r/DefendingAIArt

I can't be the only one that finds this utterly contemptuous and disgusting right?

It's just cultural landlordism and rent seeking, i see It as utterly depraved and evil, the idea that even after having provided the concept, idea or even direction, and having payed for the labour necessary for It to exist physically, that the fact that the entire thing Is not even a product solely of one person but of countless generations of people and a cultural/social context that Is not produced by them (but that they themselves are a product of!!) that after all that they get to "own" a piece of the cultural commons (which they themselves gleefuly and freely utilize) and use the forces of the state to protect their "property" and the outcomes that protect their profit, this Isnt about being compensted for your labour, it's about getting payed for your ownership of a peice of culture, it's evil.

These people are petit bourgeoise, nothing more, to pretend they are allies to workers or that the anti ai position Is leftist in any way Is a sham, it's rent seeking, it's class protectionism, AI Is a tool for liberation of the cultural commons and we must make sure that It remains in our hands and not a few oligarchs, and we must make sure to protect It from cultural and media cartels, enforced by conglomerates or individuals, that seek to trample on our collective right to utilize the cultural commons they have enclosed through legality, they, both the bourgeoise and petit bourgeoise, are the enemy of the future and of humanity.

u/Elick333 — 5 days ago

Being anti-AI anything is an amazing asshole-detector.

Went to a new sub that was a circlejerk of a show I used to watch. Wrote a humorous post detailing why the protagonist of the show should have been someone different in the cast of characters. It had word play - obscure references - unique comical phrasings - it was a cool post.

Uploaded three pics of my preferred protagonist - I guess the last one was AI made? I honestly couldn't tell (I don't think anyone really can anymore). Guess what happened.

You don't have to - because you've likely been on Reddit before. My entire post was ignored - like, everything I had actually written - and people in there were having literal meltdowns over the fact that I had put an AI image in there - including the mod of the sub - who responded after two minutes - meaning he didn't even read the post either.

And it was just an onslaught of the most genuinely dislikable Karens who were collectively clutching an oyster farm's worth of pearls about an image that AI may have generated. And everything else I had written was ignored entirely. And it was like - okay - I get it now ...

This is another modern-day asshole test. If you flip out on someone because they used an AI image - you might just have found the perfect vehicle to transfer and dump your surplus of mental-illness refuse.

Fucking hell, I swear ...

Looking at other posts in the sub - from a few days prior - and it was, I kid you not, "We need to attract more people to the sub."

And like a gigantic 1,000 piece puzzle in the hands of AI - the whole picture came together in seconds.

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u/ZinZezzalo — 4 days ago

Why does “is it AI?” come before “is it good?”

I keep seeing people look at an image and immediately start trying to figure out if it’s AI before saying anything about the image itself.

Feels a little backwards to me. If you liked something at first glance, does finding out how it was made really change that?

Found these by Rarisha (pic1) and QuiMi (pic2) on PixAI.

u/FabiaoX — 5 days ago

A Little “Discovery” About Antis

I think quite a few people probably came to the same conclusion a while ago.

It’s not just that they don’t exist in real life. They barely seem to exist at all.

Most of the stories many of them post are fake and AI-generated. I ran about five of them through my own AI, and it came to that conclusion. It could still be wrong, but it’s suspicious.

I haven’t met a single anti-AI person in real life, nor have I heard of any known cases. The closest thing would be the YouTubers they watch, but anyone can pretend to believe something on camera without any problem.

At least, I’ve come to the conclusion that they’re just pure bait for Reddit, and that’s it. That would explain why their arguments and posts are so dramatic, paranoid, and honestly pretty funny in a way xd

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u/Tet4edr0 — 4 days ago

The HATE on AI is the same hate on Photoshop back in the 90s

I came online in the early '90s, when digital tools were new and most people were skeptical of them. I've spent years fascinated by editing and creating with technology, and the current debate over AI-generated images and video feels like a rerun of an argument I remember well.

When Photoshop arrived, the early results were often obvious fakes, and critics dismissed the whole medium. Darkroom photographers saw digital manipulation as a lesser craft. Over time, though, retouching and compositing became standard practice, and the skill matured into a discipline. The people who thrived weren't the ones who applied a filter and called it art. They understood light, composition, and the tool well enough to use it with restraint.

I think AI is following the same arc. Right now anyone can generate something, and much of the output is crude, which invites the same backlash. As the tools mature, the meaningful distinction will be between casual output and skilled, intentional work. Creators who know exactly what they want and how to direct the tool will set the standard, much as the best Photoshop artists did.

That's not to say the critics are wrong about everything. Concerns about authenticity, labor, and disclosure are legitimate and deserve serious answers. But history suggests a medium is ultimately judged by its best practitioners, not its worst examples.

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u/Federal_Worker5789 — 5 days ago

defending adobe. also, do they not realize this will fuck up artists more?

the moment where AI is involved in big corp getting fucked, these guys become the biggest cocksuckers for adobe or any big corp

u/jaiden_roselvet — 4 days ago

"lets Slip malwares on the art file to own Le AI bros." Yeah, that wouldn't work either

AI models don’t “run” your image file thats not how its works

AI models only process pixel data or latents. They never execute the file. A PNG/JPG is just image data your malware payload never runs.

Closed labs (OpenAI, Midjourney, Google, etc.) use heavily filtered, curated datasets. Malware signatures and anomalous files get stripped long before training. As for open models and fine-tunes are trained on already-cleaned public data or data the user deliberately chooses. The only machine that gets hit is the one dumb enough to download your file.

Even in a fantasy scenario where a few files slipped through, modern training runs use hundreds of millions to billions of images. A handful of malicious files are pure noise and change nothing about the model’s behavior or style knowledge.

Most models people are angry about are already trained. New files can’t rewrite existing weights.

it also completely fails against the things these people actually complain about (unauthorized training, style copying, big companies scraping). Style is learned as statistical patterns across massive datasets, not stored as individual files. Generation pipelines never “run” random art files from Twitter or bluesky,

also professional training environments are sandboxed and scanned precisely to prevent this kind of nonsense.

You’re more likely to infect yourself or catch a federal charge than hurt any AI system.

u/Responsible_person_1 — 5 days ago

I think the recent malfoid trend on twitter has...

-has made more people pro ai or neutral to it

Especially with how people are now making full blown ai animation clips of Harry x Malfoid and receiving nothing but praise at least from most people

u/Quick-Somewhere-6474 — 4 days ago

maybe it's not the amount effort put into the art that matters, but the satisfaction of the experience making and consuming it

u/valamei — 5 days ago

First we were fascists, then we were bots, and now we’re cultists... I love how sanity has apparently gone on an indefinite sabbatical for these people

u/Tet4edr0 — 4 days ago

I don’t care for ai but

I just find it weird how people keep saying that ai takes water and stuff, but there’s bigger things that take water. Also, since when did anyone even care for the world, it’s like one day they suddenly started to care when ai took over-

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u/Fluffy_Leadership300 — 5 days ago