r/MagnificentCentury

Im purely taking about show and not IRL history, I know in IRL history this brotherly love we see in the show probably didn't exist.

In the show Mustafa loves his brothers and keeps saying that he would die for them. And we all know Süleyman's preferred heir was Mehmed. If Mehmed were to survive and if Süleyman were to officially announce Mehmed as his heir (which he basically did anyways by assigning him to Manisa) would Mustafa accept that ?

Mustafa was fiercely and "lethally" loyal to his father, even when walking to his death he didn't betray his father. So would he accept his fathers wishes and accept his brother as the ruler ? Or would he revolt against that decision ? Or revolt against his brother after his father dies ?

In ep55 when Süleyman is on death bed, Mahidevran tells Hürrem that she won't let her die easily that Hürrem will witness her sons death first with a smile on her face. Hürrem might not be an angel but she was never this evil.

Edit: Wanted to clarify cause a lot of people seems to understand me wrong. Im not calling Mahidevran evil for wanting to kill Hürrem's sons, she basically has to do that because of the system they live in. I'm calling her evil cause she wants to keep Hürrem alive untill she witnesses her sons death then kill her, she tells this to hürrem with a grin on her face. THAT'S EVIL. Not because wanting to kill children cause a system forces you to, but for enjoying killing those children.

Hürrem tried to kill Mustafa too, and got successful in the end. But she never showed any sign of actually enjoying his death. When he actually died she was also sad for what she had to do, she felt guilty. When Mahidevran gets Mehmed killed, she never feels guilty.

The show needed a reason for Hürrem and Süleyman to be apart so Firuze can get together with Süleyman. But the reason they came up with was so annoying.

Hürrem wasn't that stupid to rush into that room. It serves no purpose, she is already the strongest woman in the harem and there is no one that she needs to show off to by getting the biggest room. And Süleyman would eventually let her move into that room anyways if she only didn't rush in there. She knew Süleyman wanted that room empty, for now at least. It was so annoying to see Hürrem make such a stupid decision that was out of character IMO.

Why do people act like Kösem was some sort of an innocent martyr of a woman who got murdered for doing absolutely nothing?

She never made peace with the fact that Murad grew up and that he was more than capable of being a sole monarch.. he warned her more than once about her meddling in his business, yet she never listened and kept on being involved in politics, making him more and more paranoid than he already was.. which led to Kasim's assassination and Ibrahim becoming more mentally unstable out of fear of being killed...

And when Ibrahim became Sultan, she did the exact same bs, and at the end, she literally let the janissary execute him even though she promised him that she will protect him (Salule for Atike and Ibrahim for calling her out on her bullshit btw).

Then, during Mehmed's reign, she created for herself a title that never existed, kept on being involved in politics till the point of kicking the sultan from the Divan and sitting in his place .. And of course, she ended up planning to kill her own grandson simply because she wanted Dilaşub who was more obedient than Turhan to become the new Küçük Valide, so she can keep on acting like the power-hungry that she is ..

I'm sorry, but she is the one who caused this upon herself. She was way too consumed by Power/Politics/ruling that she was willing to just kill a freaking kid HER OWN GRANDSON... If I were in Turhan's place, I would've done the same thing...

It was such a bullshit. Mahidevran disrespects Hürrem so she gets pissed and walks on her to demand her to be respectful then Mustafa intervines. All Hürrem tells to Mustafa is for him to stay out of this. But Süleyman makes Hürrem apologize to Mustafa as if she disrespected Mustafa.

It was Mahidevran that disrespected Hürrem even though Süleyman warned her multiple times to be respectful towards his wife. He should have called Mahidevran to make her apologize from Hürrem and teach her son that her mother isn't flawless and she should be respectful to Hürrem. As he reminded to Hürrem that he is superior to her, Hürrem is superior to Mahidevran, she can't disrespect her.

But nope, Süleyman makes Hürrem apologize for nothing basically and ignores Mahidevran's disrespect.

Also Mustafa you dumbass, Hürrem got pissed at your mother cause your mother was "accusing" Hürrem of planting Efsun by your side which you defended her against your mother too, so you and Hürrem are technically on the same side on this argument, but Mustafa is an idiot as we all know so whatever.

I'm on a rewatch, and I'm at the start of their erm...relationship?? And I lowkey feel like Nigar got the "love bomb them and make them believe you're gonna die without them and they'll do like...anything." from Hurrem. Its like she watched how Hurrem gave her heart and soul to the Sultan and got him to love and favor her and she's doing the same with Ibrahim, even though on his end it seemed like she was just convenient. She kinda made it inconvenient for him to not be with her with the whole balcony scene and then at that point Ibrahim (the narcissistic lil bitch) looooved how much Nigar was hooked/dependant on him. Maybe like how much Suleiman loved how much Hurrem loved him 👀

Valide said that she took care of the people that was guilty so everyone let go of it, later on she brings Fatma back to piss Hürrem off and Hürrem doesn't tell this to Süleyman. Why ?

By telling about Fatma and how Valide brought her back as a servant to Mahidevran she is basically shooting 3 birds with 1 bullet. Süleyman would probably burn Fatma alive or something like that. And he would get pissed at Valide and Mahidevran for protecting Fatma. Which all benefits Hürrem, why on earth she stayed silent about this ?

All she did was bully Fatma a bit and burned her face that healed in like 1 episode. And then let her be, she even became one of Mustafa's woman, she could have told Süleyman then let him know how they are mocking her by harboring the woman that burned her. Nope nothing, as if that whole burning thing never happened.

Also that whole Burning incident pisses me off with how Süleyman did nothing about it. Valide said she took care of it and he was fine with that even though he knew Valide started it. He should have fired every single cariye in the harem and get new slaves.

In season 3-4 once Hürrem took over Harem they act like Sümbül has been by Hürrem's side since the beginning, and as if he was her most loyal ally since the start. Absolutely not, Sümbül has always been mainly on the side against Hürrem, he is the reason that Leo got exposed, he is also part of the plan that ended up burning Hürrem.

It was Gül aga, Gülbahar, Nilüfer and Nigar (untill she fell in love at least) that was most loyal to Hürrem and they are the reasons that Hürrem got to where she is. They put in the work but Sümbül ended up enjoying the victory with Hürrem. He doesn't deserve it and it annoys me so much when I rewatch some scenes from earlier seasons.

The only thing that I can recall that Sümbül did for Hürrem (prior to season 4) was helping her get to Sultan but even that was done with bribery.

Hürrem should have taken Gül aga back once she took harem over, he deserved to be by her side, not Sümbül.

So, days ago, I learned that there is a concept in Islam called "Iddah", a mandatory waiting period that a woman must observe after divorce, the death of her husband, or the dissolution of a marriage before she can legally remarry (roughly 130 days in the case of a widow).

My question is: was this also applied to the women/concubines of a deceased sultan? For example, did the wives or concubines of deceased Ottoman sultans who later remarried also have to observe ʿiddah, meaning that they had to wait roughly 130 days before marrying again?

Basically the title. I can’t understand why anybody would bother watch magnificent century hating Hurrem the whole time…

(I’m talking purely about the show pov btw, no need for misogynistic nonsense about historical Hurrem pls!)

In my personal opinion, this is rather controversial, but i think it should be Ibrahim Pasha, because you know in history we can see he was spoiled by suleiman a lot and also he was never married to Hatice, in the show we get to see him being pardoned several times by Suleiman because of Hatice, other than that he seems to be losing track of his own ambitions and simply spiralling into a crybaby. I wish we could have got historical Ibrahim without the whole Hatice, Nigar mess