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Supplement Labels Should Be a Test Result
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Supplement Labels Should Be a Test Result

I wrote this piece about supplement regulation.

The FDA estimated a $60 billion U.S. market of roughly 100,000 products in the dietary supplement market as of 2024, with most able to end up in storefronts like GNC without the agency having any knowledge of the product and no systemic way to know when new ones appear or what’s in them. The labels are allowed to worsen customer uncertainty through the use of “proprietary blends” with only the total weight of the blend required for reporting. Just over two decades ago, the FDA had considered requiring a more rigorous system, but in the end they backed off.

Since I first wrote about supplement regulation as a community college student, I’ve been of the opinion that every batch of every dietary supplement should be held from sale until a representative sample passes testing by an accredited, independent laboratory. The back panel should show verification of ingredients and amounts, as well as product-specific tests for contaminants or adulterants. The same rule should require the amounts of each ingredient to appear instead of letting the words “proprietary blend” tell you to go screw yourself for wanting more info. The laboratory should draw the sample under a documented chain of custody and report the results directly to the FDA instead of allowing repeated testing with only a favorable certificate being sent in. Each lot should also carry a code linking the buyer to a public result while coming with the same kind of insert one gets with a new pharmaceutical. Failed tests should remain part of the public record even if a batch is abandoned and destroyed.

The FDA already operates an accredited food-laboratory program, and NIST and NIH develop the reference materials and methods such testing requires. Extending that system to supplements would require more laboratories and better assays for difficult products. The industry makes $60 billion a year and can pay for them. Testing each batch will not establish that a supplement works or make its marketing honest. It will answer the more basic question the current system too often leaves open: does this bottle contain the ingredients and doses printed on its label? The answer should come from the batch in the buyer’s hands.

Do you think this would be too stringent of a regulation? Do you think it'd be beneficial regardless of your answer to the previous question?

Full piece: https://theedgeofepidemiology.substack.com/p/supplement-labels-should-be-a-test

u/Lonely_Lemur — 18 hours ago

does food science have scope?? (plz read post)

Hey guys, im preparing for jee mains and will attempt in jan 2027. i wanna pursue btech in food sciencr and technology, as i have a great interest in this field and wanna do a startup related to it in the future, after a few years of job.

but my main concern is that many people around me are aiming for "higher" branches like cse, aerospace and mechanical. i havent seen anyone wanting the branch i want. is choosing this engg branch a right choice??? im genuinely interested in food science, but i wanna know whether this branch has a good career??

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u/Fair-Tax-9240 — 22 hours ago

Vitamin / Mineral Interaction in Gummies Experiment. Magnesium Causing Dark Browning?

Is it the magnesium causing this, if so, how do I prevent it? Microencapsulation?

I am playing around with different vitamins and minerals in gummies and have noticed that the ones with Magnesium (Magnesium Bisglycinate Anhydrous Chelate Powder (~13% Mg)) are browning significantly and continue to do so as they are exposed to air for longer.

Could it be the interaction with open air that is causing this or the core ingredients inside of the gummy?

Vitamin/Mineral Names:

  • Magnesium Bisglycinate Anhydrous Chelate Powder (~13% Mg)
  • Vitamin C Ascorbic Acid Powder (Vitamin C (Ascorbate))
  • Ferrous (Iron II) Citrate (~20% Fe)

Core Gummy Ingredients:

  • Water
  • Glucose Syrup
  • Gelatin (Pork) 250 Bloom
  • Pectin (Will be removing this)
  • Granulated Sugar
  • Citric Acid
  • Fiber Syrup (tapioca)
u/Traditional_Lies323 — 24 hours ago

BS Nutrition Applying in Nestle R&D

Hi everyone! I’m a recent BS Nutrition graduate from one of the Big 4 universities in the Philippines, and I’m currently figuring out what career path I want to take post-grad.

I initially thought I’d pursue a hospital-based career, but after some research, I came across Research & Development (R&D) roles and became really interested in the field. I feel like it could be a great way to apply my Nutrition background in areas like food product development and research.

I’m particularly interested in applying for an R&D position at Nestlé Philippines, but I’m not sure if my undergraduate degree would qualify me for these roles.

For those with experience in food/FMCG R&D, I’d really appreciate any insights on whether a BS Nutrition degree is considered relevant, as well as any advice for a fresh grad applying to Nestlé PH.

