
Ben Ayers— this title is insulting
How about “survived on Everest alone after a bunch of white mother fuckers abandoned him”. Ben Ayers, you are so wicked tone def. This is really terrible.

How about “survived on Everest alone after a bunch of white mother fuckers abandoned him”. Ben Ayers, you are so wicked tone def. This is really terrible.
Having done both sides now, I can say that Everest on the North Side is a WILDLY different experience. It is medically easier and safer, but it's more expensive and has its own dangers. Let me go through the process.
(1) The visas. So assuming you are not a Chinese citizen, or the citizen of certain South Asian countries who can get permissions more easily, there's a multiple-step visa process to enter Tibet. First you have to get a Chinese multi-entry permit visa, and with this one you have to present a plane ticket, an itinerary that shows where you'll be every day, and hotel confirmations. There's more to this process that I won't post directly but you can PM me about it
(2) Once you have the Chinese visa, you book a tour through one of the official government-approved companies that provides Westerners with tours to Tibet. You want an ethnically-Tibetan-run one, because going with a Chinese one will give you ... a very different experience. You show them your Chinese visa and they then can apply for your Tibet visa, as well as the permit to enter the Everest nature reserve zone. You have to hire an official guide to handle the paperwork and get you through the checkpoints, register you at the different hotels and police departments, and handle anything else that comes up. The visa takes about a month, but sometimes the Chinese government withholds it until a few days before your departure. For funsies. Also, March is completely off-limits because of "sensitive" anniversaries.
(3) You fly to Beijing (or another point of entry) and receive your Tibetan visa, which you can't receive until you're in China. Then you can fly or take the train to Tibet. The train takes 2 days. You can fly directly to Lhasa (which I did) but some people fly from Beijing to Chengdu, stay overnight in Chengdu, and then fly to Lhasa because of the altitude jump.
(4) Lhasa, the capital of Tibet, is about the height of Namche Bazaar. That means you have to be there a few days and spend the first bit of it resting. Like, don't even go for a serious walk the first day because I did that because I was so excited to be in Tibet and the next day I dealt with poor sleep and a bad headache. I did not wake up breathless like on the trek, but I did get winded from basically any steps. They sell oxygen by the bottle in Lhasa and all over Tibet and there's oxygen in the hotel rooms, but it's better NOT to use it because you need to adjust and it will slow that down. I was in Lhasa for 4 nights. There's a lot to do in Lhasa.
(5) Lhasa to Shigatse. Shigatse is a higher own. The Tashilumpo Monastery is there, though not much else. Most people stay overnight and do the monastery and then move on.
(6) Shigatse to EBC. About an 8 hour drive. Checkpoints, not a lot out there, but beautiful landscapes. Also I hope you like meat, because if you ask for vegetarian food you will get a plate of fried rice like I did. EBC itself is the tourist EBC, which has hotels, lookout points, and Rongbuk Monastery. The climber EBC is elsewhere. You have to board a special bus to drive there. A lot of people around you will be using oxygen at this point, including some people on oxygen through a nose tube. Some people bring their kids and use that for their kids. Though this was the highest I'd be going (obviously), as I was going to continue along the high plateau to Darchen to see Mount Kailash, I didn't use oxygen. I didn't use oxygen the whole trip, and suffered from mild headaches and trouble sleeping, but felt much better as I descended on the way back.
(7) EBC. Unlike in Nepal, Everest is SUPER visible, as you can see. The general itinerary is arrive in the afternoon, see sunset, go to sleep (you WILL be tired), then see sunrise, then Rongbuk monastery, then leave. There's not a lot else to do there. They have oxygen pods where people can sit in and look at the mountain, the hotel rooms have oxygen, and they're building a restaurant that overlooks Everest that isn't finished yet. There's no real trekking here, except from the monastery to the best lookout point, and that's 10 minutes. Chinese tourists come with their families. Oxygen bottles - the ones you just huff like in Spaceballs - cost 10 yuan, which is about $1.50. Maybe more depending on where you buy it.
It is POSSIBLE to go to EBC from Kathmandu, but it depends what's going on politically and what passes are open. It's not super nearby - most people leave from Kathmandu to go to Mount Kailash, a Hindu-Buddhist-Jain pilgrimage site the birthplace of Shiva. That's about a 20-day roundtrip, which includes a kora (circambulation) around the mountain, which takes 3 days and people occasionally die on because of altitude problems. Like a few a year, and it's usually elderly pilgrims whose tour companies skimped on the oxygen.
It was an incredible trip. It is a different thing to have a full view of Everest that you can just stare at for as long as you want. I also like the view much better. I'm so glad I did it.
Trekkers leave Lobuche for the final walk towards Everest Base Camp, crossing the rugged Khumbu Glacier landscape beneath dramatic Himalayan peaks. It is a challenging and memorable day on the trail.
I’ve been going down a bit of a rabbit hole lately, properly fixated on the 1996 Everest disaster. The more I read into the decision-making, the breakdown in leadership, and the increasing commercialisation of the mountain, the more perplexing it all becomes.
What really stands out is how inconsistent the accounts are. Everyone seems to be describing the same catastrophe from completely different angles, with different emphases, omissions, and interpretations. I’m aware that memory, trauma, and ego all play a role here, but it still leaves me struggling to form a coherent picture.
Wonder how to reconcile these conflicting narratives ? And more broadly, how do you interpret the human factor in an environment that extreme, where judgement, survival, and commercial pressure are all colliding at altitude.
I watched it after reading Into Thin Air and I liked it a lot but I see that the reviews are not as favorable as I thought
Hi everyone,
I’m from Bangalore, India, and I’m planning to do the Annapurna Base Camp (ABC) trek this October. This will be my first multi-day Himalayan trek. The only trek I’ve done before is Kudremukh in Karnataka (around 25 km in a day), so I’m still a beginner when it comes to high-altitude trekking.
I have a few questions:
Also, if anyone is planning to do the ABC trek in October and is open to having a trekking partner, feel free to comment or send me a DM. It would be great to connect!
Thanks in advance!
Marking it as NSFW, because of the dead body.
Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is the correct subreddit to post this but I'm looking to either do the ABC or EBC trek in November. I'm coming from Brisbane and flights are anywhere from $1300-$1700AUD. I'm aware of the differences between the treks and the difficulty. What I'm unsure about is how much it will really cost without a porter or tour agency. It it realistic that I could do either of these treks for under $2500AUD or is this unrealistic. I'm happy to budget travel, including taking the bus to the trailhead etc. I'm aware of the travel logistics and everything, just need to know if I'm really underestimating the total cost of everything. I'm including the price of the flights into the cost.
Tilicho lake is the world's highest lake situated in manang district of Nepal. It is located in 4919M height from seas levels.
Kanchenjunga plus Drohmo Ri Trekking is an excellent combination of off-the-beaten-path trekking with an expedition opportunity above 6,000 m in the Kanchenjunga region of Nepal. This is almost a month-long trekking on which we will be stepping to the North and South Base Camp of the world’s third-highest mountain, Mt. Kanchenjunga. It is the 3^(rd) highest Himalaya in the world after Everest and K2 standing tall at an altitude of 8,586 meters above sea level which was often renowned as the world’s tallest peak before proper measuring instruments were discovered. Along with that, we will get to explore a virgin trail full of adrenaline and excitement climbing the Drohmo Ri. Here, the Drohmo Ri (6,100m) is often confused with the Drohmo Peak which sits higher at the elevation of 6,881m.