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Should i play it
I'm thinking of starting Outlaws what do you think Should I play it
u/efane645 — 2 hours ago
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What "A prophecy that misread could have been" actually means
Every time I say that Palpatine’s return in The Rise of Skywalker ruins Anakin’s arc in Return of the Jedi, where he saves his son and eliminates the Emperor, fans insist that the Jedi were wrong. They claim that the true "balance of the Force" is a literal balance between light and darkness, and that Anakin brought balance by leaving the exact same number of Jedi and Sith alive at the end of Episode III. They defend this stance by hiding behind Yoda’s line: "A prophecy that misread could have been."
Alright, let’s break this down piece by piece.
George Lucas has stated across various media, such as the Prequel DVD documentaries, The Clone Wars audio commentaries, and The Star Wars Archives book, that the true essence of the Force is the Light, that the dark side is a cancer, and that Anakin restores balance to the universe by exterminating Palpatine at the end of Episode VI. Therefore, you cannot rely on the personal assumptions of other characters when the original creator of the saga confirms that "balance" means the absence of evil.
Having cleared up the most important part, what did Yoda actually mean by "A prophecy that misread could have been"?
Simple: everyone assumed Anakin would bring balance, but nobody knew exactly how.
In the final arc of The Clone Wars Season 6 (Episodes 11, 12, and 13), Master Yoda goes on a spiritual journey guided by Qui-Gon Jinn and the Force Priestesses. During his journey, Yoda must pass several spiritual trials to learn how to retain his consciousness after death and become a Force ghost, and what he discovers is crucial. He faces his own arrogance in the form of a "Dark Yoda," realizing that the Jedi were neither perfect nor free of flaws. In his final trial, he is given the chance to learn the true identity of the Sith Lord controlling the Senate and manipulating the Clone Wars (Chancellor Palpatine) before the tragic events of Episode III unfold. However, instead of giving in to the temptation of exposing Darth Sidious to save the Jedi Order from its imminent fall, Yoda chooses to forfeit that information. By doing so, he grasps the true meaning of the Prophecy; he understands that Anakin Skywalker truly is the Chosen One and that his destiny is to bring balance, which is why he chooses to save Anakin's life in his vision instead of letting him die. The Priestesses make it clear to Yoda that the Jedi Order will fall and that they will not win the current war. However, through their faith in the Chosen One, they will plant the seed for a greater victory: "Not victory in the Clone Wars, but victory for all time."
J.J. Abrams threw all this lore into the trash with The Rise of Skywalker. If Palpatine survived (or returned in a clone body), Anakin’s ultimate sacrifice in Episode VI to save Luke and destroy the Sith loses all its value. Yoda’s entire painful acceptance in The Clone Wars, where he lets the Order fall while trusting in a "victory for all time" through Anakin, becomes utterly pointless if the Sith threat was merely paused for a few decades. The Emperor's return is a cheap, improvised excuse by Disney solely to boost the box office, completely ignoring the fundamental rules of Lucas's own mythology.
So please, stop spamming that Yoda scene from Episode III out of context. Thank you very much.
u/Still-Willow-2323 — 6 hours ago
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I couldnt help myself and now I fear I've created a monster 🥲.... well any ways names for this monstrosity lol?
u/Successful_Let_1783 — 9 hours ago
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My super nostalgic Xennial and former prequel-hater review of the Original Trilogy
A New Hope:
These movies are basically impossible to talk about. What can anyone add??? Everyone knows the story, and the tropes it set up are in everything-- Harry Potter, Marvel movies, The Matrix, and the copies from the 80s like Spacehunter, Krull, Willow, Space Raiders, and Dragonslayer. Even if you find it dated, its impact on cinema is probably the same as the Beatles’ impact on popular music.
But even when I tried to push aside its historical importance as well as my own nostalgia and watch this with my critical brain, focusing purely on the story, the characters, and the action… I cannot say that this is not the best Star Wars.
This movie is like an act of God. It is so scrappy and so constantly on the verge of falling apart, and yet it holds together perfectly. The score is transcedent, the main trio of Han, Luke and Leia have all the energy in the world and look like they’re having a blast. Harrison Ford’s sarcasm is still funny and Carrie Fisher plays off of him perfectly, and I don’t think Mark Hamill gets enough credit as an actor-- he’s spectacular. Alec Guinness is also just incredible here-- my favorite scene on this rewatch was the twinkle in his eye when he turns to Luke and says ‘you must come to Alderaan’… he makes potentially dying in a war seem like so much fun.
I also like this Luke best-- he isn’t the cocky semi-unlikable 20-something of Empire or the kind of blank, cold, powered-up version in Return… he’s a wide-eyed innocent who isn’t angry or hateful after his family is killed and instead is just sad and suddenly determined to make the best out of his life. I love it so much.
