r/FalloutTVseries

I can't help but feel like the whole situation with Lucy getting caught by the Legion, and Cooper having to rescue her, could've all been avoided if Cooper had taken five minutes to properly explain to Lucy why she shouldn't help the wounded slaves at the hospital.

Let's say everything is the same up until Lucy and the Ghoul walk by the abandoned hospital and hear the cries for help. Lucy insists on going in to help, and the Ghoul reluctantly follows her in. They enter the hospital and find the slaves in the kitchen. But once he recognizes the two wounded people as Legion slaves, the Ghoul decides to be more upfront with Lucy, because he cares about her (even if he doesn’t want to admit it), he needs her to be intact so he can use her as a bargaining chip with her dad (which she doesn't know), and he knows how much danger a woman like her is in when in Legion territory, as she's a Vault dweller with intact reproductive organs.

So the conversation goes like this:

>The Ghoul: “Tunics. [to the woman] You awful far west, ain’t you?”
Lucy: “Ignore him. I got one stimpak left, okay?”
The Ghoul: “That would be a profound misallocation of resources. Folks in them outfits don’t deserve savin’.”
Lucy: “What are you talking about? These people are hurt. Everyone deserves savin'.”
The Ghoul: “Not these people, vaultie. These are members of Caesar's Legion. Helping them would be the stupidest thing you can do."
Lucy: "And why's that?"
The Ghoul: "They’re assholes trying to bring Ancient Rome to the Wasteland. If you’re not with them, they'll beat you and enslave you or string you to a cross. And if you're a woman, well, you're only useful to them for making more babies.”

If I had to take a guess, Lucy would probably still insist on helping the slaves in the same way she took time to free the captured ghouls in the Super Duper Mart. So she'd probably still give her last stimpak to the female slave, and maybe ask the slave to bring her to her camp so she can find medical supplies and make an attempt to free them. And in her attempt to liberate the slaves without resorting to violence, she still gets captured and has to be rescued.

Though there's also the chance that she makes a different decision, and thus she and Cooper are able to avoid the Legion entirely. Or they both get captured and have to work together to escape.

Show is still dope af. I really enjoyed it. I liked that they didn't drag out the plot points too much. Cooper found what he wanted. Lucy did too, minus the whole dad thing.

Genuine question, it was my understanding for a while it was common knowledge that a game made 6 years after the “fall of communism” showing the United States destroying the planet with its greed and world domination was pretty openly anti capitalist, like from the start? Yet, almost every single critic I see from fallout fans about season two’s representation of new Vegas (despite my own issues with it) the main critics always say that it’s going in a political or anti capitalist direction like them not doing so would be faithful to fallout, especially new Vegas.

Short list of anti capitalist critiques I could think of in this game:

- in the H&H tool factory, the employees had to submit skin samples and blood daily to work in order to be subjected to mandatory dna tests (ex: who does feel like this at work some days)

- the entire power crisis, in the lucky 38 you can see news letters speaking about all the new flashy lights in the casino and one small note about the actual civilians of Nevada not being able to power on their homes. While the United States makes shit like Helios one has.

- the Sierra Madre and the whole DLC’s story is explicitly, openly, everyone agrees this, letting go, even more literally letting go of wealth but it obviously applies elsewhere. Elijah’s best ending (imo) leaves him trapped in a vault alone without air without food but full of tons of gold.

I was watching family guy and when this part came up my girlfriend was like, hey thats like that guy from fallout and i immediately knew who she meant

The legion was the height of wasted potential. It could have been an incredibly tense sequence where Lucy is imprisoned and actually has to get down and dirty trying to escape but because she has no training in being stealthy her first kill is messy and slow alerting the camp for which she is then hung up on the cross and then the ghoul figures out a way to rescue her. This could have been the true death of her naivety and from then she is far less trusting and more ruthless echoing the ghouls words from season 1 - I'm you sweety just give it a little more time. Im just gonna say it i think they were to scared to show what the legion is actually like due to fear of backlash. What we got wasnt caesar's legion it was watered down beyond recognition the only thing that said these were legion were the outfits. I honestly feel bad for mcauly caulkin cause i feel he could have really sunk his teeth into a proper legion character. Anyway i actually can enjoy the show for what its worth it has its moments but the legion might be the biggest crime so far.

Let me know what you think do you agree or disagree and if so why? im genuinely curious