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Just finished "why men love bitches". So many points in the books were so stupid

So i bought this book after i broke up with my ex boyfriend, cause i have a friend that had it at home and i read a little bit in it once. Let me first of all say that i thought many of the points were helpfull. Like how the author would compare the "nice girl" to the "bitch". I definitly recognised myself in a lot of the nice girl stuff, and that i have 100% put a guy on top priority several times before. I was more disturbed by some of the quotes from men the author has talked with for research. I remember one said: "dont ever talk about going to the toilet or something like that infront of a man, we can barely handle seeing a period pad ad on tv". Is it just me or is this a man you dont really want to be with? Why should i read a whole book to please a man who sounds gay? Anyways a different part in the book said to NEVER even kill a fly or mosquito infront of a man, cause he wont get hard for you anymore. Im sorry, what? What makes you think i want a guy who sounds like he doesnt even like women?

Im just rambling now, but i would love to hear the thoughts of anyone else who has read it.

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u/hamandcheesebffr456 — 3 hours ago

It’s weird how men think they can do whatever they want

Hi everyone, I’m def new to this subreddit but I wanted to share an experience I had. To start, I’m an autistic woman who has always had trouble seeing peoples’ intentions (when I was younger I didn’t know being asked to a dance meant something romantic, I can’t pick up on social cues, I’ve been in bad situations because of “friendships,” etc.)

Well, in the summer after my freshman year of college I had started working at an alcoholics rehabilitation facility with a lot of older men. They generally didn’t say anything too disgusting other than insulting the (mostly female) staff when they didn’t get their alcohol portions or something else. There were two particular men who gravitated toward me, but I didn’t really think anything of it because I was mostly behind glass and thought it was just friendliness. I made friends with one particular man. I perceived the relationship with him as grandfatherly, I really enjoyed hearing stories from his life. When I left that job to go back to school, I had even given him my address so he could send me post cards and drafts of books (since he wrote). Obviously a mistake but he wasn’t in great health, didn’t have any family, and I felt bad. I thought nothing could come of it.

Fast forward, I moved into my first apartment in my sophomore year of college, and I get a letter in the mail from him after I had sent him a post card just talking about my life. This fucking scumbag has the audacity to send me back a love letter. Actually not one but two. He details how he hasn’t felt this way about anyone since his ex wife, how we could be together, how he’s just so in love with me. I don’t know why, but this experience really pissed me off. He had given me a few things too before I left which I just thought were friendly gifts, literally like a rock he found and stuff. But no. Apparently he thought he had some kind of fucking ownership over me or something

Sorry for the long post, I’m just so mad about this still. I told a bunch of my friends and even my family and they just laughed it off, like it was some silly thing. Even my FEMALE friends and family didn’t see an issue. I’m just so pissed off. You don’t get to know me just to turn around and act like I’m a weird prize.

Tldr: weird old guy sent me a love letter and I got mad about it.

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u/midnitedaze — 20 hours ago
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Why do some men shame an 18 year old grown adult woman for not looking like she did when she was a child? This is what real toxic incel culture looks like

u/haroldson101 — 1 day ago

I saw a clip from some podcast earlier and it pissed me off.

The woman was going off on feminist talking about “if women want to be equal why don’t they go out and do the hard jobs men usually do”. Women can do the jobs men do but in male dominated spaces like that they are far more likely to be sexually assaulted. Also if women tried to do more male dominated jobs they get treated as less capable. Even if they were not physically capable of doing the same jobs that doesn’t make them any less human and the fact they do so much work that doesn’t get recognized or appreciated. She spoke from a place of such bitterness and hatred like girl without feminism you wouldn’t even be allowed to give your opinion as a woman or vote. Pick me women are honestly worse than misogynist men because they should know feminism has benefited women greatly and if not for it there would be a lot of things she couldn’t do.

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u/Miserable_Cobbler_18 — 18 hours ago

I am genuinely appalled after reading these comments

I was watching this instagram reel where the creator had written this "he wouldn't think about cheating if all his needs were met" weird. none of my needs were met and i had no problem staying faithful.

And these comments from this particular user left me appalled and speechless. He literally confessed having a wife and kids and then also cheating on his wife when he finds a "side tail". I can’t believe this. I am sure he is 100% lying about his wife knowing or even having a family. I can’t believe there is a woman who would stay with someone so low like him. Even self-proclaimed not feminist woman have standards. He had the audacity to blame it on biology. Like come on... just say you have zero self-control on yourself and are a piece of shit.

