r/4xe

A little bit of a long post highlighting first impressions of my new to me 2022 Grand Cherokee 4xe Summit. Some of my comments are related to the 4xe powertrain in general, some are related to the Grand Cherokee in general, and some are specifically towards the Summit trim and its offerings.

I traded my 2021 Mustang Mach-E for this one owner, no accidents, 57k on the clock, bumper-to-bumper warrantied until 97k miles, Grand Cherokee because I wanted something that was more suitable and comfortable for frequent road trips. However, I wanted a PHEV due to the fact that my commute one-way is 2 miles, and I already have a level 2 charger at home. This is my second Jeep, first being a 2017 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara which I loved but ultimately dumped it at the end of the lease because of how uneconomical it was.

Performance and Driving

• It hauls ass. The straight-line performance reminds me of an inline-six BMW X5. Doesn't sound nearly as good as the X5, but it goes like a bastard considering its weight and size.
• The handoff between gas and electric can be pretty jumpy. You have to learn how adapt the way you hit the gas pedal in order to smooth it out. And even then, it's still not perfect.
• Maneuvering in tight parking garages is rough. The brakes are incredibly touchy, and the electric motors don't "crawl" smoothly when you creep off the brake pedal.
• Adaptive cruise control is alright. The shortest setting brakes way too late/harshly, and the second shortest setting stays too far back. It behaves exactly like my mom's 12-year-old 2014 Grand Cherokee Summit. Funny how they haven't improved that.

Interior, Tech, and Audio

• The seats are beyond comfortable and highly adjustable. Between the power-adjustable thigh extenders, side bolsters, and manually-adjustable 4-way headrests, they're great. However, pushing $80k new, the headrests should be power-adjustable like its X5 xDrive50e or GLE450e competitors. Still, they're great seats and the lacking power headrests is absolutely a first-world problem and I see that.
• The Uconnect 5 system is pretty responsive, and I haven't dealt with any freezing or random reboots yet. The 19-speaker McIntosh sound system is really good. Though, it's not a massive leap over the old WK2 Summit's Harman/Kardon Logic7 system. Bass and mids are good, highs are just okay.
• Cargo area is beyond usable. The air suspension lowering to entry/exit mode makes it even easier to load and unload from the cargo area.

The Annoying Shit

• The headlights are good at best. It's ridiculous that a $74k MSRP "luxury trim" SUV doesn't have auto-leveling/steering-responsive projector headlamps when the 2014 Summit did. Also, having to physically push the stalk back to activate auto high-beams is stupid. The 2014 Summit requires the same thing. Every other car I've owned just respected the "Auto High Beams: Enabled" setting in the infotainment system.
• In tight spaces, there's a brutal 3-4 second delay between the front sensor ParkSense alert and the 360 cameras popping up. My Mach-E and previous BMW 330i did it instantly. Seeing the front camera pop up instantly allows me to get super close to an object, before backing up and finishing my maneuver. Now, I just hit the camera favorite button on the Uconnect screen before I know the ParkSense will go off.
• The Jeep app fucking sucks. End of story.
• A locking gas flap, but not a locking EV charging flap is odd to me. Cost cutting?
• Piano black trim is fucking stupid no matter what car its in. I'm incredibly careful, yet I've already noticeably scratched the gloss black around the shifter three times in a week. It's inexplicably plastered on every high-touch surface: the doors, steering wheel buttons, and sunroof controls. WTF.

My verdict is it's a phenomenal vehicle that legitimately gives the PHEV SUV offerings of traditional "luxury" brands a run for their money. Yet, it still drives like a Grand Cherokee which is why I bought it. Jeep should have made the 4xe powertrain smoother and more seamless to drive, especially for $74k on a Summit (not even a Summit Reserve, mind you.) However, the ride and build quality are great. I plan on keeping it long-term, or at least until the warranty expires, and look forward to many great road trips in it.

I heard on a YouTube channel last month, some users were saying their Jeeps wouldn’t stay in electric mode when it’s really hot outside post 68C. The channel host said, if my memory is right, the complaints were coming from typically warmer places that were just getting out of late spring like Arizona. The alleged problematic temps reported were above 80 degrees.

It’s been above 90 degrees (F) for days here in the Midwest but I haven’t had any issues (so far, lol) on electric mode. Just curious if anyone else in has heard or experienced issues under these circumstances. Thanks.

