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What actually makes music feel psychedelic?

I’ve been trying to figure out what actually makes music feel psychedelic.

Not just “put a phaser on the guitar” or drown everything in delay. That can be cool, but a lot of effect-heavy music still just sounds like a normal track with trippy sauce poured on top.

The thing I’m more interested in is when the song itself feels warped.

Like when the chords are pretty simple, the drum groove is not doing anything insane, the bass is repeating some small idea, the guitar is barely playing, but somehow the whole track feels bigger than the parts. It opens up into some other room.

I hear that in a lot of psych rock/pop: the repetition starts feeling hypnotic, the bass almost becomes a hook, the guitar is more like fog than a “guitar part,” the vocal sits weirdly inside the track, and the production makes the space feel slightly fake in a good way.

That’s the thing I’m trying to understand.

If you write, play, or produce this kind of music, what makes it work for you?

Do you usually think about it from the songwriting side first - chords, melody, bass movement, groove, repetition and then make it weirder with production?

Or does the sound itself come first sometimes? Like a texture, a delay, a drone, a tape wobble, a synth patch, a weird guitar tone, and then the song grows out of that?

I’m also curious about guitars and bass specifically.

With guitar, how do you make it psychedelic without just turning it into mush? Are you thinking riffs, chords, drones, little countermelodies, textures, or just messing with the sound until it sits right?

With bass, is the trick more about locking into the drums, being melodic, repeating hypnotically, outlining chords, or something else?

I’m not looking for presets or a clone recipe. I’m trying to understand the language of it.

What do you actually listen for or change when a song feels too normal and you want it to get more psychedelic?

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u/Key_Fig_7231 — 2 hours ago

How did you stop writing the same demo over and over?

Hey everyone,

This is a question for people who have been writing their own music for a while.

I started out with a very instinctive mindset. I was inspired by artists like Kurt Cobain and the idea that music theory is secondary, or maybe even not that important at all. Just pick up a bass, guitar, drums, experiment, find parts by ear, record ideas, and eventually your taste and instincts should improve.

I still like that idea, but after making several demos I noticed a problem: a lot of them start to feel like different versions of the same idea. Same kind of drum movement, same bass habits, same guitar shapes, same arrangement instincts. It feels like I’m chewing the same tasteless gum in different forms.

So I have two questions:

  1. For those of you who started mostly by ear/instinct, did you eventually study theory, songwriting, arrangement, rhythm, or anything more structured? If yes, what actually helped you write less repetitive music?

  2. What does your rough demo workflow look like when you start from zero?

I don’t mean finishing a full 2:30 song or polishing something for a release. I mean the very first stage: you sit down, have no finished idea yet, and try to generate raw material.

Right now I often start by playing something on an instrument. If it sounds interesting, I begin recording it. But because it is a live instrument, I spend a lot of time getting it tight to the metronome, making a clean loop, fixing timing, recording multiple takes, then doing the same thing for the next instrument. By the time I finish that, I may only have one idea, and sometimes it turns out to be “cool bassline, but not really the idea I wanted.”

I’m wondering if I should treat early demos much rougher: forget perfect timing at first, quickly capture the core idea, add bass/drums/guitar around it in a loose way, and try to make maybe 4-5 rough sketches in one long session instead of spending the whole session cleaning up one loop.

How do you personally approach this stage?

Do you start with drums, chords, bass, melody, sound design, a loop, a voice memo, or something else?

And what helped you stop repeating the same musical habits over and over?

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u/Key_Fig_7231 — 3 hours ago

Noob at the piano, But proficient at FL Studio. How do I learn the piano?

Ok so some background:

I am a a music producer/beatmaker. I have a decade of experience with DAWs, the piano roll, and a variety of genres.

I can make sweet piano melodies and chord progressions on the software but not on the piano. I can barely play baa baa black sheep. Do know a bit of sheet music. Music theory bases are covered mostly.

My goal:

Learn the piano to play jazz or the blues, it soothes my mind like no other. Not very interested in classical music pieces but not averse to trying new things.

There isnt really a time limit or constraint for me to learn because I have all the time in the world for a while.

I need your advice folks, I really do.

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u/Candid-Government-83 — 5 hours ago

Looking for creative ways to use my music experience on eBay

Hi everyone,

I am a 23 year old woman from Germany living with my mother and I want a stable income to support myself.

I'm a musician, and I also have an eBay account. I'm trying to think outside the box and combine my music background with selling on eBay.

I'm still at the beginning of my eBay journey, and I'm trying to build a reliable source of income by using the skills I already have instead of starting from zero.

