r/CircumcisionGrief

Uncircumcised roommate says I’m missing most of the sensation. How true is that?

Hey, I’m hoping someone here can help me out or answer this. I’m 22 and live in the US. I was circumcised as a baby and honestly never really thought about it before. I don’t even know what type of circumcision I had? I don’t have a frenulum anymore either, or at least I don’t think I do, I’m not really sure.

I’m in college and one night in the dorms, after we’d had a few drinks, this topic randomly came up. One of my roommates isn’t circumcised. I’d never really questioned being circumcised before cuz growing up that was basically all I knew. Even in school locker rooms/showers pretty much everyone I saw was circumcised too.

He told us that cuz we’re circumcised we don’t feel everything the way we’re supposed to, and that sex and jerking off would normally feel way crazier and more intense, but we basically lost all that.

That shit’s been messing with my head and idk how to deal with it. I keep thinking about it now, especially cuz there’ve been a few times during sex where I couldn’t finish, and now idk if it was cuz of that or if it was just bc i was nervouse or stuff like that.

Is the difference really as extreme as he’s making it sound?

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u/Objective_Term3017 — 11 days ago

Has circumcision made anyone else misogynistic?

I've found myself becoming more and more misogynistic as time goes on. Every time I see a mother talking about "her" choice to circumcise her son, every time I see a woman saying we need to circumcise because it protects women, every time I see a woman saying intact penises are ugly, every time I see a woman saying she would only sleep with a circumcised man, I grow to hate women more and more. My mother was the person who chose my circumcision and she has admitted it was entirely cosmetic. I'm gay so I don't even have to pretend that women are worthy of respect like straight men do.

I don't like that I've become this hateful person, all it would have taken for me not to go down this rabbit hole of hatred would be for my mother to have loved me enough to leave me intact. Instead I was mutilated for the benefit of women in a society that teaches men to be grateful to be mutilated for the sake of women, while lying to us that men are the privileged sex, despite women having complete control over whether or not we get to keep our full genitals.

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u/Vegetable_Warthog_49 — 11 days ago
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Sex while being cut

So I’ve noticed that during sex I just can’t get any stimulation from my dick he doesn’t matter what happens to it doesn’t matter if attempt to and there’s someone else that is zero pleasure, I can only get pleasure from being a bottom, which is a very depressing reason to be a bottom

It’s not even a preference I just straighten up. Can’t get any pleasure unless I’m being fucked I genuinely hate that the reason why that is is not because it just feels better, but because my body was altered against my will at birth and this is one of the consequences of it. It also just takes me way too long to finish I could probably last like an hour because there’s just no whatsoever it’s another thing I hate.

This shit really rules my life like I can’t even own my own sexuality and have a variety of ways I feel pleasure it’s horrific

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u/Exasperated-Victim90 — 9 days ago
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"Take it up with your parents"

This is a statement I never fail to run into in the wild. It is the cutters' final, last resort. The "break glass in case of factual arguments" retort. When debating the cutters, you will find the goal posts have been mounted on 17" pneumatic tyres, being pulled by cheetahs. Cutters are extremely predictable people because they are extremely simple people. These are not intellectual titans we are dealing with.

First they will claim it's "cleaner" or somehow more aesthetic or desirable to be cut. When you point out the idiotic logic of this reasoning (and the lack of consent), then it moves to the "medical" defense. Since they know they can't defend it ethically for cosmetic reasons, it becomes a "medical necessity". Preventing the astronomically unlikely cancer risk 70 years into the baby's future suddenly has all the urgency of a crash cart in the ER. When you counter this with facts and studies demonstrating the abysmal cost/benefit analysis, when you counter with statistics and studies and diagrams showing the countless myriad benefits and anatomical necessity of these structures, then they move into their final refuge. The last stand.

Some variation of "I don't care, take it up with your parents".

This is their final riposte. They know their arguments have run dry; the quiver is bare. They cannot refute any logical or emotional reason to spare defenseless boys this atrocity, so they fall back on the one thing they have left. Apathy, and a lack of liability.

"Oh, but the Tribunal mustn't blame me. I merely rounded up those genocide victims and loaded them up on to the trucks. Where they went from there wasn't my fault. I didn't pull the trigger."

