r/Devilcorp

Okay so I’m just telling my experience, I feel so dumb for this but it was my first ever job and I know better now. Nobody told me any better and maybe j should've done research, but I fell for stupid b2b commission based pay company.

So I’m on my search for my first job, I feel like my volunteer experience and my A.A could at least get me SOMEWHERE (retail, hosting, serving, reception, etc.) and no matter who I applied to, nobody got back to me. Except one. They got back to me within a day, I was ecstatic, I was telling everyone I knew that I had an interview with a a place paying weekly, between $1000-$1600. It sounds awesome, I’m excited because that meant I could pay off my car, pay for uni, and just take care of myself overall. I thought this was a great opportunity. To be clear I applied for “Business Sales Representative“ so I thought I was working with a business sales department and being a middle man for helping customers or other businesses with their issues or questions Basically being customer service because that’s what the description of the job had said.

I get to my first round interview and it’s about 10 maybe 15 minutes long and it’s just this woman asking me if I’m willing to speak to new people everyday, willing to work hard, and giving it my all. Obviously I say yes because duh I want the job. I get my second and final interview and this guy tells me NOTHING of what I’m doing, just explains the company and uses the whole “we’re a competitive company but we love to have fun” “it’s a lot like sports“ (then goes to explain how it’s nothing like sports, he did this my entire time there). However, a BIG thing that caught my attention was “we have a guaranteed training pay if $400” like wow that’s amazing I just gotta get through that and I’ll be all good!!! I got the job, YIPPEEEEE(not yippee).

This is where it allllllllll starts to go wrong, immediately. I had about $700 in my bank account when I started this job. I had one week of training. 3 in office, 2 “in the field”. The training bonus was not guaranteed, you were guaranteed to fail and not get that $400 at all. And unfortunately for me driving up there was a 55 minute drive to and 55 minute drive back home. So I was losing money spending on gas every other day. I filled my gas twice in a day 2 times in the TWO WEEKS I worked there. I went from $700 and a dream to make big bucks to $300 and crying about needing to quit because they lied about what my job actually was.

To explain what I really did, I was a B2B, door-to-door or whatever you wanna call it salesperson. I was really confused how this mad me a business sales representative if I was going out and bothering people to get AT&T fiber and new phones. I talked to so many people and they were obviously not interested, I put myself in nice clothes, put on my best smile, made myself attractive because we all know sales is being attractive as well. It became this play I hated immediately. I liked my coworkers, they were fun, the director seemed like there was something off with her, but I could tell exactly what it was. And my lead, he was the guy who interviewed me and he would always bring up “it’s like sports how you have plays” oh my goodness shut UP!!!

Anyhow fast forward to the end of my second week, I’ve only made ONE, count that ONE (1) sale, 1 sale 1 unit and it was a consumer sale, you wanna know how much money I made from that? $65 for working 10 hour shifts every week day. I worked 50+ hours in my second week, no bathroom break, I skipped lunch most days because “oh I just forget we need to eat” or “well you just have to let us know” when they’re all about go-go-go “we don’t stop for anything”. I told my parents that I was only getting paid for the sale I made and they made me quit. I pay my own bills like I mentioned previously and I was doing nothing but losing money.

All I want to say to anyone between 18-21 who’s never had a job before, please please please do not fall for the whole “well pay $1,200-$2,000 a week!!” And also, just because they’re young and in ugly suits that don’t even match, doesn’t mean they’re put together and know anything. They don’t care for your struggles, even if they say they’ll pay for your gas, they don’t care what happens to you. My director and some coworkers made that very clear when they said they don’t remember anyone from their training period. They told me that I was overthinking because I remembered interactions and people we talked to, no I just care about clientele and the customer and I’m not a selfish prick who’s going to pressure them into buying a stupid IPhone 17 Pro ”on us if you trade in your old phone and we’ll wave those activation fees blah blah blah blah”. I hate that place and I truly wish nothing but literally nothing for them. Wasting peoples time and money.

Overall moral of the story, don’t fall for the easiest bait in the world, it literally won’t get you anywhere. I’m sorry for the book I just wrote but I’m super frustrated and I’m still looking for jobs, I’ve been out of that one for a week and a half now, I have some interviews with retail stores and that’s not any better, but I just need a stable job to hold me up. Take care, thank you!

