Pacifica Hybrid vs Sienna TCO 15 years

Pacifica Hybrid vs Sienna TCO 15 years

I am enjoying my Pacifica PHEV and how much money I save. I was curious how much the total cost would be for the famous and popular Sienna vs the Pacifica PHEV. I bought my 2023 Pacifica PHEV for $20k plus tax with the EV incentive with 50k miles. Equivalent 2023 Sienna with 50k miles would be around $36k plus tax.

I manage to drive 97% on EV only. For the sake of the analysis, I rounded down to 95%. I'm assuming $0.08 super off peak charging, but it varies from state to state. I think most states will be between 5 to 12 cents. I'm assuming $4.50 gas prices. It's actually $6 at the pump where I am, so again I'm giving the Sienna the benefit of the doubt. And I'm assuming 15k miles driven per year. The gas and electric rates will depend on your state, so I'm just going with a ballpark national average.

I haven't included maintenance and repairs, because it gets complicated. Sienna requires more frequent oils changes. My PHEV only needs to change oil once a year because of all the EV driving. But Sienna is a lot more reliable and will save on frequent repairs. Although I haven't actually spent a penny repairing my Pacifica yet, I'm just assuming.

Here it is:

Efficiency & Annual Energy Breakdown

The underlying fuel economies dictate the daily operational costs for both minivans:

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Toyota Sienna Hybrid:

  • Uses a traditional hybrid setup.
  • Achieves 36 MPG combined.
  • Requires 416.67 gallons of gas annually.
  • Total annual cost: $1,875.00.

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Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid:

  • Uses a plug-in hybrid (PHEV) setup.
  • Electric consumption: 41 kWh per 100 miles.
  • Gas consumption: 30 MPG combined in hybrid mode.
  • EV portion (14,250 miles): 5,842.5 kWh ($467.40).
  • Gas portion (750 miles): 25 gallons ($112.50).
  • Total annual cost: $579.90
Cost Component Toyota Sienna Hybrid Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Cost Difference (Savings)
Initial Price $36,000.00 $20,000.00 $16,000.00 (Pacifica)
Annual Energy Cost $1,875.00 $579.90 $1,295.10 / year (Pacifica)
5-Year Total Cost $45,375.00 $22,899.50 $22,475.50 (Pacifica)
10-Year Total Cost $54,750.00 $25,799.00 $28,951.00 (Pacifica)
15-Year Total Cost $64,125.00 $28,698.50 $35,426.50 (Pacifica)
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u/zhuangcorp — 6 days ago

Why did they remove the mi/kwh since last charge feature in the app?

I used to love this feature to check how my efficiency was without having to re-set my trip gauge ever time.

Why did they remove this in the app?

My app must have updated because it went to this new white UI, but its missing the old mi/kwh feature.

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u/zhuangcorp — 13 days ago

Resolved FORM today with just 0.5 gallons of gas

Last time my Fuel Refresh mode came on, I resolved it with 1 gallon of gas. This is a good way of saving on gas costs if you are able to charge a lot of do almost all electric driving. After 5 weeks and a couple days, my FORM came on again today. It makes sense that the interval is shorter because 1 gallon is very little gas.

So I immediately went to the gas station and added 0.5 gallons and resolved FORM again. So now I can really confirm, that almost any amount of gas will resolve FORM, but the car just sets a shorter interval period. My guess is that FORM will come in a little under 5 weeks next time. Maybe about the 4 week mark.

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u/zhuangcorp — 15 days ago

Why isn't Pacifica in Google Maps?

In your Google Maps account, you're supposed to select your car in your profile. I can't seem to find the Pacifica or any Chrysler car.

Why isn't Chrysler in Gmaps?

What would be the closest alternative to estimate power consumption?

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago

I wish Equinox had this feature

I really wish the Equinox had this feature. Like cmon, it's so easy to do. Even without the paddle shifters, why not just have an option in the menu?

Why doesn't GM just do a software update and add this? Just ask Claude to do it for you

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago
▲ 17 r/JRPG

Just finished Arc Rise Fantasia, it's quite a fun time

Just finished Arc Rise Fantasia, and it's honestly really a quite fun game. It is a very traditional JRPG experience with many JRPG archetypes, but that's a good thing.