So yeah... all I can do is shower praise on this movie, but I have to say that this time I put a lot of thought into how that gross furry eye that pops out of the garbage water is on another level. I think a lot of other movies would just have the python thing move past Luke’s leg before it takes him under, but that eye popping up is part of what makes it so refreshingly wacky and so easy to love.
To me, this IS Star Wars, and nothing that followed has ever been able to capture its charm. The sequels had more money and though I love them both, they don’t have the same spirit. Disney could never, ever, ever make a movie like this. Even Lucas himself couldn’t make a movie like this after he made it. This movie is an inspiration to aspiring filmmakers. It’s just so special and magical.
100/10
The Empire Strikes Back:
A ‘perfect sequel’ with a bigger budget, and it shows.Right off the bat everything looks more deliberate and more cinematic. It isn’t the scrappy labor of love that was A New Hope at all. I can't say much about it, because it's the freaking Empire Strikes Back-- the vast majority of people in this forum know every single frame of this movie inside out.
I might get crucified for this, but on this rewatch I found myself asking if the whole opening sequence with the Wampa was really necessary. It’s not a bad sequence, and it shows that Luke still needs help from his friends, but it’s sort of just something fun that happens before the real movie starts. A tighter script could have just started with the battle of Hoth and lost nothing. But I suppose it’s a nice way to ease us back into the world.
Also-- and maybe this has an answer-- I thought Han made off with heaps of money in A New Hope and had more than enough to pay off Jabba. So why didn’t he just do that right after the medal ceremony? Did the Rebels make him give the money back? Did he just not get a chance after everyone rushed to Hoth after the battle of Yavin? If he had just taken that money and paid off his debts, maybe he wouldn't have been frozen in this movie!
ESB is where the character development goes into overdrive, and Han and Leia are fantastic together (I can imagine Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford getting along really well in real life), and Mark Hamill makes Luke impetuous and borderline unlikable without being unrelatable… and ends up being punished over and over by this movie.
This movie definitely has a richer and more deliberate color palette than the first one-- the deep purples have great contrast with the oranges and bright whites, and Vader looks so much blacker and newer in this one.
I don’t think much else needs to be said. This didn’t top ANH for me on this viewing, but I think it’s probably better character-wise and it’s extremely well-made-- everyone loves it for good reason.
10/10
Return of the Jedi:
I was expecting to love this one because it was maybe the second movie I ever saw in a theater and the first Star Wars I ever watched, and at the time I loved it so much that on the car ride home, I asked my parents if we could go see it again. I think it might have been 1984 or 1985 when our family got our first VCR, and the guy who sold it to us was kind enough to hook two VCRs up to each other in his shop and make me a VHS tape of what I was told was Star Wars (WITHOUT COMMERCIALS!). Imagine my surprise when I got that tape home and it ended up being ALL THREE MOVIES!
I don’t think I had seen ROTJ since the theater… and wow was I ever excited. I had all 3 storybooks and the book and record sets, but ROTJ had just come out on video... and now I had my own copy! This was awesome because buying movies was sooo expensive and nobody had 2 VCRs... we had to wait for a movie to come on network TV so we could tape it, and if we were feeling bold, we would use the pause button to try to edit out the commercials in real time (this was always very stressful for me-- they would either have 5 commercials or 6 so on commercial 5 you had to have your finger hovering above the remote/pause button, and sometimes the TV station would forget to run the ‘and now back to the movie’ message so it was incredibly difficult to time it right and I never wanted to make a mistake).
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... and so with that blatantly nostalgic introduction, I am going to say that my love for this movie will never die… but watching this with a critical eye, it’s a really flawed movie.
We start with a semi-reference to ANH with the star destroyer seen from the bottom, but this time all that happens is an even blacker and more expensive-looking Darth Vader travels to the incomplete second death star and threatens an officer… and that’s it. That’s all we get.
We then get another ANH repeat with R2 and 3P0 walking through the Tatooine desert. But this time they are taken by Jabba and then put in yet another droid workshop-- worse than the Jawa one because it involves torture.
As this was the despecialized version, it had the original disco tune and not Jedi rocks-- and this time I really noticed the large lady with a skin and fur striped top… she just seemed like a normal lady hanging out with all the freaks and I always wondered what her story was and how she felt when George Lucas said ‘yeah, you belong with all of these freaks’. I also remember I used to think that Jabba actually turned his slave girl INTO the frog thing he ate when he said ‘BOSKA’ and opened the trap door to the rancor. Even when Luke fought the rancor later, I didn’t put it together. Maybe I thought if the rancor ate Luke, he also would have been turned into a frog thing and eaten by Jabba.