And this comment that women want 10% of men so he is save... what a narcissist. He thinks he is one of those 10% men that we want. Like come on, dude. How delusional you have to be? Calling other women he cheats on his wife side tail. I can’t even. I reported his id but I am sure instagram wouldn't take it down as usual. He also had his account private as he didn't want others to see his wife... or more like tell his wife his cheating habbits so he doesn't get caught.

Morever, the replies are so disappointing and not fierce. I wanted someone to bash him good. Others atleast tried, I am sure they were also speechless to reply to bullshit like this.

I can't believe. I am baffled. He is the prime example of someone who NEEDS therapy. Like, please... go to therapy dude.

u/Fiction_lover08 — 1 day ago

Meta is profiting from paid advertisements promoting child sexual abuse material on Instagram in India

Meta is profiting from paid advertisements promoting child sexual abuse material on Instagram in India, an investigation from the World Service has found. Despite policies prohibiting such material, the BBC identified paid adverts containing sexually explicit and suggestive content involving children. Meta acknowledged its ad review process may not detect all policy violations, but denied knowingly targeting ads featuring child exploitation to users. Meta told the BBC they fight child exploitation on their platforms, remove ads that violate their policies, and report such content to the authorities. It said they had removed content flagged by the BBC and denied prioritising revenue over user safety. Hours after our investigation was published, the Indian government said it had summoned representatives of Meta over the adverts

u/paniiiipuriiii — 1 day ago

“Girl Power” sub supports the sale of women’s bodies

I’m all for the exploration of sexuality… but why tf are so many people ok with prostitution especially when so many reports EVEN IN EUROPE have found that women are coerced into sex?? In my opinion, prostitution is paid rape especially when the majority of women are unable to find employment elsewhere and face both economic and social barriers that do not make them on the same level as their buyers. This is upsetting to have a sub be so fucking libfem and to see women be in support of this. I don’t even know how to process what I’m feeling but I just HAD to share this with you all. WTF!! So much research has come out about how even in “legal” settings, it does not help with the issues it claims to solve. It’s bad enough when men support this but it always hurts more to see women going right along with it.

u/Appropriate-Dust2022 — 3 days ago

The way the woman from the Electric Forest incident is being treated is horrifying

To start, obviously what she did was wrong. Leaving a full term alive baby where it was? Completely wrong.

BUT. We don’t know her situation. We don’t know what happened. Nobody of sound mind body and soul is giving birth in a toilet. None. If you are sane, that’s not happening. She had to have been unwell. Maybe it was a cryptic pregnancy. Maybe she was being trafficked. Maybe she was raped. Maybe she has an intellectual disability.

The way people are demonizing this mother who made a mistake is horrifying.

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u/chill_mydude13 — 3 days ago

Men are definitely not insecure about their height to the point that a multi billion dollar industry can profit from it.

For context, there is a huge trend of men creating new insecurities for women because apparently they are not insecure enough about their appearance. Even though women are more likely to spend time on their appearance, the beauty industry is a multi-billion-dollar industry that solely stands because of women's insecurities. Women are getting beauty procedures left and right. It's expected for the average woman to do her hair, makeup, skincare, nails, shave, etc., etc. But women having a preference for guys to be taller than them is treated like a war crime. Guys also prefer women to be shorter than them, can all tall women change their height? If men were actually insecure about their height collectively, they would be the ones wearing heels or inventing cheaper and safer option for increasing height. But no It's in the end of the day women who are going under knife.

u/TearMuted8403 — 3 days ago

I’m sick of people acting like SW is cute and quirky and fun

I’ve done sex work for survival. It’s horrible. It’s awful. You are seen as sub human and just something for them to pay and fuck.

SW isn’t cute or quirky or fun. If you enjoy it, good for you! But don’t tell women to go to sex work because “it’s freeing” or whatever bullshit you’re spreading. And unless you’ve done SW for survival, you don’t know how much it hurts.

