r/firealarms

Pull Station Removal

Hey all,

Edit: S537 section 27 states that any modification or removal requires a new verification. Thanks u/tenebralupo for the info.

I am asked about removing pull stations inside a hotel. They are in a couple of the rooms and teenagers have set them off in the past.

The pull stations are in a hotel room that has no fire escape from the window etc. There are several pull stations in sight from the rooms in the hallway.

I know the Hotel would have to contact the city and the fire dept and whoever else is the AHJ.

My question is would the system need to be reverified as modifications have been made or can it simply just be removed as they are not monitoring devices?

I live in Canada so we use ULC standards and have searched S537, S536 and 524. It only states about install and the initial verification. Thanks.

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u/Better-Voice1638 — 1 day ago

Super frustrating Ground fault

Been having the intermittent ground for a couple of days now, Comes in every 30 mins and then disappears in like 10 secs. Super frustrating to troubleshoot.

The pic shows the info that comes up when I hit the info key (negative ground fault), does anyone know what this info could be?

Unable to even take wires and locate which area it's coming from because it disappears super fast. What would you do in situations like this, what would be your method of troubleshooting?

Appreciate all the help.

Simplex Flex50 AMP

Diagnosed a Bad Flex50 Amp, replaced it with a new one. I am getting “no output-power stage 1” and “no output power stage 2” faults on the main panel. Does this mean the new amp is bad out of the box? When I queue up the amp for the circuits the trouble clears but when I deactivate it the troubles come back. Seems weird to me.

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u/Green-Papaya-9418 — 1 day ago

Kidde Fire Alarms ruining my life

We moved into our rental house 3 years ago, with a separate basement apartment - from the day they installed our Kidde Audio/Visual smoke alarms I don’t think I’ve had a full good night sleep due to the crippling anxiety of being jolted awake all the time by “FIRE FIRE FIRE” and strobe lights.
We have mentioned to our landlords MULTIPLE times and he has replaced ones that were flashing red after they go off. I think 2-3 times now. Random times of the year always between 2-5am they start going off for no reason. One night they didn’t shut off for 20 minutes and I almost called the fire dept (landlord was woken up at 3am to a nice phone call) Summer or winter, heat or AC. The same one in the basement kept causing issues until they took that one out completely, but now it seems to be a different one causing the false alarms all the time. Then it’s every few days, or every few weeks there’s no telling when they go off again.
But it feels like the boy who cried wolf, jump out of bed, turn your nose on and start sniffing around the house to make sure all is well.
Any tips??? Might call fire department to see what they recommend because we have tried all we can do.

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u/Adorable-Fig-5981 — 1 day ago

Fire Alarm Systems Contractor License - Worth?

What is the average/going rate for letting a company use/rent your Fire Alarm Systems Contractors License to run a Fire Alarm Division? Specifically Massachusetts

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u/NotReallyAHuman_ — 2 days ago

Need some help troubleshooting

I have no idea what's going on here. Elevator shunt breaker didn't go off but this relay and module stay active. Any insight is greatly appreciated.

u/Select_Incident_5235 — 2 days ago

Is this worth saving in my house?

I live in a former student house, it had to have a proper fire alarm system to be up to regs (up to code). Now I live here there's no longer an obligation and I could remove it but it seems a waste. The internal sounder kept going off and the general fault light flashing.

I opened the panel and ran the diagnostic program according to a manual I found online and it's showing zone one open circuit error. No loose or corroded wires visible, so presumably one of the sensors in that loop has failed? I am not a fire alarm professional, so I am a bit reticent to mess with those, although if I could find the one that failed I assume they're not that hard to swap. (In fact seems they're hotswappable?)

Alternatively I could rip it all out and put in smoke alarms but seems crazy to make my house less safe if it's probably not a big repair.

Many thanks for any advice.

u/CA3080 — 3 days ago
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Simplex Connected Safety Gateway

I have installed New connected safety gateway card(4010-2504) in new 4010ES panel and the web and app is showing the panel. But when I connect the card in older panel(though the panel is upgraded to newer version 7.01.01) and compatible to CSG latest version 19.