This whole opening sequence actually bothered me this time for how repetitive it was. It’s basically just one character showing up, getting captured, then another, then another, then another. If Chewie hadn’t gone with Leia, I have to wonder if they would have had him come in by himself and offer Jabba some meat or something. I don’t even know why they had Chewie come at all… he doesn’t do much and Jabba could have just killed him immediately.
And I really didn’t like Luke in this movie. He chokes some guards, makes some really dark threats and insults against pretty much everyone-- ‘This is the last mistake you’ll ever make’ and ‘Free us or die’? He doesn’t even kill Jabba in the end… was he just talking tough or did he really want to kill Jabba? I’m not saying Jabba is a good guy or anything, just that it seems like Luke seems kind of violent. Also-- why is he so confident here? He seems to have gone from being beaten up over and over to somehow being the most confident, death-threat hurling person in the room. You’d think he would be having confidence problems after the last movie.
I think what makes this nonsensical Han rescue work is the creature budget, slave Leia, and that fantastic series of musical cues right before they are to be thrown into the Sarlacc pit. I love how you get this succession of closeups of everyone-- confident and focused Luke, worried and focused Leia, and then Han looking clueless-- it’s funny.
The problem is that after this we get ANOTHER version of the same scene from the beginning of the film, only this time it’s the Emperor arriving and talking to Vader instead of Vader talking to an officer. Why do we need two nearly identical arriving at the Death Star scenes??? They aren’t even interesting… it’s just two guys arriving to the same place on the same exact kind of ship. I think the music is louder for the Emperor’s arrival, though.
Then we get a scene with Yoda dying in his super cozy-looking hut and another scene with Obi Wan that isn’t much different. I have no idea what Lucas was thinking here. Mark Hamill can do so much better than what he is doing in this movie.
I’m going to say it now-- the Ewoks are NOT the worst thing about this movie. They’re cute, they’re amusing, and the ‘Oh Yo’ chant is a funny thing to do with your friends whenever you're in the presence of greatness. They also give Harrison Ford a good foil for his sarcasm, which he really needs considering how Han is really not great in this movie, because after being rescued all he does is be jealous of Luke and protective of Leia. There’s not much witty banter between Leia and Han here at all… and there are a lot of really awkward scenes that feel like they should have been cut.
Anyways, after the cool-for-1983 speeder bike setpiece and the C3PO as a god stuff (which isn’t bad), Luke decides it’s time to surrender to Vader and when he is brought before the Emperor, he says soon they’ll all be dead-- why are you so negative now, Luke? Does becoming a Jedi make you kind of an insufferable jerk? All of those people complaining about The Last Jedi really need to watch this movie-- I genuinely think he is less likable here than he was in TLJ, the only difference being he’s also less interesting.
Also-- maybe I missed something, but why did the rebels even need spies to know the location of the shield generator when there are really very, very few options for this? How could it NOT be on the moon with the beautiful trees and breathable atmosphere that is literally right next to the new Death Star?
I’m really getting bogged down with all of these nitpicks at the moment but this movie has never fallen apart for me like it did on this latest rewatch, and I have probably seen this movie over 60 times. I guess that I have never actually thought about what’s actually going on and always just focused on all the crazy creatures and fun action setpieces and how much I love this movie despite all of it.
The space battle in front of the Death Star is impressive, but why don’t the rebels just go into hyperspace when they realize it’s a trap, then come back a few hours later when the shield is down? How are they ‘trapped’ when there’s no up or down in space and the imperial fleet is just a line of Star Destroyers?
Also, the final duel is great and the ending of the saga is fittingly climactic… but why did the Emperor keep telling Luke that he’s happy he’s turning to the dark side? Every single time the Emperor opens his mouth during the duel, Luke has a realization about what’s happening, stops fighting, and turns good again. Even after almost turning to the dark side completely after his rage-out, Palpatine reminds Luke that he’s turning to the dark side and laughs, giving Luke time to think about it and throw his weapon away. Palpy seems to have gotten really bad at turning people to the dark side since the prequels. I’m now convinced Luke would have gone dark if Palpatine had just put his feet up and read a magazine or gone to the can during this duel.
Meanwhile, back on Endor, I just love the way that random actor delivers the line ‘You rebel scum’. Of all the lines in this movie, this sort of generic insult somehow stood out enough for Rian Johnson to reference it at the climax of Finn’s arc in TLJ. I don’t even know what accent that is-- it sounds Eastern European or something… but it’s so perfect, so contemptuous… they should make a movie about that guy.
Maybe I was just Star Warsed out at this point, but I think I actually enjoyed The Phantom Menace more than this. I refuse to put any prequel above any original because I’m old and also I’m sure I just liked that I finally understood TPM’s plot, but unclouded by nostalgia goggles, ROTJ was a mess.
