r/FeministsCallItOut

I was watching PBS (Public Broadcast Station in the US, which is free TV you can watch via antenna) and a show about yoga came on. The host was a woman and others in the background were all women.

The theme was yoga for intimacy and it was framed as something good to do for your husband as you age and stop feeling as sexual. 🤮

One of the ladies in the back of the room came forward to the host and she was older, probably late 60s or early 70s. She said she was interested in the yoga because at night she enjoys playing scrabble on her iPad but her husband would rather her have sex with him instead of playing scrabble. I immediately felt so sad for her.

I found the framing of everything so weird, like you need to put in the effort of doing yoga to please someone else, not because you have your own sexuality. I was disappointed in it because typically PBS shows are either neutral or left-leaning.

Anyway that's my rant and disappointment for today. 😞

Feminists should fight against patriarchy. Feminists should fight against the objectification and dehumanization of women. Feminists should represent women. Period!! That's in theory, of course!

However, in practice, things are quite different. What I see most are "feminist" women acting like fools, without self-love, without a sense of self-preservation, without any common sense. Fools seeking male validation. Fools seeking relationships with men. Fools seeking "gender roles," even though that's what has most harmed female autonomy.

"Feminists." They are not. They never will be. I call them fake feminists, women who claim to believe in female independence and autonomy while acting like the foolish conservative women, those who are the worst side of our gender. Both are actively, even if they never admit it, fighting in favor of a system that oppresses, dehumanizes, and objectifies women. A system that teaches men that they have a "right" to women's bodies, consent, and autonomy, and that if women don't give them this, they can take it from them by force. Seeking to satisfy male depravities further encourages them to believe they have this "right" over women.

And this ends up affecting those who have nothing to do with it. It ends up affecting women who want their rights, autonomy, and freedom. How? You ask. I say: these men will believe that these independent women are just "playing hard to get," that all it takes is "a little push for them to discover what they want"—I don't need to say how dangerous that is. Believe me, I wouldn't care at all about relationships between men and women if it didn't have collateral effects on me or other women. But no, the real world isn't the ideal world.

And I don't even need to talk about the violence rate, right? It goes without saying that men close to women are the ones who most often commit crimes of sexual violence, murder, assault, and so on, right? Not having a relationship with a man means a much greater chance of surviving, of not being abused, raped, or assaulted. But no, female stupidity truly knows no bounds, and they even humiliate themselves by being with men. It's hopeless.

"Ah, but without men and women relating to each other, society would collapse and the species would end."

If this species cannot flourish and perpetuate itself in a way that women are not targets of objectification and dehumanization, then let it end. Once and for all.

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It's like Sophie's choice, but somehow, easier.

Most so called, “feminist” do not even look into the history of all the accomplishment that women made to better the lives of others. The surging debate about whether women who wear makeup are conditioned into wearing makeup or do it only because the patriarchy made them is genuinely hypocritical and shows you the overall mindset of feminists now.

The meaning of feminism has been translated many times

• For more equality, vengeance and for men to repay.

• For just equal standing and rights

• Watered-downed by feminist themselves because of men who’re threatened.

Talking about this in reddit isn’t a good idea! Especially since I’ve noticed that a lot of people here enjoy to pretend they’re wise and morally superior but they’re just copycats who’re a brick at listening so I expect a lot of topic drifting but my reasoning for this post is that—

A woman saying she wears makeup for herself is genuinely for herself. It does not mean she is ‘conditioned’ by the patriarchy.. Makeup is a form of art an expression and outlook to the soul. Makeup is a hobby and something that brings joy.

A woman who says she does do it for other people isn’t a bird or the only one telling the truth. Her acknowledgement of it shows that she’s confident rather than “less” because she does in - fact dress-up for others. The reason why I explain this so vaguely is because quite frankly there’s many reasons for why a woman would do it for others and shouldn’t be limited to just one POV

A woman who does do it because she recognizes the difference of privilege and attention she receives isn’t someone you should shame and tell her to deconstruct the idea of especially if that’s their safety. This shouldn’t be an invitation to tell them that they should stop using it as a safety and embrace harm because I believe that’s just putting little effort into actually trying to deconstruct the idea that a man should treat a woman less because she’s not painted.

The feminist that I noticed are misogynistic themselves will now be referred as terfs (Ik what a terf is) but I believe that being a feminist is already viewed as very threatening then it already is so I’ll use terf because it’s a group I do not agree with.

Clearly, terfs do not understand the history of women but rather are blinded by wrath and rage which I find it reasonable but the outcome and actions that stems from it is not and just completely disregard the r-pe movement that feminists made.

“What were you wearing?” is the equivalent as asking, “Why are you wearing make-up?”

Because the over all point here is that to enjoy yourself in a aesthetic in which you’ve found your identity is — is supposedly not for you… yet rather because the patriarchy conditioned you…? Wait let’s go back because as far as I know

Make-up is rebellious: Gyaru a form of make-up that rebels against the rigid beauty standards of japan

Make- up is political: Goths that fight against a corrupted government system & what not

Make- up scandalous: In ancient egypt, Make up was used a symbol of status between both men and woman and has always existed dated in the bible even. However, to wear make-up was for s$x workers and therefore shamed upon.

Make- up is self identity and it does not affect you, a ‘feminist’ or the overall movement of feminism. In-fact wearing make-up is the most rebellious and feminist form of action you could take. Because to wear make up meant you’re weak, a pig underneath, a clown, that you only care for your ‘appearance’ and that it’s the most girly thing you could ever possibly do.

Growing up, I was oppressed without ever knowing and I wasn’t alone when I said, “Unlike other girls! I don’t wear make up🙄” I wanted to be taken seriously. To be a tomboy was to be cool and therefore the best way to get attention appropriately even at the cost of rejecting myself … even when it came to me rejecting the femininity of other young girls like me. Wearing make-up was for bimbo girls and to be bare face was to be taken seriously but wait…? Haven’t we heard of this before ladies??

MEN who bash on women who wear makeup. Men who de-values a woman who wears makeup, men who prefers a woman without makeup because she isn’t “lying”.

Yes! This surge of terfs saying that makeup is something that a woman is doing for the male validation is red pilled in itself as it’s amplifying the idea that we want it and that we’re lying when we say it’s for ourselves and for our enjoyment.

Recently was going through my insta recommendations and stumbled uponed the profile of the guy who raped me two years ago. He seems to have a loving family consisting his wife and two kids. Like I sometimes see men whine and moan about women not being virgin and having past with other men. You know the typical slut shaming but imagine how many of these men have SAed or Raped women or children in their life and walking freely and living a normal life. These kinda men are the options left for average straight and queer women btw. I know an average woman was taught to have lower standards when I see or remember these kinda men exists I just feel very bad for other women.