Y’all… can we go back to nuanced discussions please?

I’m sorry for pearl clutching but the subreddit has become very toxic lately with call-out posts, stalking, harassment and superfans of Hurrem / Mahidevran jumping on each other’s throats. Before someone shoots me, I have to say I’m not a hater of either lady if you guys haven’t seen my comments here already. What happened to the “be respectful” rule?

I miss the good old days when this subreddit was a refuge on the internet where the fandom centered heavily on power dynamics, complex character loyalties, and gender roles within the Ottoman imperial court.

What about some discussions on the acting? Or discussions around how a character challenges traditional patriarchal rules? Is it really difficult to say, hey, I’m not a big fan of this character but she seems like a complex, flawed human being who should be analyzed within the context of 16th-century political survival.

If you have an intense, obsessive hatred or anger toward a female character you really need to self reflect and see if it’s coming from misogyny or internalized misogyny.

u/Nanakurokonekochan — 8 days ago

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KNOCK OUT

I saw this recently on the TVD subreddit and it made me think of Magnificent Century, so might I ask:
Who are we taking out first?

Name the person you want gone. Whichever name is commented the most by (8:00PM EST) THURSDAY will be eliminated. We will continue until one person is left😈.

I would also like to know why their name was put down... if you don't mind😇.

u/BasHatunHyacinth — 8 days ago

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I’m only 4 episodes in, but HOW THE F*CK are these people still messing with Hürrem?

Her ring gets stolen → Süleyman loses his shit.
She gets beaten → Süleyman loses his shit AGAIN.

At this point the entire palace should understand one simple rule: DO NOT F*CK WITH HÜRREM. THE SULTAN LOVES HER.

And then Valide is out here trying to give her to some random fucking man like Süleyman is gonna be totally cool with it 💀

Like did everyone in the palace collectively lose their survival instincts? Do they genuinely not understand what the Sultan is capable of if he finds out?

Also, I swear to God, I hope that snake, crocodile looking, evil smile having bitch Mahidevran gets what’s coming to her. Every time she appears on screen I’m losing my shit

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u/albertcamusmaximusII — 9 days ago

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Hatice...

I remember that in a scene Valide was more worried about Suleiman getting the anger traits from Sultan Selim but she it turned out to be most in Hatice. She was literally becoming lunatic to a point where she forgot what Ibrahim did, neither did ask Suleiman the reason of executing nor realising the mistake he could have made. She literally saw his throne installed and sculpture. But rather went after Hurrem. The actress Selma played her role 🔥. In an interview Incan recall she also did some course in Pyschology maybe she took the role of Hatice considering her complex, fragile character. Daughters do inherit their father's behavior and Valide failed to notice that.

u/Sage_Geek — 8 days ago

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Same narrative all along!

Came across this comment on YouTube which was expected because everything thinks Mustafa was some saint who would have saved the Ottomans, and they still would have been ruling today, what a joke.

“When Hürrem entered the palace all peace was gone”, surely the Ottoman Harem and Palace was so peaceful before she came, Sultans didn’t kill their brother and Selim I didn’t dethrone his father at all! It’s all a joke!! An imagination of Turkish historians.

Why do people think Mustafa would be a better sultan than Selim, and calling him drunkard is as if any other Sultan didn’t drink, call him a womaniser when he only had Nurbanu. Where is the guarantee that Mustafa's descendants would be competent. People who say Ottoman Empire still would be alive today are delusional. Nothing lasts forever, if anything WWI would still happen and Ottomans will still side with Germany.

Mustafa lovers just have one argument for him that he was the best candidate for the throne, stop blaming the woman, when the man is responsible for the execution of his own son, I don’t even understand that most of Hürrem’s haters tend to be women, when she was surviving in a world where it was only men’s say. Surprisingly people even say that Ibrahim was great, and how Hürrem made him kill someone who was the closest to him, yeah right, Hürrem was Suleiman's WIFE, that’s literally more important than a prime minister or something.

u/Legitimate_Ride339 — 8 days ago

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What zoadic do you see Mahidevran as

u/Fun-Pen7592 — 8 days ago

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Magnificent Century Rewatch - Week 1, Episode 1 to 5 Discussion

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Season 1 Episode 1

Aired: January 05, 2011

Synopsis:

>Süleyman learns of his father's death and returns to Istanbul to ascend the throne. He arrives at Topkapı Palace with his closest friend, Pargalı İbrahim, and reunites with his mother, Hafsa Sultan, and Mahidevran Sultan, the mother of his son Mustafa. Meanwhile, Alexandra, a Ruthenian girl whose family and fiancé were killed during a Tatar slave raid, is brought to the palace. She rebels against the harem's rules but is persuaded by Nigar Kalfa to behave herself and pursue becoming a favorite of the Sultan. Alexandra catches Süleyman's attention, but Hafsa Sultan sends Mahidevran to his chambers instead.