r/VeganActivism
If a Lion Kills, Is It Violence?
**🦁 A Lion Has No Choice. You Do. That Changes Everything.**
One day, while I was out for a walk with a friend who eats meat, she asked me a thought-provoking question:
*"Why do you think not being vegan is wrong? A lion hunts a deer. Violence exists throughout the food chain. So why is it any different when a human being participates in it?"*
It was a question I had reflected upon after listening to Acharya Prashant, and his explanation completely transformed my understanding.
The difference lies in **choice**.
A lion is biologically incapable of choosing to eat grass. Its body, instincts, and survival mechanisms determine its behavior. It acts according to its biological programming. In that sense, the lion is innocent. It does only what nature has equipped it to do.
Where there is no freedom to choose, the idea of violence becomes meaningless.
Violence begins only when there is a choice.
Human beings are fundamentally different. We possess intelligence, awareness, and the capacity to consciously decide our actions. Unlike other animals, we can question our instincts, examine our desires, and choose compassion over cruelty.
That is why only a human being can truly be violent or truly be nonviolent.
When we knowingly choose an action that causes unnecessary suffering despite having a better alternative, we become responsible for that choice. And that responsibility is what distinguishes us from other animals.
**Ahimsa (nonviolence)** is not merely about avoiding physical harm. It is the conscious resolve to make the right choice whenever a choice is available. It is an expression of awareness, compassion, and responsibility.
A life guided by right choices is a life of nonviolence. And a life rooted in nonviolence is a life lived in alignment with truth.
**Here is a question for every reader:**
**If nature has given us the freedom to choose compassion over violence, what justifies choosing the violence when it is no longer necessary?**
They won't play it and they've been vegan 33 years allegedly. Do you think my game that I made to bring awareness to the animals is "exploitative"?
I'd like to get a further idea of what kind of community this is please
Hi, I'm Earthling. I run a few vegan pages and I do lots of work for the animals. Yesterday I posted in here about r/askvegans and how my question "how can we as vegans navigate online hostility/censorship" was removed and I was accused of soapboxing and trolling vegans by the r/askvegans mod. I thought here would be a safe space to post about that story but apparently not. I will say the mods in here haven't yet taken public opinion and ran with it so I respect that and they've allowed me to speak, that means something to me. However, I've witnessed victim blaming, dogpiling, harassment and swearing in this group. Constant trolling and manipulation. I've never been in such a toxic space in my life between here and r/askvegans. Take my advice or leave it. This is a toxic community. I've never claimed to be perfect but I've never sat online and watched someone burn "for their own good". If this is what you want to represent then go ahead and hide the audit. Is this who we are as vegans? To be clear 15 people think I need to take it better when I'm treated poorly. Instead of wondering why a vegan mod would remove my question. Y'all are strange in here. Some exceptions and I love you for that. I don't think the mods need to alter anything, I just think many in here need a lesson on civility and fairness. Thank you.
Fantastic way to shut down carnists.
Step 1- Show them this news article where a man got arrested for raping a goat.
Step 2- Ask them "If morality is subjective, and personal choices should be respected, why did the man get arrested?"
Step 3- They'll say some BS about law OR the sex being unnatural.
Step 4- Tell them "Legality isn't morality. And arent you the same person who said morality is subjective. So if someone wants to rape animals, why not let them? If morals are subjective, why not let rapists rape anyone? If unnatural rape is wrong does that mean natural rape is right?"
Step 5- Some more BS from carnist side. Like killing to eat is fine.
Step 6- Pull your 3 trump card questions.
So after having sex with the goat, should rapists eat the goat to save themselves from police?
Isn't killing the animal worse than raping the animal?
You kill animals for gustatory pleasure and the rapist rapes for sexual pleasure. How is your gustatory pleasure more important than someone's sexual pleasure? How are YOU dictating personal and moral choices to others?
