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>!Olver gave him an accusatory look, but a moment later he whipped around to give Frielle an insolent grin he had picked up somewhere.!<
And that’s why >!Mat!< is my ride or die character of the series before even Rand.

Spoiler marker to be safe but not sure this is really a spoiler.

I do NOT understand circles at all. I know the fandom wiki can be wrong, but I tried reading the page on circles to understand and it makes no sense to me so hopefully someone can help me understand.

>The men are absolutely unable to form circles by their own, instead without a man, the maximum number of channelers in exclusively female circles is thirteen.

>With the addition of a man, bringing the total to fourteen, an additional thirteen female channelers are possible, reaching twenty-seven. After this, only eight female channelers can be added with the addition of one male channeler, up to the limit of seventy-two total channelers, following this scheme

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>For example, the most powerful balance for a circle would be thirty-five men and thirty-seven women. 

If a circle is limited in how it can be formed for both genders (13 female + 1 male) and then the weird + 8 rule afterwards, how would there be a circle of 35 + 37?

Currently enjoying my time in the slog (Crossroad of Twilight), I love the character of Mili Skane (who took Lady Shiaine identity), the cold-blood Darkfriend killer.

She's quite a non-essential character and this is what I like. The story and its world is not only about epic adventures, big times and heroes. Dark plots also need foremen and technicians of crime.
I loved watching behind the scenes of plots the perpetrators and not just, as is often the case, the masterminds.

And I also enjoyed the fact that we don't kow what happened to Mili Skane after LB, I love to imagine the fate of the remaining Darkfriends in a post-AMoL world (I also wrote a fanfic about it...).

Is there any other (very) minor character you loved to read about?

so i started reading winter's heart and i had struggled throughout the whole series about power unbalance among male and female ,truly it felt (and is) overly unrealistic... specially at the places where one power's influence wasn't evident (like far maddening, or seanchen where one power is despised).

But as most fabs had stated, that power imbalance was the cause of breaking... even after 3000 years people didn't forget that it were males who went mad and spread destruction throughout the world.

At first it felt unrealistic that even after 3000 years males are blamed for ehat their ancestors did, after the influence of dark one.. not their own.

but as i recall, i heard many times , religious people blaming women , because they claim it was Eva who had convinced Adam to eat the fruit and as a result they wete banished from heaven.

another religious group claims that women were created after the men, from their ribcage, because men felt alone... they claim that women are inferior because they were created by ribcage.

As unrealistic as these claims sounds... we have to accept that a very large group of people accepts these claims for more than 3000 years.

But i am still certain that jorden went overboard while reversing the gender power based roles. It's very irritating while living through far maddening.

Im now getting into the wheel of time because my parents watched the wheel of time when it first came out and I now starting to read it(really enjoying it) how accurate is the show design to the book. And should I trust the fan art.

It's been a few months since I would have read ACoS and PoD but I seem to recall that during the later half of ACoS or early PoD, Rand tells Min about Lews Therin.

Something along the lines of "I'm too dangerous to love Min, Cadsuane is right, I do hear voiced in my head. The Voice of Lews Therin at that, I'm going insaaaaane!" And Min responding with "I don't care if you are insane you wool headed fool, I still love you and I'll make sure to keep you sane!"

Not exactly of course but along those lines. Did I just fabricate this in my head? Because in KoF when Semirhage says that Rand is hearing voices in his head and that she knows he is Min seems taken a bit aback by the comment. At least that's how I read it. But rather then shock like she didn't know it was more shock that it was being confirmed or restated or maybe even that it was being said aloud?

Man I'm sorry but I'm reading how Egwene is getting "tortured" in the tower and she is high-key getting spanked with a slipper I started laughing to myself while walking and listening to the audiobook is Robert Jordan for real😭

The five "elements" of the one power are the same as the five points of the Pentacle in paganism - spirit, fire, air, water and earth. It would make sense for this to be the ancient symbol of the aes sedai - it would make sense for this to be the modern symbol of the aes sedai! But they use a star of David, 2 triangles on top of one another. Ive barely started book 14 so maybe it's explained later, since Rand now has better memories of the Age of Legends? Or yk the other Dragons memories, but I feel like a pentacle would have made more sense

I really like the adventure aspect of book 1 of leaving a small village and traveling into the greater world, staying at random inns and farms, discovering a city for the first time ever, the mysterious ruins etc

Any other books in this vein that can be recommended? Obvious one is Fellowship of the Ring and the Hobbit, so I’m looking for others.

Thanks!

How did she get a real body when she was cast out?

Vague title to avoid spoilers. I tried searching old posts on here and couldn't find anything so hopefully this isn't a repetitive question.

When Aludra invents dragons teeth, what are you all picturing? I can't figure out what kind of weapon it's alluding to, if it's basically a precursor to a shotgun just in cannonball size (like a shrapnel cannon) or something else.

ETA: I know Dragons are cannons and Dragons Eggs are cannonballs, I'm asking specifically about Dragons Teeth, which are a separate weapon or at least type of ammunition

I was not expecting to tear up when Lan tells Mandarb that after the last battle he can rest and eat all the apples he wants.

This has been a headcanon of mine for awhile. There is no evidence in the books or in the answers that Jordan ever gave in Q&A session.

Nynaeve is Latra Posae Decume reborn.

In the Age of Legends (Strike at Shayol Ghul) LPD opposes Lews Therin's plan to seal the Dark One. She proposes using the Choeden Kal to raise a barrier to surround Shayol Ghul from the rest of the World in the hopes that later generations might find the answer. (I'm slightly iffy on my memor of her exact plan, but it was very much something like this) Her plan is thwarted when the Access Keys are lost, but she never changes her mind that LTT's plan is too dangerous. She was probably correct. If women had joined the Strike then the counterstroke could have tainted Saidar as well as Saidin.

In the books, Nynaeve joins Rand in using the Access Keys to cleanse Saidin and then joined him in his own strike at Shayol Ghul.

Both Nynaeve and LPD were correct in their reasoning. The Pattern reusing the same soul, in such similar situations, but with different choices and different outcomes is very much in keeping with the Pattern choosing balance.

Nynaeve didn't "fix" LPD's mistake, because LPD didn't make a mistake. Nynaeve completed the task that LPD started, just in a different manner.

This doesn't really change anything in how things worked out, but I think it adds a nice symmetry. Because history doesn't actually repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

Can you really transform objects into other objects with the one power? Did Rand make a real flower from feathers?

Does anyone have the source for the claim that he made the second flower from the feathers Elayne saved from his second attempt?

Thanks

Hey. Yesterday, during a discussion under one post, I suggested that Isendre could be in the top 10 female characters from The Wheel of Time in terms of beauty.

This led to a question in the comment exchange: which female characters would be in such a top 10?

This is highly subjective, and I have a feeling that only Lanfear and Berelain would have an almost 100% chance of being in anyone's top 10.

It depends on whether, for example, physical attractiveness (many characters have large breasts) or facial beauty would be more important, etc.

If I were to subjectively choose my top 10, in no particular order, it would be:

- Lanfear

- Berelain

- Amathera

- Nynaeve

- Aviendha

- Elayne

- Morgase

- Sarene

- Sevanna

- Isendre

What would your top 10 be and would there be room for Isendre in it?

I didn’t believe in the slog, but here i am a little more than half way into Crossroads of Twilight and finding myself putting it down for a couple days at a time and only go back to it for small chunks at a time.

When does it get good again? Does it all pay off?