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u/chill_mydude13 — 4 days ago
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World Cup players who have rape allegations

Clearly, “accusations don’t ruin careers”. Also, Ronaldo actually admitted to rape in leaked court documents!

u/Zeldaish — 4 days ago

guys straight up calling victims of grooming "lucky"

its genuinely so sad. "why does no one care about male victims" this is how you treat each other!! this is disgusting!

u/Mysterious-Win2091 — 3 days ago

i am tired of feminists using the term misandry to identify themselves, we shouldn’t be giving such a term exposure.

i’m sorry but i don’t recognise misandry as a valid concern, because when men are violated it’s not because they are men, and they cannot be discriminated against FOR BEING MEN when they have been the historical enforcers and benefiters of the patriarchy. men can certainly experience violence too and this obviously isn’t okay: i do not encourage such acts, but automatically accrediting the issue to ‘misandry’ is ignorant. men will hate women and be misogynistic because they believe women as a whole are deficit when this isn’t the case, and they will commit violence against them, like femicide. the term came about in response to feminism, and is often used in anti feminist rhetoric. the patriarchy is still largely prevalent today.

now that we’ve established that, WHY ON EARTH are FEMINISTS giving this term exposure?? they’re doing more harm than they think, and honestly are converting more men to anti feminism because they can point out how ‘oh, this is a misandrist’. once again, misandry is men complaining that women are no longer these subservient possessions they can exploit via unpaid domestic labour and child rearing. misogyny results in the murder and assault of innocent women, a historically marginalised group. men simply cannot be oppressed when referring to the patriarchy specifically when they are, once again, the benefiters and enforcers of said system. misogyny is more of a concern because women haven’t even achieved international legal equality, the bare minimum, yet. social equality is a whole other story.

now to reiterate, violence against anybody is absolutely unacceptable. i will advocate for anybody, no matter who they are, if they have been treated with any less dignity than a human should deserve, which certainly includes male victims. my ideal world is a world where nobody is a victim of evil and suffering by the hands of someone else.

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u/mxxnlyte — 5 days ago

Just left this sub because apparently not wanting to support someone who is a fan of an abuser makes you ridiculous

I was in a movie fandom sub for a while (you can probably guess which one, I'm only covering the name because I have to) and I was already getting tired of it because it was full of incels and misogynists who defended the villian (who did not respect his crush's autonomy and raped her btw) with their lives and called his crush a psycho and a bitch and a bunch of other horrible things. But this was the last straw.

First of all, it is completely reasonable to not like someone because they support an abusive man (she did not like only one post btw, it was many). Full stop. Supporting a real life abuser is not some minor fucking thing that reflects nothing about your morals. On the contrary, it says a LOT about you as a person. And it is especially reasonable when that person starred in a movie that has themes about male entitlement, consent, and autonomy.

Second, CANCEL CULTURE IS NOT REAL AND IT NEVER HAS BEEN. We have never lived in a society that is so triggered by injustice that it overcorrects by deplatforming anyone that does something slightly bad. No one has ever been "cancelled" even for doing absolutely horrific things. Chris Brown beat the shit out of Rihanna and got her beaten face tattooed on his neck and he's still selling out concerts. James Charles is a pedophile and shits on the working class and he still has millions upon millions of followers. JK Rowling is insanely transphobic and has an entire organization dedicated to making trans people's lives harder and she's still making millions of dollars off her books and movies. The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is a rapist and a pedophile and was mentioned in the files thousands of times and is still sitting in office. So everyone who whines that this is "cancel culture" - or that any online criticism is "cancel culture" - is a fucking idiot and has no sense of reality outside of what red-pilled men say.

It is completely normal and reasonable to care about an actor's opinions when you consider yourself a fan of that person and that does not make you fucking parasocial. In fact, it would be idiotic if you didn't care. Blindly supporting someone and not caring about what they think or have done makes you a dumbass. But I guess to these people if you're a great actor all of the horrible shit you do doesn't matter. Everyone loves Brad Pitt, for example. Yeah he abused Angelina Jolie but he's a great actor so none of that matters, right?! Johnny Depp abused Amber Heard and threatened to rape her with a bottle but he's a great actor so none of that matters, right?!

You'd think a sub for a movie that hates rapists and misogynistic men would be a safe space for women, but nope, there's always going to be fucking men who ruin it. If you're also a fan of that movie, and especially if you're a woman, do yourself a favor and stay far away from that sub.

u/AirportOk8750 — 4 days ago