I'm not necessarily looking to sell instruments or music gear. I'm more interested in finding creative ways to use my experience as a musician to offer something valuable that people would actually pay for on eBay.

Has anyone here successfully turned a skill or hobby into an eBay business?

If you were in my position, how would you use a musician's knowledge or experience to create products or services that could sell well?

I'd really appreciate any creative ideas or real-world examples. Thanks!

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u/ElderberryGloomy2539 — 3 hours ago

Should I re-record drums?

Recorded a full band and was hoping to get everything to the click but drums ended up dragging keys and bass.

I'm so set on the click only because I have a second session to record on top of this one for strings. Should I just start from scratch or is this salvagable somehow on ProTools?

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u/just-wingin-it — 2 hours ago

Advice for managing large amounts of work?

Hey all. I've been composing electronic music on and off since I was about 13 but have never been a great mixer or producer. I'm very much someone who has made a lot of stuff quickly, tried to refine it but have abandoned it for new ideas...yada yada yada...the cycle went on for about twenty years. I'm 33 now, freshly diagnosed with ADHD and medicated. I've finally gone back through 2 decades worth of my projects that were all quite poorly managed across devices and hard drives over the years. I organised it all and I think I have a lot of good base material and am feeling up to bringing some of it up to scratch to make a music archive of sorts that I can release somehow. There's about 7 EPs and LPs worth and maybe another 25+ tracks that aren't part of a larger project.

Does anyone have any advice for managing this amount of work without overwhelming myself? I would like to do it myself. Some of it will be purely mixing and mastering, while a lot will be having to rebuild some things from scratch...which can be fun to play with stuff in that way. My earlier work is all on Garageband, while the latter half is on Ableton - and I have a Digitakt and Push and hope to add some dynamics to some of my rougher, less fleshed out stuff. Any advice or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

I would say my music has oscillated between ambient, downtempo, trip hop, synth pop, electronica, folk, alt rock, to techno, dance and art pop throughout the years. I would say the music I have made thus far was inspired by 90s PS1 soundtracks (Wipeout, Abe's Oddysee, Tomb Raider, Tekken and Spyro) and musicians like Aphex Twin, Björk, Portishead and Massive Attack.

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u/intothenether31 — 11 hours ago

How do you actually make money from your music today? Streaming feels broken

I'm a solo developer and a longtime music fan, and lately I've been trying to really understand how independent artists make a living now — not the headline numbers, but how it actually works for you.

The thing I keep running into: you can rack up thousands of streams and still make almost nothing. Payouts are fractions of a cent, your audience is scattered across five platforms, and the people who genuinely love your music don't have a simple way to support you directly.

So I'd really appreciate hearing from you:

- How do you make money from music today — streaming, merch, shows, Patreon, sync, something else? What actually moves the needle?

- Does your streaming income feel fair for the number of listeners you have?

- How and where do you talk to your fans? Discord, Instagram, a group chat, comments, a mailing list — where does that connection actually happen?

- Honest gut check: if a handful of your most loyal fans could pay ~$1/month for something exclusive (early tracks, behind-the-scenes, a private chat, demos, posts with polls), would that be worth setting up, or does that feel unrealistic?

Not trying to sell anything here — I'm just trying to understand the real economics from the people living it before I build in the wrong direction. Appreciate any honesty, even if the answer is "this idea won't work."

If anyone's curious what I'm building, I'm glad to share — just didn't want to make this post about that.

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u/Future-Yoghurt-7848 — 20 hours ago

I was told by an exec in the music industry that artists aren’t mastering their songs anymore unless they’re doing a vinyl pressing.

This is wildly incorrect, right? Unless this is some new revelation, it seems like mastering your music is completely necessary. It’s basically the glue to hold it all together. Any more insight on this or is this take as wrong as I think it is?

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u/rfhmusic92 — 1 day ago

What actually makes a music YouTube channel grow in 2026?

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Hi everyone,

Why do some new music channels seem to reach millions of views very quickly, sometimes within months, while others stay relatively small even after years of consistent uploads?

What factors matter most today?

music quality

thumbnails / visuals

upload strategy

consistency

algorithm factors

branding / packaging

or something else?

What is actually driving fast growth in modern music channels?

Thanks for any insights!

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u/Appropriate-Idea4556 — 20 hours ago

Built a web app that maps song structure (Verse, Chorus, Bridge, etc.) — here's a demo

Upload any track and it instantly maps the structure — Verse, Chorus, Bridge, and more. Also gives AI feedback and exports a PDF. Would love to hear what you think!

