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Image 1 — New X-mid pro 1 in tyvek
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New X-mid pro 1 in tyvek

For two days, I have been able to test the X-Mid 1 in white Durston Tyvek. This tent will never be produced, Durston has said, and I have had to promise to write exactly that, i.e., that it will never be released in Durston Tyvek. But these are my thoughts after using it.

The difference between this and my X-Mid 1 PRO in DCF is that it weighs about 550 grams more, which is about 47% more for an X-Mid compared to one in DCF. And it takes up about 100% more volume. Another difference is that the material is much more cheaper than DCF. In short: heavier, larger volume, and cheaper. But...

The positive thing is that Durston Tyvek is far more durable and feels more like the side of a house than parchment paper, which DCF can almost feel like. The material is also continuously being developed. I just found out that an even more developed model than the Durston Tyvek I have has recently arrived. It's also breathable.

This also means that it doesn't need to be folded and rolled in the same way, you can treat it like Dan Becker treats Lloyd. Partly, as you might see, it is not transparent like DCF, which I think is damn nice to have on the mountain. I have about 2 nights in the tent so far.

But even if it takes up a bit more volume and weighs more, this is my absolute favorite tent. I don't have to think about handling it in the same way, as you can roll it up on thorn bushes without any problems. The more static structure also makes it even easier to pitch perfectly.

There are plans for the material, but the X-Mid specifically will not be sold in Durston Tyvek. Yesterday I got approval from Durston to post about it as long as I am clear that it will NOT be released to the public. Previously, I had to promise not to share pictures or anything about it at all.

I strongly believe in Durston Tyvek as a material if they can make it a bit thinner so that it gets closer to the weight and volume of DCF. It is such an extremely durable material that doesn't get pinholes in it after long-term use and that doesn't wear in the same way as DCF.

I don't know how many nights you can use this before you think it needs to be replaced, there are no tests on that. As far as I know, this is the only tent that exists in Durston Tyvek apart from the one Durston has, and also the side and roof of every house in America.

But after 2 days with this tent, my opinion is that Durston Tyvek has a very promising future, as long as Justin outdoors, Miranda, Dan Becker and Eric Hanson approve. Partly because it doesn't let light in the same way, partly because it is far more durable than DCF. And I won't hide the fact that I think it looks better too... much better.

So I see a promising future for Durston Tyvek shortly, when they have reached their goal regarding the thickness and then also weight and volume.

I think some people will pay the price even if it were to cost about 50% less, which Dan has said is the approximate difference. So I don't think the price, even if it is really low, will deter people even though they want the most expensive materials known to man.

I believe anyway that Durston Tyvek will take over the market in the not-too-distant future if they manage to make it lighter.

I love my extra heavy X-Mid in Durston Tyvek at 1600 grams including guylines and stuff sack anyway and will continue to use it on my trips.

/s

u/cianc1 — 6 hours ago

X-Mid Pro 1 beta in black ALUULA (note: will never be produced)

https://preview.redd.it/lvd8zxzyuckh1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86857fc664c8d6a7958e434830f05cfe13977a83

Translated using Kagi Translate from Swedish here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/681466165805217/?multi_permalinks=1936935210258300

>For 2 seasons I have been able to test the X-Mid 1 in black ALUULA. This tent will never be produced, Durston has said, and I have had to promise to write exactly that, i.e., that it will never be released in ALUULA. But these are my thoughts after using it.

>The difference between this and my X-Mid 1 PRO in DCF is that it weighs about 85 grams more, which is about 17% more for an X-Mid compared to one in DCF. And it takes up about 10% more volume. Another difference is that the material is much more expensive than DCF.

>In short: heavier, larger volume, and more expensive.

>But…

>The positive thing is that ALUULA is far more durable and feels more like a plastic film than parchment paper, which DCF can almost feel like. The material is also continuously being developed. I just found out that an even more developed model than the ALUULA I have has recently arrived.

>This also means that it doesn't need to be folded and rolled in the same way. I do it anyway, i.e., fold and roll it, but it's damn nice to know that you don't have to be particularly careful with the material.

