In https://4sport.ua/news?id=27891 you can read about it
Is it too much weight for the ice to hold at the summit? or can it withstand that?
Was made aware of this https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYfiT0CIEcs/?igsh=MWpheGxzc3FjNXdkeQ== and my mind is blown. Not sure if something like this has ever been attempted before. Having had HAPE and zero rotations and going for a summit bid ?!
Not sure if to be impressed or horrified at the potential risk?!
Hey, new here. I know this is provocative!! So (polar) bear with me, I think provocative discussion can be the spice of life.
Like everybody here I am super fascinated by Sagarmatha/Everest, the climbers, all of it. I’m already so excited to read every post in here and get lots of recommendations for books and documentaries. There’s so much information here, which makes me really curious as to why the prevailing stance on climbing it is so positive on here. I’m sure there are other posts like this, though I was having a hard time finding them in searching.
I mean, the thorny ethics, Mother Nature’s indifference, the hubris of people (specifically the rich), the insane risks Sherpas take, the whole class dynamics period, the want for an intimate and profound experience with nature at all costs, the fact that this want turns completely paradoxical as the mass experience causes harm to not only the land but the people who actually live there, the fact that it keeps its dead and then climbers who might join them walk by them — it’s all completely fascinating. And from where I’m standing, the more I read and see, the more certain I am that people shouldn’t be climbing it. At least not like they are now.
I’m genuinely fascinated by the wealth of information here combined with the popular positive view of it. I (polar) bear no ill will toward anyone’s positive views. I’m seriously just super curious and think this could be, if not outright fun, then at least an interesting discussion.
So I ask you:
Do you think climbing Sagarmatha is defensible? If so, why?
Do you think criticisms like any I have mentioned are overblown?
Am I missing something?
Are you flirting with me?
Because I’m flirting with you.
I've seen a few people on here point out that even someone like the Sandy Hill Pittman woman who survived the 1996 Everest expedition had actually had more climbing experience than implied by Krakauer, though I'm not certain how true this statement is.
To the people who've been on the camps or at least have done their fair share of research on the mountain and its tourism industry, how true are the negative stereotypes of modern Everest climbers and if they're not, are they primarily just fellow "peakbaggers" who shelled out an ungodly amount of money to reach the top?
Incredible Video footage from Everest Live of climbers spread out across the Lhotse Face in their summit bids.
Posted by Everest LIve approx 3 hours ago approx - Footage is from May 19th
Last year a group of British men used Xenon gas to speed up their acclimation. They went from London to the summit and back again in less than a week.
Are any climbers using Xenon this year?
For those following his climb his girlfriend posted they he’s currently resting at camp 4 and will leave for summit at 10pm. On oxygen since before camp 3.
Does anyone know what’s going on at Hilary Step today 20th May? Apparently there are quite a few climbers stuck up there and have been for a while.
>Bartek Ziemski skiing Everest and Lhotse this season without oxygen was pretty epic - but u/manish.maharjan444 and u/14peaksproduction following him through the Khumbu Icefall with a drone is another level altogether! Check out this compilation of their work and give them a follow - they’re the best in the Himalayas no doubt.
--Posted by Everest Live on May 20/26
Can someone please explain the rotations to me? My understanding is that they occur for the climbers to acclimatize. How many rotations are there?
Also, why do many climbers spend 4 weeks (or more?) at base camp.
So many questions! Yes, Google is a thing, I know. I’m going to watch some documentaries today as it’s my last day of PTO before going back to work!
ETA: Why is the summit window so short?
So I’m reading The Climb by Anatoli Boukreev and I’ve gotten to the picture inserts and saw this one of Sandy Hill Pittman with Rob Hall in the background. It says unidentified climber but I was just wondering if anyone with more knowledge on the subject could possibly identify who it is based on outfit colors or such?
This tragedy fascinates me and I’m trying to understand everything about it to understand why two incredibly seasoned climbers made such terrible mistakes leading up to May 10. Thanks in advance!
edit: thank you for all the recs!! this is amazing and keep em coming. my husband is now just as obsessed as I am, and it’s all we’re thinking about.
this weekend I had a lot of time on my hands, and after stumbling on Xavier and Bianca’s TikToks, I have been consumed by all things Everest. It’s never really crossed my mind past the random stuff you hear from time to time, but it’s consuming my free time. I can’t stop! it’s so fascinating.
so much respect and fear is swirling through my body as I learn more about summiting and what it takes. the history. the sherpas risking their lives. all of it is so insane!!
I watched 14 peaks earlier which was very cool, and my husband and I watched Everest tonight and that ruined our nights hahahahah. so so gripping and sad. great movie though.
anywho. just wanted to chat. I’ll be deep diving for the forseeable future. anyone have good recs for books / docs I can dive into? any cool facts? stories if you’ve done it? I just placed “into thin air” on Libby.
According to Jason Black the Irish team turned back due to ropes being buried in snow combined with extremely cold temperatures. Alan Arnette quotes meteorologist Chris Tomer that the jet stream will remain partially over the summit through May 24. Imagine Nepal and Bianca Adler reports through their socials that there are massive amounts of people heading up to South Col probably aiming for a summit push on May 20th.
How are situations with ropes being buried usually handled, will a new rope fixing team address it or is it up to the individual teams to fix it?
This is a comment I left. FYI, I don’t know much about this topic. So these are just educated guess. Would love to learn more about this, and hear opinions, from yall. She seems nuts. Like the people who don’t understand and call ultra runners crazy, and genuinely hate anyone doing something they can’t.
My comment: “The sherpas, that is their job. They live up there, and know what they have to do. Sure, maybe they don’t have many options, but still. You are picking through trying to find cases where people are selfish. Some people may treat the sherpas disrespectfully, and grab on to them. That man that left his wife is ONE incident, that you are then applying to every one. I’m sure you sign so many waivers, saying that if you die, the group will go on. They can’t give all that effort, just to turn around when someone dies. It’s morbid, but what you signed up for. And, how do you think that man could have gone back down, or stayed with his wife? These people are in a group, and none of them know what they’re doing with out the guide. He had to go on, he could not just stay. Truly don’t get how you are saying this is selfish, when it’s their own lives and money. And you also have no idea what the husband and wife rearranged prior. This could have been a lifelong dream for both of them, and they would have wanted the other one to continue going on. They both knew the risks before doing it, both knew that either one of them could die, and wanted the other one to fulfill their lifelong dream of getting to the top.”
Hi everyone,
I was hoping to watch this mornings Everest live before work but saw it was put to members only. They mentioned yesterday they aren’t doing it for money so I’m wondering if maybe it was a mistake? Would love to watch it
Polish climber, Bartek Ziemski, skis down Everest nonstop to basecamp after summitting w/o O's or Sherpa support. One week after doing the same on Lhotse