The combat is really fun traditional jrpg turn-based combat with attack, magic, special techniques. There are a lot of potentials for combos and such, and it can get really complicated if you are up for it. Luckily you can play more standard as well, it's up to you. Combat animations are really high quality, and the overall production value feels nice.

The characters are what you expect from a solid jrpg. Diverse set of beautifully drawn characters with the typical archetypes. You got your shy beautiful healer girl, your spunky young kid, the cool pirate guy, the older warrior guy, the smoking hot older girl, etc. All of them are useful in combat and have unique abilities, and you get lots of opportunities to try all of them. All of them are drawn with bright beautiful colors, diverse clothing and styles. They all have their unique weapons too, which is great. There's the gun user, the sword user, the knuckle user, the staff, etc.

Most reviews focus on how "bad" the voice acting is. I am going to disagree. If you try to view the VA from a cinematic perspective, yes it is not like that. It's not meant to be like watching a movie. It's more like a visual novel. If you view it this way, I didn't mind it at all, and on the contrary I appreciated hearing all the voices cover the majority of scenes in the game.

You also have a large world map with your standard mix of towns and quest locations. The pacing is quite good because you never get stuck not knowing where to go or what to do. You can always press pause and the game will tell you what to do to advance the storyline.

The story had hits and misses. Certain story arcs are frustrating and unsatisfying. But broadly speaking, it is what you expect from JRPG: band of strangers become friends and save the world. The story and lore is very complex and it eventually becomes hard to follow. But the narrative keeps its tension and drama throughout the game: someone is betrayed, there's an attack, there's some crisis, someone is sick, etc.

One thing I didn't like was the weapon progression. Unusually, every weapon in the game does the same damage. There's no "better weapon". Rather, each weapon has a different unique ability like auto regen. You have to unlock abilities and customize them. If you like the depth and complexity, you can have hours of fun mixing and matching.

Finally, the boss battles in this game are epic and EXTREMELY punishing. The bosses all are really well designed. They have unique abilities, tons of hp, and do a lot of damage. If you are even slightly under leveled, they can wipe you out in 1 or 2 turns. In fact, the game kinda feels like Souls-like game. Epic boss battles separated by periods of regular enemies. It feels very rewarding to take down the bosses and there are so many of them. I think many people would want to use exp-multiplier cheats to speed up the grinding, and I don't blame them at all.

Altogether, go and play this game! It's really quite fun. It kinda reminds me of Skies of Arcadia mixed with Tales of game.

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago
▲ 3 r/JRPG

What do you think about Arc Rise Fantasia?

I just started ARF and I'm very early. From what I can see, it is a fairly traditional jrpg with traditional anime artworks. Those both could be good things, but could be bland as well.

I've read some reviews, and it seems like the reviews overemphasize the voice acting. Bad voice acting really doesn't bother me that much.

Apart from voice acting, how do you feel about this game for its overall gameplay, style, storytelling, characters? Could it possibly be a hidden gem?

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago
▲ 35 r/JRPG

Favorite emotional ending theme song?

Trying again without spoilers:

I have 2 favorite emotional ending theme songs. First is FF12 - Kiss Me Goodbye. The melody is so moving, the lyrics and theme are so perfect. It captures the bittersweet feeling of saying goodbye to all your friends that you made along the way of your journey. Now that you've met each other you don't want to part ways. I read a comment online from a Japanese netizen who summed it up: "This song could only be written by Angela Aki, someone who is fluent in English, but has a Japanese heart". Angela Aki said when she heard the melody, her first image was that of saying goodbye to loved one while starting a new journey.

My other favorite ending is FF13 - My Hands. Now admittedly, this one is much less congruent. In fact, it was more of an accident. The producers were trying to translate the actual intended song from Japanese to English, but found they couldn't translate it properly. So they just went out to license a song from Leona Lewis. The actual song is about struggling to move on from a romantic breakup. But somehow, the song reflects the feeling of the game quite accurately. When she sings "My hands they only agree to hold your hands and they don't want to be without your hands", we feel both a little of what the party is feeling and also we feel the player's sadness at game's end of leaving behind the game and characters they have grown to love.