7.1/10 (only because I gave TPM a 7 and I can’t rank an OG episode below the prequels)
u/SpatulaCity1a — 8 hours ago
Reviews from my May the 4th rewatch Day 3: Revenge of the Sith
It's overall not controversial to say that Revenge of The Sith is the best of the prequels, and it probably is for a good reason. It is the most snappy, well-paced, thematically compelling, and tightly plotted of the three. One thing that stuck with me this time, is that Anakin's fall is better done than what I remembered. Palpatine is really good at isolating him, reading him like an open book, and using every move by the Jedi to prey on Anakin's flaws and turn him against his friends and allies. I noticed that Palpatine tries to make his evil choices morally palatable by saying that if the Jedi survived there would be endless civil war, all while implying that Anakin needs to kill them in order to immerse himself in the dark side to find the power to save Padmé, because what it's ultimately about. Anakin essentially gaslights himself into believing Palpatine in order to justify his selfish choices, although he remains conflicted and hates what he's doing, because a part of him knows he's messing up.
I generally like that Lucas doesn't hold back in making Anakin both sympathetic and a massive ass who is responsible for his own fall. I really don't like it when people infantilize Anakin into a hapless victim, when it's ultimately his arrogance, deeply seated greed, and inability to properly grow and address his demons and flaws that leads him down the dark path. I will also say that Battle of The Heroes is arguably the greatest lightsaber duel because it combines the emotional and thematic weight of the duels in the Original Trilogy with the visual spectacle of the Prequel Trilogy duels.
However, when it comes to writing issues, I'd say the goal behind the kidnapping of Palps from Dooku's perspective is very unclear if you haven't read the novelization. Also, I would've liked seeing Obi-Wan attempt to bring Anakin back more, since RotJ sees Vader telling Luke "Obi-Wan once thought as you do". Obi-Wan does attempt to reason with Anakin before and during the duel, but it comes across as a bit half-hearted. Also, if I'm being honest, a lot of the dialogue is bad. I actually felt like TPM had the most natural dialogue writing of the three prequels, maybe because George took more time writing it.
Acting wise, Ewan was great and Ian hamming it up was a lot of fun. Christopher Lee was also great as always in his scene, and I liked Jimmy Smits as Bail Organa.
Final verdict: 7.5/10. A decent to good film, but a flawed and highly imperfect one. Next Up: Solo - A Star Wars Story.
u/AlphaBladeYiII — 9 hours ago
Death star
I build this with my father some years ago is this rare
u/Minimum_Poetry526 — 10 hours ago
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Canon star wars
Good day to all! I'm new to the Star Wars fandom, so I want to find out which works (books, movies, comics, TV series, games, cartoons) belong to the Star Wars canon and in what order to get acquainted with them? Before that, I watched all 9 films, as well as rogue one and Han Solo, the TV series Ahsoka and the Mandalorian, the animated series rebels, started playing the force unleashed, started watching (I watched only 1 episode) of the Clone Wars and listened to the retelling of the book about the "zombie virus"(black wing), and wanted to clarify what of this is canon?
u/Particular-Page-7889 — 1 day ago
My updated ranking with the Baby Yoda movie
1-2: Masterpiece
3-8: Pretty good
9-12: Okay
13: Pretty bad
u/GalileoDaCat — 1 day ago
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Need help introducing my sister to Star Wars
I’ve seen pretty much everything in Star Wars (movies, shows, cartoons), so I’m definitely a bit biased to some of the projects. Like I love the prequels, original trilogy and the mandalorian (the clone wars show is one of the best cartoons ever)
Now I’m trying to get my sister into it, but I’m a bit stuck on the best way to introduce her without overwhelming her or messing up the experience.
For people who’ve introduced others to Star Wars. What's worked best for you?
u/New-Opportunity5706 — 2 days ago
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Second Star Killer Helmet
I have finally gotten the time to make a second Star Killer helmet, and after finishing this one I was able to compare this one to the previous. I was so proud of the first one and can’t even begin to describe how different the finish quality is between the two. It’s incredible what a little elbow grease will do
u/LuminaCraft — 1 day ago
Why is this the case for these characters?
While I don't expect the iconic status to surpass Darth Vader, what still baffles me is this...
I'm surprised Zeref Dragneel (Fairy Tail) doesn't get the same kind of love from his fan base as Darth Vader, even though Zeref is even more morally nuanced and complicated than Vader. Like, even more so than more well-known complicated anime villains and even villains from like The Legend of Korra (except Unalaq of course), Zeref surpassed the complicated aspect further.
