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Question about the upcoming LOTH release

I can't find any answers on Ascensions webpage, does anyone know if they will be publishing a guide for each year like Catholic Book Publishing does for their version? And will it come with quick access cards like the old one did, for the Gospel Canticles and feast/solemnity lauds?

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u/tech_pilgrim — 21 hours ago

LOTH vs. 1960 Roman Breviary

I’m facing somewhat of a dilemma. I pray the 1960 and the LOTH, both have been edifying to me, but consistency in prayer is important. With the second edition forthcoming I am contemplating doing the LOTH primarily. However I feel that I am “missing out” on some of the benefits of the 1960, for instance, the imprecatory psalms and verses, the removal of various beautiful and traditional collects and feast days, and the 4 week psalter being less conducive to memorization. On the flip side praying the 1960 carries with it a sense of isolation within the larger Church, sure there are traditional communities that pray it but less so. Additionally I don’t know latin so I pray a translation of the 1960, so it’s not liturgical per se. I also mainly attend a Novus Ordo with the TLM maybe 2-3 times a month.

Has anyone else experienced this and how do you guys navigate this?

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u/jackaugustinus — 1 day ago

Selling my monastic diurnal

Hey everybody. I’m selling my monastic diurnal. It’s in perfect condition. it has been opened about 5 times. I‘m selling it for $50 dollars, just need to get it off my hands. I’ll send photos to whoever is interested. PM if you are.

u/FirstMagician4568 — 2 days ago

The Great Horologion questions

Does anybody use The Great Horologion? I'm especially interested in volume II. I like the layout and the text size is perfect. There are over 500 accounts of saints in that book. I was wondering how many of those saints are pre schism and do eastern catholics ​venerate any of the post schism saints?

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u/Haunting_Run352 — 3 days ago

Missing an evening and morning prayer???

Hi, I’m very new to the liturgy of the hours and in my Christian prayer version of it, today I don’t have an evening prayer and tomorrow I don’t have a morning prayer. Can anyone explain this for me?

u/_XxFakexX_ — 4 days ago

Pre-1955 Breviary: how do you anticipate Matins?

When praying the Divino Afflatu Breviary, how does one anticipate Matins and Lauds? Is it simply by saying Compline, followed by the "Sacrossanctae et individuae", then the "Aperi Domine os meum", and then starting Matins?

Does it make more sense to say the "Aperi Domine" before the first hour said in the day (for instance, Prime) and the "Sacrossanctae" after the last hour said in the day (in this case, Lauds)? Or do those prayers are said always before/after Matins/Compline?

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u/rafaelpb — 4 days ago

Question about Prime in the Roman Breviary

Are the martyrology and the capitular Officr both optional? If so, are they tied together?

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u/RB_Blade — 4 days ago

Do the rubrics allow for the enlarged form of Morning Prayer on Universalis?

If you don’t know what I’m talking about, there is an option on Universalis to insert the OOR readings and mass gospel into Morning Prayer (after the short reading and responsory, I think) . Is this something provided for by the liturgical rubrics?

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u/Imperator-ad-plagam — 6 days ago

Traditionalist Benedictine monasteries which accept oblates from distance

Hello.Do you know any Benedictine monastery which celebrates TLM and accepts oblates from distance?

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u/PiusG2 — 6 days ago

Just bought Shorter Christian Prayer - does the 4-week psalter contained within it include all psalms, or just a selection of them?

I've been lurking on the LOTH sub for some time and have learned so much from you guys, and I finally took the plunge and bought SCP because it feels like the level of commitment and depth that I'm looking for right now. As someone who loves the psalms in general, though, I am wondering whether the Psalter in SCP would allow me to read through all 150 Psalms throughout the year at some point or another (not counting of course the 3 or so Psalms that LOTH excludes or abbreviates), since the Psalms, Canticles, and Hymns are the main reason why I'm drawn to the Divine Office as a layperson. (I love patristic readings but I prefer to read through entire texts and focus on one church father at a time to reading a sampling of patristic writings each day, so the exclusion of the Office of Readings from SCP isn't a huge deal for me.)

I'm assuming that the 4-week psalter which is the basis of the complete LOTH is somewhat different than that which is used for SCP (aside from the latter only consisting of Morning, Evening, and abridged Night prayer) - is there somewhere where I can figure out what the exact differences are out of curiosity? I know that, assuming a 4-week cycle in ordinary time (28 days X 2 prayers ignoring night prayer X roughly 2 psalms per prayer session ~= 108 psalms?), most of the Psalms would be used, which makes me think that including Night Prayer, Sundays, and feasts throughout the church year included in the book, I'd read through everything at least once, but is this definitely the case? I know this is a pretty rudimentary question but I'd love an answer from someone who's used both SCP and a more complete LOTH at different times in their prayer journey.

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u/sleepng_beaut — 6 days ago