I am looking to interview people about there experience with devil corps. i am making a video series where i go into interviews and wate there time and i need backround of how this effects people.

My friend has been working for this company in Texas for about 4-5 months now and his “leader” or higher up idk what they call them just asked if he wanted to move in with him. After only being there 5 months. He’s excited bc he can learn more if he’s closer but I’ve never heard of your boss wanting to live with you. Is this normal for them to do ?

I went into a BestBuy looking for an AC to DC cable, I asked for help from, who looks like an employee wearing BestBuy polo shirt., and was bombarded by telephone plans by the employee (?).

We couldn't find the cable I needed. After I said thank you for their help, they immediately start with their pitch, they asked, "Oh what's your phone plan, who's paying for your plan". I had to shut them down immediately because I didn't want to waste my time. I've had BestBuy tried to upsell insurance or bundle etc but never cellphone plans.

Are devilcorps now allowed to wear BestBuy uniforms now?

I never knew about the term devilcorp or anything but in short, applied to some company, they got back but it was sus so did digging, learnt about devilcorp, asked about specific comp, verified it is one, now I don’t bother BUT

So I have a possible 2nd interview as they are really pushing me. I have blocked both the numbers they were constantly texting and calling me from. Blocked the email when they started contacting me thru there. Fam member is not understanding this whole devilcorp concept and is just really glazing that I got some "high respect" looking job and is pushing me to go to the 2nd interview. Honestly I’ve given up trying to explain to them so should I just keep ignoring or is there something else I can try to teach them for their own sake in avoiding these types of companies too?

I’ve never made a reddit post before but I have seen a few people mention scam marketing jobs on this page so I thought I’d best share my experience.

I interviewed with Iliad Group about a month or so ago and it was very much a “promises everything but delivers nothing” kind of position. They preach a “everyone starts at the same position” and “the harder you work, the faster you progress” gospel. The biggest red flag for me was all the jargon marketing language they used, the promise of uncapped commission and the lack of substance on the website.

I have screenshots of my correspondence with the people at the company and a voice recording of one of my multiple interviews with them (which I used to pass their ridiculous online test lol).

TLDR// Avoid Iliad Group.

its me again, long story short following up with my previous post abt how i got scammed:

i moved to another city to work as an "marketing intern" for them. since im on student visa, i need to have work authorization, and i need to get myself an offer letter + a paper that proved my legal employment.

on the offer letter it said the weekly guarantee paid is $800 and the paycheck comes biweekly, so normally what people expect is to get 1600 by their third week. just got my paycheck yesterday and it was 600. i got confused, so i asked my manager what happened.

"oh, so the 800 in the offer letter is just to pass the minimum wage required to apply for work authorization. the actual paid you got is 600/week"

literally wanted to quit immediately after that. then i asked "okay still it supposed to be 1200. where's the other 600?"

"oh so we pay you the first week on the third week. so basically, you get paid everyday with the amount you make 2 weeks before". whats more is that they told me that if i dont make any sales in a week they not gonna even pay me a single penny.

weird how they talk about making tons of money in this industry and the managers wearing cheap ass suits from temu with a huge ripoff on their back. i smell poverty. my dad gives me 1000 every month and tbh im good with being unemployed

i was like okay sounds good imma pass on that.

i quit yall. im paying 800 for this rent in the city I'm at, the due is in the 5th. im working my ass off 12hrs a day (they expecting me to do extra on literally SATURDAY FOURTH OF JULY). not even able to cover my rent.

peace out yall and this is a warning for all of you guys out there falling for this trap: you're wasting your time, effort, and risking your health on this bs.

I just found this subreddit. From my understanding, a Devilcorp is a multi level marketing scheme? Anyhow, I'll probably reject any future interviews with them regardless

Devilcorp that I worked for had their entire website and insta completely deleted when I tried to research. At first I thought something had happened (hopeful thinking) but then I remembered they were rebranding to a new name etc. I'm assuming this is totally a play in trying to cut ties with the previous branding, what kind of company instantly clears their presence online unless something was seriously wrong with it? Anyone else have thoughts on this?