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u/whippedhoneymatcha — 1 day ago

What the hell happens to msg in an air fryer 😭

i know this is way too much msg, its just what pooled underneath the tray, but what is the science that turns it onto this drywall ahh shit. sidenote air frying msg also has proven to make foods like chicken stickier and sweeter somehow, unless im mistaken, which im also curious to understand the science behind as msg isnt intended for sweet flavour profiles. also idk what flair to use i hope this is the right one

u/Agile_Breadfruit7932 — 2 days ago

What do you use to track trials in food R&D?

Hey all!

Wondering what people actually use to manage product R&D work day-to-day.

Do you track trials, batches, results, and new versions somewhere proper, or is it Excel plus a few docs? Curious to see if anyone has a particular set of tools they recommend using? I have been thinking of using something like Jira but thought there might be a few different options out there.

Mostly trying to work out what setups stay clean after a few projects. The thing I want to avoid is reformulating six months later and then spending a lot of time remembering where I left everything off.

Thanks!

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u/FunctionPast742 — 1 day ago

What’s a good price to pay for a beverage recipe from flavor house?

Hey y’all, I’m looking to launch a new beverage and just had my first call with a flavor house. They charge $5000 for the development of a recipe, though it includes everything from 10 hours of lab time (about 3-4 SKU’s), unlimited reformulations, no shipping or material charges for samples, and you own the recipe as well.

Is this a good price for a company with a relatively low MOQ?

I’m gonna be getting some more quotes but I definitely wanna know what range I should be looking for. Thanks!

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u/nonflexual — 1 day ago

Is this career field disability friendly?

I have been disabled for the last three years due to my chronic illnesses and had to drop out of college, but as soon as I can get my current illness under control I want to go straight back to school. However my main two illnesses are something I always have to worry about in the future, like flair ups or needing brain surgery that’ll keep me out of work for a week or so. I shouldn’t be ever disabled this long again though once I find a good doctor. The only things I’d need consistently even when I am 100% feeling good is consistent air conditioning (heat intolerance), a place to sit, and somewhere to store aids.

I plan on majoring in biochemistry and am dead set on going into food science. Is this doable? And are remote jobs still around/a possibility in the future?

I just don’t want to dream about going back to school/work when I can’t. Then I could put my focus into something else.

Edit: I’m in the US and in a state with plenty of food science opportunity.

Edit: Thank you for everyone who responded, it seems pretty 50/50 so maybe I’ll consider broadening what I want to do with a biochem degree. I really love school and loved the food science related courses I took when I was at school but there’s so many other options I can hopefully consider

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u/Unlucky_Equal_7143 — 2 days ago

Cookie dough mix product looking for co-packer or manufacturer

Hi! I have a product for cookie dough mix like you would buy off the shelf for Betty Crocker etc. looking for a co packer or manufacturer to scale. Thank you!

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u/dalvabar — 1 day ago

Howard Moskowitz spent years finding the exact formulation where your brain stops resisting food. He called it the bliss point. Cheetos were engineered to dissolve before your stomach signals fullness — they called it 'the right melt' in internal documents.

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u/Qrioos — 3 days ago

UK Nutritionists please read

Hi, I am interested in studying Nutrition in uni because I love it, and I believe it’s very important in human health holistically. However the problem is I don’t want to become a dietitian/nutritionist. What other options are there for me if i do graduate with this degree? Thank you!

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u/Primary-Pen6782 — 3 days ago

Food Scientists, where are you at your career.

I am curious to hear about everyone journey in food science. What field are you currently working in, how did you get started, how many years of experience to you have and where are you in life and your career right now. If you are comfortable sharing it will be great. Thank you.

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u/Both-Wolverine840 — 4 days ago

Is food sciences really a bad degree ?

I am from india and i have a biology background so we don't have option its either medical science or go to change your career . I wasn't allowed to change my degrees to social sciences or finance cause my parents think that only thing these degrees will only lead to unemployment. So, through counselling, i got really good college for food technology and management, i was really happy with it , But now my indian father is telling me that he is so ashamed to even tell people around me which degree his daughter is doing. These things are making me feel bad about myself

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u/Competitive_Arm9397 — 4 days ago
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I am vicoding a monster system that dont know how to use anymore

Well, i just wanted to make a simple cooking game, with rules and so on, for my tortilla de patatas project.
let the ai loose in the loop and "we" are building this: https://github.com/felixinberlin/openCulinaryRuntime

Its like a set of cooking rules.
Very complicated and scientific.
if someone is interested in the idea just pm me.

u/HeraclitoF — 3 days ago

Frozen durian has California cancer and birth defect warning??

