I just got a pc a few days ago and ive had multiple in the past but ended up selling them because i like the simplicity of a console but with all this drama going on with sony im unsure what to do. I only really buy digital games on playstation but i was thinking of starting to buy physical until this news dropped. So should i just stay with pc or sell it and stay with ps5 then get the ps6 when it comes out?
With all the hoopla about PlayStation discontinuing physical games in a few years, I decided to log in to my dormant PlayStation account. I haven’t used it since I sold my Vita years ago, but I did purchase several digital games from the PlayStation store. I’ve searched all over the app and website and can’t find proof that these games are attached to my account. I went digging through old emails and did find my receipts. I’ve seen several posts about your account being deleted after 3 years of no use, but my account is still accessible…just not my purchased games. What’s crazy is that it if I look at all my online accounts that I’ve made digital purchases from over the years, I can see all my purchased content. I checked Xbox, Steam, Nintendo, iTunes, etc. and none of those services have deleted the digital content I paid for.
WTF Sony? Where are my games?
It's so bold and in your face the timing isn't an accident, they used Rockstar or Rockstar used Sony or they coordinated on the same idea. Open pre-orders for the biggest title everyone has been waiting for over a decade for and then use it to maximize their profits. If you as me this the ultimate game of chicken and the community could easily make them reverse course, just simply don't buy it, put your money into a game that is released on physical only. Not only do we not buy it we from this day forward only purchase physical titles. If the entire customer base is united on this guess what they have no choice to reverse it. The move they made is a very blaitant FU , I dare you, what are you going to do ? Well, I say we call their bluff and force them back to the table with the only language they understand, money..
It's a lot of nonsense about physical media being removed and this vs that and truth be told, I just like games. Have fun this weekend everyone.
Hi fellow gamers and Xbox employee lurkers. We live in tough times now. The memory wall looks as insurmountable as the Wall in the North, but I had me a nap and got some ideas out of it. So I put it in white letters on darkmode in my den so it don't fleet away. Beware, wall of text, but paragraphs make it digestible, even on the can when your dealing with your digestables.
Also, to Xbox HW team, you may have had these ideas all along, if so, Jason Ronald, you're a Wizard, please let me into Hogwarts.
alright: Ideas
That's it, can't make everything up for you, I don't get paid for this, if you send me that green X25, I may put something in chatgpt for more bullet points. To everyone else, congrats for making it over this wall. Let's hope we make it over the big one. Why did you climb this? Go play games.
My gaming TV sort of aging. I bought it 3 years ago but I feel now compared to other TVs on the market it's been passed up.
Games still look good on it, but not as good as before. I'm sure the backlight deteriortes over time. I'm thinking of upgrading but it's not a necessity but more of a nice to do kind of thing.
How often do you all upgrade your Tv's for console gaming?
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Since Sony & Microsoft could be or possibly doing away physical copies,Dreamcast 2 would feature a Hybrid 4K Media: A system featuring physical media for collectors (e.g., 4K Blu-Ray or proprietary discs) alongside digital storefronts to attract users frustrated by all-digital ecosystems,4K Upscaling & Native Ports: Enhancing classic titles (like Shenmue or Sonic Adventure),Controller Evolution: Retaining the iconic Dreamcast controller shape with upgraded materials, modern rumble haptics, and a modernized built-in Visual Memory Unit (VMU),Integrated Store: Offering a low-cost, dedicated Sega game service with backwards compatibility for previous Sega consoles.When it does happen someday just make it happen.
I have both a PS5 Pro and a Series X. At first I was of course going to buy several games on Pro because of the upgrades. Notably, AC Black Flag, Beast Incarnation, and Halo. However, all 3 are coming to game pass. For just over $40 I could play all 3 on gamepass. As opposed to paying around $180 by buying them individually on Pro. Kind of seems crazy to pay so much. Which decision would you guys make?