Step 7- They'll either leave or turn vegan 🙏
LIVE PROOF- https://www.reddit.com/r/DesiVegans/s/2NsCWAYVre
Another vegan community said they won't play my vegan game and implied I'm wrong for making it as it's "exploitative". Should I just quit guys? 😔
First my question about how vegans are often censored in social media spaces was removed by mod in prominent vegan community and then in the same space I'm dismissed and dogpiled because I thought vegans would support me. I thought I was doing something innovative for the animals here but I've got mostly negative responses. I know I have work to do on the game but how can vegans say it's exploitative and refuse to support my hard work. Do you think I should just stay in my lane? Thank you
Will they be released today to enjoy American Freedom @250?
Animals being tortured on Instagram
TW: animal abuse
I accidentally came across an Instagram account that post videos depicting intentional exteme animal abuse.
The videos show live animals being tortured in prolonged, sadistic and horrific ways. In one video, the creator puts a live pleco fish in burning hot oil, and is then covered with ”burn ointment”, while the creator is mocking the fish, saying things like ”let’s see if he can recover”. The fish is then put in a very small tank and he records as the fish slowly dies covered in burns.
In another, a live fish has its skin peeled off and is then put in some sort of acidic or corrosive liquid.
The account appears to present this as entertainment, and there are indications that viewers can pay to influence or request what is done to the animals.
I have already reported the account to Instagram, contacted the police in my country, but they didn’t seem to consider an ivestigation unfortunately.
If you choose to look at the account yourself and believe the content violates the law, please consider reporting it. Also if anybody recognizes the account or has information that could help identify the person responsible, please report it directly to any relevant authorities if possible.
The name of the account is ”madd.scientistt2.0”.
Is eating animals the same as eating plants, because plants too have life?
This book by Acharya Prashant is a compilation of his honest insights on meat-consumption, its impacts, and critique of the human tendency to recklessly consume, dominate, proliferate; leading to the destruction of mankind. Acharya Prashant justly highlights and reinforces spirituality as the real solution to the global crisis in the light of ancient wisdom. The fundamental problem is the darkness of human mind. And only spiritual wisdom can heal it.
Acharya Prashant explicitly rejects the idea that eating animals is the same as eating plants. He argues that we must consume that which causes the minimum damage to consciousness.He says that this argument is often just an excuse used by meat-eaters. From an ecological standpoint, raising animals for meat requires far more plant-based agriculture (to feed the livestock) than a purely plant-based diet, making a meat-eater responsible for exponentially more plant and animal deaths.
Treating the consumption of fruits and vegetables and animals as equivalent ignores the pain and longing for freedom that animals experience.He concludes that while some may seek loopholes or excuses to continue eating meat, those who are honestly seeking truth will recognize the necessity of empathy and non-violence.
Need help on what to say next time I encounter this!
My friend and I hung around our city’s central recently with signs that said ‘stop the r*pe and exploitation of animals - live vegan’.
(The word had an asterisks in it)
We had a few tame reactions and even some positive discussions but on the train back home I had a group say ‘there’s kids here, that’s disgusting to use that word’
The rest of the train carriage were nodding their heads and agreeing. Then they started blaming us for crop deaths and yadi yadi ya.
I said something like ‘yeah, this crime is absolutely horrible! That’s why kids shouldn’t be taught that it’s okay to support it.’
Then I was like ‘and what about non-human kids? They deserve to live lives free of this crime.’
We ended up talking over the top of each other before a fellow commuter told us to stfu. I remained calm and peaceful, dw.
I probably didn’t go about it the best way so what would you guys say? I know it’s a horrible word but I am referring to the use of artificial insemination which is standard practice in most meat farms.
Should I specify that’s what I’m talking about the next time? I feel like this part of meat farming is not talked about enough. It’s 100% a violation of the animals body to forcibly impregnate them.
I managed to get YouTube working on my in game TVs and in VR too. Is this game ARG BARG or one of a kind?
The games based on and features real debates. Thoughts? Stage 9 THE HYPOGEUM
YouTube videos playing on TVs in game. Fully functional and must utilise comment section for game progress! What do you think?
All feedback is welcome I'm new to this
Alton Brown Won't Eat Octopus... So Why Eat Pig? 🤔
Credit: Danny Ishay (animal rights activist)
Selective empathy is still selective
Dia Mirza often speaks about protecting the environment compassion and empathy. She’s publicly criticized plastic use and encourages people to be more conscious of their environmental impact.
