r/britneyspearsneutral

I was banned because according to MOD I was spreading conspiracy theories. I mean everyone was doing it there 😂

My last reply is based on a NYT article. Jacky who testified to establish the conservatorship and was a friend of Lynn stated that the first thing Jaime said to Britney is that she is too fat and she needs to diet for her comeback. Then I was banned.

People there even said the worst talking about speculation of her illness including AIDs or Drug Overdose.

I always stand by my ground. Britney working immediately after the implementation of the conservatorship shows how her parents see her - a brand, not their kid. If DB kept using "contracts" as an excuse, any responsible parent would have done everything and exhaust their energy in negotiating. Your kid was in a psychiatric hold 2x that year and when you got control of them, the first thing you did was make her work? What kind a parent are you?

The last reply to me was that "she is a grown women" so I want to ask. Why is this grown woman needs someone to control her?

Anyways, I wont argue about her not doing well but saying the conservatorship was made for her wellbeing is BS. And I would be forever be bitter by the fact that Britney didnt get the help she needed. That time spent shooting, rehearsing, recording, promoting and touring could have been used for her to get well. Now all we see is her spinning.

Okay, I get it, snark subreddits are a thing and will always be, it seems. Celebrities behave stupidly, messily and, even worse, can often be downright manipulative and conniving in how they (and their teams) create public narratives and exploit their fans. Gossip is age-old and gossiping about stars is something which seems to unite everybody.

I understand. However, to have a snark subreddit over Britney Spears in the big old year of 2026 is morally indefensible and ableist. Ableism is a form of discrimination and isn't Reddit supposed to abide by US laws (I actually don't know where Reddit is based but these laws tend to be uniform in many countries)?

Snarking on Britney from 1999-2006 is one thing (still weird as she was 17 for most of 1999), for her outfits, her singing, strange persona (woman-child, virgin sexpot) but after she gave birth to Jayden James in 2006 and filed for divorce, it is clear that something happened that caused her mental health to go into precipitous freefall. Indeed, if in 2008, the same courts that online haters always use a "gotcha!" to shut down arguments labelled her "gravely disabled", isn't that this the biggest piece of evidence that a subreddit like that should not be allowed exist?

The absolute horror (not exaggerated) I see on one particular subreddit where she is mocked as the Babadook, called a disgusting, vile creep, "when was the last time this bitch took a shower" etc etc is disheartening (but eye-opening) as it shows that when people get this ill, they lose their dignity and worth as humans in the eyes of others. The users positively relish in her mental health crises and in her (probable) addiction. At this point, very few even bother prefacing their glee with pseudo-concern. The implications beyond are troubling.

The excuses some make are "Oh, yes she ill but she has all the resources in the world to get help and she won't. I am ill I make sure I stay on top of my mental health." Everyone's experience of mental illness is different, even if they have the same condition. Also, they conveniently forget (or don't know, let's be fair) about anosognosia, which is when people who are mentally ill don't understand they are ill. The more serious the illness, the more likely anosognosia happens, and judging from Britney's Instagram captions, it seems like she also has this.

Another one is "She abused her boys so I don't give a shit! She shouldn't be allowed to make her boys suffer because she did". Agreed. Abuse is not acceptable. But her interactions with her boys fell under the timeline of her illness and the conservatorship (which was supposed to be helping her, right? So why were her conservators not safeguarding her AND her children?). She has been severely unwell for most of their lives. This doesn't mean her boys aren't allowed to be angry and feel traumatised because of her, but it doesn't mean YOU get to continue to kick and prod at someone who is actually this unwell and who psychiatry says may not even be responsible for some of these actions based on her level of sickness.

The Britney Spears story is now deeply uncomfortable and even distressing to watch for most of us but entertaining to some people online, unfortunately .This is so wrong and it goes beyond bored internet people sniping over a ridiculous celebrity. This rhetoric, reinforced by online spaces which legitimise it, helps keep stigma towards mental illness going.

I posted this in the Britney snark & I got 30 comments in less than 20 minutes & was immediately banned from replying so they can stay in their own echo chamber. The way that these people criticize abused battered women & never think about the abuse & ridicule this women experienced is bizarre & so out of touch. I’m genuinely concerned with the way our society is moving with the way we’re treating mentally ill/drug addicted/neurodivergent people without any thought, treating them like they’re not human, like they are nothing but a thing to gawk at. The more online these people are the easier it is for them to sever their empathy & easily criticize people online who they know nothing about. They won’t accept criticism or hear anybody else’s point. You will also be accused of the same things Britney is being accused of, they said that IM mentally ill & abusive for taking a step back & thinking about the human in her & other abused women. I think this aligns with the abuse amber heard experienced & the way she was burned at the stake simply for being abused by somebody they idolize, destroying the perfect image of Johnny depp, so they must find a way to isolate & delegitimize her without any real look at the facts & evidence. They are not looking for the truth, they’re looking for a way to invalidated & dehumanize them. I think everyone should read her memoir before commenting or watch Kat tenbarge’s video just posted on her.

Whether you think her behavior is due to drug addiction, mental illness, or both, the fact of the matter is that she's sick. She has an illness. And yet, people meme on her like it's hilarious that she's in this state. What are we doing here?? Why are we literally making memes of a person's illness?