Hey everyone, really need some advice here. While shopping for evs, hybrids, SUV's, etc., I stumbled across a used, CPO 2023 Wrangler 4xe Rubicon. Truthfully, my knowledge on jeeps are super low, but I live in an island in Canada that gets insanely snow winters, but still nice fairly warm summers.

Does anyone have experience with this type of jeep? It comes with 1.5 years of powertrain remaining, and like 5 years of battery.

I've heard Jeeps drive super harsh, and I don't plan on off roading. However we have 2 dogs, so the thought on driving around the town with the windows down is enticing, but again a jeep has never once crossed my mind until now, and through my research they seem amazing, though it seems SO many people hate on them.

Just looking for overall feedback!

Here are details:

2023 Wrangler 4xe Rubicon (81,000 KM, 38.5k, ALL PRICES IN CAD)
Options:

Leather-faced seats w/Rubicon logo & utility grid ($1695)

Cold Weather Group: Heated steering wheel Front heated seats Remote start system Trailer Tow & HD ($1,095)

Dual Top Group ($2695), and $1000 in various other options

Thank you!

Hey folks, so I recently posted about the 4xe, and EVERYONE told me to avoid, so im pivoting now.

I have a 20KM each way commute to work, all highway, so about 40KM total. I currently drive a BMW 2 series (lol), but I seem to change cars a LOT and really want something different.

I don't really off road, but woudl be open to getting into it. I'm mainly looking into a Wrangler because we have 2 dogs, just moved to a part of the province (im in canada) that has more beaches/trails, etc. And I think the idea of the roof being open with our dogs, paired with great snow performance (live in a heavy winter climate) might be the package that finally helps me not want to change cars every year lol.

So I'm just wondering would a Wrangler be stupid in my case, or fine? If so, which model?

Thanks!

Delete if this isn’t allowed

But I have a question for 4xe owners.

I work as a technician at a CDJR dealer in Florida. I was just wondering if the people who do bring their Jeeps into a dealer would prefer to have a direct contact with the technician who specializes on working on the hybrid/EV vehicles?
I don’t claim to be perfect, but I feel like having a direct contact with owners helps solve issues that a service advisor or manager can’t answer or help with since most of the time they don’t know the product or don’t care really.
I also feel like having a direct relationship with the technician builds trust and can help with a better repair or service experience. It would also help to be able to answer questions without having to take time out of your day to go to the dealer or call someone there who can’t help, won’t help or just doesn’t know how to answer your questions without having to tell you to come in.
I like the 4xe product. I don’t own one personally, but I know no car is without faults.
Also another question, I’ve been leaving ducks in wranglers mostly with a little message to the owner. Do you guys think that’s a good thing that would help build a solid relationship with the dealer or tech? I am doing that out of my own pocket and the dealer I work at did not tell me to do that, it’s just something I thought of to see if it’ll help with customer satisfaction and experience.
So let me hear your opinions. And if you’d rather not comment, you can dm as well.

Thank you

I’ve seen a local dealer offer several around 13k miles for $27k.

That’s a screaming deal to me.

I’ve been following the 4xe debacle the past few years, but I’m just not too concerned about the battery fire issues.

I’m more concerned about sudden loss of power and being stranded since I plan on actually using it in deep wilderness.

I am aware there is a recall for sand in engine, but considering a 2025 will have 4 more years of powertrain warranty, I don’t feel too worried.
What do you think?

EDIT: I actually don’t care at all about the PHEV part. I don’t even have a place to charge it. But I’ve been looking at a Wrangler to upgrade from my current 4x4 and the 4xe prices are just way better than anything else.

EDIT 2: I can get a 4xe Rubicon from 2021 for about the same price. I would avoid the engine recall but also lose the factory warranty, so it doesn’t seem like a win.

Just wondering if anyone is using the rough country 3.5” lift? If so how do you like it? How does it drive on long drives? As a daily driver? Off road? And handling?

Can i also see pics if you have any of before and after.

Thanks for your time!!!

My phone is able to immediately connect to UConnect, but it won’t connect to any apple car play with wired connection or bluetooth connection. I’ve checked to make sure it’s enabled on my jeep settings. It just doesn’t even give me the option to “allow carplay” anymore. any suggestions? TIA!

Hi guys, I am highly considering getting a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon X4E (new).

I tried months ago a diesel version to have an idea of how it feels to drive one and well I definitely falled in love.