so i was at this job for a good 2 days before i had to leave for personal reasons and at first it was fine, i went door to door asking ppl if they wanna sign up to a charity and if they say no they say no. but when i went back about last week i quit after 1 day. i was shadowing this absolute nightmare, we were at a door and this woman proceeded to say she has no bank details or card on her. fair enough me too. he asks for bank statements or even telling her to phone a family member for the card details… she’s clearly doesn’t wanna sign up to this stupid charity which a minimum donation is £10. like not everyone has tha to spare. he kept telling me not to take no for an answer when at the doors which is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
before going to the doors i learnt not to sign someone up that’s too old or too vulnerable, which wasn’t a problem for this guy cuz at the another door there was this 88 year old woman who was very hard of hearing and she kept telling him she wasn’t giving bank details to him and he just kept asking and asking like this was basically how it went:

Guy: so can i sign you up?
Woman: no i don’t give my bank details out
Guy: thats fine if you wanna go grab it i can do it for you, yeah?
Woman: but i dont give them out and plus my daughter has them
Guy: go get your phone and call your daughter and tell her to give you the details over the phone
Woman: i dont want too

(she kept saying no for a good 5 mins) then eventually she shut the door and he proceeded to stay here and talk to her through the door basically demanding she signs up. im so glad i left cuz they are all so fuckin desperate for money (which we all are but they are way way worse) that they try and scam old vulnerable people. the demanding happened at almost every door and everyone kept telling him no and he just kept saying to sign up and give more than £10.

PLS DO NOT WORK IN SALES EVER ITS ALL SCAM
not to mention it was commission only so what if i worked 10 hours for 5 days and got no sales. isn’t that just awful? who would do that.

edit: forgot to mention the guy i shadowed took like 3 zyns while at doors ect

Honest Review of My Experience
Background
I joined this company because I needed income and wanted to gain sales experience. I had no previous sales background and had recently interviewed with another sales company that didn’t work out. Because of that experience, I felt more prepared going into this interview.
This review is based on my experience as a new hire.

Interview Process
The interview itself was relatively short, around 15–20 minutes.
I was hired quickly, which I appreciated because I needed work. During the interview, the interviewer appeared somewhat preoccupied at times, and I left with several unanswered questions. Looking back, I wish I had asked more questions about the day-to-day responsibilities, compensation structure, transportation requirements, schedule expectations, and what the job actually involved.
One thing future applicants should make sure they understand before accepting is exactly what type of sales position they are applying for.

What to Wear to the Interview
For men:
Suit and tie recommended
Dress shoes
Resume
For women:
Professional business attire
Closed-toe shoes
Resume
Professional appearance seems to be taken seriously throughout the company.

Orientation
After being hired, I attended orientation.
The orientation includes paperwork, presentations, and training materials that need to be completed within a limited amount of time. There is a lot of information presented quickly, and some new hires may feel overwhelmed during their first week.
There is also mandatory training, including an unskippable sexual harassment course that takes approximately one hour to complete.

Company Culture
The company has a young, energetic, highly competitive sales culture.
The environment reminded me of a toned-down version of “Wolf of Wall Street.” There are motivational meetings, recognition of top performers, team chants, and a strong emphasis on attitude, confidence, and personal development.
Some people may find this motivating and exciting. Others may find it intense.
The workforce appeared to be predominantly male, roughly 70% men and 30% women during my experience.
Promotions can happen quickly for high performers, which creates a fast-moving environment. Because some people move up rapidly, leadership experience may vary from person to person.
Leadership generally appears loyal to the company and committed to helping people advance through the system.

What the Job Actually Is
The position is primarily door-to-door sales for AT&T products and services.
This was the biggest surprise to me.
When researching the company online, I saw references to kiosk sales positions. While those opportunities may exist, my role involved going door-to-door in residential neighborhoods.
A typical day involves:
Morning meetings and workshops
Traveling to assigned territories
Walking door-to-door
Presenting AT&T products and services
Handling objections and rejection
Following up with customers
End-of-day performance reviews
Success requires persistence, confidence, and comfort speaking with strangers.

Daily Schedule
A typical day may look something like this:
10:00 AM – Morning meeting
10:00 AM to 12:00 PM – Workshops and training
12:00 PM to 1:00 PM – Travel, preparation, lunch, or team activities
2:00 PM – Begin knocking on doors
6:00 PM to 8:00 PM – Peak hours when more people are home
8:30 PM onward – End-of-day review and travel home
Although the official schedule may end earlier, many employees do not arrive home until 10:00 PM or later depending on territory location and transportation arrangements.