Darth Vader is a full-fledged villain who committed actual genocide, so much of it too (though he was humanized so much to make his personality incredibly tragic and complex), with the Prequel Trilogy (even with its flaws) and the Clone Wars having deep-meaning, grounded storytelling surrounding politics and all, with Anakin's tragedy being a very elaborate arc that showcases his fall to the Dark Side in a very heartbreaking way, and even as Vader, he was a very mysterious and enigmatic figure who is broken deep inside.
With Zeref, he lied that his plan was to use Fairy Heart's infinite power to kill Acnologia in the current timeline while committing one-sided annihilation/extermination on Ishgar; it was only a false objective to prevent the Springgan 12 from finding out his true plan, because even if it is complicated, there is little to no chance they would accept this plan, and it would lead to more complications for Zeref, which he wouldn't want. He also lied as far as one-sided annihilation especially because of his relationship with Mavis, because they knew each other too well (part of Zeref's regrets ever developing his relationship with Mavis), and that would lead to betrayal from the Springgan 12 in case Mavis potentially hint to her allies (which would lead to the Springgan 12) the actual true plan of Zeref during the Alvarez Empire Arc, especially considering Mavis' equally deep thinking. We all have to remember that Zeref cannot fight at his full potential even when he tried controlling his curse (shown from he struggles to use his power even against characters much weaker than him); this is why he needed the Springgan 12 to initiate the plan, because his true objective values life deep inside. The truth is... he wanted to use that power to reset the timeline before he got cursed by Ankhseram, to prevent Acnologia from becoming as powerful as he is now, with Zeref and Natsu ending him in the past. Once Zeref resets the timeline, he can relive his life once more and will retain his memories from the original timeline, so that he will know what he has to do to ensure humanity has a future while keeping its balance, and he will avoid his fate of getting cursed, as he never wanted to be a problem for anyone and that he will finally be there for humanity if no one can end his suffering.
What motivated Zeref was his fear and concern for human life. After failing every attempt to die (which includes Mavis' insufficient love for him and the fact that Natsu is a failed experiment to kill him), Zeref chose to spring into action, as anything involving Zeref's cursed body could potentially lead to the extinction of mankind or worse, and considering how his curse is connected to his feelings and mental state, Zeref is afraid of how his power could reach unstable levels if he's too far gone and how much life he'd end up killing (a fate similar to Future Rogue's timeline), and it's brought down further by how sinners or even just mentally blind people tarnish his name (a natural thing that can happen to one with a curse like this, since there are people who heavily victimize those going through this kind of suffering), leading to much of humanity rejecting him in every way possible, even ones involving conflict, violence, and especially complications from misunderstandings between him and good guys who don't know who he truly is (only worsening Zeref's state in the process), that along with how Zeref had to witness humanity's mindset subverting its sense as years went by. This means Zeref's isolation isn't gonna help him forever, and he's worried about how much time he has left before it's too late.
Zeref Dragneel... actually has the reputation of being one of anime's most forgotten but complicated antagonists (sadly). Oddly enough, Zeref's character was even more positively received outside of Fairy Tail fan base, with people saying he's an amazingly written character in the wrong series (not to mention the wrong kind of fan base), someone who deserves to be in an anime as passionately written as him, like his whole arc.
[Zeref actually has an article in Incredible Characters Wiki that thoroughly analyzes 99% of his character, and this is especially helpful for those who still get confused by how deep his personality is.](https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/wiki/Zeref\_Dragneel)
u/True-Temperature138 — 1 day ago
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[THEORY] The Real Reason Luke Kept the "Skywalker" Name: It Wasn’t a Plot Hole, It Was Owen’s Tribute to Shmi
DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT SURE IF THIS THEORY HAS BEEN PUBLISHED BEFORE BUT I CAME UP WITH IT MYSELF SO IF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN PUBLISHED SOMEWHERE PLEASE NOTIFY ME IN THE COMMENTS
While it seems to be one of the most famously debated "plot holes" in the entire Star Wars saga, in my personal opinion, I believe it is a rather touching detail (despite 99.99% sure not being intended but I like how it turned out to be). The “plot-hole” runs like this: if Obi-Wan and Yoda genuinely wanted to hide Luke from the wrath of Darth Vader and the Emperor, why on earth did they allow him to keep the last name "Skywalker" while placing him with Vader’s own stepfamily on Tatooine?