>Partly, as you might see, it is not transparent like DCF, which I think is damn nice to have on the mountain. I have about 80 nights in the tent so far.

>But even if it takes up a bit more volume and weighs more, this is my absolute favorite tent. I don't have to think about handling it in the same way, as you can roll it up on thorn bushes without any problems. The more static structure also makes it even easier to pitch perfectly.

>There are plans for the material, but the X-Mid specifically will not be sold in ALUULA. Yesterday I got approval from Durston to post about it as long as I am clear that it will NOT be released to the public. Previously I had to promise not to share pictures or anything about it at all.

>I strongly believe in ALUULA as a material if they can make it a bit thinner so that it gets closer to the weight and volume of DCF. Such an extremely durable material that doesn't get pinholes in it after long-term use and that doesn't wear in the same way as DCF.

>I don't know how many nights you can have this before you think it needs to be replaced, there are no tests on that. As far as I know, this is the only tent that exists in ALUULA apart from the one Durston has.

>But after 2 seasons with this tent, my opinion is that ALUULA has a very promising future. Partly because it doesn't let light in the same way, partly because it is far more durable than DCF. And I won't hide the fact that I think it looks better too….. much better 🙂

>So I see a promising future for ALUULA shortly, when they have reached their goal regarding the thickness and then also weight and volume.

>I think some people will pay the price even if it were to cost about 50% more, which Dan has said is the approximate difference. So I don't think the price, even if it is high, will deter people because of the durability.

>I believe anyway that ALUULA will take over the market in the not too distant future if they manage to make it lighter. .

>I love my heavy X-Mid in ALUULA at 548 grams including guylines and stuff sack anyway and will continue to use it on my trips 🙂

u/kris33 — 10 hours ago

Kakwa 55 sizing (large)

Feel as though pack is slightly to large. My torso was measured to be around 20-21 inches but not sure how well was done.

Bag isn’t fully loaded only a few pounds( waiting for rest of gear to be shipped over) and straps could be adjusted better but just not sure. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Am 5’11 and certainly more torso than legs…

u/Jammy0003 — 13 hours ago

Tent selection for Scandinavian usage

Hello. I've been looking into adding a new tent (at least one :D) to my gear selection, and the amount of praise Durston gets has not gone unnoticed. I do already have a couple of tunnel tents, one being more towards three-season/shoulder-season usage and one being a proper expedition-grade tent.

What am I looking for, then, and what kind of questions do I have?

Well, something lighter, which is a no-brainer since both the X-Mid and X-Dome would 100% fit that category. But I'm also keen on understanding what kind of weather each of these models can realistically be pushed into, and what kind of configuration would make the most sense for different conditions (e.g. carbon vs. aluminium poles, mesh vs. solid inner). I'm considering the 2P models since I'm quite often camping with a partner.

Our yearly hikes and camping range from the Finnish archipelago to Northern Norway, as well as more mountainous areas such as Jotunheimen in southern Norway (and pretty much everything in between).

My concern is that I'm trying to find something that fits absolutely everything, and it just seems to get a bit difficult when also trying to stay relatively lightweight.

To me, it seems like the X-Mid would be considerably more storm/wind-worthy, while the X-Dome would be a no-brainer for trips in the archipelago or on smaller islands in Finnish lakes. Archipelago and island camping generally requires reasonably good weather for boating or kayaking, so I don't think storm-worthiness is quite as crucial for that particular usage, even though the sea can obviously surprise you.

On the other hand, pitching a tent on smaller islands (sometimes with no flat areas and very rocky surfaces) could be tricky with a trekking-pole tent, and this is where I can see the X-Dome's freestanding structure being a major advantage. The weight also isn't such a big factor when moving around by boat/kayak/canoe.

Then again, when moving to mountain plateaus where high winds could hit the tent, I'm more concerned about the freestanding structure and how much it can actually take, even when properly reinforced. I've seen a video where an X-Dome completely collapses in strong wind with the carbon poles, although it also recovers afterwards. This made me wonder whether aluminium poles would be a better fit for this kind of use.

