r/NovatedLeasingAU

What is a good effective interest rate rule of thumb?

Just started shopping around - for a new SL7 premium over 5yrs. First 3 quotes indicate an effective interest rate of 10.9%, 12.6% & 14% from SPA, leaselab and paywise respectively. Should i keep shopping around? What do people say to get a better deal? Should i try any provider in particular?

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u/simonboundy — 5 hours ago

Quote check - I've hit the wall

Help.....

I consider myself a pretty smart person but I think ive hit the wall with trying to purchase a Jaecoo J5 EV through a novated lease. I'm getting to the point where I just want to say stuff it all and purchase the car with cash.

I've attached the final quote from the NL company that we have to deal with.

We aren't sure if im going to be at this place of employment long term so have chosen to use 1 year as a starting point.

The numbers for disbursements are my own based on my own research, and unless anyone has comment im happy to proceed on these figures.

I guess the issue I've got is we pay a crap load of tax (top band) and have been told the EV via a NL is one of the small ways to get a financial benefit, so here we are. I've been told the effective interest rate is 9.5% but for the life of me I can't seem to replicate that on the usual calculators.

Can anyone with a better understanding of these quotes help me clarify whether this quoted rate is correct and if not, what it is? Otherwise any red flags in the quote?

I guess as long as we are saving some money, then great, but the way these companies frame their product and set things out, is really leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

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u/Independent-Most-559 — 10 hours ago

Quote Check for PHEV

About to enter into a novated lease but have never gone through the process before. Have run the numbers through the calculator but unsure about what to include in the fortnightly lease payment. Although the quote is from NLA it is finance only, the lease itself is technically self managed one with Smart leasing. Do I use the fortnightly figure provided in this quote or do I use the figure calculated using the smartleasing/millarx figure. The effective interest from calculation is 9.44- 10.4% depending on the figure i used. Does anything else stand out?

u/Bryan0017 — 12 hours ago

Quote check on Geely EX5 Inspire

How does this quote look? We’ve provided our own insurance quote instead of what Maxxia offers. Thank you!

u/louloumagoo20 — 8 hours ago
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First time EV - thoughts on budgets

First time EV and NL.

We will be relying on public charging as we don't have off street parking.

We don't drive much during the week and so occasional long trips (Sydney to Canberra etc)

Last car had about 35k in 4 years so we probably average 10k or less a year sometimes less, sometimes more.

Thoughts on the budgets? Not sure what to allocate as we haven't had an EV before.

Vehicle is VW ID4

u/M87IM — 13 hours ago

zeekr 7x LR quote check please

Hi there,
Wanting to get an indication on if this is a good quote for a 36 month Zeekr 7X LR novated lease? I’m currently going on mat leave next month at half pay, but will be back full time after 12 months - so tax savings I’m assuming on year 2 and 3 of lease will be far greater. Any advice appreciated!

u/drosemvp2019 — 16 hours ago

Boxy 4x4 for fishing

Howdy,

Seeking advice on something suitable under the LCT/FBT limit. Prado, Denza B5 and B8 aren’t EV. Can’t find Ioniq 9 or Kia EV9 under the price and no dealer demos on offer. Can’t find a decent EV Ute (Hilux isn’t comfy and low range). Denza D9 is too ugly. Just want a boxy 5+ seater with a big boot for carrying long rods (rod cases 2+ metres) , fishing boxes, carts etc. Needs to be comfy inside. Subaru Trail Seeker isn’t big enough. Teslas are too low to ground and regen + cabin pressure made me queasy.

Any ideas?

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u/fatpms — 13 hours ago

Quote check, are they trying to get away with 15.5% effective interest?

Novated lease calculator link

https://novatedlease.guide/calculator/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=v2calculator&c=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

u/0tk — 1 day ago

How I think the ATO and Novated Lease Providers feel about eachother

Disclaimer: take it easy, it’s a meme/joke post.

u/intrasonic — 3 days ago

Quote check please

I ran the numbers a few days ago I think it came to 8.7% give or take.

I’ve never had a lease, and may not even proceed with a lease yet as I’m not sure if it even makes sense financially in the end, but the 46% tax rates killing me inside so thought I’d follow the rest and get it checked on here.

Thanks in advance.

u/CaptainCook90 — 2 days ago

Quote check: 2023 Polestar 2

Smart promised to price-beat an 8.99% effective rate from WhipSmart. However the Lease Calculator is returning an effective rate of 10.15% for their attached quote. Have I made a mistake with the Calculator, or am I being misled?

