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The Black Panther film franchise is bad at representation and that has ruined it's potential

For context, I'm a Black African man living in Botswana, born and raised so I don't want to be accused of being someone who doesn't have connections to the cultures being displayed on screen.

As well as a spoiler disclaimer for for Black Panther 1, 2 and Eye's of Wakanda.

With that being said, I really HATE how Hollywood treat's displaying our culture, I was tolerant until I saw Black Panther. Everyone saw it as such a liberating, revolutionary step in the right direction in terms of representation. IT WAS TIRING TO SEE AS AN AFRICAN. It was a lazy attempt at putting together a fictional African country which is canonically located in East Africa.

They use SOTHO TSWANA BLANKETS as shields, displayed the culture of MY PEOPLE, the culture of MY NEIGHBOURS (our fellow Ndebele of which I am half on my dad's side), and various southern african culture's one to one, without considering where these culture's and groups reside.

They did didn't even bother to give some tribes actual names, (mining tribe, border tribe). Made them speak Xhosa, A SOUTH AFRICAN LANGUAGE even though wakanda is located in the East.

I love Chadwick Boseman Lord rest his tender soul, but they cast a non African as the black panther (which isn't an issue but they keep having these actors use the same generic African hollywood accent) and the two African's they cast, the talented John Kani (South Africa) and the even more talented Lupita Nyongo (her family is Kenyan) weren't even that important, sure John plays Tchalla's father so he's pretty important, ill concede that point but I feel Lupita's character as Tchalla's love interest just has fallen flat.

The animated show eye's of Wakanda, DIDN'T EVEN CENTRE THAT MUCH ON AFRICAN COUNTRIES, i know it's only 4 episodes but we got one episode set in Greece, another set inside a wakandan tower, the other was some time travel bullshit and only hinted at the Italo ethiopian war.

Tchalla at the end of the first black panther gave vibranium to the FUCKING UNITED NATIONS as well. An organization that admittedly has not only screwed over Africa or at least turned a blind eye to it but has failed the ENTIRE GLOBAL SOUTH.

They continued to do those GODAWFUL generic hollywood African accents, the only authentic one is John Kani because he is SOUTH AFRICAN, i have friends with that same accent.

The worst part is Ryan Coogler can do better, I've seen sinner's, the scene where Sammy is singing and the future and past are displayed is more of a tribute to us Africans and even better a scene that connects the continent and diaspora in a way that's so surreal. Ryan Coogler CAN DO BETTER and that hurts so much.

If you're African American and you enjoyed the film and felt seen, all power to you. I truly am glad that you have felt seen but genuinely, Black Panther is using our aesthetics, our traditions and our root's to appease to an audience that isn't us. They made a movie and painted it African but damn well it was intended at least for us at all.

I just wish it could have done better. Am I just being over the top?

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u/Mental-Statement2941 — 16 hours ago

MCU Black Panther Worldbuilding

I'm working on a cohesive document for fanfiction writing purposes (basically a sandbox for all my works) and I'd appreciate any notes or feed back on it.

So far the sections touch on what i consider to be relevant points for character development and history but I'm sure there may be things missing.

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u/whitemisandry — 1 day ago
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Scarlet Witch x Black Panter

All Im saying is Damson Idris and Elizabeth Olsen would look really cute together on a movie screen 😂

u/DogManDogDayz — 2 days ago

If the Russo Brothers were in charge of directing the first black panther film instead of Ryan Coogler do you think the movie would still be a success and could have done Tchalla and the other characters a great service ?

u/JoshyBear28 — 3 days ago

I will forever love the premise of Wakanda but I kinda hate how Wakanda has the cure to cancer but refuses to to give out to the world

u/JoshyBear28 — 4 days ago
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Futuristic armies forgetting artillery exists

I hate this trope so much.

At least Jedi have space wizard powers and can deflect blaster bolts. Wakanda is supposed to have shields, aircraft, vibranium, energy weapons, cloaking, absurd infrastructure, and the best military tech on Earth.

Then Infinity War happens and their big defensive plan is to open the barrier and sprint straight at the alien meat grinder with spears.

What are we doing here?

Where is the artillery? Drones? Mines? Turrets? Air support? Bombardment? Trenches? Choke points? Anything that keeps the enemy from getting close enough to bite your face off?