I live in a mountain area with difficult street, high snow in winter and definitely need an offroad vehicle such as that one.

My daily use would be 30km per day during the week (going down the mountain and up after work day) I assume I can do it using the electric stuff only, load at night and well in case I take it for a long journey then I will switch to the hybrid mode no problem.

So all in all, seems to be the perfect choice BUT...

In 2026, with all the return of experience do you think it's good or not to buy it?

I talk about the burning batteries issues, and other problems. Are they fix? Is Jeep about to bankrupt?

It's a sincere question... I find no "up to date" information about these models anywhere...

Some people really happy some not at all.

Please share your thought I feel really confused. (Of course salesman say its all good but well they are salesman)

Also I could read production is stopped for Europa? Is that real?

Wondering if anyone else has had this happen? Mine kept killing the 12v, after the second time in a month I needed to jump it with no reasonable explanation, they looked deeper and found corrosion somewhere in the fuse box. Took it in Wednesday, still waiting for parts.

I do live in Florida, but do rain storms really explain it?

Well - finally happened to me. Very similar to this thread.

Started up my Jeep - got the Service Charging System error but the gas engine was running. Tried to drive it, and just had no acceleration when starting from a stop. At one point I was on a slight hill and had the pedal to the floor and it was bucking. Made it somewhere to try replacing the 12V battery since it's a few years old - didn't help. There is no 24/7 Jeep Customer Service line apparently, had to have it towed and rent a car to get back to my home state. So now my Jeep is 200 miles away and I'm at a loss.

Completely frustrated with this car, all the recalls, etc.

Had it for 3 years and it just passed 20,000 miles. The dealership is offering to let us buy it off them for $24,000 and I think I can negotiate more. I haven’t owned a car in a long time, is this smart?

Not the “you’re going to burst in flames” recall. A firmware update that they could have done over satellite. Oil change too. I asked the service guy why there were no hybrids on the lot. He made a face and said they won’t make them anymore, “too many problems,” knowing full well that is what I have. The only problem I’ve had is getting the software updated. He would not elaborate. So what do I need to watch out for?

So, I am looking to purchase a new car and I've always wanted a Jeep. I have always been drawn towards the wranglers and love the 4xe. I have read and researched all the problems reported with the 4xe's, so of course I am assuming the risk if I were to purchase one.

There is a 2023 4xe for sale ($29,190) at a dealership near me with 40k miles; so about 13k miles/yr. For a wrangler 4xe, does the vehicle still have life in it? Is this a good deal? If not, what would be a more reasonable price? The Kelley Bluebook says its a fair deal, but I would like to know if anyone thinks there is wiggle room for negotiation. I would love for my out the door price to be less than 30k total. Also, has anyone had any good, or bad, experiences after purchasing a used 4xe?

I plan to use the vehicle for local driving (work, grocery store, friends' house, date nights etc). I live in/near a major city as well and spend quite some time there as well, but commuting by vehicle would be few, far, and in between.

I am new to Jeep and just want some non-biased and factual insight.

My 2024 4XE has been at the dealership for months due to multiple recalls.

I finally got Stellantis to provide me a rental.

As we all know Wranglers are crazy expensive to carry on our car insurance.

Hasn’t anyone gone through the process with DMV etc , to drop the insurance if your vehicle has been unable to drive for months?

Jeep was in storage for last few months due to weather and being over my mileage limit.

Pulled it out of storage and immediately had CEL come on. From storage drove it directly to get an oil change, drove short distance home and parked it. Vehicle was spotless, clean, and had no concerns about returning it worry free so I didn’t renew my state inspection which ends this month.

My local Jeep service is telling me they cannot even see the vehicle until July 17th, conveniently my lease maturity date, and expect to leave it with them for 3+ days for diagnostic and repairs.

Apparently you cannot drive a vehicle without a state inspection to the lot, they will not accept the return under the pretense you drove “illegally” to return the vehicle. Vehicle would need to be transported to the dealer via tow.

How would you go about returning this vehicle? I don’t not want to extend my lease and pay for another month or potentially longer, this vehicle has already been a burden and a huge pile of shit with constant issues since I got it. Not to mention the 3 unserviceable recalls, and it being a fire hazard.

Will Jeep take the vehicle back with a CEL? I have a code scanner and all codes point to drivetrain issues and potentially timing issues. I’m assuming this will be warranty work, so I would assume they fix it on their own dime…

Help.