While the standard in-universe justifications usually rely on the idea that "Skywalker" is simply a common surname in certain sectors of the galaxy, or that Owen Lars was just an incredibly stubborn farmer, I prefer believ in a much deeper and more emotionally resonant explanation within the lore of Attack of the Clones. When you look at the psychological landscape of the Lars family, it lets me think that Luke’s surname wasn't kept out of carelessness, but rather as a deeply personal, stubborn tribute to Shmi Skywalker (though I might be a bit biased because of how hard her death hit me, i literally was shocked three days later unable to digest the scene 😅😅)
To understand why Owen Lars insisted on keeping the name, we have to look at what Shmi meant to his family. Cliegg Lars did not buy Shmi to keep her as a laborer; he bought her freedom, emancipated her, and married her out of genuine, profound love. To Owen, Shmi was not a stranger; she was a beloved stepmother who brought warmth to a harsh desert home. Her tragic, brutal death at the hands of the Tusken Raiders was a massive emotional trauma that shattered the family (literally driving Anakin to the Dark Side and I don’t blame him for that), and they cherished her memory deeply long after she was buried near their homestead.
Furthermore, Owen Lars harbored a bitter, deeply justified resentment toward the Jedi Order. From his perspective, the Jedi were a distant, uncaring elite who had abandoned Shmi to a life of slavery on Tatooine (because despite Qui Gon‘s bargain I think he could have done much more honestl), took her only son away, and (at least as far as Owen knew when Obi-Wan showed up on his doorstep with a newborn baby) ultimately got Anakin killed. When Obi-Wan handed Luke over, Owen’s immediate instinct was to completely sever the child from the Jedi world. He refused to let this newborn be dictated by the rules of the late Republic or the tragedies of the Clone Wars.
Choosing to raise Luke as a Skywalker was Owen’s quiet, defiant way of keeping Shmi’s legacy alive in their home. It was an act of love for the kindest woman he had ever known, ensuring that her name wouldn't be wiped from the desert sands.
This emotional decision ended up creating the perfect psychological camouflage, protected by two massive blind spots that the Jedi Council could never have engineered on their own. The first was the Imperial blind spot: both Vader and Palpatine were absolutely convinced that Anakin’s unborn child had died with Padmé on Mustafar. Because they believed the lineage was entirely extinct, Imperial intelligence was never actively flagging or scanning the galaxy for the name "Skywalker." To the Empire, any "Skywalker" on an outer-rim registry was just background noise, a meaningless coincidence until they felt the legendary “disturbance in the Force”
The second was the geographic blind spot. Tatooine was the epicenter of Darth Vader’s ultimate psychological trauma. It was the planet of his childhood enslavement, where he met Padmé (which I like to call ”the assassin of the republic“ as all her choices inadvertently hit another nail in the Republi’s coffin 🤣) the place where he failed to save his mother, and the site of his first horrific descent into the Dark Side. Obi-Wan and Yoda knew that Vader loathed his homeworld with such intensity that he would emotionally block it out entirely, never willingly setting foot on its surface or looking at its impoverished population.
Ultimately, I believe that Luke keeping his name wasn’t a tactical blunder by an old hermit living in a cave. It was a beautiful narrative symmetry. Luke did not only carry the name of the fallen Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker; he carried the name of a resilient, kind-hearted slave woman who started the entire saga. By honoring Shmi, Owen unwittingly hid the galaxy's greatest hope in plain sight.
So, I wanted your thoughts guys 🤔 Do you agree or do you insist that it’s an irreconcilable artifact of Lucas’ late decision to make Luke Vader’s son? Would love to hear from you 😁
u/Iraqimedstudent — 2 days ago
Reviews from my May the 4th rewatch Day 2: Attack of the Clones.
Overall, I'd say TPM and AotC have roughly the same quality, although they have different strengths. TPM is a bit simpler, and more charming, fun, and endearing. AoTC swings higher, but misses more. It's stronger characterization wise, particularly regarding Anakin, Obi-Wan and their complicated relationship, although Anakin is tough to evaluate. He's three dimensional and a believable product of his upbringing, while also being tragic and somewhat sympathetic. You can tell that he is good at his core, but he's also deeply flawed and poorly adjusted. While he can be grating, I think he's more well-written here than he's often given credit, and exactly the type of person who could turn into Vader. Obi-Wan serves as his foil: disciplined, dutiful, pragmatic, never lets emotions get in the way of the mission, and still overall heroic, while being flawed in his own way.
I do believe that people exaggerate the tensions between Obi-Wan and Anakin in this film. Anakin is essentially in his teenage dirtbag phase, and thinks he's hot shit. Obi-Wan can be tough, but he still gives due praise, and is largely trying to keep Anakin humble and on the straight and narrow. It can be argued that doing otherwise would be babying Anakin and further feeding his insecurity driven ego, that we see Palpatine stroke.
The relationship between Anakin and Padmé is definitely the weakest part in terms of character writing. They have some cute/sweet moments, but it's hard to believe that someone as mature, intelligent and dutiful as Padmé would fall for someone who is very much not ready or well-adjusted like Anakin. I don't think she should hate him for the Tusken massacre, but it's a massive red flag. The romance is overall kinda rushed and lacks chemistry, and some of the dialogue is infamously cringe.