Transportation
Having a vehicle is a major advantage.
Employees without cars often ride with coworkers and are generally expected to contribute toward gas expenses.
If you rely on rides from others:
Your schedule depends on the driver
Travel times may vary significantly
You may arrive home much later than expected
This is something I wish I had fully understood before starting.

Physical Demands
This job is more physically demanding than many people may expect from a sales position.
Expect:
Long periods of walking
Long periods of standing
Outdoor work in the heat
Spending most of the day on your feet
This is something applicants should seriously consider before accepting the position.

What to Bring Every Day
Because this is outdoor door-to-door sales, I would recommend bringing:
Water bottle
Fully charged phone
Portable phone charger
Lunch or snacks
Comfortable dress shoes
Notebook and pen
Sunscreen
Sunglasses
You will spend a significant amount of time outdoors, walking and standing.

Training
Most of the morning training focuses on:
Mindset
Attitude
Motivation
Success principles
Leadership development
Personally, I would have preferred more structured training focused specifically on AT&T products, pricing, plans, and customer conversations.
People who learn best through motivational coaching may enjoy the training style more than those who prefer technical or product-focused instruction.

Compensation
This is primarily a commission-based position.
The company promotes significant earning potential for strong performers, and there are people who appear to earn substantial income.
However, new hires should understand that income depends heavily on performance.
Potential earnings and actual earnings can be very different, especially while learning the role.
One thing worth mentioning is that there is very little math involved in the actual job. Most of the work revolves around communication, customer interaction, presenting offers, and following the sales process.

Advancement Structure
The company appears to have a clearly defined advancement path.
Requirements generally involve:
Customer signups
Cell phone line sales
Consistent attendance
Professional appearance
Leadership responsibilities
Leaders receive additional commission incentives and can continue progressing toward higher levels of responsibility.
Advancement can happen quickly for people who consistently perform well.

End-of-Day Reviews
At the end of the day, employees participate in performance reviews.
These reviews are generally conducted one-on-one while the rest of the team is also receiving feedback.
In my experience, the reviews were usually constructive and focused on improvement.
Examples of feedback might include:
Memorizing the script more effectively
Improving confidence
Increasing effort or activity levels
Working on specific sales skills
People who respond well to direct coaching may appreciate this approach.

New Hire Experience
As a new hire with no sales experience, I sometimes felt pressure to perform before I fully understood the products, pitch, and sales process.
The learning curve felt steep during the first week.
I also learned that confidence plays a major role in sales. When I became self-conscious during a pitch, I would sometimes forget parts of my script or lose my train of thought.

What I Learned
Even in a short period, I learned several valuable lessons:
Confidence matters as much as product knowledge.
Rejection is a normal part of sales.
Most doors will not result in a sale.
Being self-conscious during a pitch can make you forget what comes next.
Sales can be mentally exhausting.
Door-to-door sales is very different from other forms of sales.
A job can have strong earning potential and still not be the right fit for you.

Pros
Opportunity to learn sales
Strong emphasis on personal growth
Performance-based advancement
High income potential
Fast-paced environment
Opportunity to build communication skills
Clear promotion structure
Very little math required

Cons
Long workdays
Outdoor work in the heat
Door-to-door sales may not be clearly understood by every applicant before joining
Heavy reliance on commission
Transportation challenges for employees without vehicles
High-pressure environment
Frequent feedback and criticism
Training style may not suit every learning style
Physically demanding

What I Wish I Knew Before Joining
The role is primarily door-to-door sales.
Having a car makes the job significantly easier.
The workday is often longer than the posted schedule.
Most sales happen later in the evening.
The culture is highly competitive.
Feedback can be direct and frequent.
The job is physically demanding.
Success depends heavily on handling rejection.
There is very little math involved.
The earning potential is real, but results vary dramatically from person to person.

Final Thoughts
I do not doubt that people can make a lot of money here.
The company rewards performance, advancement appears achievable, and the opportunity is real for people who enjoy door-to-door sales.
For me personally, the combination of long hours, outdoor work, transportation challenges, and the door-to-door sales environment made me realize this type of work is not the best fit for my goals and personality.
I would recommend that anyone considering the position ask detailed questions about daily responsibilities, compensation, transportation, schedule expectations, and whether they are comfortable spending most of their day doing door-to-door sales.

I’m willing to answer questions if you have any!