I've also been wondering about the solid inner. It seems like it could make quite a lot of sense for Scandinavia, especially in exposed and windy conditions, but I'm not sure if I'm overestimating the benefit. I do have a relatively warm sleeping system already, so warmth isn't necessarily the main reason I'm considering it.

Also, how are these tents to pitch in regular winds? So let's say in +10 m/s (22 mph) sustained winds? I get that they can both take at least the twice the amount of wind, but I've seen some people struggle with getting a good pitch in windy conditions. Is it actually difficult, or is it mostly a matter of getting used to the pitching procedure? And how about when the wind or gusts gets significantly higher? 10ms/22mph is something that I consider very common, but of course it's still far from any kind of gale force numbers. I'm also trying to get an idea how each performs in different kinds of environments, not only occasional one night storms.

And finally, I could also just look at the price difference between the X-Mid and X-Dome and use that money towards a cheaper freestanding tent for the occasional island trips.

All comments and different perspectives on my considerations are highly appreciated. Thanks!

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u/dru1d1 — 12 hours ago

X-Dome and X-Mid Pro owners: The Official Unofficial Zipper Poll

Due to lots of chatter about this, here is a clear and concise poll regarding zippers sizes. Obviously given the title, this poll is not being made by a Durston employee.

If you have an X-Dome, X-Mid Pro, or 2025 X-Mid, you have #3 YKK zippers on your tent fly. Some people say they’re fine, some find them associated with failure in the field.

If you have an X-Mid regular (any year other than 2025) or solid, you have the more rugged #5 YKK zipper that Dan said he preferred.

Using this model information, if you currently have a model with a #3 zipper would you:

View Poll

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u/Rude-Bumblebee-414 — 24 hours ago

Maiden Voyage

Just got back from an overnight backpacking trip to Lilian Lake in Kananaskis Country. Took my new Xmid along and pitched it on a platform overlooking the lake. I was able to get a nice pitch using these anchor pegs wjth integrated spring and carabiner. Shout out to geartrade.ca who I believe make these - I’ve only ever seen the straight up anchor peg version. Great tent - very versatile and looking forward to many trips with it.

u/Frosty-Ladder870 — 1 day ago

Disappointed

I have a new durston x2. Pitched a handful of times and been camping for years. I was really excited about this tent but now there is a tear in the rainfly and the stuff sack. There is no customer service line. No human to talk to. Even the email is a bot. I am told I can mail it in at my own expense for a repair or repair it myself or get 30% off a new fly. This is unsatisfactory and evidently nothing to do. Terrible customer service experience. Not excited about this tent anymore. I have never had a tear in a tent even 10 yrs old. This is no way to treat customers.

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u/Smooth_Role775 — 1 day ago

Got my X-Dome 1

Happy to report I got my X-Dome 1, but it was more stressful than getting my Maroon Bells permit. I kept refreshing until my preferred option became available. Looking forward to taking it on lots of adventures.

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u/Kuplu_cunei — 1 day ago

How is my X-Mid repair?

Hi!

I had a small tear in my X-mid 2 door fly, near the bottom (100% my fault). I tried to do a repair, which I have not done before, and wanted to ask if it looks alright :)

I rounded a patch of Tear Aid (Type A) for the inside (picture 1) and applied a thin layer of Gear Aid +Sil to the outside (picture 2). How's it looking?

u/Marbar2000 — 1 day ago

Great trip to the Inyo Forest in the Sierras, three nights in the new 1+!

I did have a question about this section of my poles, there is a slight amount of damage and a little splinter of carbon, is this a big issue? Maybe Dan sees this and has some advice?

u/heavy_chamfer — 2 days ago
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X-mid 1 (v2) getting very wet inside

Hi all,

I am currently halfway through my AT thru hike (flip/flop type deal). I bought my x-mid 1 (V2) back in Jan 2024 after crowd sourcing Christmas money. I had only used the tent 4 nights prior to starting my thru hike.

More recently I have noticed how very very wet the inside of my rain fly gets with rain. I’m pretty confident it is not a condensation problem as it is occurring with the vents open and 4inch + gap from the rain fly to the ground. The magnet strap for the rain fly as well as the well as the tab to clip the inner near the door get so saturated that they further drip onto the meet mesh and inside the tent.