Edit: I’m able to get a few months of game pass at about $15 a month. It sucks to lose out on the pro features but the amount of money I’ll save makes it worth it overall.
i’m planning to buy either a series s or a series x
the games i want to play are forza horizon6, gta6, assetto corsa and these kind of games.
i’m not sure which series to buy since x has the better performance but s is significant cheaper in my country.
if i buy the series s, will i regret not buying the x??
and is there like a big performance difference between these two??
Consoles listed: Steam machine’s red line of death, Xbox 360’s red ring of death, Nintendo switch’s orange screen of death, and PlayStation 3’s yellow light of death. This marks the Steam Machine as a real console.
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1: If this is the 1000th post about this you've seen on reddit, I'm sorry.
2: Yes I know a lot of people prefer digital. You don't have to tell me.
Sony cites "changing consumer preferences" for this choice. But let's look at that, shall we?
The fact of the matter is, Physical Games STILL SELL. Less than digital? Maybe, but there's clearly a market here.
My evidence? PHYSICAL GAMES. THEY STILL EXIST.
There's nothing stopping any given publisher from JUST releasing a game digital-only. And yet digital-only releases have been reserved mostly for smaller titles and stuff like FreeToPlay Online games.
Most major releases HAVE shipped on a disc. THey would NOT do that unless they saw value in it! Clearly, Physical Copies sell and make money! It's a buisiness model that works!
If this choice was really reflecting "consumers' habits" and Physical just wasn't good enough anymore, we would see Third Party Companies giving up first, and THEN sony would actually respond to that. NOT the other way around!!!
The fact is, the biggest most heavily-advertised games every month have CONSISTENTLY had a physical presence, unless they fit into one of the categories I mentioned earlier!
Companies don't do things that make them absolutely ZERO money. That's why we see a lot of game releases on the Switch, and not quite so many games releasing for the Atari Jaguar. The Companies still continually putting out Physical Releases are themselves proof that Physical Media ISN'T DEAD!
Now many would argue that Physical Sales aren't as high as they once were. True! And there's a solution to that: You can just print less copies! If you lose money printing more copies than are going to sell, then that's your own mistake, and that's been the case since before Digital Games were a thing.
Those Digital-Only releases I just mentioned? Most of the biggest ones GET physical releases, once they've proven themselves popular enough!
And if they're deemed popular enough to sell, but not popular enough to get a wide release, what happens?
They're usually picked up by a company like limited run games, and they produce a small enough amount that they can put out a physical without having to worry about it flopping!
This goes for both indie games and small games from AAA Companies. For example, both Rain World and Persona 4 Golden were released physically on PS4 by Limited Run Games.
You CAN just produce only as many copies as you expect to be able to actually sell!
Printing LESS copies because LESS consumers buy Physical over Digital makes sense. Printing NO copies, DOES NOT.
One thing I want to address is that Yes, physical IS more expensive for companies than Digital. But the way some people talk about it, you'd think that Physical copies are actively choking these companies to death. That's... they aren't.
Even on a system like the switch where Physical costs more to produce, the only way to lose money by selling physical games is to have a massive amount of unsold copies. And that's not that big of a deal when, with the cost of videogame development these days, a flop game will STILL represent a loss of possibly hundreds of millions of dollars, even if it only comes out digitally.
The costs of printing physical media are just production costs. They still make a profit, and historically, they have made ENOUGH profit.
The reason companies salivate over digital sales is because they can make far more money by eliminating those production costs. And I believe that the prevailance of Digital has made them feel entitled to the most profit-per-sale they could possibly have. But, they aren't entitled to that Profit.
This is my response to anyone citing something like Gamekeycards as evidence that 3rd parties really have given up on Physical. It's not done out of necessity, but entitlement. Speaking of which...
Now, some of you might be saying: "But Reddit User, 3rd parties already killed physical, all these Current-Gen games just require downloads!"
Listen to me.
THAT IS NOT TRUE. THAT IS MISINFORMATION.