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u/WhichYoung6026 — 17 hours ago

Plugins to teach quiet mixing

Have been producing for a minute, and a frequent problem I’ve found in my tracks is that I have way too much volume. Without fail, every time I “finish” producing a track and want to get into mixing/mastering, the master is clipping by +5 or +10 dB. And when I go to correct that at the end, I find that if I turn things down, it fundamentally alters my mix in a way I don’t like. My question is: are there any good plugins that could either help monitor this or actually provide a higher ceiling or something lol?

I know about putting a limiter on the master, but that doesn’t seem to work since I either overcompensate, and when I take the limiter off, it sounds like bollocks. (It’s also a pain when I open up Serum and play a sound and it fucking shakes my house because I forgot I turned up the gain on my interface.)

I could also just get more disciplined, but I just want to see what’s out there or what solutions anyone has come up with.

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u/MisoCornLuchador — 18 hours ago

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I have dozens of finished songs but no music for them

Hey everyone,
I’m looking for some advice or maybe even someone to collaborate with.
I can write complete lyrics on my own. Lyrics, concepts, storytelling, verses, choruses, bridges, all of that comes pretty naturally to me. The problem is that when it comes to the actual music side of things, I’m completely lost.
I don’t know how to create melodies, rhythms, chord progressions, or instrumentals. I can hear the emotion I want in my head, but I have no idea how to turn that into actual music. Most of the time I end up with pages of lyrics and no clue what they should sound like.
Has anyone else started from a lyrics-only background and learned the music side later? If so, where would you recommend I begin? Are there any beginner-friendly tools, courses, or methods that helped you understand melody and songwriting from a musical perspective?
I’d also love to hear how lyricists usually find producers, composers, or musicians to work with.
Any advice would be appreciated.

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u/harry_puhahhh — 1 day ago

Gift ideas for songwriter/recording music?

Hey there, I have a family member who currently writes songs. She plays guitar and she’s big on playing for open mics, but most of her actual “recording” is just video on her phone.

I’d like to get her some mics or something useful for her birthday and not break the bank, but I really don’t know what to look for. (I don’t even know if a $50 mic is better than current iPhone.) I’m primarily looking on fb marketplace or eBay, but don’t know the world enough to even know fair prices, rip offs, or deals. Any suggestions for gifts and what to look for? What would make the most impact for the lowest prices? Specifics appreciated!

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u/HollarBackAtcha — 1 day ago

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u/AutoModerator — 1 day ago

Radio Mic recommendations?

The singer in our band wants to get a radio mic. She'd like to keep her current mic, does anyone have any experience with plug in radio systems line the Boss WL-30XLR, or any other recommendations?

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u/Coralwood — 1 day ago
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I'm trying to sonically analyze my track for editorial pitching before release to Spotify. Any there good sonic analyzers / comparators that don't require the song to be uploaded to streaming services already first?

The popular sonic analyzers I've found all require a spotify or some sort of official streaming link. I tried using a private soundcloud link for a few of them but no luck there.

Anyone have any tips to get my unreleased track sonically compared to other released tracks?

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u/ToThoseUnaware — 1 day ago

Making Music at This Museum is Not Obsolete?

I have a summer trip to England and I will be stopping by This Museum is Not Obsolete in Ramsgate. The museum houses a collection of rare, obscure and odd electronic instruments and other miscellaneous electronic devices.

I have scheduled a few hours to play and record on their available instruments. I am a moderate musician, happy with the music I've made with my computer and will be playing and recording for fun.

I reaching out to see if anyone has visited/recorded there. And if so what thoughts and suggestion you would have to maximize my time there.

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I don’t understand how people create music

I didn’t know how else to put the title.
But basically I can’t get my head around how people create beats and come up with lyrics for music.
I really don’t get it, maybe I’m just not that creative 😭

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u/Scared_oinion74 — 2 days ago
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Made an MPC-style amen chopper VST3 (Win). Try it in the browser before downloading

MPC-170 // Cognitive Slicer by nosense_3d

Hey — I made MPC-170 // Cognitive Slicer, a real-time breakcore slicer.

You drop any break (or use the built-in synthesized amen), it auto-slices

and classifies every hit as KICK / SNARE / HIHAT / GLITCH, then you mangle

it on a 16-step grid: per-step reverse, stutter (x2/x4/x8), pitch, plus

live CHAOS / STUTTER / PITCH MADNESS / REVERSE sliders that scramble the

sequence in real time. AUTOPILOT for endless algorithmic chopping.

There's a free playable demo right in the bro

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u/Top_Money6777 — 2 days ago