Additionally I have had the floor get wet, beyond moist with actually water inside in areas where my body weight is not (as I do expect some moisture seeping in there). Lil shiny, where I have to microfiber cloth dry it. Anything I have set in the tent gets wet, like my phone or my pump bag for my sleeping pad. My sleeping bag can also get wet if I’m not careful to keep it completely on my pad, which gets wet on the bottom.

I do not necessarily have the budget to replace my tent. So I would love it if anyone had suggestions to mitigate this issue.

I have attached some pictures I have managed to take that help to show some of the issue. I unfortunately do not have any pictures of the floor as I’ve been trying to stay in shelters more and rain is anywhere in the forecast, which I don’t enjoy but I rather that over everything I own getting damp/wet.

u/Beth42404 — 2 days ago

X Dome 2 inner refresh date?

I read online that the X Dome 2 is getting the same updated inner as the June release of the X Dome 1+. Where the white section goes across the doors. When would that be released?

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When is the next release for X-Dome1+ (after August 18)? Also Carbon?

Heya,
I saw somewhere Dan mentioning the next release will probably be in late September. Is this still accurate? Will it also be carbon poles only or also aluminum?

Thank you!

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u/Negative_Dish_9120 — 2 days ago

What am I missing?

Researching UL packs for the PCT and the Kakwa 55 Ultragrid is a comparable or lighter weight than all the others while also being like $100 cheaper than packs from Zpacks, GG, Osprey and Hyperlight. I dont want to just follow online reviews but this pack seems like it's the lightest, cheapest and best reviewed pack out there. Like, why wouldn't I buy it?

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u/Thundrbucket — 3 days ago

Kakwa 55 Broken Load Lifter Strap

Went to pack my Kakwa 55 today. While it was on the floor, I loosened the load lifter straps, and this sewing popped right off with zero resistance. Has anyone had this issue with their bag? Thanks.

u/panamfan13 — 2 days ago

Kakwa 55 200X waterproofing and XMid 2

What lovely pieces of design / engineering! I headed out into the rain yesterday for a day hike with my first Durston (and first ultralight) gear: a Kakwa 55 200X and XMid 2.

XMid 2.

I managed to leave my hiking poles in the car, but did get the tent up for the first time ever with some sticks (and no internet to rewatch the pitch video) no problem. I used a guy line to correct an imperfect initial pitch rather than stay out in the rain more to start over. As my first ultralight tent, I was struck by how thin the materials and small the zippers were. I really liked all the little geometry benefits (especially being able to store the backpack in the vestibule and also have room inside). I also liked how I could pull back the tarp and rain still didn't get into the tent, and the little touches like two different size stakes.

https://preview.redd.it/bm2cxp50uyjh1.jpg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93fd517b14eb615b30d800e19d861b7e8b2a16bd

Kakwa 55 200X.

I really liked the fit a lot, even though I didn't really load it with much weight for this day hike test. I liked all the outside pockets on the hip belt and shoulder straps — and that big mesh pocket is great. This is my first time with this type of material, but as a backpack (which I know also includes seams!) it was not nearly as water resistant as I was expecting. I was in what I consider very normal rain for Shenandoah and not for that long, but things got quite wet inside. Are there any recommendations on how to improve how water proof the backpack is? Or is the answer really just the old pack liner, pack cover, or some such? Also, is there a reason the outside large pockets don't have any holes to drain water (for if it really pours so it doesn't just pool in there)?

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u/jdavidhobbs — 2 days ago

RIP my X-Mid Inner

I bought an X-Mid 2 a couple months ago. I had been leaning towards a hammock camping setup, but wanted my dog to come with me on some trips.

Last morning of our first trip, I had left the vestibule doors open to get some airflow, since it was a nice night. I woke up to my dog kool-aid manning through the door because he saw a bird.

Lesson learned: keep the fly buttoned up so he can't see any critters. It seems like repair would be pretty tough, so I'll start my wait for an inner to be available.

A photo of the accused is included.

u/Rory_calhoun_222 — 3 days ago