I'll say that the Battle of Geonosis, while not great, is still better than the battle of Naboo, although Threepio's humor in it is an example of the tonal whiplash that GL somewhat struggled with since RotJ. Acting wise, I'd say Ewan was good and so was Sir Christopher Lee, but almost everyone else is meh at best this movie. The Tatooine segment was actually my favorite part of the movie.
As for writing issues, I'd say maybe we should've gotten more of the Jedi questioning the clone army given its shady origins and Jango's involvement. Further fleshing out the separatists and Palpatine's machinations would've been nice as well. Some of the dialogue was also cringe af, and I actually think TPM had stronger dialogue.
Final verdict: 7/10. Next up: Revenge of The Sith.
u/AlphaBladeYiII — 1 day ago
Thoughts from my May the 4th rewatch Day 1: The Phantom Menace
Honestly, I feel like I enjoyed TPM a bit more this time around, especially the Tatooine sequence. Writing wise, it suffers in the character development department a bit, especially compared to ANH, but I do believe it's more tightly written than people give it credit for. The main writing problems are Qui-Gon taking Anakin to a combat zone for no reason and that we could've used more context about the legalities of the blockade and the trade federation goals. Also, the Battle of Naboo is kinda medicore because of Jar Jar antics and Anakin blowing up the ship largely by luck.
The dialogue isn't as good as in the OT, but outside of some cringe lines, it's not as bad as people say. Qui-Gon is probably the only one with a personality though, although I'll say AotC and RoTS fix that problem. The acting is very stilted sometimes, but Liam Neeson largely carries. Some delicious hints from Ian McDiarmid's performance as well. Jake Lloyd is underrated imo. Also loved Pernilla August.
Overall, a 7/10 from me. Next up: Attack of The Clones.
u/AlphaBladeYiII — 2 days ago
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Which order should I watch Star Wars in for the first time?
Hey everyone!
This will be my first time watching Star Wars and I've seen people recommend Release Order, Chronological Order, and Machete Order. Google also suggested those three so I'm having a hard time deciding.
For someone who's completely new to Star Wars, which order would you recommend and why? Also which order did you watch it in for the first time?
u/Alarming-Error4946 — 3 days ago
Clone Trooper names i've been putting together for a few years now. Any new ideas let me know.
Clone Names:
Click
Poltergeist
Ghost
Common
Split
Snatch
Shadowcase
Skystriker
Longshot
Trench
Zopper
Speaker
Axer
Veron
Stack
Dar
Setback
Galix
Stain
Vanta
Clocker
Dri
Nex
Muck
Rattler
Stem
Airo
Longshot
Ryker
Ricus
Climber
Spin
Jog
Tripp
Zark
Seeker
Spooks
Sandtrap
Badcase
Skyline
Blacktop
Overcharge
Neat
Stacks
Switch
Clawd
Captain Skips
Lieutenant Skape
Sergeant Timins
Rackit
Shades
Turner
Raider
Snapshot
Sparky
Banner
Scafe
Buzzer
Baker
Wipeout
Stain
Luck
Glitch
Ghost Face
Captain Skips CT-3877
Lieutenant Skape CT-9270
Sergeant Timins CT-7291
Rackit
Turner
Snapshot
Spin
Sim
Sparky
Spook
Hash
Mow
Banner
Larz
Flin
Slack
Scafe
Spikes
Creaps
Splits
Stipler
Stack
Briggs
Liner
Buzzer
Slammer
Drops
Turner
Nade
Quick Shot
Loud Mouth
Dart
Mock
Scorn
Chape
Nosy
Brick
Baker
Thrill
Link
Chat
Wipeout
Norton
Stain
Luck
Shades
Raider
Glitch
Ghost Face
Captain Strat CT-7291
Lieutenant Burns CT-3124
Mock
Chase
Scope
Ironsight
Treads
Crossout
Backoff
Dice
Safeguard
Rev
Rax
Slicer
Ferno
Clorr
Niff
Comer
Silancer
Fischer
Lieutenant Knock Off
Lieutenant Forge
Lieutenant Spears
Lieutenant Razor
Lieutenant Blaze
Fischer
Bombshell
Red
Jax
Stunner
Spiff
Clash
Wiz
Blade
Dodger
Stinger
Chipper