However it is seen that API error is showing in web and app based version. The CSG is not fetching the panel at that time. I have checked with 10 numbers old panel(upgraded version) but failed every time. When I switched the CPU card, it is working then.

Can someone share any compatibility cpu card version list for new CSG card? It will be helpful.

OEM doesn't have any idea about it. I have not seen anything related to it in Simplex Knowledge base.

Note: I have checked with one 4100ES panel and found out same issue.

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u/Fisherman_Exact — 3 days ago
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Clean agent/inspector

I need someone who can do clean agent systems and test in Washington asap have a lot of work with opportunities on either side of the state or Portland as well! Reach out!

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u/PositiveAd9047 — 2 days ago

Yeah they are😁

AC/DC is pretty good 😝. Saw this panel today thought it was pretty funny how they labeled it.

u/GlowingSpy — 2 days ago

What is this ?

Never seen one of these, I’m guessing it’s an older water gong bell?

u/Broken0811 — 3 days ago

Content page

Getting my content page up and rolling give it a follow or just check it out. More to come! Only on instagram as of right now.

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u/dancurr — 3 days ago
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What fire alarm related stuff irks you in movies? 2

For me it's the lack of flashing lights including strobe lights! Especially when there are actual strobe horns showing onscreen! And even when the fire alarm is activated the lights don't flash!

The only movie I saw strobe lights active was in the movie Middle School: The Worst Years of My Life. https://www.amazon.com/Middle-School-Worst-Blu-ray-Digital/dp/B01LTHWXX4 While the fire alarms activated and the strobe lights did flash, this movie is no exception when it comes to the sprinklers going off! All the sprinklers are activated just like in every TV show and movie I've seen fire sprinklers activated. Another wrong thing, the sprinkler head in the principal's office is triggered by a lighter.

In Eraser (1996) The sprinklers are also activated and there is a visible flashing red light during the fire alarm.

No animated series or movies I've seen featured strobe lights but a few cartoons showed flashing fire alarms:

-Phoebe and Jay. Episode: Fire Drill/Fruit Juice Frenzy

-Clarence (by Skyler Page/Realistic looking fire alarm and best example!) Episodes:  1. Honk  2. Suspended   3. Officer Moody  Note: The fire alarm sound is different in the first listed episode but in the other two episodes the sound is the same and more realistic! Said to be a Horn in temporal Code 3. Looks like a Wheelock MT horn/strobe with vertical strobe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelock_(brand)#/media/File%3AWheelock_mt2.jpg For cartoon and gif (WARNING: Could affect photosensitive viewers!) https://clarence.fandom.com/wiki/File:FIRE!!!.gif 

-Blaze and the Monster Machines. Episode: Fired Up

-Transformers Rescue Bots. Episode: A Brush with Danger

-Win or Lose (Disney Pixar) Episode: Blue (Possibly. I say that because there's a visible fire alarm with a light near the door inside Frank's, or Mr. Brown's classroom. Later while Frank is looking at his phone and using a dating app, there's an alarm sound and a flashing red light, which seems to be coming from where the said alarm although the fire alarm might not actually be activated.) This is one of the few animated series that shows fire alarms with actual lights and they can be seen in Mr. Brown's classroom and throughout the school.

Note: All the fire alarm lights were red, not white! 

There was also a CGI animated movie that also had a fire alarm with flashing red lights and not just on the ceiling or wall but even the fire alarm pull stations had flashing lights on them, but unfortunately I can't remember the movie title. Other clues I can give you is some of it took place in a stairwell and at night.

I do understand that strobe lights could affect photosensitive viewers, still I wish there could be some flashing light while the fire alarms go off in more shows and movies be them live action or animated! If I could I'd redo the Arthur episodes "D.W. All Fired Up" and "April 9th" and add flashing lights to the fire alarms though maybe not strobe lights.

u/WilliamD3P — 3 days ago

Flame detector

A few questions has anyone tested one of these without the Honeywell flashlight

And can we just use a spotlight/flood light or do you need - Honeywell TL1055 IR Test Lamp

u/Fluid-Jacket-6801 — 3 days ago