But if empathy is the principle shouldn’t it be applied consistently?
The conditions in much of the poultry industry are well documented yet that side of suffering rarely seems to be part of the conversation. Why is one form of harm highlighted while another is overlooked?
It’s easy to ask ordinary people to change their habits. The harder question is whether the same standards are applied to our own lifestyle.
Activism loses credibility when it appears selective. If you’re asking others to make sacrifices for ethics or the environment people will naturally expect your own choices to reflect those values too.
Compassion shouldn’t depend on what’s convenient or what gets the most applause.
this is the most hypocritical bull shirt i’ve even read😑
i somehow found myself randomly on the mcdonald’s website today (which Is not very pleasant mind you), cause i was trying to find just something noted on there abt nutritional info.
anyway, came across their blog page for “our planet” and was oiterallly WOPALED reading it.
they make statements(these are word for word) such as:
“From minimising plastic in our packaging to driving climate action, investing in renewable energy, and partnering to advance sustainable agricultural practices”
“we approach beef sustainability holistically and consider our impact on the planet, the livelihoods of the people who produce our food, the communities in which they live and the well-being of the animals we rely on.” (and then they cut off that post very shortly to start discussing plastic waste instead.
like bro you’re literally a fast food chain and not just that, one that is well known for not selling or supplying a SINGLE vegan or even vegetarian friendly option.
so how tf can you claim to care about “the planet” and the “climate crisis” and “greenhouse gas emissions” when they’re literally one of the NUMBER ONE DRIVERS OF IT!!?!!!
sorry just made me so mad fr oml😑
ATTENTION‼️‼️‼️- People have already accepted that they are cruel. You have to show them happy/positive techniques, not the abuse they have already accepted. We need to show them a life of coexisiting with animals, without exploiting them. A push for a happy life movement! 🌻☀️✨️
It is very important to incorporate/include a positive vision in this movement!!! Most important, actually!
We need coexistence in housing, and medical care. We need inventions that encourage peace and unity.
We need to start bringing in more and more ways of coexistence.-
Also, being open to spiritually connect with animals too by learning of energy and telepathy. Regarding intelligence; we must encourage the intellectual abilities and intelligence of animals to HELP us in society.
Right now, we treat them like how we treated disabled circus people in the 50s. More like clowns for our entertainment, rather than team members.
How we can guide the earth into being more abundant, for example: We need trees! Plant FRUIT trees! Forests and forests of FRUIT trees! We need fruits and vegetables! So be sure to plant nature everywhere!!!
We should start looking into medical care for even bigger animals like whales, and looking into making BIODEGRADABLE plant-based nutritious medicare for them.
Whales would be the roughest, last to work with, but most and very important.
We need to encourage an intellectual relationship with animals and nature. Growing our relationships with trees, and flowers to see how they would feel, adopting Jainism for happier growth in nature.
These are important steps to bringing everyone together, to create a world that we all envision together.
How does transition to veganism affect the current global system of food supplies and economy?
Hi everyone,
From what I have understood so far, exploitation of animals is absolute exploitation. No one really benefits from it as in globally we are operating in net negative gains if we account for everything together. For example-
The well known effect of inefficient land use, huge water and energy consumption is needed to unnecessarily concentrate nutrition into the animals, then expensive supply chain system, huge drug research and development to check the diseases in livestock etc is there. All of this can be done way economically if everyone shifts to a plant based diet.
My question is-
Does this observation is in any way short sighted or missing critical perspectives?
I read that not all land used to feed livestock can actually be used to cultivate grains for plant based food. Those lands are only suitable for grazing pastures. If someone has done better calculation or research I am very interested to learn more.
A cow got loose on the highway in Oklahoma, so they called in a cowboy to handle it.
Fighting for a Cruelty-Free World!
Hello friends,
I’m a cofounder of an animal rights organization called The Anti-Vivisection Alliance.
TAVA works hard to drive impactful change through global events, strategic collaborations, and compelling calls to action, uniting advocates worldwide to champion ethical alternatives in research and to uphold animal rights.
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Thank you. 🙏