Slider
Dagwood
Gears
Sowbal
Riggs
Ranger
Hardcell
Clipper
Carnage
Hawker
Flin
Aim
Bunch
Artwork
Buzzbomb
Click
Catcher
Clipper
Such
Hazard
Chatter
Glitch
Lieutenant Knock Off CT-4280
Lieutenant Forge CT-5404
Lieutenant Spears CT-5151
Lieutenant Razor CT-7105
Lieutenant Blaze CT-5918
Seargent Atlits CT-7892
Stunner
Icer
Drag
Flip
Red
Rook
Jax
Spiff
Clash
Soar
Wiz
Flic
Vile
Jokan
Flinch
Jub
Sentry
Clutch
Seek
Rampage
Slider
Sundown
Bogey
Viper
Spark
Scav
Scar
Slip
Clipper
Tomb
Hack
Clix
Blade
Dodger
Flanker
Trapper
Grave
Jax
Volt
Dal
Tipler
Edge
Shrap
Vigal
Pine
Stinger
Chipper
Slider
Dagwood
Gears
Bombshell
Sowbal
Chipper
Riggs
Ranger
Hardcell
Clipper
Carnage
Hawker
Flin
Chace
Whip
Aim
Bunch
Artwork
Buzzbomb
Click
Catcher
Clipper
Such
Hazard
Chatter
Glitch
Captain Snap CT-4231
Lieutenant Slip CT-7291
Grill
Ban
Boomer
Rock
Slash
Stream
Barns
Bark
Stinger
Sledge
Raider
Lieutenant Sighteye
Lieutenant Tomb
Sergeant Glit
Quake
Claptrap
Daymen
Wipeout
Skytop
Spun
Clip
Scar
Stryk
Prat
Skitter
Glids
Sonic
Snipe
Sab
Wrap
Trip
Liner
Viyl
Slammer
Topper
Chase
Sketch
Growler
Bite
Claw
Fields
Hill
Stock
Striper
Tumbler
Miles
Gravel
Ridge
Deadwood
Packer
Cliff
Signage
Gates
Strike
Edge
Blast
Firestorm
Slope
Gaze
Trench
Hobby
Poler
Sideway
Hider
Camo
Downward
Brush
Turner
Wall
Knockout
Chase
Brigs
Kickback
Shatter
Set
Moonshot
Angle
Hinder
DroidBuster
Strip
Slide
Clipped
Raam
Lieutenant Scrape
Braincase
Core
Blazer
Glak
Vladee
Stake
Raid
Spine
Clearshot
Char
Runner
Staple
Dead Weight
Hinge
Slam
Ramble
Hanger
Ledoc
Joris
Zakk
Noam
Modrin
Gill
Cutter
Crawler
Gears
Backtrack
Crunch
Torch
Rover
Roadside
Tag
Splinter
Clipper
Spinner
Sparks
Fake
Record
Split
Wideeye
Lieutenant Raider
Lieutenant Ryner
Commander Fang
Commander Sti
Commander Kar
Commander Tye
Commander Brinic
Commander Cable
Captain Dar
Grip
Tracer
Cormack
Tisdale
Kovar
Reflector
Lax
Venge
Vibe
Click
Chase
Jokin
Daze
Scrape
Grazed
Evens
Reload
Drobs
Ravadune
Mills
Dagger
Carter
Lancer
Knocks
Ironside
Screwball
Surge
Reaper
Viper
Stev
Strix
Blindside
Stinger
Boxer
Arrowpoint
Brimstone
Claw
Lodestar
Moss
Jard
Aftershock
Frostbite
Shrapnel
Deadlock
Dunken
Reed
Cords
Kell
Mirage
Ranger
Rapter
Peak
Chamber
Circuit
Torque
Kickdown
Downforce
Marshal
Leck
Chance
Keep
Spade
Chance
Keep
Knocks
Ironside
Dagger
Clone Pilots
Deep
Flyby
Crash
Claws
Scratch
u/The_Collector_Guy — 3 days ago
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“Star Wars Kid…now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time…a long time…”
u/Tanis8998 — 3 days ago
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Rebel Alliance Combat Medic?
Thanks to some great suggestions, it makes more sense to make her part of a MASH unit, not a combat medic. I also got some great ideas on how to make her uniform different from the other Rebel techs
u/XWAmovie — 2 days ago
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What order do I watch the Star Wars movies in
So I just watched the movies IV, V, VI then I, II, III. And now I feel like there's a thousand other Star Wars series and movies and I have no idea what I'm supposed to watch next lol
u/ThePinkDoe — 3 days ago
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Give a Grade on Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope
I'm going to do a series of polls on the Skywalker saga and Disney Star Wars movies. So the best place to start is the first Star Wars movie. A New Hope started this massive franchise known as Star Wars. This almost 50-year-old movie became an unexpected hit in 1977 and spawned one of the biggest franchises of all time. So, I want to know how well it holds up so many years later.
A New Hope is among my favorite movies and is still a classic.
u/ABarber2636 — 2 days ago