A random 20th century general with a radio and a migraine could have come up with a better defense.

Wakanda fights like a medieval army that got a free trial of laser spears. You cannot keep telling me this is the most advanced country on Earth and then show me their army forming up for a dramatic foot race into the monster horde.

I know it looks cool. I do not care. Their entire military doctrine seems to be “run forward really hard.”

And MCU Wakanda’s foreign policy is just as stupid.

They have world-changing tech, infinite magic metal, force fields, stealth ships, miracle medicine, and centuries of advantage, and their master plan is apparently “hide in the bushes forever.”

A country with that tech gap would become a superpower by accident. Trade, defense, intelligence, space, energy, diplomacy. They should dominate everything just by existing.

That’s why Marvel Rivals and Aliens vs. Avengers making Wakanda an intergalactic empire feels less stupid. That actually follows from the premise.

MCU Wakanda is an advanced civilization written by people who refuse to think about what “advanced civilization” means for more than five seconds.

u/darkjuste — 7 days ago

That time T'challa engineered a life raft capable of surviving the collapse of the multiverse. Secret Wars (2015)

u/J3kStEr — 6 days ago

Black Panther 3

We know that Shuri is gonna be Black Panther in the upcoming avengers movies, do you think she’ll be the lead once again in the 3rd movie? Or do you see them giving us another T’Challa

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u/Comics819 — 5 days ago

This interaction between T'challa and Luke will always be so funny to me (From Black Panther: The Man Without Fear 513)

u/Automatic_Ask32 — 7 days ago
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Black Panther Comics

I want to start reading Black Panther comics. Do I need to read Christopher Priest and Reginald Hudlin's runs or can I start with Hickman's Avengers & Secret Wars followed by Ta-Nehisi Coates runs?

u/Ziad-Rahman — 6 days ago

Read This Before Posting: This Sub is Garbage and it Will Change or Die

Hello,

I have been incredibly busy with life, barely keeping on eye on this place and letting it police itself. Many users on this website love to proclaim that mods should back off and let the users and community police themselves with upvotes and downvotes.

The result: this subreddit is garbage. It is just another subreddit where all y'all are doing is bitching, whining, fighting, shitposting, off topic posting, low effort posting, and just in general acting like miserable human beings surrounded by other miserable human beings.

This is going to change. If that results in one post a month, then so be it. I would rather this subreddit pass to the Djalia than operate in its current form.

So let's clarify some items:

1. This is a T'challa subreddit. It says so in the subreddit description none of you have read. Only T'challa is in the banner. If this bothers you, leave. Are posts about Shuri, M'baku, Killmonger, Storm, etc allowed? Yes. Are posts where you act like they are the main character allowed? No. Are posts that go, "this is a bLaCk PaNtHeRs subreddit" allowed? No.

This is r/blackpanther. Not r/blackpanthers. Not r/wakanda. Not r/blacksuperheroes. Not r/Storm. Not r/Shuri. T'challa is the Black Panther.

2. The infighting with Shuri and Storm Fans will stop. Just fucking stop. Stop purposedly agitating each other. Y'all are not discussing. Y'all are just trying to get barbs in and agitate each other. Stop acting like children.

  1. Absolutely no real world politics. You can do that in every single subreddit on this website. Go do it there. You are not an activist because you posted that T'challa is oppressed because he is a black male for the 102343th time.

  2. If you use a racial slur, you are gone. I don't care what race you say you are, I can't confirm and so you will just be banned.

  3. Put some effort into your posts. At least pretend you passed middle school.

  4. All bans are permanent. I don't do two weeks bans, 2 day bans, one month bans... if you break 1-4, you will be permabanned.

If this doesn't jive with you, that is fine. The beauty of reddit is that there are an infinite amount of subreddits and you can even make your own. I am not arguing with people about this. Adapt or leave.

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u/MindofShadow — 8 days ago

Master Chief (Halo) vs Black Panther (Marvel)

Both characters in their prime.

Composite Versions.

1v1.

All Feats and facts from the lore, books, movies, games etc apply.

Standard equipment according to the lore.

Battle to the death.

u/Arbiter-Flash- — 6 days ago