I have USED an offline PS5 and MOST games can be played perfectly fine. I'm utterly convinced that the ONLY reason people believe that it's normal for PS4/5 games to require downloads is because people just DO NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE Between Downloading and INSTALLING.
INSTALLING is copying data from the disc. I've been told that the console can pull Data from the internet if that's faster than reading the disc, but all the data you need to play IS on the disc.
As for the PS4/5 games that really do require a download, they're basically always one of the following:
Games that are unplayable without a Patch. This is often just general incompetence. We all know about the practice of "finish the game with updates", it sucks but I dont think it's relevant to this discussion specifically.
This is done purely to devalue the physical version. People are meant to see it, go "oh, what's the point if I have to download anyway?" then buy it digitally and give the publisher more money.
Mostly "download-code-in-box" games, but also can take the form of a single disc requiring a download in cases where the full game on a disc would require a second disc in the box due to size.
This is done out of. Stinginess.
I think this practice reveals something though. Clearly, companies DO see value in physical releases, even when they aren't giving them to us.
They are still going through all of the effort, in these cases, to ALMOST make a physical copy. The box is all there, and some of the time they even still have A disc inside! If they really ONLY wanted to release these games digitally, nobody was forcing them to do this!
These releases are a CLEAR and direct acknowledgment that there is a market for physical, and that companies still see value in catering to it! They aren't true physical, but they are an ATTEMPT to sell to people who want to buy physical games.
They would NOT EVEN BOTHER if physical was REALLY "dying".
In the case of some of these games, they seem to be actively trying to dissuade people from buying physically by requiring a download.
That is not what a Change to Reflect Consumer Preferences looks like. That's an attempt to kill physical games. You don't need to go out of your way to kill something if it's really already dead.
I mean, even GTA 6 felt the need to manufacture a stupid box just to hold an empty code.
...Oh yeah, SPEAKING OF WHICH-
"Okay, but what about GTA 6? Doesn't that destroy your entire Argument?"
So I'm sure somebody will have said, "Okay you're saying that every major game comes out physically, but literally The Most Anticipated Game ever was revealed to be digital-only like five minutes before sony announced that they're stopping Disc Manufacturing"
ignoring the fact that even they still felt the need for a fake box with a code in it...
Man, I'm just sick of GTA 6 being seen as the End-All-Be-All of the gaming industry.
It's a huge game. I get it. But it's still just one game.
A single game, even one this important, should NOT have the ability to kill of Physical Media any more than Sony should.
Is it a blow to physical? Sure I guess, but it's Just One Game, and I absolutely DO NOT believe that sony made this choice BECAUSE of GTA 5.
The fact remains, there are COUNTLESS games that still warrant physical releases. Even the publishers I associate most with hating putting out Physical Games, like Square Enix or Activision, still constantly put out actual physical games without compromise.
And I think that's what gets me the most.
Why should Sony get to make this decision for everyone, when other companies are still willing to make Physical Games?
It's a little unclear whether or not sony's ultimatum of 2028 means that they just won't manufacture physical copies of their own games, or if they'll be preventing third parties from producing any physical Playstation Games after that date.
But either way, it seems entirely obvious that PS6 will NOT have a disc drive, and thus, physical copies of PS6 games won't be an option for any company.
And that just fucking sucks!
There ARE still plenty of companies and plenty of games that are just FINE getting released physically! Sony SHOULD NOT have the right to stop them from doing that!!!!
With movies or DVDs, even if Digital and specifically streaming has almost fully taken over, you can still get DVDs, because nobody can stop companies from just producing their own DVDs, and nobody can stop a company from just selling DVD players.
With Game Consoles, that isn't the case. There's no way a 3rd-party can just make their own version of the PS6 that has a disc drive, and they aren't going to just casually print PS6 game discs that can't be used on anything.
And that! Is bad!!
Physical Media Is Not Dead. But Sony wants it to be.
This was going to be my opening, but I'll move it to the end.
Last of all, I'm going to throw MATHS on the table. I've seen the statistic that "85% of sales are digital" thrown around a lot, but people are taking that to mean things that it doesn't mean.