Also, I recently saw this post wherein u/flynnaj allegedly secured an effective rate of 7.71%. 😯 Any advice for reducing my rate further? At the moment, the total net cost for the car (including the residual, excluding running costs) is just shy of $40k, which was the upper limit of my budget... but I'd love to shave a bit more off if possible.

All suggestions appreciated. Thanks!

u/AlexOFyle — 3 days ago

Zeekr 7X Success 7.71%

A big thank you for all the smart individuals here especially novated lease guide and Millar X. After a few months of research and haggling I managed to get a very nice quote for my Zeekr 7X. Now just waiting for the car to arrive!

Effective rate 7.09% on novated lease calculator

  • Edit I had accidentally put GST NOT included in my residual figure and got my rate wrong

Fortnightly lease payment PRE-tax $572 after correction for 58month term.

https://preview.redd.it/gwu2r7tyhrah1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=aa215f6ce0a563e8c0ea62254bcef58833816806

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u/flynnaj — 4 days ago
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Convince me not to buy an EV on novated lease

I’ll start by saying - we don’t need a new car

2 adults and 2 kids aged under 5

We have two petrol SUVs
My income is $240k plus $20k bonus - expecting early $300k in the next couple of years.

Partner is going back to work part time, full time salary is $100k.

PPOR loan is $980k, valued at 1.25m
IP loan 560k, valued at $660k
Offset account $20k

I’m thinking to sell one SUV worth $20k that’s about to be out of warranty, park the money in the offset and get the Zeekr 7x on novated lease

Lease total would be in the $500-550 range per fortnight

We have solar and battery so expecting most of the charging will be done at home, probably using an EV plan for 8-12c per kw

I’ve done the novated lease guide calculation and we are either 3k better or worse off over the 5 years

Does it make logical and financial sense to do this? What should stop me or make me reconsider?

Edit: thank you to everyone, I see both sides of the arguments and in some ways people are right, $20k in offset is nothing if the primary job is lost etc etc.

Yes the tax benefits are unreal, but I might focus on paying down PPOR and bumping up our savings, and check if we’re in a better position next year before the rules change around NL and EVs

Thanks for all your input and taking the time to give me a reality check

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u/thedesignninja — 5 days ago
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EV charging claiming through Novated Lease

Has anyone managed to claim EV charging under a mixed setup for tax or novated lease purposes using both home charging and public charging like Chargefox/Tesla?

I am currently using a trickle charger at home, but I may upgrade to a proper fast EV charger later. If you are claiming actual costs, is there a practical way to track or see how much home charging electricity I have used with a trickle charger?

And if you have had a home EV charger installed, does the charger app give a clear breakdown of charging usage or costs that is good enough for tax records?

Would be great to hear what records, apps, or documents people are using, and whether their accountant or lease provider accepted it.

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u/GadgetLady1980 — 5 days ago

Quote Check! SG Fleet Quote for a BMW iX3

Looking for another pair of eyes on my quote. 48 months with a purchase price of $95286 d/a

I’ll likely be halving the tyre budget and removing roadside assistance. To me the rate looks pretty good but open to opinions. Thanks!

u/Sucks_to_Stux — 6 days ago

Smart Leasing - Dealer Network and Stock

After my stolen in early April and retrieved car was finally written off in mid-May I have been waiting for my employer to finalise their agreement with an NL provider.

Finally this week was told it is Smart Leasing. Since we have been carless since April I was ready to go. Knew what we wanted etc.

We have been approved for finance and told that my insurer defaults to lowest rate which is about 7.6%.

Today they said the car I want Volkswagen id4 pro isn't available until Jan 2027. My local dealer told me earlier in the week I should be able to get one within a few weeks.

I have sent the details to Smart but curious if it's common for their network not to have stock but stock to be available?

I don't want to have to keep waiting given all the waiting with police, insurance, my employer etc.

Any experiences with this. Also any tips on dealing with Smart appreciated. I was prepared with a finance quote from my bank but what they've said is what my bank was prepared to offer.

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u/M87IM — 4 days ago

Quote check

Hi all, quite new to NL. I’m in the market for a Tesla model Y LR. 3 year term. Seems bit steeper than I expected. Does this look reasonable?

u/Commercial-Cat-6133 — 4 days ago