrender Storm's End or Renly would have died.

On the first day of explosions, a red streak appeared in the sky, originally it was not known what it meant. Soon everyone realised, it heralded the return of magic.

I am stuck on what happens from here. Many paths: does Mace turn coat? Jon is born, Lyanna dies, what do the Kingsguard do? Does Dorne submit to Baratheon rule in exchange for peace? Do Dorne and the rest of the Realm enter a cold war, with Dorne not submitting or declaring independence, and Robert's allies uncertain of invasion? Or does war begin, and Dorne successfully retain their independence?

The main aim of the story is a much higher fantasy, more powerful and more common magic (if still erratic and hard to control), interfering gods (though not too extreme), etc. I am uncertain when/if dragons return.

Additionally, i have a completely different story in which the premise is dragons returning at Summerhall for Aegon the Unlikely, but i am leaning towards this. Thoughts and discussion is welcome.

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u/Comfortable_Set_4066 — 2 days ago
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Cregan Stark SI Story

Title: The Passenger

Author: LordReader (myself)

Rating: General

Language: English

Length: 73k completed (out of ~80k)

Status: Ongoing (will be completed in next couple of weeks. The climax is over.)

Link: Ao3 | Spacebattles

Summary: The overall story is a self-insert into Cregan Stark, and the difficulties he faces when he tries to implement the uplift ideas. Including his usurping uncle from the canon.

But the chapter I linked can be read as a standalone short-story. It's a smallfolk pov during Cregan's rule. I believe this was the best chapter I ever wrote. So you can directly read it if you want a taste of my writing before committing to read the whole thing.

Chapter 25 links: Ao3 | Spacebattles

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u/Slow_Yesterday7698 — 1 day ago

What if Shireen was born a male?

A minor change but one I was curious about since it would change how Stannis and his campaign is viewed by the lords of Westeros if his heir was male instead of female.

What changes if Shireen is born as Steffon Baratheon, Stannis’s son and heir?

Obviously Stannis would take a more active role in Steffon’s upbringing. How does that change his character?

Is Robert jealous somewhat Stannis has a son who looks like an actual Baratheon?

How does the build up to War of the Five Kings go with Stannis having a son? Do the Stormlords initially flock to Renly or would they see Stannis’s line as more secure and think him the better, legal choice? Would Renly even rebel knowing his older brother might be looked at more favorably than him?

And finally, with Renly likely dying the same, does Mace Tyrell offer Margaery as a bride to young Steffon (paralleling canon with the Margaery and Tommen marriage), instead of going for Joffrey?

If that doesn’t work, what other pairings are presented? Would Robb offer Sansa or Arya for Steffon in exchange for support of the North/Riverlands?

Any other significant changes?

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u/Hacksaw_Doublez — 1 day ago

If Rhaenys won the throne, would they accept the Strong boys?

Basically the title. With Rhaenys and Viserys being the top rival claimants, a Rhaenyra/Laenor match makes sense no matter which way the Council goes. in the event that Rhaenys’ line wins, Laenor would be her heir. He’s wed to Rhaenyra but is still gay and possible infertile.

If their marriage played out similar, how do you think Corlys and Rhaenys would’ve reacted? Would they have put a stop to her and Harwin procreating sooner? Would they try her for treason and disown the sons? Would they simply engage kids to Laena‘s and call it a day? Or something else maybe.

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u/MajesticFan4 — 3 days ago

Jon/Margaery(?) fic set in Dragonstone

I've recently gotten back into Jon/Margaery fics and after reading Dragonstone by Danivat and Alone in the World by Narea I was reminded of another Jon on Dragonstone fic.

Jon is made the Lord of Dragonstone and I'm like 90% certain he gets with Margaery. I remember he had issues with his vassals not accepting him, there's on in particular that gives him problems, the Celtigars I believe. There's a scene where Jon has them all gathered in a throne(?) room and he orders them to kneel and ends up killing (?) the head of the family.

Margaery also has troubles with her ladies-in-waiting. They don't respect her and cause a number of issues when it comes to her running the household.

I also remember they have kids and the babes have Targaryen features, which confirms for Jon that Ashara Dayne was his mother. Yet, all the other lords look at the child and start connecting dots. They start making plans to get Jon on the throne. Could be mixing this part up with others, but I believe Jon and Margaery have multiple kids.

Fairly certain I read this on AO3, so any help in tracking this down would be appreciated!

Edit: I remembered some more details. This fic also had Jon choosing a new name and the issue with the Celtigar’s was the castellan was a Celtigar and they stole money (?) I remember a scene where the tax collector’s were harassing the small folk and Jon confronted them.

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u/russianoatmeal — 2 days ago

What if Jace, Luke, and Joffrey all had Silver Hair and Purple Eyes?

They’d be Harwin’s (or Laenor’s if you head-canon that for the book) but would have the usual Valyrian Silver Hair and Purple Eyes. This would bring a lot of changes in my view. Would the Bastard allegations still be a thing? Furthermore, does Harwin go back to Harrenhal in this universe? Maybe he’d live. What do you think?

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u/Hotel-Dependent — 3 days ago

What would be the ASOIAF equivalent of a Trojan Horse?

Watching the Odyssey made me think? Would it be a huge wooden statue of the Mother that could compel people to drag something into their gates? Or something else?

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u/BigLowGetToKnow_ — 2 days ago