First of all, it's a percentage of SALES, not of consumers. This doesn't mean that 15% of people buy ONLY physical, and 85% buy ONLY digital, and anyone saying "this affects only 15% of people" is reading the facts wrong.
This will affect anyone who's ever so much as thought of buying a disc.
If I buy 15 Physical Discs and 85 Digital Games, then I just AM that statistic. Does that mean I would be unaffected by this? OF COURSE NOT.
Also, let me say: even if the statistic is true, it does NOT justify killing Physical Games. 15% is a lot of people. We should not NEED other people to deliberately boycott digital games in order for digital games to not be a replacement for discs. Like I said earlier, if there's just a reduced demand for physical games, then print a reduced number of discs. Printing NONE isn't responding to consumer demands it's ignoring the (SLIGHTLY) less lucrative demands.
I also have no doubt that this data is also skewed by forces that they intentionally ignore. How many games in that 85% are digital-only titles? How many of them are games that get discounted to significantly below what a new physical copy can cost? And on the other side, I highly doubt that 15% physical accounts for used sales. It's not impossible for Sony to track physical games including used copies, but it's unlikely.
[I'll freely admit that I havent done as much research into that specific statistic as I could have done, and I might be proven wrong on that front, but I wanted to air the greviances I've had regarding it.]
All of this serves to imply that when a consumer is presented with a $60 Game which they can buy either physically or digitally, they will choose Digital 85% of the time. But I think it's pretty easy to understand that things are more complicated than that, and really that choice is more likely to have a much more even split...
Without even mentioning the fact that very often, it's a case of $60 Digital, and, like, $30 Physical.
Sony, despite everything I've laid out, and despite this being their own doing, wants to be seen as passive in this. They want the narrative to be that Physical is dying and now it's being laid to rest. But it isn't. They are killing it, Deliberately.
Why? For the sake of control. To have a single storefront that they rule, where the prices aren't affected by supply and demand, but simply are what they say they are. Where they dont have to share profits with distributors or pay to manufacture discs. Where games aren't owned, only rented, played only with the express permission of an outside force, like we're children.
That future disgusts me.
It's also done out of EGO. Confidence. Their idea is surely that the people buying physical will come around, they'll have no choice, and then they'll have a world where everyone just buys the games digital and gives them more money than ever before.
You've probably heard the argument of "what about people with no internet?" before. I wouldn't blame you for writing them off as a hypothetical strawman in these arguments. But up until about 7 months ago, I WAS that strawman.
I didn't have no internet, but I lived in rural england and the wifi was so slow (2MB/S download if you're lucky) that a 50GB download would take 12 hours and have to be left on overnight. Downloading big AAA games was so slow that I functionally couldn't do it. If I wanted games on my playstation, I'd be ordering physical copies online, or taking a bus to a city with a used game store. I never bought a single used game on my playstation 5. I didnt even keep it connected to the internet.
It doesn't feel good to know that if I hadn't coincidentially moved to another country, I would be the Acceptable Losses in a hobby I love.
I don't expect this post to change sony's mind, but I hope I can at least make people understand that this isn't something that naturally happened to Physical Games.
Thank you for listening to wahtever this was.
I am pc gamer, so I don't know much about modern consoles. The last ones I owned were ps2 and xbox 360. I know that each platform has its own pros and cons, but I would like to understand the differences in terms of both hardware and the overall experience. How do they compare when it comes to performance, features, controllers, user interface, and overall feel? I am considering buying a console primarily to play gta 6. Is ps really worth to buy it or should I go with xbox? I want to spend my money on console that is worth the cost. I would appreciate it if someone could help.
Guys... With an the shit going on i didn't think I'm ever buying a game or game console ever again paying the price you pay for virtually a rental is terrifying to me.. I'm sorry i didn't know where to post this, y'all can rip me off y'all want. I just as an avid game collector i feel like i just lost the passion.. thanks for hearing me