I know some people are saying the California prop 65 warnings are overkill. I am wondering why this frozen durian has this label? Normally I would just ignore. I am pregnant though and more on the cautious side now. Can I eat this or no?! I am scared of the birth defect warning.

u/plantthrowawayy1 — 3 days ago

Does U.S. food and beverage compliance really cost 12% of revenue, or is that a misread cost-of-quality number?

I'm trying to sanity-check a number I heard: U.S. food and beverage companies spend around 12% of revenue, or maybe total cost, on regulatory compliance across transportation and the supply chain.

I can't find evidence for that exact claim. The closest source I found is a 2015 Aberdeen survey of 174 food and beverage manufacturers. It says the top 30% performer group had a total cost of quality equal to 12% of annual revenue. That includes prevention, assurance, internal failure and external failure. Only 63% of the survey sample was in North America, so it is not a U.S.-only or transportation-compliance number.

For transport, I found the FDA's Sanitary Transportation rule. It covers things like sanitary vehicles and equipment, temperature controls when needed for food safety, contamination prevention, training and records. FDA's economic analysis estimated the incremental industry cost of that rule at roughly $113M-$117M per year. The traceability rule is another cost layer, but FDA also reports that as an industry-wide annualized cost, not a standard percentage of company revenue.

For people working in food manufacturing, QA/food safety, distribution or refrigerated transport:

  1. What do you include under "regulatory compliance cost" versus normal quality/cold-chain operations or customer requirements?

  2. What denominator do you use: revenue, COGS, logistics spend or total supply-chain cost?

  3. Are labor and documentation, audits, testing, sanitation, training, temperature monitoring, traceability systems, rejected loads and recalls tracked separately?

  4. Does 12% sound plausible for a particular company size or product category, or is it probably a misreading of total cost of quality?

  5. When a temperature or documentation failure happens, what is the usual operational consequence: load hold/rejection, corrective action, recall, enforcement or something else?

If you can share a rough range or anonymized example, that would help. I'm trying to understand how practitioners measure this, not promote a product.

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u/der_Haken — 3 days ago

online Master's in Food Science and Technology Wageningen University

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Good morning,

I wanted to know if anyone has had experience with the online Master's in Food Science and Technology in wageningen university. Is it evaluated differently by companies than the in-person Master's program?

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u/Jvsisb — 4 days ago

Issue with clumping/clumping of salt, sugar, and vinegar powder in oil based chili crisp – how to achieve uniform flavor distribution?

I’m currently developing an Asian-style chili crisp and ran into an issue with texture and flavor distribution.

My Goal & Constraints

  • Low Water Activity (aw): Using 100% dried ingredients to keep aw low, prevent microbial growth, and achieve a minimum 1-year shelf life.
  • Flavor Profile: Balanced savory, sweet, and tangy profile using salt, sugar, and apple cider vinegar powder.

Current Formulation & Process

  1. Base dry blend: All solid ingredients (chili flakes, aromatics, spices, salt, sugar, apple cider vinegar powder).
  2. Oil infusion/fry: Pour 80–90°C oil over the dry blend, then raise the temperature to 110–120°C and hold for 3–5 minutes until the solids absorb oil and the mix thickens.
  3. Hot fill: Fill glass jars while hot, cap immediately, and allow to rest for 24 hours before opening.

The Problem

Because salt, sugar, and organic acid salts/powders are insoluble in oil, they clump together during the heating phase rather than distributing evenly. Whether I use standard granular sizes or grind them into a fine powder beforehand, I end up with gritty, concentrated "pockets" or hard clumps in the final product.

Questions for the Community

Has anyone successfully dispersed crystalline/dry water-soluble solids in oil without clumping? Does ultra-fine micronizing (e.g., using a colloid mill or high-shear blender after oil addition) help, or does fine powder make agglomeration worse due to surface tension?

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u/Cold-Pomegranate-540 — 3 days ago

Outgrowing spreadsheets for food manufacturing processes

Hi everyone, when did your food manufacturing business (or the one you work for) get too big to rely solely on spreadsheets to keep track of everything? We currently use separate files for purchasing, production, raw materials and finished goods and it's becoming too much to manage without someone breaking the formatting once a week. If you went through this, what tools or software centralised everything for you?

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u/ColdCoffeePiladoo — 4 days ago