This is not a hate post or opening the gates for any hatred. Britney will always be the epitome of an icon and resilience, but her behavior the last few years has definitely changed the way I think about a lot of things. Has anybody else moved to a point of essentially “grieving” the person we thought we knew? I was at the for front of freebritney, and to this day do still believe she was being taken advantage of - I also agree that a lot of the behavior we see is probably a result of the restrictive existence she lived under the conservatorship. On the other hand,the more stories I read and things I see I’m starting to draw the conclusion Britney has ALWAYS been suffering mentall illness. Even pre 2007, you can really start to see the perfectly crafted PR mask come off as early as 2003.. I used to think the reason they never let her speak was because they were hiding the conservatorship situation but now I truly believe it had to do with her ability to speak coherently. Every interview question, every spoken line at shows was carefully scripted and rehearsed. Anyways, I willl always love Britney, defend her legacy and prioritize her right to autonomy as a human being before a commercial product- but do you ever wonder if the person we see on Instagram now and are so disturbed by, was the same person we always supported? They just hid her behind the curtains?

I've been a Britney fan since I was a young child. I can't honestly remember a time I wasn't a Britney fan, ever since my mom was listening to her, Christina and the Backstreet Boys (she's a pop girlie), and I'm having a really hard time understanding why the conservatorship was so bad?

I understand that some aspects of it were awful, like being forced to not have kids or not having certain freedoms any person should have. That's awful and it should've not happened. But she was also doing better than she's doing now in many aspects.

She was working and doing what she loves the most, she was with her kids and going out on vacations, she had multiple relationships and looked genuinely happy in most of them. She wasn't a recluse, doing the same routing over and over and over again, and she looked healthy, stable and happy. I know deep down she was suffering for certain aspects, but her life overall seemed better when she was under the c-ship. So I honestly don't know how to feel...

Did we all make a mistake by pushing for it to end? Should she still be in a c-ship, just without so many restrictions against her civil rights?

I just want what's best for her, but I'm not sure total freedom is that. I've seen for the past 4 years a woman who's wasting away her life, trapped in a cycle of reliving trauma, blaming others for her issues, not taking care of herself, getting in trouble with the law, and not doing what she always said she loved the most; she's alone, her children are living their own lives, she's single and has no friends we can see. She looks sad and unstable. It's soooo heartbreaking...

I'm very happy that the mental health discours is focusing so much on accountability. It's important to know that being autistic, a narcissist or bipolar doesn't make you necessarily a bad person.

That said, it's important to acknowledge that mental illness *does* have an impact on the way you perceive the world, your thoughts and therefore your actions. A person who suffers from severe paranoia and believes that the people around them want to kill them cuz the CIA said so can cause serious harm to others for "self defense". A person suffering from a god complex delusion can make reckless decisions and put themselves and others in danger. A person suffering from bipolar can take too many responsibilities during a manic episode just to become extremely neglectful towards the same ones they wanted to take care of and protect.

This isn't a justification. Of course we have to do our best to avoid causing harm to others. But sometimes, our best isn't enough. Our willpower isn't always enough. Our mental clarity isn't always enough.

Of course I don't know Britney and can only make assumptions. But from what I see, she seems very delusional and paranoid. Like, a lot. She's convinced that the paps are secretely faking their identities to become her employees and spy on her, that her mother is secretly following her inside the hotels and reporting fake domestic violence allegations against her boyfriends to take her money and that she's an angel. I may be wrong, but I have the impression she's worried about doctors secretely wanting to harm her and that she knows better. And in this case it's much worse than somebody just not wanting to get help, because it's impossible to even have a discussion about it.

She's also not just completely incapable of living on her own and do the most basic things, but also absolutely unaware of it. She gets unsafe medical procedures and doesn't understand why it goes wrong and get pets without knowing you have to take them out for poop and eventually wash the floor if they shit and piss on it. That's... well, concerning. And definitely not a sign of being aware that *it's not nice to step on your dog's poop.*

Not to mention the drugs abuse that only worsens her delusional state and incapacity of taking basic care of herself. She's like a kid who acts though and rebellious but can't even understand why you have to work if your credit card magically produces money.

Unfortunately this doesn't apply only to Britney.

(I found this on the main Britney sub)

In 2008, when Britney locked herself in with her son, that is one of the best things any mom could do. Protect her babies.

HOWEVER, Britney violated the custody agreement. It’s unfortunate, it’s unfair, but rules are rules. To the police perspective, Britney could have been harming her kids without anyone to intervene. If Kevin locked himself in the bathroom, Britney would have probably called the police as well.

BUT…strapping someone to a gurney and making them stay in a hospital and then in a conservatorship for 13 years? What kind of punishment is that?

It was a minor custody violation. Most courts would probably either give Britney a slap on the wrist or at MOST a year of no custody. Instead the court gives out this punishment where her dad gets control of Britney. And the court never had an end to the punishment. The only reason the punishment stopped is because Britney’s fans fought for her

I hate when people are saying that we’re defending Britney violating the custody agreement. How we’re all just glittery girls holding pink Free Britney signs because she didn’t understand the law. We’re not! We all know Britney did the wrong thing! We know she 100% broke the law! We just want her to be punished differently. Like how does any court turn a minor custody violation that MAYBE results in a 1 year sentence maximum…into 13 years??