What are your favorite JRPG ending theme songs and why?

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago
▲ 127 r/JRPG

What are the A-tier JRPG's outside the mainstream hits?

Excluding the mainstream hits such as Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Persona, Xenoblade, what are the A-tier JRPG games?

Some of the best I've played are Skies of Arcadia, Grandia, Shadow Hearts Covenant, The Last Story, Panzer Dragoon Saga, etc.

Below that tier i've played a lot of Wild Arms, Suikoden, Star Ocean, Tales, Sakura Wars, etc.

I have some more games that are on my to play list such as Trails in the Sky, Lost Odyssey, etc. I'm not sure if these games would be A-tier. What are the best A-tier games outside those big mainstream hits?

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago

I fixed Fuel Refresh mode with just 1gallon gas

My car went into FORM again today after 8.5 weeks. I was wondering what the absolute minimum amount of gas is required to fix FORM, so I put just 1gallon of gas (the meter literally say 1.000) into the tank and it fixed it.

So the whole talk about 4 gallons is completely untrue.

Maybe next time I will try 0.5 gallons. But for now, I can confirm that even 1 gallon fixes FORM.

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago

Feel good collab medley with all star artists

I grew up in the 90s. I think somewhere around 2000's, I remember listening to this collaboration of artists singing this feel good "lets all love the world" type pop song. It wasn't necessarily a bad song, but the music video was pretty cheesy. Think of like a cheap version of "we are the world" song.

I have a vague memory that possibly Nsync, Britney Spears, or Christina Aguilera MIGHT have been in it. And I think I remember thinking to myself "why aren't the Backstreet boys in it?". So there were some big names, and then there were a bunch of lesser artists I'd never heard of. I remember them doing cheesy gestures and stuff, and just not being overly cool.

I've been searching, but can't remember what it was. Any ideas?

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago

Does your car made a loud creaking noise on slow wide turns?

My 2023 Pachy makes a loud creaking noise on slow wide turns. Is this a common issue in Pachy?

Does anybody else have this issue? Is it a serious concern? Has anybody fixed this issue before?

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I was thinking to spray some WD-40 Silicone onto the control arm bearing. But I can't find where it is. Can somebody point it out to me?

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago

Where do you check your blind spot in EQEV?

One thing I have noticed is that it is a bit difficult to see your blind spot in the EQEV.

If you turn and look left out the front window without leaning forward, you can't actually see the blind spot.

If you try to look through the back left window, the angle is a bit odd so you can only see a very narrow view. And the side B-pillar is quite thick and wide.

How do you guys handle checking your blind spot?

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago

Does anybody else have squeaky brakes?

When I push my brakes, they make a squeaky noise. Sometimes it seams like the noise is coming from the brake pad itself. More often the noise is coming from the brake pedal.

Anybody else have this?

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago
▲ 0 r/Boxing

Does Lomachenko regret pulling out of the undisputed unification fight with Kambosos?

Lomachenko makes so many decisions that I don't understand. He fought Salido who didn't make weight, and allowed dozens of low-blows without hitting back. He fought Teofimo with a bad shoulder that needed surgery and didn't throw punches for half the fight.

But I think the worst boxing decision he made was withdrawing from the Kambosos fight that would've made him unified undisputed. That was his goal all along.

What was the point of joining the territorial defense force? His own country wanted him to go and box to boost morale for the soldiers. Loma would've helped his country a lot more that way. Usyk did just that and look how his career turned out. And he could've just won the Kambosos fight and then come back and join the forces a couple months later. He could've taken the fight and donated the winnings to the defense force, which would've been more helpful.

Furthermore, what was the point of joining the forces and then be labeled as Pro-Russian? I'm genuinely confused by this last point. If he really is pro-Russian, why join the forces and waste your career? If he is Pro-Ukranian, why give the appearance of being a Vatnik?

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u/zhuangcorp — 2 months ago