They rely on this facile argument to absolve themselves of any responsibility. By playing this card, they no longer need to defend their position. They no longer need to justify circumcision. You see, it was all your parent's fault. Your 2 parents, out of 8 billion humans, came up with this all on their own. Not society, not religion, not the medical industrial complex, not capitalism, not profits, not cruelty or malice or ignorance or cultural pressure. Certainly not psychopath fetishists. Just your parents. No one else's. Not some poor defenceless newborn sitting in a maternity ward, right this very second whose fate in life is being decided by a couple of blithely ignorant young people who have not received informed consent, and are only influenced by idiotic Hollywood propaganda and cultural slop.

No you see, this is all your problem to deal with.

They don't want to shoulder the burden of defending their filth- it is ethically and factually impossible. So they flip the board, flush the toilet, and chuck it all down the drain in the name of absolving themselves of any responsibility in the damage caused by their disgusting fetish.

You see, it was your parents and your parents alone that did this, so you have to take it up with them. Conveniently, your mutilation is somehow your problem now. The time for debate has ended, you see. This is a you problem and suddenly they don't (and by extension, no one else on the planet) has any time or want to hear about it.

Obviously, asking your parents about it is a huge privilege in and of itself. Many men never get the chance. They may have been adopted, they may have only found out the truth of their mutilation well into adulthood after their parents had died. Many lose their parents too young (as I did). Many never have that relationship with their parents, may never worked up the courage. Those that do inevitable get unsatisfactory answers: I've seen this story play out hundreds of times personally and could count the number of "we wanted to keep you intact but it was medically critical" on less than one hand. At best you get cultural/religious nonsense, or pseudo-scientific gibberish.

And in the end, there is no resolution. There is no catharsis. There is no reversing what was done to us. We are marked for life. We are scarred for life. We are denied pleasure, for life. Confronting ignorant fools 30 years after their failure does nothing for anyone, anywhere.

Except absolve this filth of their responsibility in it.

Well I won't have it.

F-ck them, and f-ck their cowardice.

Hold these fetishists feet to the fire and make them answer for their crimes.

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u/Nilahit — 11 days ago

It’s quite disappointing and upsetting to see how much male genital autonomy is not taken seriously at all.

While there were thankfully people there arguing against MGM, there was also a decent amount of people there that would state that they were “thankful” that it was done to them or how “it’s medically necessary to prevent infection”. There of course, were also people there who just didn’t take this topic seriously at all either and would just be completely dismissive or disrespectful to those arguing against MGM.

u/Slave-Knight-Gael- — 11 days ago

Any Canadians or Australians here?

Curious to know people’s experiences where this is more 50/50. We all know the shitty gaslighting Americans try to push on each other. Is it the same in those countries where everyone tries to make you think it’s better to be circumcised and the whole world” oh woman prefer it” shit?

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u/new_sensation656 — 11 days ago

My life was always predetermined

I think life wants me to suffer remind me of all of this if it didn’t it seems It only brings intact guys to me like it’s like it knows it hurts I really can’t help it feel it’s predetermined and it’s supposed to be this way because what other explanation is there?

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u/Fair_Smoke4710 — 11 days ago

Why are they like this?

I noticed a pattern with these people they seem to be rampantly against gender, affirming surgeries for trans. People yet are perfectly fine with mutilating babies penises. And they always say the most ignorant and backwards shit. They are so against these imaginary scenarios with trans kids in their heads yet when they literally mutilate their children in real life, it’s never a problem to them and they really pisses me off as someone who was trans and had this shit happened to them.

u/Fair_Smoke4710 — 11 days ago

The knowledge

I will get my foreskin back. I will.

My grief is unbearable, It makes me go literally schizo like literally. I don’t even want to talk about all the mentally issues it’s done to me, to the intense fear of knifes to the sharp phantom pain in my nightmares. I am genuinely traumatised.

To the pictures of a natural penis, studies, victims, world mockery, girls "preferences”, my own pain and sexual life. My mind consumed it all. Undeniably. The obsession the envy the lust the hatred the wrath the shame and all the others fucking things. It fucking got me.

So i’m mutilated and plus I have to deal with this ? How fucking cruel humans are.

But this evil knowledge comes with a small part of hope : restoration

I will protect my exposed glans. I will not go numb. I will have that gliding motion. I already know who in my friends are cut. Told them if they had an issue (sexual life etc), they are free to message me. I’m doing it for one closest friend rn. Protecting him from this evil knowledge while putting him on

I will endure it at all. I never show a once of my trauma. I never open up but now when people will finally realise what i’ve been through while helping them they will fucking understand. And that will be my revenge against this world. Not a once of negative energy or thoughts with my peers. It it was circumcision wants u to do

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u/Exciting_Wind2388 — 11 days ago